GMBN Vs GCN | From Here To There: MTB Vs Road Bike Race
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- A question older than time itself, which is faster? A road bike on the road, or a mountain bike off-road? To find out we went to Snowdonia National Park with the new Garmin Edge 530 and Edge 830. Will the more direct off-road route be faster than the longer but smoother road route? Watch now to find out!
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The objective; find some welsh cakes before racing to a picturesque picnic spot underneath a waterfall. The riders; are our very own Neil Donoghue, and the contender, Hank from GCN. The routes (planned with Komoot); Neil will be taking on a 16-mile off-road point to point, stopping off to get welsh cakes on his way to the waterfall; Hank will have 34 miles to cover, picking up the welsh cakes before doubling back on himself to get to the finish. The new Garmins feature MTB Dynamics, technology that measures your airtime, the difficulty of your ride, and rider skill (known as Grit and Flow). Rider-to-rider messaging will help Hank and Neil let each other know when they’ve secured their Welsh cakes. The live track feature will let them know if they need to get a move on!
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Is a a road bike really that much faster? Do you think Neil just got unlucky with the boggy sections? Let us know
I think Hank was cheating. He clearly got lifts from the cameraman on a motorbike😂
guys maybe someday you can do a collab edit that gcn, gtn, embn and gmbn can work out. try all discipline and immerse into the differences, maybe blake will enjoy clipless pedals, skinny tires and lycra. and take the gtn and gcn guys to an epic climb and blast down some fire roads. Si wouldnt be surprised as he do some xc but the other guys might enjoy.
A a road bike might be that much faster, but I'd like to see a b road bike for comparison.
Great video and good challenge, big thumbs up for the camera men and editors the quality of these videos just gets better
Mtb is much harder because some uphill are so steep thats why neil lost
MTB isn't about the destination, it's about the journey
I would argue the same about the riding on the road!
@@fredrik-c best of both worlds, riding Street mtb , go fast when I feel like it , jump stuff and take shortcuts when the feeling takes me.
RB is where you can travel around, I've seen every town in a 100km radius from my home, much better for tourism than MTB
@@Zuroslav kinda cycled all over my country on my MTB though, even to nearby islands , can't really do that on my road bike unless it's an event, never really went exploring on my road bike because my mtb is so much more comfortable.
Wise words from a hentai fan
Salute to Neil’s cameraman who walked 25km of trails. 🤙😂
I bet the cameraman's been riding a motorcycle Sir Ian😂
@@aominedaiki3229 You can actually see his bike infront of the shop.
Eeehhhhy
Unli Ahon ginawgawa mue dito ssob ian hahaha
Hahaha boss ian..
"Have you seen a man with a posh accent in red wrestling outfit?" Got me cracking up
Lol that killed me too!
Me too!@@3dflyer87
I love cycling regardless of the type. But when you see the mountainbike going over mountains and through beautifull nature and the road cyclists having to share the road with cars all the time, I will choose the nountainbike every time.
But my legs hurt like hell after a ride in a mountain.
@@johnvincents.pangilinan1085 that's the point
@@johnvincents.pangilinan1085 you can try downhill
@@shrekisbae21 you dont have to be a jerk about it.
Absolutely nailed it mate same here best of both worlds..
Mountain biking isn’t about going fast, it’s about actually having a good time
Try overtaking cars while doing 70kmh and not having a good time :)
Maximuss haha I think both are really fun and nice
One should do whatever floats their boat
Except they were racing. Stop making excuses.
First of all, they were racing.
And second, cycling can and is just as enjoyable.
@@mxs4193 70KPH hahaha where is it doubt you can do it in 10Mins straight😂
Road was quicker, MTB route was much prettier :)
And fat bikes are cool isnt?
@@juggernautdota2658 yes but u can die just pedaling uphill, haha!!
@brutis the pasty smasher i think anyone who cycles would've known road is faster
@@kgkomrin yes but depends on the route
@@Eng586 yes but if road bike get routes in road,MTB got route in MTB routes..sure roadbuke is winner but if road bike in MTB routes sure MTB in
The only reason I don't have a roadbike is because of all the cars ruining the outside doing sports experience. That's why I will always stick to mountainbiking. Just look at those MTB shots from Neil, says everything: Freedom! 😄
And you can get hit by cars Easley on a road bike.
1200m elevation on 25km would not be the route I pick though 😆
@@ollietrails2934 You can and I can assure you it really hurts. Don't ask how I know
I know my dad got hit and broke his wrist stupid drivers.
@@M3PH11 But i want to know ? :(
Classic Roady saying a 0.5kg cake is weighing him down 😂😂😂😂
Marginal gains🤔😂
im a roadie. because it is our carbon fiber which has an average weight advantage of -200 grams vs the alloy counterpart of each component. and adding the cake just diminishes our money on upgrades. thats why we have 1% body fat
@@iamf6641 Lies
@@ApexHerbivore my ass
Truth stfu
MTB: Versatile, highly adaptable
Road Bike: *I. AM. SPEED...*
Road Bike Got Tour De France(Biggest cycling event in the world)
And MTB got what? 🙄😅
Charles John Galicia
Your point? Lol
@@charlesjohngalicia3054 Check 2011 tour de france winners biks
@@charlesjohngalicia3054 Mtb trails and mountains specifically made for mtb. Not everything becomes superior cause of it's sport, if that was the case football would be the worlds best game wouldn't it?
@@charlesjohngalicia3054 people jumping over them.
Edit: jokes aside, MTBs and Road Bikes are different but both are very enjoyable in their own way.
The road bike does the trail and the mountain bike does the road. That's the video we really wanted. :p
bro that would be possible to if they used a gravel bike for the road cyclist lol love the idea
Would be a mess looking at fcked up road bike tires
Yeah man that's a really wise idea, road bike probably going to have 16 different punctures
Rip road bike😂
hahahaha
“He said where are you fatty, I think he’s talking about my tires” 😂
😂😂 funny asf
Today we learned: Roads were built for a reason
idiot
@@leonel750g4 no u
@@jasoncostan1632 stfu
@@leonel750g4 no u
@@2pop39 men you dont now how to insult 🤦🏻♂️
"It's not a race!"
"but it is a race..."
"ROIGHT." lmao
🤣
I hear tht ROIGHT.
ommoroight mayt?
I have a high end road bike, and a entry level mtb, I love going super speed and feeling the wind on smooth ground on the road bike, but nothing beats the views you get and technical riding of the mtb, and you can achieve the same feeling of speed on flow trails.
I have both two i do love nature riding
Can you achieve the same speed as a road bike in tarmac road
@@djclintoh8746no but it doesn’t really matter unless u race i live flowy jump trails
@@edwin7150 I do race and I have a mtb that I wish to use
Lol
Mountain bikers are so amazing like they get through many obstacles to get their destination and see beautiful scenery
It's like two wheels Top Gear
It is!
Except no producers were punched during this video looking at you clarkson
and no racism!
@@johnnyloco11 Was there ever racism in any of those shows? if yes, against who? fill me in.
No,it’s GMBN & GCN
We're never really about racing against roadies. It's all about those panoramic mountain top views. Those flowy trails and rock gardens. The jumps, descents and climbing in rough trails. These are the reasons we're stoked in mtb. Those Garmins are good btw and it's nice of them to sponsor this video.
The flow metric was low for the mtb. Imagine the flow in an megavalanche race. Insane.
Exactly! We aren't always trying to be fast. Roadies (true roadies) are. I saw a stupid thread about road bikes being faster on the road. Well... Yes! Of course. But I can ride my MTB anywhere, including the road. You can't ride a road bike anywhere other than smooth roads.
You can ride road bikes on cobbles and grass as well, it’s just not as common. I’ve ridden my road bike across a 2km field and it was good, also cobbles are great for road bikes. But I love MTB as well, no hate just saying.
@@bananasstuff3344 yeah fair enough
But they were racing, that's the point of the video lmao
Brilliant cross-over. But as someone has already said, you should really mix it up, GCN on the MTB and GMBN on a road.
@Bob Ferguson: I think it would give GCN just more of an advantage: most of them either have a competitive MTB past (Dan, Si) or they have MTBs or gravel bikes at home now. They don't *just* ride road strictly! Whereas I somehow doubt that Blake or Neil are often donning lycra and a 7kg road bike... 😁
Perhaps, but GMBN had to follow the Garmin where as GCN were just riding on a road. That is s big advantage as you are less likely to have a navigational delay. Much of of the off road track would have been difficult to follow without a navigational (Garmin) device.
@@Alex-vq9vj
Watching that mtb route just already makes me feel tired as hell
here in India, we need a MTB to ride on the rods🙃.
Same here in Philippines
I was thinking same we beed mtb on roads in India 😂
I got a hybrid and it works well but yeah you can't use road bikes here.
@@hirakchatterjee5240 bro which type of bike should I buy ?
For Indian Roads ?
@@clamshot6880 Not all Indian roads are same . But in my area I have really bad roads , so its better to get MTB with suspension. But i chose hybrid because it was on sale.
Im a roadie and i have personal bias on the road bike here, but! damn! that MTB route though..
Literally on the side of the mountain
I'm exhausted just by looking at the climbing section
Hi you 2 Did you like my Cakes “bara brith”
Nice to see you 2 in my shop 😅
NoSkinGod if your passing this way please welcome to our shop try my home-made Cakes 🥰
No way it’s you I would love them but live in Switzerland
Ac3 Sky I have been married to a Welsh man. I have been in Welsh for over 15 years 😘And I can only speak “bore da Sut wyt ti”
I like the cake
@@Al_Maghrabi haha ich auch, hätte nicht gedacht das ich hier auf einen Schweizer treffe ;)
I am a road bike guy, but man that view blends with nature through the mountains and landscapes can t beat ever... Just love it.
*Road bike : Feel the body*
*MTB: Feel the soul*
BMX:Feel The Burn
E-Bike: Feel nothing,
@@markraymundcastelltort9321 Genius! :D
Motorbike: Feel the speed.....
@@markraymundcastelltort9321 fuckk yaa 🤣🤣
Great, regular GCN watcher and at last you come to my village and the shop! Great rides.
Props to the camera and drone work, Wales looks so beautiful! I don't care about winners in these kinds of challenges, but getting to ride that MTB trail looks like a win on it's own :)
props for the cameraman for being able to run that fast.
Road bike may be faster,
But MTB has the views
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What a terrific video! 1:28 when you parted was masterful. Thank you!
Neil just had a crash... recovering... and then just jumps on a bike to race with a roadie... well damm xD
Next time you will have to pick a road route that has lots of cafés, they won't be able to resist :p
😆😆😆
"This cake is definitely weighting me down" who are you, a bloody pigeon?
Atlas 😂😂😂😂😂
cake is not aero LOL
@@bakenekozuki i take that this is a joke
Actually a European swallow
Mate still the view on MTB is priceless.
Wow a cyclist that stopped at a red light
AMAZING
*sAfeTy fiRst*
come to ph and you'll see that kinda thing often.
FirstName LastName not really.I’m also a cyclist in ph and majority of cyclists don’t follow traffic rules and lights.
@@lalalalalalalala5636 Maybe in your area. But my group always follow traffic rules, same with others.
FirstName LastName yes maybe because I live in Manila.Manilenyos no disicpline.
Good to see Neil and Hank for a crossover video. The Don's got jokes, too. "Have you seen a guy with a posh accent in a wrestling outfit?" : )
🤣🤘
Really good to #GCN and #GMBN (and #EMBN have recently been doing shows with #GMBN) working together, after all we all ride bikes, does it matter what they are. Not at all.
Let’s see all the groups get together, A challenge series, where everyone trying out each other disciplines. Points award as in UCI races, let’s see who comes out on top. GCN, GMBM, EMBN, GTN, the challenge is on?
🍓🙈👍🍞📢🧀🧀🧀
4:50 - playing some drum and bass: GMBN, you little beauty.
Living locally and farming the mountain a stone throw away from the waterfall! It is amazing seeing you guys in my hometown!! Keep the good content coming! 👍
Must of been really hard making this video great thumbs up for the awesome footage
The main advantage of MTB is that you can be acceptable fast on the road and very effective in the rough terrain. On the road bike you would be much faster on the road and that's all ;)
Any 1 by drive train MTB is slow af on road, needs a bigger one up front
Given how aero obsessed roadies are its a wonder you don't ever see more low rider recumbents about zipping by at stupid speeds.
@书中自有黄金屋 Damn... it reminds me of my past experience where I got beaten by an old man riding a road bike. My self esteem was crushed within a km. Not to mention that his pedalling are effortless. But I do think that MTB in a road isn't bad for fitness training. Can't wait to see the difference once I make the jump to road bike.
@@MarksTournaments no
Before: As much as I hope its the MTB I think it's going to be the road bike.
After: Knew it. ._.
@i,m a horse MTB is for offroad adventures or for really streets or for paths and the main aim of it is to have fun while making some little jumps and bumping over stuff.
The road bike is for streets and there it is of course way faster than a MTB. The fun about road biking is going fast, descending and even going uphill as fast as you can and pushing your limits. Both can be lots of fun and you can choose what you like more? I like the road bike more because I like going fast and pushing me. But the decesion is yours :)
@@julians5037 I agree with you. I had MTB and riding on MTB was so boring for me. I love road, long climbing, cornering with great grip coefficient on the road.
Roger you can still do all the road bike stuff on an mtb.🥴
@@mihnenkov_psy the fuckk?? the downhill of the mtb is inssaane
Shredd Films ehm, no. Try to do a 150km trip with an MTB lol
i loved the experience and the glorious views on the road, and that sportsmanship in the end was the cherry on the top.
I hope that those greedy motorcycle sellers out there don't discriminate bikes as a marketing strategy. I've been a mountain bike user since 2009 and never will I replace it with a freaking motorcycle like other people did. Biking is part of my physical activities to keep myself healthy and strong.
Love these series where you race another type of bike around (or through) a mountain or valley, thanks for this guys 😀
When I first got into cylcing a little over a year ago, I got my first bike, and it was a roadbike. I loved it, but then had a few accidents, always in some traffic, road-construction, flats harder to fix, and you better not fall off the bike because you hit a pothole or braked too hard, you have to take the next trip to the bikeshop or go online to get new sets of expensive lycras.
Drivers trying to run over you, some literally trying to kill you. You have to hold traffic many times, inhale fumes plus while busy riding those miles you rarely put you head up to enjoy the view, you have to plant your head in that aero position sweriving to avoid potholes in other to get KOMs and beat records. Basically all you see is the asphalt. Don't get me wrong, the speed is intoxicating and I believe cycling is still cycling regardless if it's a fixie, a bmw, recubent,dirt,hybrid,cruiser,unicycle, downhill,trail,enduro,XC or whatever the fuck you want to ride.
I will say, the riskiest one is the roadie, the fact that I have to stick with diesel engines and can't do shit is a nuttjob decides to stop his car in front of me for no reason. MTB fullsuspension on the other hand is pure freedom, I might not be as fast as a roadie on the road but, I don't want to, I do a mixture of everything. I switch between semislick and trail tires depending on where I am riding. The fact that I can hop out of traffic to join pedestrians and later take someone's backyard and pop out of other side of the road is what I call fun and freedom mixed in one. And nature, lord have mercy! the green grass, the snow in winter, the mountains, lakes, streams, rivers, caves, bridges. I am sorry to say guys, MTB is addictive. It got to a stage, I have had my car for over 10years and not planing on buying a car anytime soon. Will I ride my roadie again, hell yeah, but, I know it's not a priority anymore.
Ohh did I mention I ride in rain, snow and muddiest of the muds, downhill tracks? you can only dream of that on a roadie in a billion years, those ever changing landscape is another thing entirely.
That was genuinely exciting viewing, well done both GMBN and GCN.
👍
This has to be one of my favourite video from this channel. I have watched it several times and i really enjoy watching it. 😊
What a totally delightful video! I got here after seeing Hank and Blake sprint up brutal hills in Bristol in the newly released GCN video. The GCN - GMBM cross-over is pure joy!!
Here in the philippines we use mtb in road :V
Kasi hindi patag mga kalsada natin hahaha
mahal kasi ang road bike
Because there are some portions of the road where theres no pavement.. we need versatility
@@kyrioz agreed
mga hardtail gamit hahaha
I guess this is really depends who's riding the bike! I support Niel all the way haha
Who else is so excited to watch a gmbn video
I love how GMBN say that Neil got unlucky with the boggy bits, when they set the route that he knows well and Hank doesn't. Good race Hank.
First off...thanks for the video and the spectacular shots. Second...I've only ever ridden road bikes but watching the amazing views from the mountain bike route I can definitely see the appeal. It's like entering another world, while road biking, while basically riding in the same area, is a lot of asphalt and cars. Keep up the great work. (And finally...one thing that came across was that even though it was a competition, you both had fun and that's the key IMO.)
Hank had lots of advantages:
Advantage 1: he was going down a hill at the start but niel was going up a hill.
Advantage 2: he just uses the filming vehicles slipstream
Hank also had a route twice as long as Neil's.
And I very much doubt he drafted behind the camera car all the time: that would be cheating and unsportsmanlike. Now, if *Dan* were the roadbiker in question... But then they would prominently feature his cheating in the video, so it'd be obvious it wasn't a fair comparison! As they have done: see Dan's adventures in e-roadbiking against non-motorized colleagues...
They use motorbikes anyway,
Motorbikes would be better for slipstreaming.
When we will get official GMBN/GCN tea set and GMBN team jersey that will fit a cake?
We sell mugs and cups in the shop but it may be a while before we see a cake holder 🤣
Do a city commute? Road bike an the streets and a mountain bike shredding stairs and stuff? Would be dope!!
11:37
GCN: Neil can't be going as fast as me
Neil: I AM SPEED
what a brutal challenge!! please more of this!!!! thx it was awesome to watch!
13:16 "I took a shortcut, trust me, it was a horrific shortcut. Ended up being a slowcut". Thanks, Garmin.
That clipless assisted bunnyhop tho 😂 5:05
He used to be a mountain biker so he can actually bunnyhop
I don’t think it was entirely fair as the route Neil took had a lot of climbing and not much technical descents which is what Neil is best at.
I think the camera mans are the fastest, they even fly haha 😂
Awesome. I am envious of your country for having such a beautiful place for cycling.
I have respect for both, but personally i find MTB more fun!
Yeah same it is more fun, but I enjoy both because riding road is more of a relaxing and mental experience really.
@@torinatorproductions3267 yeah also true
He was slower but reckon the beautiful off-road scenery was worth it
Hello guys, my name is Steven I'm from a small town called Ypsilanti in Michigan U.S.!! great race guys!! I enjoyed it!! And just figured out I'm slightly quicker than Hank!! I may not have had similar climbs but i did do a KOM ride the other day!! 33.03 miles!! In 2 hours 11 minutes and 23 seconds!!! That's including being stopped by traffic!!!
There is no question. You simply need one of both. But if I could only afford one, I'd start with the road bike.
Anyone gon talk about how good of a biker the camera men must be? They are keeping up with them, AND FILMING! That’s not an easy task!
Só when is GMBN going to get a XC mountain biker on their roster of riders? They got downhill/enduro/freestyle/dirt jumpers already!
Well GCN has been implementing new channels so I wouldn't be surprised if one of the two started achannel focusing on cyclocross/gravel/bikepacking. The latter two categories have been exploding lately but GMBN and GCN have only lightly talked about the subject. Gravel wise most of the big events and long gravel rides are in the U.S. and other countries.
@@schmojo33 yeah, but GMBN as a channel cover mainly stuff related to gravity focused biking, and XC being a MTB discipline should have a presenter showing up!
@@edu2368 I'm simply supporting your idea by saying I wouldn't be surprised if they move in that direction but lump it in with gravel and bikepacking. And if they did that it could end up on either channel or a separate one such as they did with Electric Mountain Bike Network which is a subchannel. Or another example is the Spanish GCN. Understand?
@@schmojo33 I do, but I still think XC should remain in GMBN, because if we follow that logic, it should be be GEN ( global enduro network)! Jokes aside, cross country is getting gnarly, and the new term "downcountry" should start gathering the attention from this channel!
GCN just had a epic video and now this. Well done
Swap routes, roadbike on trail and mountain bike on road for a real test :)
The MTB route looks quite doable on a gravel bike. And an MTB on roads, well, it's just slower, so what's the point?
@@jochenkraus7016 "doable" lol
@@jochenkraus7016 I will be damned you outrun me on your gravelbike on that mtb route even when given only 25km and I have to take the 50km road.
@@dinoXAs2 Dunno why you're laughing, that's completely correct.
@@dinoXAs2 Inorite? Dude was grinding in low gear in some sections and got stuck in a bog. Good luck trying that route on 25mm slicks and road bike gearing
Lets make it east
Road Bike is all about Speed
MTB is all about control
Hybrid bike: 😶
It's been a while since you took the aeroboys on the trails. And since have quite a few new presenters, i think it would be time to teach them some skills in the dirt.
If this was filmed after Neil's off during the Andes Pacifico then he looks well on the road to recovery. Despite the result of this challenge, it's good to see him riding and riding hard. Welcome back, Neil!
This is cinematic quality. Wow!
Choosing between RB or MTB, i think ill buy RB since I am into speed and roads. To be honest MTB looks good and fun in mountain trails
13:18 This hill climbing blow my mind 😱
I’m crazy about that canyon lux! 😍 I want one right now 😭
This is how many people went around the road biker
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only one like dimwit
Hehaha 26 luul
Great and funny challenge guys! I say that Neil has been slow by the sheeps 🐑🐏 lol special congratulation to the team that has realized this amazing video quality, lots of beautiful pictures 👍
Imagine if the camera man is running LMAO
Both cyclists have different kind of challenging adventure on there way to the finish line. I enjoyed watching from start to finish.
Love a gmbn/gcn collab!
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I would look at the result if mtb was driving along a road and a road bike over rough terrain.
Rip road bike
It's not about the destination but the journey they say. Ok! It's proved by Neil😍 Such amazing views 😍
Everyone: who won???
Me: the camera man 😂😂😂😂
That is a big thumbs up for this video. Loved it. Nice scenario, great challenge and good comments. Thanks for sharing and greetings from a Mountain-Biker from Mallorca 🚲🏔
Hello bro love from India 🇮🇳😊
Welsh cake is different to bara brith lol laughed so hard 😂😂😂
Having ridden a road bike to places, I’d much rather be on a mountain bike and go off road. Much more scenery
And fun
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I’m 11 and I’m new to MTB just got my first PRO MTB... I’m loving being part of the team
I just love it I want to be like you guys on the bike because you guys are professionals
10:36 That's why I'm hesitating between mountain biking and road biking
Did u get mtb (my preferred bike)
Just ride a cyclocross bike and you can do both with one bike ;-)
12:47 is the most English thing I’ve ever seen haha
just watching this makes my knees hurt looking at those climbs 😅 amazing job guys
there should be 2 challenges. First Roadbike and MTB on road. Second challenge Roadbike and MTB on trail. 🤣
If you have a mtb you can ride on the road as well, surley not as fast as on a roadbike, but in the first part the route could have been the same for both.
That doesn't cater to the strengths of the mtb though.