As an LA Kings fan, this makes me sad. Was there for Game 1 Kings vs Yotes in Conference Finals in 2012. It was a great atmosphere. Hopefully, the Yotes name and colors stay in AZ for the future. As much as I dislike conference and division rivals such as the Ducks, Sharks, Yotes etc, I want them to stay put.
As an Atlanta Thrashers fan from Atlanta I feel terrible for you guys. But keep your head up. A team back in 5 to 7 years is much better than us praying for our Thrashers back year after year after year. I wish you guys the best of luck
1:12:00 I just want to say well put by both Craig and Petey. Its going to be okay. Everybody around us is going to work too hard for it not to be okay. Much love!
If Alex Meruelo sells the team, as a long time fan of the Coyotes fan, I will not invest a dollar that would go into Meruelo' pockets! This is quite possibly THE WORST OWNER IN THE LEAGUE, Coyotes or otherwise. I WANT HOCKEY IN THE DESERT; IT CAN WORK. What really pisses me off about this ownership is they Traded off players that wanted to play for a future that was being built here. All. The fans appreciate the effort of the players and coaches were building something significant here. If the Coyotes leave Arizona, I'm done! My best option would be for the Coyotes or another franchise to stay here w/o Meruelo. We'll see what happens in the next few weeks. Why would ANYONE say they're committed to staying in Arizona and go to the effort of trying to purchase a suitable land via state auction THEN wanting to sell the team? The fact that the fans HAVEN'T HEARD WORD ONE From Meruelo. This B.S. NEEDS TO STOP! If there is hockey in Arizona in the future, Alex Meruelo NEEDS NOT BE A PART OF IT'S EXISTANCE.😢
@@jerhaden After a pathetic run as owner, there's no doubt that The man calling the shots really hasn't lived up to his words. The league, owners around the league and the players association is fed up with Meruelo. What bothers me most is the total lack of commitment to the fans. What's next? I think the team or league announces in the near future that the Coyotes will depart for Salt Lake City for next season. I would hate to think that OUR PROBLEM ALEX MERUELO will come back to own the next franchise. I'm out if that's the case.
I am a Coyotes fan. I say let them move. This experiment failed right from the start when they moved from Winnipeg. Nobody gave this team a chance from the beginning, anyway. Bettman wants a team in the Phoenix area, he knows it's a viable market. Let them move, and let someone, perhaps NOT Meruelo, start from scratch and build an arena, build a contender, and end this charade. There will be hockey in the valley. Bettman will ensure that.
I live in Sidney BC and wintered near Glendale for many years. We were season ticket holders for over 10 years, even wore our jerseys and went to a Glendale council meeting in support of the coyotes. I’m heatbroken for everyone involved. I listen all all your podcasts, thanks for everything you do.
You sir are a prime example of what I've been saying. There are more Canadian snowbirds going to Coyotes games than actual locals in the area lol. How can they sustain a team that always underperformed AND has a weak fanbase
If you are looking to the NHL to care about the development of the game in Arizona for young players, you are looking at the wrong folks. They should, but they don't.
It’s not the NHL’s job to finance the development of kids in AZ once they leave it. Hopefully they can at least get an AHL team there in the meantime to keep interest in hockey for people
It is multiple reasons why they're leaving, the lack of an NHL sized arena that couldn't get built, the Meruelo ownership fumbling its way out of Glendale, Tempe saying we don't want you, Scottsdale saying don't build near us, playing in Mullet with empty seats for another 3yrs. Not enough fan support even in an under 5K seat arena. I doubt the NHL ever goes back unless another ownership group with deep pockets builds an arena in Phoenix/Scottsdale. Reality is this should have happened 20yrs ago..now you know how Winnipeg felt!
If this goes through, what does it mean for youth hockey in the valley? My son has wanted to be a Phoenix/ Arizona Coyote when he grows up since he could speak!
I live in Saskatchewan, and we don’t have a nhl team and the kids teams here almost have to turn kids down. Keep pushing hockey there ! It’s a great team sport !
What Alex Meruelo do is to get his fanbase back! We've been SCREWED by this man for too long. NO MORE MERUELO!!!! Could Dan Ishiba become a player in this. At this point Alex Meruelo will NEVER get another dollar from me. I don't see too many fans following Meruelo down another dry hole!😢 I feel so bad for all the Coyotes fans, we deserve so much better than what we've got from Alex Meruelo. I would hope Gary Bettman has seen the damage Meruelo has to this market. I think the damage has been done and most likely hockey will never return to Phoenix.
I was never a coyotes fan but I moved to the valley 7 years ago and fell in love with the team. They’re the ultimate underdog team that’s had all odds stacked against it. Had to leave the valley after COVID but still love the Yotes.
This is heartbreaking. From an Avalanche fan, here’s hoping a miracle happens. You are an incredible fan base and I have always experienced tremendous hospitality at Yotes’ games. Shoutout to the Arizona hockey community. Also, shoutout to the folks on the PHNX Coyotes’ beat. You are great hockey writers and even if the team leaves, there are lots of hockey fans who will continue to want to read your work and listen to your thoughts.
Hearing you 3 pouting and crying how horrible it is if y'all lose the coyotes.... i bet none of you cared about ripping this team away from the Winnipeg fans who had their hearts torn out when Jets moved to Phoenix. This is how the Winnipeg fans, players, and employees felt in 1996, so quit acting like this is so much worse. Enjoy the karma and be thankful your team lasted as long as it did in a very unsuccessful and failed market that should have moved away decades ago. I live in Houston and wished the team moved here instead of SLC.
I feel bad for hockey fans in Arizona. Even when/if they get an expansion team to replace the Coyotes, they'll be starting from scratch. It's an insult for fans who watched the carpet bagging team slowly build through the draft the last few years, only to see them leave with all those young prospects. Utah fans, like those in Denver, will get a good, young team from the start.
Being a fan since the 1996-97 season if the team leaves and we get an expansion team... I will not be a fan of that team.. i will still love my hockey and follow others BUT NOT AN EXPANSION TEAM
@@jtom68 David Stern made no effort to save the Grizzlies in Vancouver unlike Bettman who's been giving endless chances to the Coyotes for the past 25 years.
I feel so bad for everyone affected by this!! It's such a tough time with how the world is right now and to put this on all the employees of uncertainty is truly terrible! Just keep pushing forward it will all work out in the end!
I live in the Midwest, but 3 of my teams are in Arizona. Suns fan since 1993 (Johnson/Marjerle/Barkley, though they always been #2 behind Orlando, as I became a lifelong fanatical Magic fan as well in 1993), Cardinals fan since 1998 (The playoff run, Plummer, and by extension of the Suns), Snakes since 1998 (Always been fascinated by Expansion Teams, and also by extension), and the Mutts since 2013 (Didn't start watching hockey until then, but again went with them as with the exception of the Suns, my #1 Pro teams are all in AZ. My fanatical hockey friend and I refer to them as the "Desert Mutts"). I'm trying to be optimistic about everything. But at the same time, I am very suspicious. Why would they announce this after the new arena render? Bah.... I almost feel like this has been a done deal for awhile, and the new arena renderings were actually a promo for the "New" Coyotes "Expansion Team" that will be arriving in 2027 after the "Old" Coyotes team moves to SLC. Whatever. A small part of me just doesn't care at this point. Regardless.... GO MUTTS!!!!!
That’s it. I’m blaming the Eclipse. Somebody looked at the eclipse without glasses and it scrambled their minds. I guess we will have to do what Coyotes fans always do, sit around and wait for the bomb to actually drop.
No team in pro sports has been given BIGGER Breaks, than the Pheonix/Arizona Coyotes! IT'S BEEN EXHAUSTING! I do feel sorry for fans being dragged through this but hey, your ownership group sucks time in, time out!
I am sorry this won't work. If I could amend the Constitution of Canada though, I would change it so that no level of government can give money to a for-profit company without a public referendum by the affected voters. I bet there are a lot of people in Alberta who are aghast at the 700 million dollars being given to the Calgary Flames, but there was no referendum. Arizona has way stronger protection for taxpayers, and there is no chance Phoenix voters vote for ANY public funds being used to help this arena along. It is not just Gary Bettman, if enough owners said enough, he has to do it, he works for the 32 owners, not the players, not the fans, just those guys.
Good intro all around. Frank was ahead on this, it makes sense why the hometown guys were slow to believe him and fought for the hometown story. Though it's important to note: Craig Morgan's Coyotes-centric reporting inherently limits the bubble, both from his sources and by the audience he's pandering to. Dude has always done good work in that context, but he looks like a guy whose dog just got run over by Merulo here. Gotta feel for him as a person too, if the team moves on the 18th then what is his job in a week? Deserves better, though the fact that he suddenly looks resigned to this means that what he's hearing privately has seen a cataclysmic shift.
While I appreciated the local context as someone who isn’t in Arizona, as a Winnipegger of many decades, I recall the online trolling and mocking by Arizonans when you all got the team, and people out there very much were taking joy in our team leaving. I hate for you all that you now may learn our pain, but with a very obvious difference of being assured of a strong chance of returning, which we never had. I hope things work out in the end for Arizona hockey fans.
Hearing those 3 pouting and crying how horrible it is if they lose the coyotes.... i bet none of them cared about ripping this team away from the Winnipeg fans who had their hearts torn out when Jets moved to Phoenix. This is how the Winnipeg fans, players, and employees felt in 1996, so they can quit acting like this is so much worse. Enjoy the karma and be thankful the team lasted as long as it did in a very unsuccessful and failed market that should have moved away decades ago. I live in Houston and wished the team moved here instead of SLC.
@ThomasAZPerhaps you weren't, but I can assure you there was plenty of mocking by Arizona hockey fans for a Canadian team moving to the desert. I am glad, though, to be able to safely make the assumption that you would, at least now, agree that such expressions back then were tasteless, just as those mocking Arizona now are being rude, tasteless, and not good representatives of the sport.
It annoys me how people who have no idea about Utah (Petey) look up the SLC metropolitan population as if that’s all the people that would go to the games. The entire Wasatch front goes to Jazz games which includes the Provo and Davis/Weber metropolitan areas exceeding well over 2M.
Yeah, I can understand their pain but they are truly clueless about the SLC market. Furthermore, they claimed they didn't want to talk negatively about SLC and then of course made negative references towards it. The unfortunate fact is that the Coyotes don't have a real arena plan in place. They are hoping to win a land auction. Then they're hoping they can build onto said land with politicians in the surrounding area saying they pretty much don't want a land development project there. The Utah State Legislature has already approved 900 million in public funding for a dual arena for the Utah Jazz and an NHL team to not only get an NHL team but to help in their 2034 Winter Olympic bid. So while these two guys trash the Delta Center and it's 11,000 fan venue for a hockey game they continue to ignore the elephant in the room. There will be a new arena in SLC for an NHL team. There's no guarantee there will ever be an NHL worthy arena built in a preferable area of Arizona in a timely manner. Those are the facts.
Why does AZ always have the cheap owners. Yotes had 2 arenas and they were such bad tenets that neither wanted to renew their lease in the 5th largest city in the US.
Isles fan watching from afar. This sucks for the fans! I have to believe that the owners in the nhl wanted Arizona out of mullet. Hockey related revenue
Lol I was sticking up for this podcast show but the bashing of Salt Lake is pathetic. I bet not a single one of you or player has ever spent significant time in Salt Lake. The Jazz are fielding THT, Jason Preston, Keyonte George, Taylor Hendricks and Brice Sensabaugh and selling out their games at a team that might not win 30 games. And quit looking at Google. The true population of the area is 2.6 Million. Salt Lake is spread out because we want to be. Provo is 40 minutes to the south and Ogden is 40 minutes to the north.
These 3 people acted so sarcastic and childish during this entire saga. I feel reaaly bad for them they put alot of time and energy into this shit show of an organization
Hearing those 3 pouting and crying how horrible it is if they lose the coyotes.... i bet none of them cared about ripping this team away from the Winnipeg fans who had their hearts torn out when Jets moved to Phoenix. This is how the Winnipeg fans, players, and employees felt in 1996, so they can quit acting like this is so much worse. Enjoy the karma and be thankful the team lasted as long as it did in a very unsuccessful and failed market that should have moved away decades ago. I live in Houston and wished the team moved here instead of SLC.
Delta Center was remodeled 6 years ago, it's seats 14500 for hockey. Lol this is getting sad to watch...... this is your argument? bashing a venue that holds 3x the amount that a college arena holds? The size of the market? It's funny that Surprise can be considered as Phoenix Metro but Ogden isn't part of Salt Lakeand it's a closer travel to Salt Lake than Surprise is to Phoenix...... I get you guys are in panic but do some actual research on Salt Lake.
Yeah, their takes on SLC are pretty embarrassing. They say they don't want to talk down about SLC yet do exactly that. I would ask them one huge question. With all that population in the Phoenix area, why is there not a huge push for an actual tangible arena?Instead, they've resorted to talking about a land auction and the potential for a new arena. A new arena that the mayor of Scottsdale pretty much said we don't want. Then the Delta Center smack talk... Guess what? They aren't going to be stuck in the Delta Center forever. I think they tried to gloss over this as fast as possible. Smith has 900 million in public funding(I hate public funding for billionaires stadiums/arenas fwiw) for a downtown dual purpose arena for the Jazz and an NHL team. There is no will they or won't they have a long term home and they won't be playing in an NCAA venue. I get it, it sucks losing your team but we have to face the fact that you can't just keep wishing and hoping that the new arena would actually even happen. There has to be actual momentum towards it rather than saying, well, we need to win a land auction and then go from there.
I have a hard time believing this because 1. They are on the same timeline had TED passed. 2. why would Meruelo and the coyotes commit to a land auction if they were to sell the team? If they were to lose the auction or had no arena plan in place then I can understand this.
As local in SLC, your silly comments on population is sour grapes. We all know the size of PHX metro is greater than SLC. BUT your numbers are county of SLCo of 1.2 million while a larger population (the wasatch front) is much greater and not a long commute for most areas. Stop making what's happening look like a story of city vs. city numbers rather than what is actually is. Not a good look on your part.
Sorry that all you Arizonans are sad. We Utahns are always very hungry for new opportunities to receive more sports. Just look at how we treat our Jazz in the NBA. Everyone here lives and breathes Utah Jazz basketball. If the Coyotes come here to Utah, they will be in good hands
I get they're emotional, but their remarks about SLC as a market based on a wiki search are pure unadulterated cope. They get told REPEATEDLY by insiders that the people with actual financial skin in the game see no problem whatsoever with SLC as a market and it goes straight over their heads every time. The weepy pearl-clutching about staff losing their jobs is disingenuous too. How many tears were you guys shedding over Jets staff losing their jobs?
Yeah, they don't know much about SLC at all except to trash the Delta Center(which is not the team's permanent home). Nobody is celebrating the loss of jobs at all. I feel bad for those people. But again, this also happens in many different industries and is sad then too. This is unfortunately how life unfolds. I wish them the best.
This is not the end. Time is currently still on Arizona’s side. This media buzz is ridiculous. Before the rumors even started, the coyotes have a plan to be at mullet the next couple years. The more this purchase drags on and the closer it gets to next season without a purchase of the coyotes by the smith group, the better chance the coyotes get to stay. Bettman is definitely in your corner.
Love the passion guys but it's also obvious you guys are a bit too close to the situation to be objective lol To everyone else in the NHL, Gary Bettman is Taylor Swift and the Coyotes are Bon Iver in their duet "exile" lol
Sorry for the true Coyotes fans but this was inevitable it appears Betteman finally had enough and forced his hand on the team. I don’t see hockey coming back to Arizona it’s done. This is not a Cleveland Browns situation where the city keep the logo and history, there is no real history here. Sorry fans it’s over.
@@huntercopeland9371I don't know, aside from your correct point about the market value, why they would. It's been a money-losing disaster since day one.
SLC can have Team USA ,leave the Coyotes in AZ. A metroplex of 4.65 million vs a state of 3.1 million people. Phoenix Population 1.644 million people. SLC Population 205,000. How will they do better? Maybe if a man can get half price tickets for all 8 of his wives. I hope your Olympics are a no fans permitted just like Tokyo to bankrupt your state.
Will a change the name from coyotes to something else that is better suited for Salt Lake?? Uniforms and color steam changes ? Didn’t I just read like a day or two ago that they were going to build a new stadium and they got the OK and now this 🤔
Coyotes should’ve relocated to SLC years ago when we wanted them in 2009 but it’s finally happening and hockey fans that live in Utah are more than ecstatic. Can’t wait to drop the puck 2024-2025 in the Delta Center. Let’s gooooo!!!!! 🎉🎉
coyotes fans have been in denial for a long time about this franchise. the coyotes have been a poorly run for decades. I have seen this pod try to damage control instead of analyzing just how many problems this team continues to have all the time. bettman convinced the owners to allow this mess to go on and the breaking point is finally reached.
Hearing those 3 pouting and crying how horrible it is if they lose the coyotes.... i bet none of them cared about ripping this team away from the Winnipeg fans who had their hearts torn out when Jets moved to Phoenix. This is how the Winnipeg fans, players, and employees felt in 1996, so they can quit acting like this is so much worse. Enjoy the karma and be thankful the team lasted as long as it did in a very unsuccessful and failed market that should have moved away decades ago. I live in Houston and wished the team moved here instead of SLC.
I promise that Ryan Smith will do 3 things.... he doesn't want to see a city lose their team, that's not his goal. He will not keep the Coyotes name or history.... he never wanted a relo, he wanted an expansion team. He will make sure that Arizona will have the first opportunity to get them back
That's not his call though. I think Arizona needs to prove they can build an arena in a geographically appealing location in Arizona to have the opportunity to get an expansion franchise.
@@73Ambassador Half as hard? Maybe 1/15! The NHL didn't want Jim Balsillie in the club. Okay, fair enough. Winnipeg was ready to buy back the Coyotes in 2010, but Glendale City Council was fool enough to flush more tax dollars down the drain to prolong the circus!
As an LA Kings fan, this makes me sad. Was there for Game 1 Kings vs Yotes in Conference Finals in 2012. It was a great atmosphere. Hopefully, the Yotes name and colors stay in AZ for the future. As much as I dislike conference and division rivals such as the Ducks, Sharks, Yotes etc, I want them to stay put.
As an Atlanta Thrashers fan from Atlanta I feel terrible for you guys. But keep your head up. A team back in 5 to 7 years is much better than us praying for our Thrashers back year after year after year. I wish you guys the best of luck
Being a die hard Coyotes fan since the beginning….who lives in Salt Lake…it’s still very, very, painful
They should have built a better team for you to cheer for and a better arena. They had almost 30 years.
You were a Winnipeg Jets fan in 1972?
1:12:00 I just want to say well put by both Craig and Petey. Its going to be okay. Everybody around us is going to work too hard for it not to be okay. Much love!
Alex Meruelo sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbook, and by gum it put them on the map!
If Alex Meruelo sells the team, as a long time fan of the Coyotes fan, I will not invest a dollar that would go into Meruelo' pockets! This is quite possibly THE WORST OWNER IN THE LEAGUE, Coyotes or otherwise. I WANT HOCKEY IN THE DESERT; IT CAN WORK. What really pisses me off about this ownership is they Traded off players that wanted to play for a future that was being built here. All. The fans appreciate the effort of the players and coaches were building something significant here. If the Coyotes leave Arizona, I'm done! My best option would be for the Coyotes or another franchise to stay here w/o Meruelo. We'll see what happens in the next few weeks.
Why would ANYONE say they're committed to staying in Arizona and go to the effort of trying to purchase a suitable land via state auction THEN wanting to sell the team? The fact that the fans HAVEN'T HEARD WORD ONE From Meruelo. This B.S. NEEDS TO STOP! If there is hockey in Arizona in the future, Alex Meruelo NEEDS NOT BE A PART OF IT'S EXISTANCE.😢
Fair point, however my takeaway from this is that it doesn't sound like Muerello wants to sell as much as the other owners want to force him to sell.
@@jerhaden After a pathetic run as owner, there's no doubt that The man calling the shots really hasn't lived up to his words. The league, owners around the league and the players association is fed up with Meruelo. What bothers me most is the total lack of commitment to the fans. What's next? I think the team or league announces in the near future that the Coyotes will depart for Salt Lake City for next season. I would hate to think that OUR PROBLEM ALEX MERUELO will come back to own the next franchise. I'm out if that's the case.
Props to you guys for having frank on. Sad day for the fans that have been through it all. Terrible ownership, terrible local politics. Great fans.
You have that backwards. Props to Frank for agreeing to come on even after getting slagged
I am a Coyotes fan. I say let them move. This experiment failed right from the start when they moved from Winnipeg. Nobody gave this team a chance from the beginning, anyway. Bettman wants a team in the Phoenix area, he knows it's a viable market. Let them move, and let someone, perhaps NOT Meruelo, start from scratch and build an arena, build a contender, and end this charade. There will be hockey in the valley. Bettman will ensure that.
were you guys sad for St Louis (football) Cardinals employees or Winnipeg Jets I employees when those two teams came to Phoenix?
I live in Sidney BC and wintered near Glendale for many years. We were season ticket holders for over 10 years, even wore our jerseys and went to a Glendale council meeting in support of the coyotes. I’m heatbroken for everyone involved. I listen all all your podcasts, thanks for everything you do.
You sir are a prime example of what I've been saying. There are more Canadian snowbirds going to Coyotes games than actual locals in the area lol. How can they sustain a team that always underperformed AND has a weak fanbase
Had anyone talked about how this will drastically impact youth hockey in the state?
If you are looking to the NHL to care about the development of the game in Arizona for young players, you are looking at the wrong folks. They should, but they don't.
It’s not the NHL’s job to finance the development of kids in AZ once they leave it. Hopefully they can at least get an AHL team there in the meantime to keep interest in hockey for people
@@windycityblackhawks Hi WCH! There is the team in Tucson, for the Coyotes.
It is multiple reasons why they're leaving, the lack of an NHL sized arena that couldn't get built, the Meruelo ownership fumbling its way out of Glendale, Tempe saying we don't want you, Scottsdale saying don't build near us, playing in Mullet with empty seats for another 3yrs. Not enough fan support even in an under 5K seat arena. I doubt the NHL ever goes back unless another ownership group with deep pockets builds an arena in Phoenix/Scottsdale. Reality is this should have happened 20yrs ago..now you know how Winnipeg felt!
Better be careful. Winnipeg doesn’t exactly have stellar attendance numbers right now. Karma might come calling.
If this goes through, what does it mean for youth hockey in the valley? My son has wanted to be a Phoenix/ Arizona Coyote when he grows up since he could speak!
I live in Saskatchewan, and we don’t have a nhl team and the kids teams here almost have to turn kids down. Keep pushing hockey there ! It’s a great team sport !
Youth hockey I think will be fine, there’s a lot of former NHLers here who support the youth programs already.
Pay Glendale the rent for the arena up front and let them play there until the new arena is built in Phoenix. Money talks!
My coyote season ticket agent was replaced today and the new one called to introduce themselves to me. Interesting.
What Alex Meruelo do is to get his fanbase back! We've been SCREWED by this man for too long. NO MORE MERUELO!!!!
Could Dan Ishiba become a player in this. At this point Alex Meruelo will NEVER get another dollar from me. I don't see too many fans following Meruelo down another dry hole!😢 I feel so bad for all the Coyotes fans, we deserve so much better than what we've got from Alex Meruelo. I would hope Gary Bettman has seen the damage Meruelo has to this market. I think the damage has been done and most likely hockey will never return to Phoenix.
I was never a coyotes fan but I moved to the valley 7 years ago and fell in love with the team. They’re the ultimate underdog team that’s had all odds stacked against it. Had to leave the valley after COVID but still love the Yotes.
This is heartbreaking. From an Avalanche fan, here’s hoping a miracle happens. You are an incredible fan base and I have always experienced tremendous hospitality at Yotes’ games. Shoutout to the Arizona hockey community.
Also, shoutout to the folks on the PHNX Coyotes’ beat. You are great hockey writers and even if the team leaves, there are lots of hockey fans who will continue to want to read your work and listen to your thoughts.
“Call your agent, everything FINE”… everything was not fine
Best Fans in NHL, haha, yeah, all 8 of them.
Not trolling at all. I WANT the Coyotes to stay in AZ. I BELIEVE hockey can succeed in AZ. BUT YOU HAVE NO ARENA!!!
This whole charade went on way too long.
An embarrassment for over 20 years.
Pack the boxes and move.
Hearing you 3 pouting and crying how horrible it is if y'all lose the coyotes.... i bet none of you cared about ripping this team away from the Winnipeg fans who had their hearts torn out when Jets moved to Phoenix. This is how the Winnipeg fans, players, and employees felt in 1996, so quit acting like this is so much worse. Enjoy the karma and be thankful your team lasted as long as it did in a very unsuccessful and failed market that should have moved away decades ago. I live in Houston and wished the team moved here instead of SLC.
I feel bad for hockey fans in Arizona. Even when/if they get an expansion team to replace the Coyotes, they'll be starting from scratch. It's an insult for fans who watched the carpet bagging team slowly build through the draft the last few years, only to see them leave with all those young prospects. Utah fans, like those in Denver, will get a good, young team from the start.
Thank you guys so much...😢
Ohhhh his is so hard😢😢
Being a fan since the 1996-97 season if the team leaves and we get an expansion team... I will not be a fan of that team.. i will still love my hockey and follow others BUT NOT AN EXPANSION TEAM
Sorry for Coyote fans, I’m from Vancouver and hated when the Grizzles left
If the Grizzlies had one tenth of the number of chances the Coyotes had, they would still be at Rogers Arena.
@@666mathew not if our dollar was still that low, that's what killed the Grizzles
@@jtom68 David Stern made no effort to save the Grizzlies in Vancouver unlike Bettman who's been giving endless chances to the Coyotes for the past 25 years.
@@666mathew it’s kind of hard to stay when you keep losing $5,000,000-$10,000,000 every year
@@jtom68 How much have the Coyotes lost?
I hope the Coyotes stay. Just wish the new arena was planned and built sooner.
I feel so bad for everyone affected by this!! It's such a tough time with how the world is right now and to put this on all the employees of uncertainty is truly terrible! Just keep pushing forward it will all work out in the end!
This is feeling like the Sonics leaving Seattle
I'm OK with the Coyotes leaving but they have to take the Cardinals with them
Long term this is the best for both the Coyotes AND Arizona.
I live in the Midwest, but 3 of my teams are in Arizona. Suns fan since 1993 (Johnson/Marjerle/Barkley, though they always been #2 behind Orlando, as I became a lifelong fanatical Magic fan as well in 1993), Cardinals fan since 1998 (The playoff run, Plummer, and by extension of the Suns), Snakes since 1998 (Always been fascinated by Expansion Teams, and also by extension), and the Mutts since 2013 (Didn't start watching hockey until then, but again went with them as with the exception of the Suns, my #1 Pro teams are all in AZ. My fanatical hockey friend and I refer to them as the "Desert Mutts").
I'm trying to be optimistic about everything.
But at the same time, I am very suspicious. Why would they announce this after the new arena render?
Bah.... I almost feel like this has been a done deal for awhile, and the new arena renderings were actually a promo for the "New" Coyotes "Expansion Team" that will be arriving in 2027 after the "Old" Coyotes team moves to SLC.
Whatever. A small part of me just doesn't care at this point.
Regardless....
GO MUTTS!!!!!
Love you guys, you do a great job.
That’s it. I’m blaming the Eclipse. Somebody looked at the eclipse without glasses and it scrambled their minds. I guess we will have to do what Coyotes fans always do, sit around and wait for the bomb to actually drop.
As an Avs fan, I hope you stay in Arizona
Another Kings fan here. I hate to see you guys lose the Yotes and it's a sad state of affairs.
Lived in AZ for 10 years loved going to yotes games I know there are really passionate fans there
There were/are passionate fans in Winnipeg, Quebec, Hartford and Atlanta. Unfortunately, that won't save a team.
No team in pro sports has been given BIGGER Breaks, than the Pheonix/Arizona Coyotes! IT'S BEEN EXHAUSTING! I do feel sorry for fans being dragged through this but hey, your ownership group sucks time in, time out!
I am sorry this won't work. If I could amend the Constitution of Canada though, I would change it so that no level of government can give money to a for-profit company without a public referendum by the affected voters. I bet there are a lot of people in Alberta who are aghast at the 700 million dollars being given to the Calgary Flames, but there was no referendum. Arizona has way stronger protection for taxpayers, and there is no chance Phoenix voters vote for ANY public funds being used to help this arena along.
It is not just Gary Bettman, if enough owners said enough, he has to do it, he works for the 32 owners, not the players, not the fans, just those guys.
Good intro all around. Frank was ahead on this, it makes sense why the hometown guys were slow to believe him and fought for the hometown story.
Though it's important to note: Craig Morgan's Coyotes-centric reporting inherently limits the bubble, both from his sources and by the audience he's pandering to. Dude has always done good work in that context, but he looks like a guy whose dog just got run over by Merulo here. Gotta feel for him as a person too, if the team moves on the 18th then what is his job in a week? Deserves better, though the fact that he suddenly looks resigned to this means that what he's hearing privately has seen a cataclysmic shift.
While I appreciated the local context as someone who isn’t in Arizona, as a Winnipegger of many decades, I recall the online trolling and mocking by Arizonans when you all got the team, and people out there very much were taking joy in our team leaving. I hate for you all that you now may learn our pain, but with a very obvious difference of being assured of a strong chance of returning, which we never had. I hope things work out in the end for Arizona hockey fans.
There wasn’t internet trolling in 95
Hearing those 3 pouting and crying how horrible it is if they lose the coyotes.... i bet none of them cared about ripping this team away from the Winnipeg fans who had their hearts torn out when Jets moved to Phoenix. This is how the Winnipeg fans, players, and employees felt in 1996, so they can quit acting like this is so much worse. Enjoy the karma and be thankful the team lasted as long as it did in a very unsuccessful and failed market that should have moved away decades ago. I live in Houston and wished the team moved here instead of SLC.
@@fredstillman9563 There was on chat and IM systems, but thanks for coming.
@ThomasAZ There was on chat and IM systems, but thanks for coming.
@ThomasAZPerhaps you weren't, but I can assure you there was plenty of mocking by Arizona hockey fans for a Canadian team moving to the desert. I am glad, though, to be able to safely make the assumption that you would, at least now, agree that such expressions back then were tasteless, just as those mocking Arizona now are being rude, tasteless, and not good representatives of the sport.
So do Friedman and Seravalli get an apology now?
Katie Strang never got hers so...
It annoys me how people who have no idea about Utah (Petey) look up the SLC metropolitan population as if that’s all the people that would go to the games. The entire Wasatch front goes to Jazz games which includes the Provo and Davis/Weber metropolitan areas exceeding well over 2M.
Yeah, I can understand their pain but they are truly clueless about the SLC market. Furthermore, they claimed they didn't want to talk negatively about SLC and then of course made negative references towards it.
The unfortunate fact is that the Coyotes don't have a real arena plan in place. They are hoping to win a land auction. Then they're hoping they can build onto said land with politicians in the surrounding area saying they pretty much don't want a land development project there. The Utah State Legislature has already approved 900 million in public funding for a dual arena for the Utah Jazz and an NHL team to not only get an NHL team but to help in their 2034 Winter Olympic bid. So while these two guys trash the Delta Center and it's 11,000 fan venue for a hockey game they continue to ignore the elephant in the room. There will be a new arena in SLC for an NHL team. There's no guarantee there will ever be an NHL worthy arena built in a preferable area of Arizona in a timely manner. Those are the facts.
Canadians and Arizonans down bad on us getting a team lol
Why does AZ always have the cheap owners. Yotes had 2 arenas and they were such bad tenets that neither wanted to renew their lease in the 5th largest city in the US.
Not a Yote fan, but love watching you 3, thank you...
NHL is done with Phoenix and Atlanta
Isles fan watching from afar. This sucks for the fans! I have to believe that the owners in the nhl wanted Arizona out of mullet. Hockey related revenue
So sorry from Winnipeg
PHNX take the high road and don’t bash the St Lake City market size, etc…
Lol I was sticking up for this podcast show but the bashing of Salt Lake is pathetic. I bet not a single one of you or player has ever spent significant time in Salt Lake.
The Jazz are fielding THT, Jason Preston, Keyonte George, Taylor Hendricks and Brice Sensabaugh and selling out their games at a team that might not win 30 games. And quit looking at Google. The true population of the area is 2.6 Million. Salt Lake is spread out because we want to be. Provo is 40 minutes to the south and Ogden is 40 minutes to the north.
These 3 people acted so sarcastic and childish during this entire saga. I feel reaaly bad for them they put alot of time and energy into this shit show of an organization
Hearing those 3 pouting and crying how horrible it is if they lose the coyotes.... i bet none of them cared about ripping this team away from the Winnipeg fans who had their hearts torn out when Jets moved to Phoenix. This is how the Winnipeg fans, players, and employees felt in 1996, so they can quit acting like this is so much worse. Enjoy the karma and be thankful the team lasted as long as it did in a very unsuccessful and failed market that should have moved away decades ago. I live in Houston and wished the team moved here instead of SLC.
@DR-hy2kn My own comment, I can copy it all I want. At least I have something to say, unlike you.
@DR-hy2kn go ahead. I also can criticize your comment because there is no substance to it, just like the Coyotes ownership plan to stay in AZ.
Delta Center was remodeled 6 years ago, it's seats 14500 for hockey. Lol this is getting sad to watch...... this is your argument? bashing a venue that holds 3x the amount that a college arena holds? The size of the market? It's funny that Surprise can be considered as Phoenix Metro but Ogden isn't part of Salt Lakeand it's a closer travel to Salt Lake than Surprise is to Phoenix...... I get you guys are in panic but do some actual research on Salt Lake.
Yeah, their takes on SLC are pretty embarrassing. They say they don't want to talk down about SLC yet do exactly that. I would ask them one huge question. With all that population in the Phoenix area, why is there not a huge push for an actual tangible arena?Instead, they've resorted to talking about a land auction and the potential for a new arena. A new arena that the mayor of Scottsdale pretty much said we don't want.
Then the Delta Center smack talk... Guess what? They aren't going to be stuck in the Delta Center forever. I think they tried to gloss over this as fast as possible. Smith has 900 million in public funding(I hate public funding for billionaires stadiums/arenas fwiw) for a downtown dual purpose arena for the Jazz and an NHL team. There is no will they or won't they have a long term home and they won't be playing in an NCAA venue. I get it, it sucks losing your team but we have to face the fact that you can't just keep wishing and hoping that the new arena would actually even happen. There has to be actual momentum towards it rather than saying, well, we need to win a land auction and then go from there.
I have a hard time believing this because 1. They are on the same timeline had TED passed. 2. why would Meruelo and the coyotes commit to a land auction if they were to sell the team?
If they were to lose the auction or had no arena plan in place then I can understand this.
Nick, basically the land auction is a back up plan imo
As local in SLC, your silly comments on population is sour grapes. We all know the size of PHX metro is greater than SLC. BUT your numbers are county of SLCo of 1.2 million while a larger population (the wasatch front) is much greater and not a long commute for most areas. Stop making what's happening look like a story of city vs. city numbers rather than what is actually is. Not a good look on your part.
Sorry that all you Arizonans are sad. We Utahns are always very hungry for new opportunities to receive more sports. Just look at how we treat our Jazz in the NBA. Everyone here lives and breathes Utah Jazz basketball. If the Coyotes come here to Utah, they will be in good hands
They can’t take our players 😕
Yes they can mwhahahahahahaha
I get they're emotional, but their remarks about SLC as a market based on a wiki search are pure unadulterated cope. They get told REPEATEDLY by insiders that the people with actual financial skin in the game see no problem whatsoever with SLC as a market and it goes straight over their heads every time.
The weepy pearl-clutching about staff losing their jobs is disingenuous too. How many tears were you guys shedding over Jets staff losing their jobs?
Yeah, they don't know much about SLC at all except to trash the Delta Center(which is not the team's permanent home). Nobody is celebrating the loss of jobs at all. I feel bad for those people. But again, this also happens in many different industries and is sad then too. This is unfortunately how life unfolds. I wish them the best.
Sorry to see all those prospects go. Finally turning things around and poof.
Gone.
This is not the end. Time is currently still on Arizona’s side. This media buzz is ridiculous. Before the rumors even started, the coyotes have a plan to be at mullet the next couple years. The more this purchase drags on and the closer it gets to next season without a purchase of the coyotes by the smith group, the better chance the coyotes get to stay. Bettman is definitely in your corner.
I am moving to phx in January and the coyotes are a huge reason. DONT DO ME LIKE THIS COYOTES
Sad day for sure 😢
I am happy for the Coyotes to be in a place where people might appreciate them more. Phoenix has never really been a hockey town.
Y'all desperately wanted to hear the guests say something bad about SLC
Love the passion guys but it's also obvious you guys are a bit too close to the situation to be objective lol To everyone else in the NHL, Gary Bettman is Taylor Swift and the Coyotes are Bon Iver in their duet "exile" lol
THEN BUILD A G-D ARENA!!!
All you so called Coyote fans, where were you when the team was in Glendale??????
Sorry for the true Coyotes fans but this was inevitable it appears Betteman finally had enough and forced his hand on the team. I don’t see hockey coming back to Arizona it’s done. This is not a Cleveland Browns situation where the city keep the logo and history, there is no real history here. Sorry fans it’s over.
There will be another team in Phoenix eventually, just a matter of when. The market is too big to not have a team in it.
@@huntercopeland9371not before Houston who’s market is bigger.
Bettmans bosses aka the owners of the other teams have had enough
If Atlanta can somehow get a third team, the Coyotes will be back
@@huntercopeland9371I don't know, aside from your correct point about the market value, why they would. It's been a money-losing disaster since day one.
SLC can have Team USA ,leave the Coyotes in AZ. A metroplex of 4.65 million vs a state of 3.1 million people.
Phoenix Population 1.644 million people.
SLC Population 205,000.
How will they do better?
Maybe if a man can get half price tickets for all 8 of his wives.
I hope your Olympics are a no fans permitted just like Tokyo to bankrupt your state.
Will a change the name from coyotes to something else that is better suited for Salt Lake??
Uniforms and color steam changes ?
Didn’t I just read like a day or two ago that they were going to build a new stadium and they got the OK and now this 🤔
Utah Yeti
Coyotes should’ve relocated to SLC years ago when we wanted them in 2009 but it’s finally happening and hockey fans that live in Utah are more than ecstatic. Can’t wait to drop the puck 2024-2025 in the Delta Center. Let’s gooooo!!!!! 🎉🎉
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coyotes fans have been in denial for a long time about this franchise. the coyotes have been a poorly run for decades. I have seen this pod try to damage control instead of analyzing just how many problems this team continues to have all the time. bettman convinced the owners to allow this mess to go on and the breaking point is finally reached.
Hearing those 3 pouting and crying how horrible it is if they lose the coyotes.... i bet none of them cared about ripping this team away from the Winnipeg fans who had their hearts torn out when Jets moved to Phoenix. This is how the Winnipeg fans, players, and employees felt in 1996, so they can quit acting like this is so much worse. Enjoy the karma and be thankful the team lasted as long as it did in a very unsuccessful and failed market that should have moved away decades ago. I live in Houston and wished the team moved here instead of SLC.
I promise that Ryan Smith will do 3 things.... he doesn't want to see a city lose their team, that's not his goal. He will not keep the Coyotes name or history.... he never wanted a relo, he wanted an expansion team. He will make sure that Arizona will have the first opportunity to get them back
That's not his call though. I think Arizona needs to prove they can build an arena in a geographically appealing location in Arizona to have the opportunity to get an expansion franchise.
Best fans lol.
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Back to the 9-5 y’all
Womp womp
The saga that’s been going on almost my whole life is FINALLY ENDING!!!!! 👏 👏 👏 👏 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯
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if only bobble headed bettman would have fought half as hard to keep my north stars in minnesota 😪
Or half as hard to keep the original Jets in Winnipeg.
@@73Ambassador Half as hard? Maybe 1/15! The NHL didn't want Jim Balsillie in the club. Okay, fair enough. Winnipeg was ready to buy back the Coyotes in 2010, but Glendale City Council was fool enough to flush more tax dollars down the drain to prolong the circus!
@@FischerFan you're 💯 correct!
Move this team
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