This idea is based on the International Fixed Calendar; a concept that's been around since 1902, and much longer in other forms! It does find some use but I doubt it'll ever be formally adopted. Interesting idea, though.
@@FrenchNToasty They can put hundreds of very small "errors" in the calender's then each year sell a more "Revised" version of the calendar + dffirent styles of calenders
@@sleepycatguy3059 it wouldn't be "small" errors if they are hundreds of them. That would be almost 1/3 of the calendar. I agree they could sell different styles but most people would probably just buy 1 that's erasable. You could get through the whole year with a calendar that has only a month in it, since all months would be the same. After a while I'm sure people could remember the days of the months and not need a calendar at all. Think about it, each Sunday would be a 1st, 8th, 15th & 22nd. Monday a 2nd, 9th, 16th & 23rd. And so on. For events people would remember the "important" ones like xmas and halloween. I would personally Google the rest of them. For instance, the calendar at my job says when daylight saving change is. But I still Google it to be sure because I've had calendars be wrong before. But I bet they will abolish daylight savings worldwide before they change the calendar to 28 days per month.
As funny and whitty as this was... once he got to the part about "wipeable calendars" I was genuinely sold on this new system. The amount of calendars produced every year must be insane
The problem is while this is a good idea, much like the French Republican Calendar, it would drive everyone insane while they got used to it, or more realistically, abolished it.
Interesting part is the intermission he describes used to happen. It lasted for the entire winter period between December and March. They just stopped counting until the winter ended and that was 1st March. They soon added a couple of months during winter to account for this time, which is why quintilius, sextilius, September, October, November and December all got shifted along.
Forgive me, I do not wish to be argumentative. I would merely like to make a few corrections. 1) March 1st would have been considered the 1st day of the new year and the first day of spring. 1a) Please note, there was a 15 day variance between the old and new calendars. On the day the change officially took place, people woke to believe it was April 15th. Surprise! It's April 1st! This, by the way, is how April Fool's day originated. 2) No one would have stopped counting that many days. People still had jobs or work to be done. Winter or not, they still kept track of time. Plus, in a number of places, winter was extremely mild. Consider Rome, both as it was then and as it is now. Rome gets about as much snow as Los Angeles! Although snow is not impossible, it's also not very likely. So the winter you are talking about, is basically a non-issue. 3) In the old calendar, each month had 30 days and yes, there were 12 months. This left an extra 5 days at the end of the year... not 60 - 90, as you were suggesting. These 5 days were seen as part of the annual celebration, known as Saturnalia. These 5 days were not considered part of any month or any week. Although they would be considered part of the calendar year, they were an entity all to their own. Basically, if practiced today, it was Christmas and New Year all rolled into one, lasting anywhere from 5 to 9 days. 9 days? Consider, if Saturnalia started on a Monday and ended on Friday. The preceding and following two days would be the weekend... days you had off from work or school anyway! Thus, giving you up to 9 days of vacation and celebration. Not a bad system, if you ask me. Then, every 4 years, we get an extra day!
@@TonytheCapeGuy yeah, I'm a pizza delivery driver now and it's basically a zero-hours contract, with an "you might actually work at some point" thrown in. if you take an hour to do a ten minute run, you're not likely to get a regular shift.
Did you really think it was just a coincidence that he just happened to have post presentation slides and materials prepared for the exact questions the audience members he called on asked?
I think he probably had an idea of what questions were likely to be asked, and prepared accordingly. If you pay attention he only has slides and props for some of the questions, but not all.
Except the system will be even more worse for things like Easter that is based on the actual mo(o)n(th) and it's corelating movement to the Sun. And this calendar cannot account for the movement of the moon, and that is why months have the length they have now, and weeks have had he lengths 7, 10 and 14 days.
@@redmed10 ... well, isn't *every* Friday a *GOOD* Friday...? I mean, it *IS* The END of a typical workweek... (duh...) Then again, 'every day one chooses or has the option/ability to be alive, or actually *'LIVE'* is technically a *'Good Day'* (for them)... (Typed with YT-Approved SarcasmFont...)
@@NoFretBrettCSSMBFF yes I made a comment that using the system how we work out Easter (the first Sunday after first full moon after the equinox.) It will always land on Sunday 8th June so good Friday will alway be Friday 6th June.
Yeah, that would be considered the luckiest birthday, like, ever. It really was the original most valued date of birth in history. And women would hope and pray that they were lucky enough to have a child on such an auspicious occasion, so the child could be venerated, or at the very least, be higher than their parents' station in life. Yeah, back in the day, many long winters ago, before the calendars got all FUBAR, the intermission was the day of feasting and breaking all the rules. Many people believed that a child born that day could be King. Even if he was born in abject poverty.
The months after august did not get "moved back" because July and August were introduced. Instead the roman year used to start in march. That was also the date the new consuls started their office and formed their armies from the citizenry. However after Rome defeated carthage and found itself in possession of spain, they encountered a problem: when armies are raised in march, it takes too long for them to reach spain and deal with all the rebellions and insurrections during spring and summer. There was no way they were going to change how public officials were elected or armies raised, so they moved the the start of the year to january, giving the consuls enough time to raise troops and ship them to spain in time for campaign season.
@@honestcommenter8424 you are right, if they were born before the change they could just use the old date, but future generations might actually be born on a intermission day 2, i was talking abput them 😄 Edit: dont get me wrong, i like this calender suggestion 👍
@Max Bauer If you think about it, if you were born on intermission, this means you were born on the last 24hrs of the earth orbiting the sun. Depending on the exact time, that might be 28th Gormanuary or 1st March. If you were born on the first quarter of the intermission day, then your 3 birthdays will be on 28th Gormanuary, if second quarter, then your first two birthdays on 28th Gormanuary and 1 birthday on 1stMarch, If in the third quarter, then the first birthday in 28th Gormanuary, and the other 2 on 1st March, if last quarter, then all 3 birthdays are on 1st March. Obviously the fourth birthday will always be on the Intermission day.
And then there's me advocating for 30 days a month, 6 days a week, with 5 or 6 day intermission... In my defense , I wanted to keep 12 months so it stays at 3 months a season.
Yeah that's actually what they did in the pagan world. Saturnian parties after the winter solstice and the birth of the New sun or new year (Catholic Christmas).
Tolkien had some fun calendar ideas based on older calendar systems from other cultures (lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Calendar). The Shire calendar, for instance, had 12 months of 30 days each. Three additional days in the summer (four in leap years) coincided with the summer solstice, and two additional days were accounted in the winter around their yule festival, marking the winter solstice. Personally I like the idea of starting the year on the spring solstice (which is why September was the seventh month at one point in history), followed by three 30-day months, a 2-day holiday to celebrate midsummer, three 30-day months, a holiday to celebrate the fall equinox, three 30-day months, a holiday holiday to celebrate the winter equinox, then three 30-day months to round out the year. Every leap year would add an additional midsummer day. I realize that the summer and winter holidays wouldn't line up directly with the solstices, but it would still ensure that weekdays would line up with the same dates every year. Six day weeks make sense to me so that every month would start and end on the same day.
Give an extra month to summer so we have good weather for longer. Yeah, I know that's bullshit but it makes about as much sense as daylight saving time.
I’m a primary school teacher and I’m often asked by my students why the names of the months don’t match like they should. I knew the bit about the Romans adding July and August but now I can go deeper and propose a solution. I’d definitely vote for this change if it became an election issue.
@@teologen if it only ran for a month in 2019, then how exactly was a clip of this uploaded to RUclips in January of 2016? More time travelers? ruclips.net/video/EcMTHr3TqA0/видео.html
I came across this idea years ago on Reddit, and have had a really hard time convincing anyone that it's a good idea. Now that this video exists, I can just send this link! I think people are much more keen on the idea (and more likely to share it with others) when they get some jokes along with it.
Interesting that he starts the year with March. New Year's Day was Lady Day, March 25th until the 18th century. The fiscal year takes its origin from that date.
The number 1 reason I’m not interested in this is that I was born on a Thursday and I don’t want my birthday to be on a Thursday every year. Also he says he “thought of everything” but didn’t care to explain what happens to people born on Dec 31st. For them that’s either the 365th or 366th day of the year, neither of which ever exist on this calendar. Also the intermission days are interesting but will absolutely screw with all digital time keeping systems.
No more than usual I'd expect. Shall I tell you of that time I had a bug in some spreadsheet importing code that had all the dates wrong by exactly 4 years and one day? Well, it turns out that excel stores time as a floating point number representing the number of days since January 1st 1900, except for some weird reason an early macintosh version used 1904 instead. So that explains the 4 years, but what about the 1 extra day? Well again it turns out that a bug in the leap year code incorrectly made 1900 a leap year, and so all my dates were out by 4 years and 1 day because for whatever reason someone tried to import a spreadsheet from a mac.
@@plonkster Thats pretty crazy 🤣. As always, when you dont have any issues some stuff like that is just waiting around the corner to steal your precious time 😄
It would be much simpler to place all the special cases in the last day/2days of a year, than making entire year a bunch of special cases. Special case can be separated with a simple condition x > 354, and week days can be treated either as a special [8|9]-day week, or a [1|2]-day weak (depending on which is better).
@@friko9 Yeah if you would sit down and do a methodical approach with the new system I see a lot of benefit there. My problem is that the intermissions were so losely defined 😁. The real pain im aiming at is the period in which we adapt to the new system. Youd have to maintain not only both systems for years to come but also code that convertes into the other. Given how long some code stays with us this would be the real nightmare 😄
I'm dying here because a few months ago I was ranting with my mom exactly about just how dumb our current calendar is and how it makes our lives so much more difficult 😂 I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who noticed and gets bothered about how stupid and nonsense is our calendar
Lol! totally agree. I also got my noggin in a pickle over the earth having a circumference of 360° but takes 365.25 days to travel around the sun. Those extra 5.25 days seem messy just like 12 'month' calendar of which makes no mathematical or sequential sense! 🤔🤷♀️🤦♀️
@@Gio-jv7nd when you say something is 3 months long, how many days is that? The fact that you can't know for sure is a perfect example of difficulties the arise from the current system.
Gotta say, as someone who is dyslexic and therefore struggled with remembering the order of the months and how many days their are in each month, this system would certainly be simpler for me lol
Do people actually remember how many days there are in the month? I was like 15 before I could remember the correct order of all the months, there’s no way I’m ever going to remember how many days there are in each month.
Ever since I first heard this talk I've been obsessed with the idea of a fixed calendar. It's become my go-to for my D&D games for its simplicity and ease of use.
This has always been the standard in D&D games. Just get a copy of the original Greyhawk boxed set for an early example. The difference in that scheme is that instead of having a 13th month, the extra 28 days are distributed through the year as 4 week-long festivals.
I made calender 14 months and 8 days a week with 5 weeks a month. That is 560 days a year. But in my world that is perfect. It also allows me to map out religious holidays for races along with celebrations and festivals. Now it does take a little getting use to. But luckily it is just fantasy.
Kodak used a similar system all the way up until computerisation in the 80s. The thirteenth month was called Sol. Apparently staff found it easier to track sales periods and deadlines because everything was much simpler to follow.
Dave (either Dave the Gorman or Dave the Channel), would you consider having a subtitles option on the videos? There's the auto-caption button, but they don't recognise most words.
Personally I think we should just rename all the months as well. First of all it's very confusing to keep the old names but move things around. It will probably cause a lot of misunderstandings and problems for a long time, I think it's easier for our brains to figure things out if it's just entirely new. Second of all, I think it's an opportunity to change all these old names based on gods and latin numbers or whatever and make them more fun while we're at it. (We should keep Gormanuary though, because it sounds stupid and funny) About intermission, if it's two days long and there are no day of the week names, do we call it intermission 1 & 2? I think it's pretty funny if we call it intermission "part 1" and "part 2". Anyway, it sounds like the perfect time to reflect on the last year and the upcoming year and set goals and prepare for the new year. As well as r&r and recharge for the new year.
@@davids3539 That wasn't the point. It is wipe clean so that you can write on/wipe off, it would have 13 pages (and one non-page for the non-day of Intermission) but you don't need another calendar for next year as (eg) 17th Gormanuary will always be a Tuesday. We would need 14 calendars currently for the same capability.
It makes perfect sense. They stuffed 13 months into 12, to make you work hard and give you back days that were aleady yours and call them vacation, like they are doing you a favor.
Also... start the year when spring starts in the northern hemisphere. It would make much more sense to start the year when a season starts rather than the middle of winter.
@@chaos.corner well the day of equinox is what everybody uses, the 21st of march. It can vary by a day or so because of the 29th of feb, otherwise it varies only over very long periods of time
@@chaos.corner what do you mean wikipedia page for spring? It’s the equinox that starts spring, period, at least in France. It’s the most logical thing. Each season starts/ends with a solstice or an equinox.the solstices are inverted depending on the hemisphere and so are the seasons that s the only problem..
I've been thinking about this exact structuring of months for a while now. I think it makes waaayyyy more sense. The only caveat is that I want to rename ALL the months. Because I want to apply the japanese naming of months which is Ichigatsu, nigatsu, sangatsu etc... which translates literally to one month, two month, three month etc... or grammatically more acceptable for english speakers: month one, month two, month three etc...
All jokes aside, this is a serious calendar that has been proposed to replace the current Gregorian calendar (apart from naming the 13th month ‘Gormanuary’ anyway, lol). If you’re interested then you should check out the Wikipedia page ‘Calendar Reform’.
4:05 I have worked out the bank holidays (British) New year: 2nd March (Monday) May Day: 9th Quintilis (worked out by which day would be Monday between 1st and 7th May in the current system) Late spring: 9th Sextilis (worked out by which day would be Monday between 25th and 31st May in the current system) Late summer: 16th November (23rd October in Scotland and Northern Ireland) (worked out by which day would be Monday between 25th and 31st August in the current system (1st and 7th in Scotland and Northern Ireland)) Christmas Day: 23rd Gormanuary (Monday) Boxing Day: 24th Gormanuary (Tuesday) Easter Sunday could be either 1st, 8th, 15th, 22nd June or 1st Quintilis, making Good Friday on either 27 May, 6th, 13th, 20th or 27th June and Easter Monday on 2nd, 9th, 16th, 23rd June or 2nd Quintilis (worked out by which day would be Sunday between 22nd march and 25th April in the current system.
Dave raises a very good point aside from the naming conventions but why don’t we use lunar months and a nice intermission. My new life goal is to make this calendar the standard
As Chinese I never had problems, we just call month 1 as Jan, or weekday 1 instead of Monday. But we also had a lunar calendar which that is why i don’t know my parents’ nor my birthday every year
Since both days are called intermission in a leap year, they're just one double-length day that happens to have a night in the middle. So you get to have a birthday every year!
You could also stick with 12 months, but have all be 30 days long. That gives us a sweet, long intermission of 5 days, like in the Egyptian or Zoroastrian calendar. Or, do like the modern Persian calendar: The first 6 months have 31 days and the 5 following months have 30 days. The last month has 29 days in normal years and 30 days in leap years.
It is called the ‘World Calendar’, and was a serious proposal about 50-60 years ago, but fell down due to having to fit with the idea of a sabbath every 7 days for religious types, and the ‘world day’ is the extra day (what Gorman called intermission). The reason 7,8,9,10 are wrong is that new year used to be march, but it got changed (1780s, if I recall).... there was a period where people would write dates as 1782/3 in Jan/Feb for the transition (I might have exact date wrong)
I'd base my calendar on the sun. There's a clear and consistent pattern of solar declination that occurs with respect to the 20th/21st of each month. It's not perfectly aligned at the moment due to uneven months and precession. But with more even months and precession averaged out, the declination pattern is: 0°, 12°, 20°, solstice. The calendar would start on March 1, which would be the equivalent of vernal equinox, which is March 20. You would quickly find this aligns very seamlessly with the seasons, even in the tropics where they have monsoonal seasons. As opposed to what's proposed in the video, which would for example convert July into more of a spring month. Odd months get 30 days, even months get 31 days. (February would be 30 days except for leap years.) An advantage is if you're born on a weekday, you'll get to celebrate your birthday on the weekend occasionally.
Prior to the Druids changeing it, there was a 13 month cycle but they didn't call it a month, it was based on the moons 28 day cycle. Thus there use to be 13 signs in the zodiac, The one they eliminated was Ophiuchus.
Ophiucus never was a zodiac sign. Sorry. But yes the actual zodiac came from the constellations. (And yes the starting dates are wrongly set by the “seasonal” astrology)
I've been waiting for a reply for an hour now ,I cant wait a sixtieth more mate ,it was a good thing certain people were displaced because "see you in afew mins" might mean something completely different today .😂
When I learned calendar systems in college, this was exactly my thinking. Exactly exactly. Even with those "intermission" day or days, that are not called anyhow, they are just intermission.
🤣 great show! And the calendar actually sounds like a good idea... i do have to mention that since Julius caesar was the person who created the Roman calender, and put a lot of work into it, i think he can have a month named after him...
There are standard financial reporting calendars that use 13 months of 4 weeks (and slip in one extra week in the last month every 5-7 years to realign for 364 days not matching 365 or 366). Retailers sometimes use that sort of calendar (to make sales figures more comparable year on year, although the other more common common financial reporting calendar divides the year into quarters, each with 2 months of 4 weeks and one of 5 weeks, again with one extra week slipped into the last quarter every 5-7 years to realign. This latter sort is often called a "454" calendar, although the week pattern is sometimes 544 or 445.. And of course revolutionary era France proposed some strange ideas for calendar reform.
There are nearer 12 than 13 lunar cycles in the year. These cycles lead to the formation of the months. But just because things are logical doesn't mean we're just going to use them. Otherwise we should lose the decimal system and go back to everything revolving around multiples of 12
@@seanamh420 OK, not as much sense. It's not like it's nonsensical. But 10 divides only by itself, 1, 2 and 5. 12 divides by itself and 1 naturally too, but also by 3, 4 and 6. So the options for calculating and dividing are significantly higher and flexible.
This is the International fixed calendar invented in 1902 by Moses B. Cosworth. The alignment was thrown off when the Romans went from 10 to 12 months in 304BC, long before August and July were named. I don't believe in astrology but there is already a 13th zodiac sign named Ophiuchus.
I've always wondered why in the current calendar, 1 day each couldn't be taken from 2 of the 31-day months, say March & May, and given to February, so that February has 30 days. This would mean 7 months of 30 days (the current 4 plus Feb, March, May) and 5 months with 31 days (Jan, July, Aug, Oct & Dec). You could then have a referendum to decide which of the 30-day months gets the extra leap-year day.
I've always thought the same! Why the hell the person who made the calendar decided to make february so much shorter than the other months while there are some with 31 days??? It just doesn't make any sense
I think that was the Romans again. Making February the shortest month because it was an unlucky month due to it containing so many rituals of the dead.
There's always a historical reason for why something is as it is. This particular calendar is the result of several reforms and "fixes" across centuries. It wasn't designed as the calendar we have today. The Persian calendar, which I keep mentioning, was also a reform of an older calendar, but they simplified it and made it more sensible. Some claim that when Pope Gregory commissioned a new calendar to replace the Julian, they did consider adopting the Persian calendar. But they didn't for obvious religious reasons. If only they had been more sensible, we would've used a much more sensible calendar today, and this video wouldn't exist. And I dare to say we'd still be Christian. The Hindu-Arabic numerals didn't make us Hindu or Arabic after all.
The reason September, October, November, and December are 7,8,9, and 10 has nothing to do with Julius and Augustus, they renamed existing months(Quintilis, and Sextilis respectively), not added new ones. The year used to start on the 15th of March prior to the Julian Calendar to coincide with the consulate first entering office(people would then count years of the consulates reign). The change to the 1st of January was done because Caesar was correcting for previous leap year miscalculations resulting in a 445 day long year and the shift of the start of the year to realign things, this also brought the start of the year the 1st of a month which made a lot more sense. I should point out he corrected for leap years every 4 years, but that's not accurate and still resulted in the year starting in the wrong place, this was fixed with the Gregorian calendar about 1,600 years later, but the Julian calendar did drift a lot less than the previous 354 day calendar that didn't have leap years at all.
29th February happens every four years. The centuries are missed unless they divide by 400. This is why 2000 was a leap year. I have a work colleague who was born on 29th February 1992. I’ve warned him not to expect a birthday in 2100! 😜
Why have seven days in a week though? I've been advocating a similar but more comprehensive change for years. One week is ten days, with the first, fifth and tenth days being rest days. One month is three weeks. One year is 12 months, with January and February at the end. Good addition. Five or six days are holidays which are named but not numbered, to include one day each season, one additional late spring day, and a leap day. Other days can be bank holidays also, but these are still numbered. And while we are at it, everyone works on the same clock too. Granted, that means Dolly Parton may have to sing "Working 2 to 10". NO seasonal changes either. Programmers everywhere will rejoice.
If we're going this route, we ought to go all-in and rename the months to Latin numerals: Unius, Secundus, Tertius, Quartus, Quintilis, Sextilis, September, October, November, December, Undecember, Dudecember and Tridecember
Even though I think your idea is brilliant, I have another suggestion. I think we should abolish the use of months completely and just use the day of the year. For example the first of January of 2021 should be "2021001". Use 4 digits for the year and 3 digits for the day. The digits for the day would go from 001 to 365 or 366. There are several advantages to this system: 1. Any date in the past can be easily converted to the new system. 2. The number of days between 2 dates in the same year is easily obtained by a simple subtraction. 3. The new system is independent of any political or religious themes (well, except for the year...). So the new system can be used by any country in the world, independent of politics, religion or culture. Remembering that the calendar used in the west is the Gregorian calendar and it was proposed by the Catholic church, and the months of July and August are direct references to Roman emperors. Many countries in the world are understandably reluctant to adopt a calendar that is based on different politics or religion. 4. Any calendar in the world can be converted to the new system easily. Japan, China, Iran and many other countries in the world have their own calendar, many of them may be incompatible with the Gregorian calendar. 5. You can still use weeks and the word "month" to refer to a group of 28 days or 4 weeks. But words like "month" or "week" are just for convenience, the calendar itself should not make any reference to month or week.
I’ve often thought the 12 month calendar seems antiquated. 13 months of 28 days does make more sense, plus a leap month to compensate for the extra day
That's how it used to be. February being the last month of the year. That's why they took 1 day out of February when August wanted 31 days on his month (because ego) and the name of other months. And there were other calendar systems. One of them consisted of 12 months with 30 days and a 5 day "intermission" which was a end of the year holiday. It's important to have a 12 month year because you can divide the 4 seasons pretty evenly. How do you do it with a 13 month year? Seasons are not that important since agriculture is not such a big part of our life right now, but it was back then and it is important for calendar purposes Also, in this case, the days of week still varies, but it is a bit because of how the moon works. We divide weeks in 7 days because it is roughly the time the moon does each of it's phases. So for lunar calendars, it is important that weeks continues with no interruption But, anyway, jokes aside, nice approach. Very clever to skip one day so you have a nice multiple of 7.
A few issues: 1. What about religions that keep one day a week as a holy day? Intermission would push it to a different day. The religions are based on a different calendar system, so wouldn't be able to accept "Intermission". 2. Why bother with months at all? Why not just make it day-of-year/year? So, today's date is 319/2020. Months are already meaningless, since a purely-solar calendar doesn't track the moon. Even simpler than your system.
Well most modern Christians consider Sunday holy, so they can keep right on having their Sunday services. And for 7th-day Adventists, they can keep right on doing Saturday. (Shrug) Doesn't seem complicated to me.
@@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her Not exactly. Let's say the year (before intermission) ends on a Saturday. That means, the next day-intermission-is technically Sunday, so Christians would have services on intermission. Then, the next day, which becomes Sunday on the new calendar, would be treated like a Monday according to Christians since they just had services a day earlier. So, while it's _called_ Sunday on the new calendar, it won't be every seven days precisely, and will shift by one or two days due to intermission.
The Chinese just use their own calendar for anything related to religion or culture. For example, the Chinese Lunar New Year falls on a different date of the Gregorian calendar every year, and everyone is okay with that. I think the religions can just stick to each of their own calendars for their special days.
This is a good idea. But he's wrong about why the months don't line up with the numbers. Renaming Sextilis and Quintilis to august and july wouldn't (and didn't) mess up the rest of the calendar (How would that even make sense?). The change happened nearly a millennium before, according to Livy. Where before that March was the first month of the 10 month calendar. January and February were initially added to the end of the year to make a 12 month calendar. Then a few hundred years later, they were moved to first and second position, messing up the numbering
New year's day, in the Uk at least, was on March 25th (Lady Day) until 1752. In that year the Gregorian calendar was adopted in place of the original roman-designed Julian calendar, and New Year's Day was moved to January 1st. In your explanation the months of January and February don't really move as such, it is really only the numbering that moves (i.e. the point when when we deem the year number to have incremented and the month number to reset to 1). If January and February are deemed to be the last months of the year then they followed a December which followed a November etc, and if they are the first months of a year they still followed a December which followed a November.
"Can you imagine the ego of naming a month after a human being"
"Gormanuary" Best line
Sharing the surname, I approve this change.❤😅
Best line and his only one.
Fun fact: July was named after Julius Caesar!
@@KGam88 I watched the same video as you mate.
@@TheOneAndOnlyCatfish. only watched the intro, glad that history was included bud!
Jokes aside the system itself sounds much more convenient
Would also be more environmentally friendly since millions of people wouldn't have to buy a new calendar each year.
@@HORRIOR1 think of the mass unemployment it would create in the calendar industry.
I prefer the ebbing flows of the Gregorian one. I like the revolving days that birthdays and others festivities fall on.
Thomas - It's freaks like you that no doubt prefer daylight saving time shifts
This idea is based on the International Fixed Calendar; a concept that's been around since 1902, and much longer in other forms! It does find some use but I doubt it'll ever be formally adopted. Interesting idea, though.
Calendar companies:
*Now this is an avenger level threat*
I read Avenger as average.
Actually if they switched them halfway through the year their profits would pretty much double
@@supershane1305 Yeah, but just for that *one* year though
@@FrenchNToasty They can put hundreds of very small "errors" in the calender's then each year sell a more "Revised" version of the calendar + dffirent styles of calenders
@@sleepycatguy3059 it wouldn't be "small" errors if they are hundreds of them. That would be almost 1/3 of the calendar. I agree they could sell different styles but most people would probably just buy 1 that's erasable. You could get through the whole year with a calendar that has only a month in it, since all months would be the same. After a while I'm sure people could remember the days of the months and not need a calendar at all. Think about it, each Sunday would be a 1st, 8th, 15th & 22nd. Monday a 2nd, 9th, 16th & 23rd. And so on. For events people would remember the "important" ones like xmas and halloween. I would personally Google the rest of them. For instance, the calendar at my job says when daylight saving change is. But I still Google it to be sure because I've had calendars be wrong before. But I bet they will abolish daylight savings worldwide before they change the calendar to 28 days per month.
As funny and whitty as this was... once he got to the part about "wipeable calendars" I was genuinely sold on this new system. The amount of calendars produced every year must be insane
I believe they've selling a bit less as more people aren't buying them and ink is expensive. Hopefully.
@MITUK Welcome to capitalism! You must be new here
YES, Why dont we already have that normally!
I honestly hate how much sense it makes. And I want to start using it.
@@jonathanVN1864because the day of the week that each date falls on changes from year to year.
“My advice to astrologers is just keep making it up as they always do” 6:25 😂😂😂😂
Didn't he spend an entire TV series proving that Astrology works?
@@martineyles
You're talking about a comedian still.
@@martineyles He proved that it didn't work
@@gregh378 Perhaps you missed the last 5 minutes where it transformed from dismal failure to overwhelming success.
This is my favorite bit from this series because I genuinely believe we should try something like this.
I agree, if we have to deal with daylight savings twice a year I'm sure we can figure this system out
It aligns the lunar and solar calendar perfectly.
@@AuntyAwesome Let's do away with that while we're about it.
@@AxelQC Not really.
The problem is while this is a good idea, much like the French Republican Calendar, it would drive everyone insane while they got used to it, or more realistically, abolished it.
Interesting part is the intermission he describes used to happen. It lasted for the entire winter period between December and March. They just stopped counting until the winter ended and that was 1st March. They soon added a couple of months during winter to account for this time, which is why quintilius, sextilius, September, October, November and December all got shifted along.
"Intercalary period" is the technical term, for anyone searching for more info on this.
Forgive me, I do not wish to be argumentative. I would merely like to make a few corrections.
1) March 1st would have been considered the 1st day of the new year and the first day of spring.
1a) Please note, there was a 15 day variance between the old and new calendars. On the day the change officially took place, people woke to believe it was April 15th. Surprise! It's April 1st! This, by the way, is how April Fool's day originated.
2) No one would have stopped counting that many days. People still had jobs or work to be done. Winter or not, they still kept track of time. Plus, in a number of places, winter was extremely mild. Consider Rome, both as it was then and as it is now. Rome gets about as much snow as Los Angeles! Although snow is not impossible, it's also not very likely. So the winter you are talking about, is basically a non-issue.
3) In the old calendar, each month had 30 days and yes, there were 12 months. This left an extra 5 days at the end of the year... not 60 - 90, as you were suggesting. These 5 days were seen as part of the annual celebration, known as Saturnalia. These 5 days were not considered part of any month or any week. Although they would be considered part of the calendar year, they were an entity all to their own. Basically, if practiced today, it was Christmas and New Year all rolled into one, lasting anywhere from 5 to 9 days.
9 days? Consider, if Saturnalia started on a Monday and ended on Friday. The preceding and following two days would be the weekend... days you had off from work or school anyway! Thus, giving you up to 9 days of vacation and celebration.
Not a bad system, if you ask me. Then, every 4 years, we get an extra day!
Let me introduce my calendar as a shift worker:
-working days
-non working days
My unemployment calendar:
- Leaving the house for an appointment.
- Wedn-no wait, Friday. No, that was yesterday. Or was it two days ago...?
I think you'd like the Liberalia Triday Calendar
I am a shift worker. When people say it's time to work I shift.
Let me introduce the calendar as a food service schedule:
Possible workdays
@@TonytheCapeGuy yeah, I'm a pizza delivery driver now and it's basically a zero-hours contract, with an "you might actually work at some point" thrown in. if you take an hour to do a ten minute run, you're not likely to get a regular shift.
i love that he opened the floor for questions, he was that confident in his system
"We'll *nail* easter down" this guy's ability to come up with jokes on the spot is amazing 😂
He's quite clever and funny, but this was all scripted. Not saying there's anything bad about that, it's just not improv.
Did you really think it was just a coincidence that he just happened to have post presentation slides and materials prepared for the exact questions the audience members he called on asked?
I think he probably had an idea of what questions were likely to be asked, and prepared accordingly. If you pay attention he only has slides and props for some of the questions, but not all.
@@ArcadiaCvand they also had mics
Except the system will be even more worse for things like Easter that is based on the actual mo(o)n(th) and it's corelating movement to the Sun. And this calendar cannot account for the movement of the moon, and that is why months have the length they have now, and weeks have had he lengths 7, 10 and 14 days.
"Nail down Easter"? So many levels that joke.
Well only 2 really.
I followed... but thought,
*"Is 'Good Friday' going to actually fall on a *Friday*...?"*
@@NoFretBrettCSSMBFF
And what's good about it?
@@redmed10 ... well, isn't *every* Friday a *GOOD* Friday...?
I mean, it *IS* The END of a typical workweek... (duh...)
Then again, 'every day one chooses or has the option/ability to be alive, or actually *'LIVE'* is technically a *'Good Day'* (for them)...
(Typed with YT-Approved SarcasmFont...)
@@NoFretBrettCSSMBFF yes I made a comment that using the system how we work out Easter (the first Sunday after first full moon after the equinox.)
It will always land on Sunday 8th June so good Friday will alway be Friday 6th June.
"What happens in intermission stays in intermission." With my luck, I'd have been born on intermission...
I'd consider that lucky - your birthday is on the partying-est day of the year, and every fourth year your birthday is two days long!
Imagine what they would have written in your passport or birth certificate "DoB: Intermission" 😂😂
You were likely conceived in intermission position!
Yeah, that would be considered the luckiest birthday, like, ever. It really was the original most valued date of birth in history. And women would hope and pray that they were lucky enough to have a child on such an auspicious occasion, so the child could be venerated, or at the very least, be higher than their parents' station in life. Yeah, back in the day, many long winters ago, before the calendars got all FUBAR, the intermission was the day of feasting and breaking all the rules. Many people believed that a child born that day could be King. Even if he was born in abject poverty.
So you don't exist, you stay in intermission
The months after august did not get "moved back" because July and August were introduced. Instead the roman year used to start in march. That was also the date the new consuls started their office and formed their armies from the citizenry. However after Rome defeated carthage and found itself in possession of spain, they encountered a problem: when armies are raised in march, it takes too long for them to reach spain and deal with all the rebellions and insurrections during spring and summer. There was no way they were going to change how public officials were elected or armies raised, so they moved the the start of the year to january, giving the consuls enough time to raise troops and ship them to spain in time for campaign season.
This is all part of the "everything got moved around at a later date" - what he said was correct
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Found the calendar nerd
Wow , learned something new. Thank you!
That was indeed interesting piece of information, I appreciate you take the time and effort. Finally someone worth reading in this comment section.
Nailing down Easter is great joke!
Bit of a slow burn in the audience but they eventually got it!
And nobody got cross.
i still dont get it lol
@@pvic6959 jesus got nailed to the cross on easter
@@agenteggboy9526 omg how did i not get that.. thanks!
@@agenteggboy9526 He resurrected on Easter he was nailed to the cross 3 days prior.
This is really good. This means people who are born on a 29th Feb can finally celebrate their birthdays every year rather than once every 4 years.
Yes, but people born on intermission day two will have that issue now ^^
@@maxbauer51 This mean people who are born on 31 Dec on a leap year? They can just celebrate the old date 😁
@@honestcommenter8424 you are right, if they were born before the change they could just use the old date, but future generations might actually be born on a intermission day 2, i was talking abput them 😄
Edit: dont get me wrong, i like this calender suggestion 👍
You don’t count intermission as days, you skip them if your birthday would be on that day
@Max Bauer If you think about it, if you were born on intermission, this means you were born on the last 24hrs of the earth orbiting the sun. Depending on the exact time, that might be 28th Gormanuary or 1st March. If you were born on the first quarter of the intermission day, then your 3 birthdays will be on 28th Gormanuary, if second quarter, then your first two birthdays on 28th Gormanuary and 1 birthday on 1stMarch, If in the third quarter, then the first birthday in 28th Gormanuary, and the other 2 on 1st March, if last quarter, then all 3 birthdays are on 1st March. Obviously the fourth birthday will always be on the Intermission day.
And then there's me advocating for 30 days a month, 6 days a week, with 5 or 6 day intermission... In my defense , I wanted to keep 12 months so it stays at 3 months a season.
Yeah that's actually what they did in the pagan world. Saturnian parties after the winter solstice and the birth of the New sun or new year (Catholic Christmas).
But this system conflicts with religions, which depend on the 7 day week often
That's pretty close to what they actually did during the French revolution, except each month had 3 "weeks" of 10 days.
Tolkien had some fun calendar ideas based on older calendar systems from other cultures (lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Calendar). The Shire calendar, for instance, had 12 months of 30 days each. Three additional days in the summer (four in leap years) coincided with the summer solstice, and two additional days were accounted in the winter around their yule festival, marking the winter solstice. Personally I like the idea of starting the year on the spring solstice (which is why September was the seventh month at one point in history), followed by three 30-day months, a 2-day holiday to celebrate midsummer, three 30-day months, a holiday to celebrate the fall equinox, three 30-day months, a holiday holiday to celebrate the winter equinox, then three 30-day months to round out the year. Every leap year would add an additional midsummer day. I realize that the summer and winter holidays wouldn't line up directly with the solstices, but it would still ensure that weekdays would line up with the same dates every year. Six day weeks make sense to me so that every month would start and end on the same day.
Give an extra month to summer so we have good weather for longer. Yeah, I know that's bullshit but it makes about as much sense as daylight saving time.
I don't think Friday the 13th as an unlucky day would go away completely but you would have a Friday the 13th of the 13th (Gormanuary).
We'd have Friday the 13th every month if the 1st was on a Sunday, imagine all the Jason movies that would come out!
... in roughly 92 years,
*the 13th Friday the 13th of 2113*
I’m a primary school teacher and I’m often asked by my students why the names of the months don’t match like they should. I knew the bit about the Romans adding July and August but now I can go deeper and propose a solution. I’d definitely vote for this change if it became an election issue.
i don't think changing the calender is going to be an election issue lmao
I saw this clip like 4 years ago, and have advocated for this system ever since.
Are you a time traveller? This show aired from 21st October - 9th December 2019. So it can’t have been more than 16 months ago.
@@teologen if it only ran for a month in 2019, then how exactly was a clip of this uploaded to RUclips in January of 2016? More time travelers? ruclips.net/video/EcMTHr3TqA0/видео.html
@@teologen this episode was broadcast Oct 2015
@@teologen never mind james being a time traveller (false alarm) are YOU living in a parallel universe??
I don't really see it as a joke at all. It seems like a very good system.
I came across this idea years ago on Reddit, and have had a really hard time convincing anyone that it's a good idea. Now that this video exists, I can just send this link! I think people are much more keen on the idea (and more likely to share it with others) when they get some jokes along with it.
Interesting that he starts the year with March. New Year's Day was Lady Day, March 25th until the 18th century. The fiscal year takes its origin from that date.
The number 1 reason I’m not interested in this is that I was born on a Thursday and I don’t want my birthday to be on a Thursday every year.
Also he says he “thought of everything” but didn’t care to explain what happens to people born on Dec 31st. For them that’s either the 365th or 366th day of the year, neither of which ever exist on this calendar.
Also the intermission days are interesting but will absolutely screw with all digital time keeping systems.
My problem with this is if you're born on a Tuesday you have to celebrate you birthday on a Tuesday for the rest of your life!
Yea, but like not really. Just do it next weekend if you want
@@lghal1 Then it's not your birthday. People like to celebrate ON their birthday.
Do what the wife does, celebrate all week long 😂
What if you're born on Intermission?
@@Sirenhound
Every 4th year you get a two day long birthday.
This will inevitably lead to intermission being renamed Purge Day
...lol exactly how i thought it would be...
Actually every seventh year, old societies would hold a jubilee and forgive all debts.
So intermission could just be that, no purge necessary.
Our billing cycles at my work are 28 days for a month and this would alleviate so much confusion.
As a programmer, intermission(s) would make time and dates even worse 😂
Didnt think of that damn
No more than usual I'd expect. Shall I tell you of that time I had a bug in some spreadsheet importing code that had all the dates wrong by exactly 4 years and one day? Well, it turns out that excel stores time as a floating point number representing the number of days since January 1st 1900, except for some weird reason an early macintosh version used 1904 instead. So that explains the 4 years, but what about the 1 extra day? Well again it turns out that a bug in the leap year code incorrectly made 1900 a leap year, and so all my dates were out by 4 years and 1 day because for whatever reason someone tried to import a spreadsheet from a mac.
@@plonkster Thats pretty crazy 🤣. As always, when you dont have any issues some stuff like that is just waiting around the corner to steal your precious time 😄
It would be much simpler to place all the special cases in the last day/2days of a year, than making entire year a bunch of special cases.
Special case can be separated with a simple condition x > 354, and week days can be treated either as a special [8|9]-day week, or a [1|2]-day weak (depending on which is better).
@@friko9 Yeah if you would sit down and do a methodical approach with the new system I see a lot of benefit there. My problem is that the intermissions were so losely defined 😁. The real pain im aiming at is the period in which we adapt to the new system. Youd have to maintain not only both systems for years to come but also code that convertes into the other. Given how long some code stays with us this would be the real nightmare 😄
I laughed so hard when he said "nail Easter down" ROFL!!!
THATS the irreverent humor I come here for. New fan, right here.
New subscriber here too!
I'm dying here because a few months ago I was ranting with my mom exactly about just how dumb our current calendar is and how it makes our lives so much more difficult 😂
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who noticed and gets bothered about how stupid and nonsense is our calendar
What did your mom say?
How does our current calendar make life difficult?
Lol! totally agree. I also got my noggin in a pickle over the earth having a circumference of 360° but takes 365.25 days to travel around the sun. Those extra 5.25 days seem messy just like 12 'month' calendar of which makes no mathematical or sequential sense!
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@@Gio-jv7nd when you say something is 3 months long, how many days is that? The fact that you can't know for sure is a perfect example of difficulties the arise from the current system.
@@iwonder7480 that easily explained by the fact that a day is based on the rotation of the earth not travel around the sun.
Gotta say, as someone who is dyslexic and therefore struggled with remembering the order of the months and how many days their are in each month, this system would certainly be simpler for me lol
Do people actually remember how many days there are in the month? I was like 15 before I could remember the correct order of all the months, there’s no way I’m ever going to remember how many days there are in each month.
Funny thing is in the 90s i use to wonder why we didn't just have 12 months of 28 day and one month of 29 days.
You mean 13 months of 28 days
You know the country Ethiopia has 13 months in their calender but it's 12 months are 30 days and the last month 5 days 6 on leap year
@@tyeprofessorx8348 that's quintessential Julian calendar stuff, right there.
@@ben8280 13x28=364, a year is 365 days. Therefore one month will have 29 days. And for leap years 2 months would have 29 days.
“They all got moved around at a later date” this is like saying “what time did the clocks go back?”
Okay all the humour aside, this is genius and I want it.
Just for those wondering, this is from Modern Life is Goodish - Series 3, Episode 7, in case you want the full episode
I wasn't - but thank you, anyway! ;)
I tried googling it to no avail, so this was helpful thank you!
Ever since I first heard this talk I've been obsessed with the idea of a fixed calendar. It's become my go-to for my D&D games for its simplicity and ease of use.
This has always been the standard in D&D games. Just get a copy of the original Greyhawk boxed set for an early example. The difference in that scheme is that instead of having a 13th month, the extra 28 days are distributed through the year as 4 week-long festivals.
I made calender 14 months and 8 days a week with 5 weeks a month.
That is 560 days a year. But in my world that is perfect. It also allows me to map out religious holidays for races along with celebrations and festivals.
Now it does take a little getting use to. But luckily it is just fantasy.
Kodak used a similar system all the way up until computerisation in the 80s. The thirteenth month was called Sol. Apparently staff found it easier to track sales periods and deadlines because everything was much simpler to follow.
My favourite section of this show
Dave (either Dave the Gorman or Dave the Channel), would you consider having a subtitles option on the videos? There's the auto-caption button, but they don't recognise most words.
Personally I think we should just rename all the months as well.
First of all it's very confusing to keep the old names but move things around. It will probably cause a lot of misunderstandings and problems for a long time, I think it's easier for our brains to figure things out if it's just entirely new.
Second of all, I think it's an opportunity to change all these old names based on gods and latin numbers or whatever and make them more fun while we're at it.
(We should keep Gormanuary though, because it sounds stupid and funny)
About intermission, if it's two days long and there are no day of the week names, do we call it intermission 1 & 2? I think it's pretty funny if we call it intermission "part 1" and "part 2".
Anyway, it sounds like the perfect time to reflect on the last year and the upcoming year and set goals and prepare for the new year. As well as r&r and recharge for the new year.
Name one of the months Geldof.
Red dwarf reference.
It is Friday 27th Geldof.
27th would be a Friday as well.
I done this for my English GCSE speaking and listening exam. Thanks for all your help in my grade. Great man
"I done this"? Sounds like you need to revise a bit more.
@@ZT742 What's wrong with that?
@@aaronsjourney2544 "I did this" is the correct way.
@@ZT742 UTTER BS
@@aaronsjourney2544 Well done lad
Well I'm genuinely sold. I also like the 1st day of the year being the start of spring, feels much more appropriate and optimistic.
The Cesarean section joke went way over many peoples’ heads but is perhaps the most clever joke
Wow... and the new most clever joke is “we will nail Easter down” 😂😂😂😂
@@SilverTheFlame I didn't even think about that one at first! xD
What is the time stamp of that joke?
@@bigZitronenschalecaesarean: 1:54
Easter 7:07
“We will nail Easter down”.
Thanks for that - I am now blowing a stream of hot tea out of my nose 😂😂😂
you could have a calender with only one page and on top you have small whel under a cut-out or something and you can just rotate to next moth.
Exactly! This is clearly a much better system than our current one.
You'd still need all the pages if you write on it. Like an occasion 3 months form now you couldn't put on this month's and remember not to rub it off.
@@davids3539 That wasn't the point. It is wipe clean so that you can write on/wipe off, it would have 13 pages (and one non-page for the non-day of Intermission) but you don't need another calendar for next year as (eg) 17th Gormanuary will always be a Tuesday. We would need 14 calendars currently for the same capability.
I am so in favour of Intermission, sounds brilliant. Something to look forward to every single year.
7:08 that joke landed twice
No, the joke resurrected.
It makes perfect sense. They stuffed 13 months into 12, to make you work hard and give you back days that were aleady yours and call them vacation, like they are doing you a favor.
Also... start the year when spring starts in the northern hemisphere. It would make much more sense to start the year when a season starts rather than the middle of winter.
New beginnings!
First you need to agree when spring starts. Which varies...
@@chaos.corner well the day of equinox is what everybody uses, the 21st of march. It can vary by a day or so because of the 29th of feb, otherwise it varies only over very long periods of time
@@augustinf Check out the Wikipedia page for spring.
@@chaos.corner what do you mean wikipedia page for spring? It’s the equinox that starts spring, period, at least in France. It’s the most logical thing. Each season starts/ends with a solstice or an equinox.the solstices are inverted depending on the hemisphere and so are the seasons that s the only problem..
This is awesome! I would completely vote for this!
G E N I U S 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Delivered with so much wit and humour.
I've been thinking about this exact structuring of months for a while now. I think it makes waaayyyy more sense.
The only caveat is that I want to rename ALL the months. Because I want to apply the japanese naming of months which is
Ichigatsu, nigatsu, sangatsu etc... which translates literally to one month, two month, three month etc... or grammatically more acceptable for english speakers: month one, month two, month three etc...
That comes from Ancient China though, you’re describing the naming system of months in the lunar calendar that influenced the whole East Asia.
It's convenient that my birthday is actually November 5th. I shall forever remember February the 1st! 😂
What an incredible mind!!!
Very happy to stumble upon your comedy😊
All jokes aside, this is a serious calendar that has been proposed to replace the current Gregorian calendar (apart from naming the 13th month ‘Gormanuary’ anyway, lol). If you’re interested then you should check out the Wikipedia page ‘Calendar Reform’.
4:05 I have worked out the bank holidays (British)
New year: 2nd March (Monday)
May Day: 9th Quintilis (worked out by which day would be Monday between 1st and 7th May in the current system)
Late spring: 9th Sextilis (worked out by which day would be Monday between 25th and 31st May in the current system)
Late summer: 16th November (23rd October in Scotland and Northern Ireland) (worked out by which day would be Monday between 25th and 31st August in the current system (1st and 7th in Scotland and Northern Ireland))
Christmas Day: 23rd Gormanuary (Monday)
Boxing Day: 24th Gormanuary (Tuesday)
Easter Sunday could be either 1st, 8th, 15th, 22nd June or 1st Quintilis, making Good Friday on either 27 May, 6th, 13th, 20th or 27th June and Easter Monday on 2nd, 9th, 16th, 23rd June or 2nd Quintilis (worked out by which day would be Sunday between 22nd march and 25th April in the current system.
That would make the new year weekend really long.
You would get Saturday, intermission, Sunday, Bank Holiday Monday.
Some of the best telly was when Dave Gormen went around the world to find people with the same name as him.
My math teacher in my junior year of high school in February 1976 did a lot of these jokes when we had to figure out leap years and calendar reform.
Dave raises a very good point aside from the naming conventions but why don’t we use lunar months and a nice intermission.
My new life goal is to make this calendar the standard
Because we live in world of deception, most of our history is also a lie.
Genius level. You just made a lifetime fan!
As Chinese I never had problems, we just call month 1 as Jan, or weekday 1 instead of Monday. But we also had a lunar calendar which that is why i don’t know my parents’ nor my birthday every year
What happens if you are born on an intermission? :)
Intermission baby, like being born on feb 29th currently.
Since both days are called intermission in a leap year, they're just one double-length day that happens to have a night in the middle. So you get to have a birthday every year!
You stay in intermission.
Having a 2 day long birthday every 4 years does not sounds too bad actually.
We could do away with leap years altogether, and make the new last day of the year 6 hours longer, so we would have a 30 hr clock for one day.
Joking aside he'd have my vote on this.
I think a system like this would be great... 10 years after its implemented (imagine the chaos of the first few years)
Yeah I guess that would be right after the whole world completed the switch to metric!
You could also stick with 12 months, but have all be 30 days long. That gives us a sweet, long intermission of 5 days, like in the Egyptian or Zoroastrian calendar. Or, do like the modern Persian calendar: The first 6 months have 31 days and the 5 following months have 30 days. The last month has 29 days in normal years and 30 days in leap years.
28 divides into weeks though, do you propose 6 day weeks or something? What day would you erase?
This is so good. Also his Q&A was perfect. Were the questions staged because his responses were spot on 👌
Probably considering one of them worked out on the spot that every 13th day would be a Friday
@@jackuwIt’s not hard for most people to count to thirteen on their fingers. They easily could have figured that our while he was talking.
“The lady in the t-shirt” 😂
Wow, I never imagined to see a standup routine about alternatives to calendar!!
It is called the ‘World Calendar’, and was a serious proposal about 50-60 years ago, but fell down due to having to fit with the idea of a sabbath every 7 days for religious types, and the ‘world day’ is the extra day (what Gorman called intermission).
The reason 7,8,9,10 are wrong is that new year used to be march, but it got changed (1780s, if I recall).... there was a period where people would write dates as 1782/3 in Jan/Feb for the transition (I might have exact date wrong)
The World Calendar was a slightly different proposal with equal quarters. This one is closer to the International Fixed Calendar, I think.
@@nickbiss39 This one *is* the International Fixed Calendar (just with Gormanuary instead of Sol).
This video is the kinda content I wanna watch. Keep going! Subscribed and liked!
The bald guy in 3:56 looks stunned 😂😂
No way.
That means only 2/7 of the population get fun birthday days. Imagine always being stuck with a Monday birthday...
To hell with that! There is so much envy of Birthdays on Holidays already!
I just see it as a good reason to take the day off from work. That way monday birthdays are even better than saturday birthdays
You're assuming birthdays would be evenly distributed in the population, which I doubt would be the case, but might be, I suppose.
Right, because no-one has ever had their birthday on a weekday, but celebrated their birthday on the weekend...
@@jaylinsa still would need horrible.
Call me crazy. I like the variety.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with this at all. This would be badass.
I'd base my calendar on the sun. There's a clear and consistent pattern of solar declination that occurs with respect to the 20th/21st of each month. It's not perfectly aligned at the moment due to uneven months and precession. But with more even months and precession averaged out, the declination pattern is: 0°, 12°, 20°, solstice.
The calendar would start on March 1, which would be the equivalent of vernal equinox, which is March 20. You would quickly find this aligns very seamlessly with the seasons, even in the tropics where they have monsoonal seasons. As opposed to what's proposed in the video, which would for example convert July into more of a spring month.
Odd months get 30 days, even months get 31 days. (February would be 30 days except for leap years.) An advantage is if you're born on a weekday, you'll get to celebrate your birthday on the weekend occasionally.
Prior to the Druids changeing it, there was a 13 month cycle but they didn't call it a month, it was based on the moons 28 day cycle. Thus there use to be 13 signs in the zodiac, The one they eliminated was Ophiuchus.
Ophiucus never was a zodiac sign. Sorry. But yes the actual zodiac came from the constellations. (And yes the starting dates are wrongly set by the “seasonal” astrology)
I thought the Celts were Germanic tribes/peoples familiar with the word "maenoth" the origin of our "month" ?
I've been waiting for a reply for an hour now ,I cant wait a sixtieth more mate ,it was a good thing certain people were displaced because "see you in afew mins" might mean something completely different today .😂
I am totally on board with this man's pitch.
Intermission sounds so nice
The nailing Easter down joke is brilliant
Happy 50th birthday, Dave!
You're either 2 weeks late or 3 months early depending what system you're using!
When I learned calendar systems in college, this was exactly my thinking. Exactly exactly. Even with those "intermission" day or days, that are not called anyhow, they are just intermission.
🤣 great show! And the calendar actually sounds like a good idea... i do have to mention that since Julius caesar was the person who created the Roman calender, and put a lot of work into it, i think he can have a month named after him...
Augustus decided the length of the months
There should be a month named after pope Gregory as well
I absolutely LOVE this Guy!!
Intermission == Purge Day?
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There are standard financial reporting calendars that use 13 months of 4 weeks (and slip in one extra week in the last month every 5-7 years to realign for 364 days not matching 365 or 366). Retailers sometimes use that sort of calendar (to make sales figures more comparable year on year, although the other more common common financial reporting calendar divides the year into quarters, each with 2 months of 4 weeks and one of 5 weeks, again with one extra week slipped into the last quarter every 5-7 years to realign. This latter sort is often called a "454" calendar, although the week pattern is sometimes 544 or 445..
And of course revolutionary era France proposed some strange ideas for calendar reform.
why does this make so much sense and why aren't we working towards using this calendar system in future
There are nearer 12 than 13 lunar cycles in the year. These cycles lead to the formation of the months. But just because things are logical doesn't mean we're just going to use them. Otherwise we should lose the decimal system and go back to everything revolving around multiples of 12
@@wasshisface why doesn’t the decimal system make sense?
@@seanamh420 OK, not as much sense. It's not like it's nonsensical. But 10 divides only by itself, 1, 2 and 5. 12 divides by itself and 1 naturally too, but also by 3, 4 and 6. So the options for calculating and dividing are significantly higher and flexible.
On purpose.
Everything in this world is geared towards screwing you up!
@@wasshisface well in that case 60 would be much better choice thn...
This is the International fixed calendar invented in 1902 by Moses B. Cosworth. The alignment was thrown off when the Romans went from 10 to 12 months in 304BC, long before August and July were named. I don't believe in astrology but there is already a 13th zodiac sign named Ophiuchus.
Cotsworth revived it, Rev Hugh Jones invented it in 1745 as the Georgian Calendar.
I've always wondered why in the current calendar, 1 day each couldn't be taken from 2 of the 31-day months, say March & May, and given to February, so that February has 30 days. This would mean 7 months of 30 days (the current 4 plus Feb, March, May) and 5 months with 31 days (Jan, July, Aug, Oct & Dec). You could then have a referendum to decide which of the 30-day months gets the extra leap-year day.
Have a look at the Persian calendar, it got a lot of things right.
I've always thought the same! Why the hell the person who made the calendar decided to make february so much shorter than the other months while there are some with 31 days??? It just doesn't make any sense
I think that was the Romans again. Making February the shortest month because it was an unlucky month due to it containing so many rituals of the dead.
There's always a historical reason for why something is as it is. This particular calendar is the result of several reforms and "fixes" across centuries. It wasn't designed as the calendar we have today. The Persian calendar, which I keep mentioning, was also a reform of an older calendar, but they simplified it and made it more sensible. Some claim that when Pope Gregory commissioned a new calendar to replace the Julian, they did consider adopting the Persian calendar. But they didn't for obvious religious reasons. If only they had been more sensible, we would've used a much more sensible calendar today, and this video wouldn't exist. And I dare to say we'd still be Christian. The Hindu-Arabic numerals didn't make us Hindu or Arabic after all.
Love this guy.
The reason September, October, November, and December are 7,8,9, and 10 has nothing to do with Julius and Augustus, they renamed existing months(Quintilis, and Sextilis respectively), not added new ones.
The year used to start on the 15th of March prior to the Julian Calendar to coincide with the consulate first entering office(people would then count years of the consulates reign). The change to the 1st of January was done because Caesar was correcting for previous leap year miscalculations resulting in a 445 day long year and the shift of the start of the year to realign things, this also brought the start of the year the 1st of a month which made a lot more sense.
I should point out he corrected for leap years every 4 years, but that's not accurate and still resulted in the year starting in the wrong place, this was fixed with the Gregorian calendar about 1,600 years later, but the Julian calendar did drift a lot less than the previous 354 day calendar that didn't have leap years at all.
29th February happens every four years. The centuries are missed unless they divide by 400. This is why 2000 was a leap year. I have a work colleague who was born on 29th February 1992. I’ve warned him not to expect a birthday in 2100! 😜
Thank you for this. Also, you must be fun at parties... :)
Funnily enough, the Ancient Egyptians did something similar. They had a 360 day calendar with a 5 day party at the end of each year
Why have seven days in a week though? I've been advocating a similar but more comprehensive change for years.
One week is ten days, with the first, fifth and tenth days being rest days.
One month is three weeks.
One year is 12 months, with January and February at the end. Good addition.
Five or six days are holidays which are named but not numbered, to include one day each season, one additional late spring day, and a leap day. Other days can be bank holidays also, but these are still numbered.
And while we are at it, everyone works on the same clock too. Granted, that means Dolly Parton may have to sing "Working 2 to 10". NO seasonal changes either. Programmers everywhere will rejoice.
12 seconds in a minute.
3 minutes in an hour.
1760 hours in a day.
Weridly i had been thinking about this 28 day x13 months and a bonus day situation and this video popped up. Makes total sense.
If we're going this route, we ought to go all-in and rename the months to Latin numerals:
Unius, Secundus, Tertius, Quartus, Quintilis, Sextilis, September, October, November, December, Undecember, Dudecember and Tridecember
Dudecember sounds like the coolest month! 😎
@@aghastlyghost It's not Dudecember, it's Duodecember. Du-O-December
@@XoIoRouge Ah, the beauty of typos...
@Zwenk Wiel But Latin is fancy
Dude december.
Even though I think your idea is brilliant, I have another suggestion.
I think we should abolish the use of months completely and just use the day of the year.
For example the first of January of 2021 should be "2021001".
Use 4 digits for the year and 3 digits for the day.
The digits for the day would go from 001 to 365 or 366.
There are several advantages to this system:
1. Any date in the past can be easily converted to the new system.
2. The number of days between 2 dates in the same year is easily obtained by a simple subtraction.
3. The new system is independent of any political or religious themes (well, except for the year...). So the new system can be used by any country in the world, independent of politics, religion or culture.
Remembering that the calendar used in the west is the Gregorian calendar and it was proposed by the Catholic church, and the months of July and August are direct references to Roman emperors. Many countries in the world are understandably reluctant to adopt a calendar that is based on different politics or religion.
4. Any calendar in the world can be converted to the new system easily. Japan, China, Iran and many other countries in the world have their own calendar, many of them may be incompatible with the Gregorian calendar.
5. You can still use weeks and the word "month" to refer to a group of 28 days or 4 weeks.
But words like "month" or "week" are just for convenience, the calendar itself should not make any reference to month or week.
I’ve often thought the 12 month calendar seems antiquated. 13 months of 28 days does make more sense, plus a leap month to compensate for the extra day
That's how it used to be. February being the last month of the year. That's why they took 1 day out of February when August wanted 31 days on his month (because ego) and the name of other months.
And there were other calendar systems. One of them consisted of 12 months with 30 days and a 5 day "intermission" which was a end of the year holiday.
It's important to have a 12 month year because you can divide the 4 seasons pretty evenly. How do you do it with a 13 month year?
Seasons are not that important since agriculture is not such a big part of our life right now, but it was back then and it is important for calendar purposes
Also, in this case, the days of week still varies, but it is a bit because of how the moon works. We divide weeks in 7 days because it is roughly the time the moon does each of it's phases. So for lunar calendars, it is important that weeks continues with no interruption
But, anyway, jokes aside, nice approach. Very clever to skip one day so you have a nice multiple of 7.
A few issues:
1. What about religions that keep one day a week as a holy day? Intermission would push it to a different day. The religions are based on a different calendar system, so wouldn't be able to accept "Intermission".
2. Why bother with months at all? Why not just make it day-of-year/year? So, today's date is 319/2020. Months are already meaningless, since a purely-solar calendar doesn't track the moon. Even simpler than your system.
This.
They're based on a different calendar, so they're on different days each year anyway. It makes no difference.
Well most modern Christians consider Sunday holy, so they can keep right on having their Sunday services. And for 7th-day Adventists, they can keep right on doing Saturday. (Shrug) Doesn't seem complicated to me.
@@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her Not exactly. Let's say the year (before intermission) ends on a Saturday. That means, the next day-intermission-is technically Sunday, so Christians would have services on intermission. Then, the next day, which becomes Sunday on the new calendar, would be treated like a Monday according to Christians since they just had services a day earlier. So, while it's _called_ Sunday on the new calendar, it won't be every seven days precisely, and will shift by one or two days due to intermission.
The Chinese just use their own calendar for anything related to religion or culture. For example, the Chinese Lunar New Year falls on a different date of the Gregorian calendar every year, and everyone is okay with that. I think the religions can just stick to each of their own calendars for their special days.
This is brilliant !! Hope they did consider this so we don't really have to messed up everything by remembering date + day..
Intermission can be the Purge.
Love this! Trying to figure out my birthday in this new world.
This is a good idea. But he's wrong about why the months don't line up with the numbers. Renaming Sextilis and Quintilis to august and july wouldn't (and didn't) mess up the rest of the calendar (How would that even make sense?). The change happened nearly a millennium before, according to Livy. Where before that March was the first month of the 10 month calendar. January and February were initially added to the end of the year to make a 12 month calendar. Then a few hundred years later, they were moved to first and second position, messing up the numbering
New year's day, in the Uk at least, was on March 25th (Lady Day) until 1752. In that year the Gregorian calendar was adopted in place of the original roman-designed Julian calendar, and New Year's Day was moved to January 1st.
In your explanation the months of January and February don't really move as such, it is really only the numbering that moves (i.e. the point when when we deem the year number to have incremented and the month number to reset to 1). If January and February are deemed to be the last months of the year then they followed a December which followed a November etc, and if they are the first months of a year they still followed a December which followed a November.
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That is comedic genius right there
Scott Flansburg already came up with this. He made "the Human Calculator Calendar"
Scott didn't come up with it. it was proposed in 1902.
I've actually theory-crafted this same system (albeit with fewer jokes). It is pretty nice to see it popularized.