Televes DiNova Boss Mix Amplified Outdoor HD TV Antenna
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- This is my review of the Televes DiNova Boss Mix VHF/UHF Outdoor TV Antenna. It runs about $80, comes with a built in amplifier, LTE filter, and output two TV sets. The antenna also claims to pick up reliably reception within 60 miles of the broadcast towers - much more honest compared to the false advertised 150 mile antennas you see. How well does it work?
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So many antennas on the market. Good thing we have RUclipsrs like Tyler reviewing all antennas. So we save time, money and buy a good antenna.
This antenna is unique and well done. I have no antennas, but like watching these videos.
@@common_c3nts I tested many antennas and satellite dishes. I worked 2 years as an antenna installer. It was an interesting job.
Great review. I bought a Televes DATBOSS Mix antenna in June, installed it in my attic, and am thrilled with the results. Well built.
I have a Televes mounted on my roof. Very happy with the performance and reception.
Hey friend, can you tell me which model you purchased and the conditions/distance from the towers you live? I’m ready to buy a televes ant, so thanks!!
@@1ronhall I had Dish Take down my DirecTV dish, install the Televes DigiNova Boss antenna in it's place and connect it to my Tablo. They did all that for $160. Great deal as far as I am concerned. My distance to towers ranges from 13 miles to 52 miles. The channels I watch are all less than 20 miles. And, all but PBS are in the same direction. Still pick up PBS though.
@@dabike thank you for your kind reply ....... I very much appreciate your comments
I also have a Televes antenna, but a bigger one, and I'm very satisfied with it. Perfect reception!
the review on the televes ellipse sold me and i wasn't disappointed, but the wife did say it was ugly, yet she was happy with all the new stations!!!
Thanks Tyler for another excellent video. I have already installed three of these Televes Dinova antennas and all my clients have been completely satisfied. They love it! So small, but yet so powerful. Cheers!
Roberto, it is a great solution when a good fit for the particular situation, no doubt.
@@jurysdoyler My main customers are banks. They do not like to see any big profile TV antennas on the roof. This will be the best antenna for condos!!
I bought one of these, based on this review. Very happy with the product
Thanks again for helping me out with this one Tyler! 🙌🏻
Thank you. Very informative and funny. Best of both worlds 👍
Thanks for this, Tyler. Getting pretty close to 100k subs!
And when he reaches that 100k, he will have earned it well. His channel is always active with new content so he has nowhere else to go but up for subs. I never miss a video Tyler. I love to stay informed on the latest tech on OTA.
I was going to buy this antenna last week but I was afraid to get it. I knew that Televes has a good reputation, but knew nothing about this particular antenna and frankly it was too good to be true. I checked your channel to see if you had reviewed it, you had not, so I decided to go the safe route and went with a RCA antenna you like and gets recommended for my area. When I saw today that you reviewed this model I immediately went to see if I could cancel my order on the other antenna but too late. The main reason I like this Televes is that it's so camouflaged I could get away with this as a roof mount in my neighborhood as no one around me has a roof mounted TV antenna and I cannot put an antenna in my attic since my roof is metal. I know that my RCA is just as good but this Televes is very slick . BTW good work on your channel.
Living in Europe, i can tell you that Televes is very well known for its excelente quality made by my Spanish neighbours :-)
Bought this antenna and it works great. Much better than many I have tested. Even picks up stations to the sides that I would not expect to get.
Please, what is the maximum effective range (practically) of these antenna?
Do youhave a discount code for this Antenna 😮😅😊
Hey Tyler, I took your advice and pulled the trigger on this model as you suggested. I have not yet received(pun) it. Reading the comments after the purchase is probably not the best path to follow. However I am pleased with the overwhelming positive accolades. Thanks again.
Great Video as Usual Antenna Man. Love You Videos and the background is not that bad. You and the content are what count. Thank You for your continued great work , videos , comparisons and advice. Ping Ding Bing... terrible antennas. Please continue to throw them against the wall.. I love that and it’s funny .. Thank You Tyler
I really have to thank you for all this great information. We got rid of cable recently and I went right out and bought a cheap flat tv antenna, the kind you don't recommend haha. We live in Boston, so there are quite a few strong channel signals. For the past month I've been watching your videos and paying attention, and I am learning a lot. Since we got rid of cable, I am not in a hurry, I know this will take some experimenting. I've tried 3 cheap antennas so far. I combined 2 cheap antennas (with a splitter that you don't recommend) and it's not much better. With the information you provide, though, I won't waste any more money and I'll know the right thing to do. So far I did everything wrong. You are providing a valuable service. Keep up the good work! and thanks again
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I have this antenna ! I love it ! My last one got 30 This one gets 48 ! Quality Product ! No bull shit ! MONEY WELL SPENT for a change !!!
I just "installed" this very antenna in my bedroom to test. 76 channels plus. I just aligned it in accordance to Tyler's recommendations and sitting on a couch. Thank you sir. Your very explicit personalized instructions have saved me a lot of money and heartache. Best $40.00 I ever spent. Next week she is going on the roof, but for now... it is awesome!
Thanks for the report and for signing up for my antenna recommendation service!
Where can I buy this antenna for $40?
@@wendyward2585 Hi Wendy, I misspoke. What I paid $40 for was for antennaman's personalized help aligning the antenna. My bad!
I have that antenna up in my attic, works very well!
I bought this antenna and mounted it on a mast only 15 feet above ground (all I could do) in North Macon, Ga. It reliably recievedcall market transmitters with +30db on all stations. I will be moving to central Florida with this antenna mounted at 30 feet. The transmitters are twice the distance but no real obstructions. I expect a great result.
An awesome video lot of great information as always thanks.👍👍👍
Great review. This would be perfect on an R/V with that low profile. Your last Televes antenna I had identified that as a best seller in Europe. I would see loads of them on roofs and it must work well to be so many installed. Impressed with that company too.
Brian, for an RV install there is a more specific model, OmniNova P/N 144481: www.televes.com/us/144481-omninova-boss-antenna.html
@@jurysdoyler I have also used the DiNova on a boat and it works great!! I am sure the OmniNova works even better, specially if you have broadcast towers from different areas.
Looks like a pretty solid antenna at an affordable price. If the internal electronics hold up over time this is a decent antenna with a small footprint.
Great review video as always. It's about time someone paid attention to this little antenna. I had Dish Network install an OTA antenna last summer and this is the one they installed. I had never heard of this brand before it was installed but, I have to say, I've been very pleased with it so far (one year in). We live in the north east so, sometimes, we can get hit with some extreme weather and, this little antenna has never dropped a signal. I have it connected directly to my FireTV Recast so I can record my OTA channels (an upgrade over the One by One flat panel interior antenna I was using when I first got the Recast) and it was the best decision I ever made. Once It was pointed at the towers (all roughly 20 - 30 miles away at the most) it's been pretty much "set it and forget it". It just works...and it works well!!!
Keep the great videos coming!!!
I didn't know Dish still supported OTA TV reception. All the plans I have seen force us to pay for the local channels.
I've got a Televes antenna that looks a lot like that but doesn't have the dipole off the sides. My house is about 7-10 miles from the towers in my area and it works great. If I had to buy another antenna, Televes would be at the top of my list!
I Love this guy ❗
I might just get this one. ThankYou
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This is one I went with for my HOA restricted house. I'm pretty close to the antennas, but the indoor rabbit ears were just too fussy. So far the results are good, I just have TV.
Now I'm waiting for a review of the bigger Televes! (Always looking for the best antenna for our reception-challenged cabin!)
I came across this one recently - www.avsforum.com/threads/televes-datboss-mix-lr-vs-the-winegard-8200u-ap-8700-preamp.3164959/#post-60031912
No 150 miles range claims? It doesn't look like a ray gun. That will never sell.
Tyler: “What is UHF and VHF?”
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Yep. And another one is the reminder of the difference between the RF channel and the virtual channel. Drives me crazy. I end up either muting or fast forwarding past those to get to the new information.
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@Fred Pinnix So do I. But, I do like that Tyler can say it a million times and not get bored. I’m surprised he hasn’t just edited in an old recording saying the same thing.
There's so much craziness in the world it's nice to sit down to hear that comforting story that never changes ❤️
Wow cool . You help me pick
Out antenna for my home I need one for my work shop . So i get just few station . It got to be better then what I’m using now .
Solid Signal is another company that sells this antenna. Solid Signal has more Televes RUclips videos that you can watch. With tax and shipping, Lowes' cost was $87. If you live in an area with no power outages, buy this antenna. This antenna did perform as Tyler stated.
Might you consider reviewing the Televes Bexia indoor antenna? It has the nifty TForce auto adjust amplifier and the ability to operate passively as well.
TForce seems like a true innovation.
You are a VERY SMART MAN. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom with us random stupid people. lol. I really do enjoy your videos. And I am learning A lot. Thank you.
Tyler I have a question. how do I find the distance between say Springfield Missouri in Viola Arkansas in air miles or as a crow flies so I can get proximity of the air mile distance? so I can get an idea of what kind of antenna I need. What website or place do I need to look at? Please.
I found it Tyler. Hurray. As you can tell I'm not very computer literate or cell phone literate. lol. Just a girl trying to learn.
Tyler,
I hope when you reach 100k subs. They send you a play button with rabbit ears. 😁
I have the "Bossa Nova" HD antenna. Is that the same? And I gave you a thumbs up (again) because It's funny when you do other voices. LOL, do some more.
Looks like a good antenna for the price. About half the price of the Clearstream Max V. I am about to do an outdoor setup. I am going with one of Danny Hodges ideas and use the 10 foot top rails for a chain link fence as a mast. My city ordinance says I can go 12 feet above my roof line.
I had Dish Network install this exact one on my roof a few years ago. I have been very satisfied with it picking up stations from Chicago with me out in the suburbs. At the time Dish only charged $99 for the antenna and installation.
How far from Chicago are you ?
I'm in Gurnee about half way between Chicago and Milwaukee. I'm considering this one.
@@dawnhansen7886 Bolingbrook. I was able to get CBS with this antenna. I was not able to with any indoor antenna.
@ⅰи∂ㄩㄅ360 the amplifier that comes with it does have another port to run another room to if you can do it yourself. The dish guy was nice and set up 2 rooms for me.
@@dawnhansen7886 also I think my channel scan picks up 89 channels!
@@AkaDoubleG The indoor part is actually the power source for the antenna amplifier.
That antenna was so camouflaged I couldnt even see it until you showed your tests... wow I gotta have one...
I think that's the goal!
@@AntennaMan I know of a lot of people painting the Dinovas the same color as the house for even further stealth.
@@jurysdoyler To paint the radome could be a bad idea. It may reduce the antenna gain, specially if the paint is metallic.
@@robertogalvez3865 Metallic is a big no-no of course, should have mentioned that, thanks. I like it as is myself, but have seen them painted many times. I guess if it doesn't affect the results for that particular customer it's fair game. I have an Ellipse these days, but used a Dinova for a long time and always got interesting questions about it. People don't seem to mind it and they are curious as to what's it for.
Looks like this would make a very nice attic antenna as well.
You can use any antenna in the attic.
Thanks for the review! I'm curious if this antenna can be mounted vertically on a pole and get the same reception? From the looks of the mounting plate on the back it looks like it can. Any help would be great. Thanks!
I had one of those back in the 80s that worked good had amplifier with it and pick up 90 miles wasn't to bad back then
The first version of the Dinova (it was called Diginova back then) was released in 2008. The current one is the fourth generation, as there have been a lot of improvements in the antenna and electronics over the years.
Nice video
when i worked for dish network they sell antenna's like this but it don't have the dipole configuration and when i installed it on a customers house i aimed it between 2 markets and he got them both with no problem i have this model and it works grate on the uhf stations we have a wbng 12 (rf ch8) it seems to have trouble with this where i am as i live in a valley but it works on the uhf better then the one you say is junk i had that for a while and i upgraded to this one and like it a whole lot better
I’ve had this antenna connected to my Dish Hopper and I’ve been for a couple years and I’m very happy with its performance.
That’s being said, I am getting ready to discontinue my satellite service in the next few weeks and I would like to connect this antenna to 5 TV’s in my house. Is it ok to use this antenna with Channel Master CM-3418 splitter /amplifier or should I split off from the amplifier it came with?
Very Interesting
i got this antenna in my attic work great I get 50 channels with this and not using the pre amp .good investment, (Broken Arrow ,OK)
Just got this professionally installed by DISH. Got a $50 discount for being Sling subscriber. all total $100
I like the Televes product line. Although the small antennas are very cool and very strong for their size I really like they're bigger antennas. I just got the Avant X. That is a very cool device.
Wow!! The Televes Avant X is a programmable multiband amplifier for terrestrial signals. You must have worked on a big project with many TV outlets.
@@robertogalvez3865 Here's some info for those curious: www.televes.com/us/532180-avant-x-programmable-multiband-amplifier-for-terrestrial-signals.html
@@jurysdoyler That thing is a beauty. It can mix and amplify VHF Low, VHF High, UHF (2 ea) and CATV! Now I have to find out how many TV outlets it can handle.
Cool, nice
I have one of these antennas and it works great. I am moving to a condo and may need to put it in a attic. I will be about two miles closer to the towers with the same direction as my present antenna.. Most towers will be within 20 to 40 miles with most within 25 miles. Do you think this will work as well in the attic.
Looks like a droid from Star Wars. Specifically a Medical Droid.
Should be noted the difference from (Low band VHF) and (High band vhf) and the antenna you are discussing looks to cover High band vhf and UHF. Maybe show a chart showing what tv channels are on what bands ? Many Thanks!
Hi Tyler, the Antenna Man! How does this antenna compare to the Clearstream 4V antenna? I've watched your videos on both, but have not seen a direct comparison. Can you please let me know? Thanks.
Hey Tyler,
On your spreadsheet comparisons I couldn't tell which was the Televes. The pictures looked like other antennas.
It was the other antennas. You have to look at the signal meter on the TV to see the results of the Televes antenna
thanks for all the info Tyler, after watching a number of your review videos, I think the Televes might be the one for me. I will have someone install this on either my trim or on an eave. I do have a question tho- the preamp will require electricity, yes? So, in addition to the cable running to antenna, I also have to have an outdoor powercord running to it as well? Doesnt that sort of negate the 'clean line, simplified design' look of the antenna? Not sure I want to look at powercord running up the side of my house... Can you explain more about that feature and what is required in the installation process. Thanks!
No need for an extra cable. The antenna includes a power supply that injects the power on the same coax that delivers your signal.
What combiner would I use if I had two of these pointed in different directions?
You sound like my mom!! I don't want that big antenna on the house! But its ok to pay $189 a month for cable?
Good grief.🤦
Excellent point Chris. Buy the biggest and the best unless you are too close to the broadcasting towers in your area.
Wow! you got a bargain.
189 dollars?? What a rip-off. I thought Americans where only screwed on cell phone rates. I pay around 40 dollars total for ftth tv, internet, lanline and cell.
@@ajg7917 Some people around here pay between 200 to 300 dollars a month and more for triple play with Comcast
The dipoles on this are longer than the Clearstream 2Max. The 2Max gets good UHF reception, but I don't always get both VHF stations in the DC market even though they are less than 10 miles away. I wonder if the longer dipoles the DINOVA BOSS MIX antenna would be an improvement.
Those telescopic elements will help you with VHF High only broadcast stations (channels 7-13).
Any chance we can see a review of a Televes DAT BOSS MIX LR? Really like what I saw from their Ellipse Antenna and this one and I'm curious how their fringe antenna performs vs the large Channel Master and Winegard.
I recently saw a thread from a guy that did some thorough testing with that model: www.avsforum.com/threads/televes-datboss-mix-lr-vs-the-winegard-8200u-ap-8700-preamp.3164959/#post-60031912
@@jurysdoyler Great info. Thanks a million! By the way, I have a DAT BOSS LR which I use for long range tests. My record so far is 220 km (136 miles) in passive mode, with broadcast towers at an altitude of 3,500 meters (LOS is so important!). Next record will be at 250 km (155 miles). Anything past that distance looks impossible due to the curvature of the earth. Cheers!!
Is this better then the clearstream 4 That's what I have now with channel master and it works OK but not clear on most channels
Tyler. Do you still do your test from your old location? Also I like the bypass and variable level features on the preamp.
I moved and can no longer test at that location. However I have a backlog of several antennas I tested when I was there that will be on the channel in the coming weeks
@@AntennaMan Understood. I was wondering because of your comparisons to previous testing.
One thing I was wondering is where does the coax cable go? Does it have a box to power the pre amp?
The cable gets connected right under under the antenna and goes to a power inserter with output to two TV sets.
@@AntennaMan O yes I can see it on the Amazon link with the power unit!
I was wondering the same thing.
I’d like to know more about that amplifier in regards to the way it dynamically adjusts based on signal strength. Is that specific to this manufacturer, or something that can be bought separately?
I understand only Televes has the technology at this time. They do sell separate mast amplifiers (preamplifier) online: Amazon, eBay, Solid Signal, etc.
Hi everyone. I’m getting several channels but locals like NBC and ABC are not getting picked up and those towers are only 15miles from me. Would a taller mast be a good starting point?
I was looking at ur Amazon page and I didn't see much indoor antenna and budget friendly but I saw this one and might look into use it in my apartment I was wonder is there any other you recommend that is a bit budget friendly thank and keep it up with ur great youtube
Budget friendly antennas are mostly junk. Don't bargain hunt when it comes to shopping for an antenna. You'll spend more on multiple junk models that don't work compared to one that does.
@@AntennaMan
Makes sense and thank you for the fast reply
This goes to show that size does not always matter at least with TV antennas
I read the built in pre amp is passive if unpowered. That's unique. I don't know of any pre amps that allow the signal to pass thru if the unit is unpowered. So I have to ask if you had a power inserter on the coax when you tested this antenna. Per Televes website this built in pre amp will adjust the gain according to the channel being received at the time. I can see this low profile design being adapted for RV use. The crank up antenna mast on the Winegard Sensar antenna would be ideal and the built in power inserter every RV has should work fine for this.
I tried it both with and without the preamp and it performed worse with the preamp on so I showed the signal test with the preamp off. I does have "powerless pass through" so if the power inserter is unplugged you still get reception.
When you tested this did you use a rotor or does it have a rotor built in? did you turn it to receive the stations in different areas?
It does not have a built in rotor. Antenna is rotated manually.
Can this wire up for 3 TV sets? I think you said there is 2 outlets. Is there something that can convert it to 3 outlets. I'm putting it in my attic and will have to get coax cable for each tv. t.i.a.
👍🏻 I use a bigger Televes DatBoss UHF/VHF antenna.
ⅰи∂ㄩㄅ360 Works perfect I got a one or two mountains in my way but it works perfect. I’m about 26 miles from all the broadcast stations antennas.
ⅰи∂ㄩㄅ360 over 50 channels
ⅰи∂ㄩㄅ360 yes
Hi Tyler, I was wondering what type of antenna would you recommend for Kingston NH 03848?
Go to his website and ante up his $20 consulting fee.
What about the diginova that looks the same but cost more?
Can it pull in UHF off the back end? If it can just 25 miles, it would be great and I could get by without a rotor
Amish Vaper No good UHF off the back. The Dinova is directional in UHF (60 degree beamwidth) and bidirectional in VHF High, so it’ll get VHF channels front and back, but UHF is very attenuated on the back.
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This antenna does not receive low band VHF signals. Can a Wineguard low band VHF kit be added to this antenna?
You can add it but I think it might mess up the power of the internal preamp on the Televes since you'd likely be using a combiner. Understand that most TV stations don't broadcast on the channel number you see on the TV station. You might not have low VHF channels in your market.
I got one of these installed by Dish TV. It worked fine for about four months, then the amplifier became intermittent, frequently blocking the signal almost entirely. I ended up unplugging the amp, because as Tyler noted there's a power-off passive bypass. The warranty on the antenna (and amplifier) is only 90 days. So now I'm stuck running it without the amp. I still get all the big stations, but most of the low-power stations are no longer receivable.
Strange. The power supply is supposed to last a long time. This might help:
www.ebay.com/itm/New-TELEVES-TV-ANTENNA-POWER-SUPPLY-2-OUTPUT-550104-/163855286998
@@robertogalvez3865 The power supply seems to be fine. It's the amplifier itself, up at the antenna, that's become intermittent. The obvious fix for that is to replace the antenna with a new one which would have a new amplifier. But the current antenna isn't even eight months old yet, it works okay unamplified for the full-power stations, and I'm not in a position to climb up and replace it myself so I'd have to find someone else to do it (which is why I had Dish TV install it in the first place).
Roberto Galvez There is 12VDC power inserter by Channel Master CM-3400XPIPS that is cheaper. It is plug and play for the Televes power inserter.
@@williamquemuel7824 Excellent economical solution. As long as you have 12 VDC going to the antenna the amplifier will work.
By the way, my Televes power source is connected to a voltage regulator to avoid any spikes. Cheeers!!
Roberto Galvez i also had mine connected to a power strip with surge protection.
Interesting...
Do you recommend this antenna?
I have watched several of your videos on comparing outdoor antennas and I'm still confused. You never tell what the best one is only the one not to buy. Do you have a preference? Or maybe what do you personally use?
There is no one that's the best as it depends on the frequencies and signal strength in a given area. There are other factors that contribute to what is the "best antenna" as well. This is why I offer custom antenna recommendations on my website at the link below: www.antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html
Great. Question, can I use this antenna as an indoor one instead? Also, does it make a difference if the station broadcasts in 720p or 1080i or the different polarizations?
Yes, you can use this or any antenna inside. It just won't work as well due to the building material weakening the signal. The picture size a the TV station uses does affect the reception.
Thanks for the info
Would an antenna such as this one, which seems better than my Clearstream 2Max and maybe even better than a 4Max still need a pre-amp to cover my 80 feet to my Tablo Quad/TV?
Very informative. Thanks.
It has a preamp built in so you don't want to add another preamp to it or you will over amplify the signals or not power the internal preamp.
Antenna Man Thanks
OK Tyler got some questions on the TELEVES Antenna. (1) Does the antenna need a rotor to pin point the antenna to the transmitter, or is it Omni directional? (2) What distance is it good for u said 60 miles. Is that all stations in 60 miles or the powerful ones. (3) Is this Spainish piece worthy of the money, or should we keep to the red, white and blue (American Made, by Americans). (4) Who would be potential customers? Most people doing small antennas like that usually get fed up of the 6 channels they get, because those antennas don't have the gain to reach markets farther then 60 miles. (5) Solid Signal has them for $89.95
I can try to field some of these. (1) The Dinova is directional in UHF (with about a 60 degree beam intended to be a bit more flexible for multi-direction applications) and bidirectional in VHF High (front and back reception) - (2) Distance ratings are very arguable because distance will depend on a lot of variables, from the transmitted power to the terrain to the elevation the antenna is installed at, probably the best answer to this is to say that the Dinova is a mid-gain antenna that will cover a number of moderate signal situations, it’s typically defined as a suburban antenna and when a range is mentioned it’s referred to as a 60 mile antenna, although we’ve seen plenty of cases of longer distances depending on the circumstances, the TForce built in amplifier will automatically adjust the levels according to the signal being received, and it has a large dynamic range that allows it to pull up weak signals w/o saturating on the stronger stations - (3) With regards to country of origin the precedence of the Dinova is Spain, where it has been designed, developed and entirely manufactured, not the US but closer than where most American brand antennas are made nowadays - (4) The target market for the Dinova are installations where a discreet antenna is desired, hence the radomized design, but w/o giving up quality or performance at the given form factor. I hope this helps.
Tyler, you said that the amp self adjust for weak signals. What does it do when multiple transmitter antennas are only a few fractions of a degree from each other? You want to pick up the weaker signal , but the amp reduces the gain because it see the stronger signal?
The TForce preamp automatically adjusts its gain parameters over time to compensate for changes in the signals being received, due to weather, transmission conditions, changes in foliage, just as examples. Without getting into technical details I'll mention that the MMIC at its core has a much larger dynamic range than a typical mast mounted amplifier which enables it to be able to handle different multiplexes with big power differences between them.
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Some may find this interesting: www.televes.com/us/532180-avant-x-programmable-multiband-amplifier-for-terrestrial-signals.html
6:55 the signal bouncing from 81% to 90% is troublesome. It indicates multi path interference or PRE AMP anomalies. I am against built in PRE AMPS just because. As you say a Pre Amp is for signal loss in long coaxial runs, but it does not get signals that the antenna is not picking up in the first place... IN FACT as you know Pre Amps can make it worse by amplifying noise. Digital TV (yes I know RF is RF, VHF/UHF, but analog is different) is very S/N ratio sensitive. I think this bounce is due to the PRE AMP.
You're able to use the antenna without the preamp plugged in. It has powerless pass thru
@@AntennaMan Right it is part of design and has no pass through. It would be nice if they offered an unamplified version. However it's designed with pre amp which is OK. The auto gain is interesting. Performance was very good regardless. Good work. Thank you.
Does this one need to be grounded since it has mainly a plastic case?
Yes all outdoor antennas have to be grounded. I have a video on the topic of grounding outdoor antennas. Check out my other videos.
Were you able to test this antenna's directionality? It's design suggests that it is optimized for one direction. Thanks for the coverage on a standout brand on the TV antenna market.
LIkewise, did you do a scan to see if any new stations could be received?
I don't test the directionality of antennas just the signals they're point at. Most antennas are optimized for on main direction usually with a gain pattern on a 45-180 degree span depending on how strong or weak the signals are.
@@AntennaMan I guess I'm too used to old0school Yagi or log-periodic antennas...
The Dinova has a UHF beam width of 60 degree, so it is directional but more forgiving than other antennas in the catalog, since it's intended for a wide range of mid range applications. On VHF High is bidirectional, so it'll receive stations from the back. The back of the antenna is where the big clamp is located, which actually doubles as a reflector.
@@jurysdoyler Do you work for the antenna manufacturer,You seem to know a lot about the products.
Looks like a good product hope you can try out the five star yaggie satellite antenna it's on Amazon for $49
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The word here that tells you it is 100% BS , is >>> satellite.
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Broadcast Tv with a Tv antenna is transmitted and
received with land based Tv transmitters and Tv antennas.
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Satellite Tv is from a satellite Tv transmitter 23,500 miles
above the equator and is received with a dish.
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The sellers of Scamtennas know that 99% of the
general population of Humans of this time period
on this Planet are completely stupid and will
believe anything.
@@genesky61 chill out it's just a name it's called a marketing ploy
Does Televes offer a triband antenna?
I have a station on RF Channel 5 in my area.
A couple models with low, high VHF and UHF capabilities are the PN 148281 and 148381
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I put the information else where here
for All Channel Televes antennas.
Can you review both the Televes 130581 Bexia Indoor Antenna & Televes Innova Boss Indoor Antenna? I can't use an outdoor one where I live. Seems like those are the only 2 models that company sells on Amazon.
I would love to have and test the Bexia indoor antenna but I find it overpriced for my wallet. By the way, who sells the Televes Innova in the States? I can't find it anywhere. I see it sells at a lower price vs the Bexia, overseas:
www.av-connection.com/?PGr=5673
Tyler, when I put the Bexia into an Amazon search, it shows nothing, so here is the link for the antenna: www.amazon.com/130581-Bexia-Performance-Automatically-Omnidirectional/dp/B07Y8V531C
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Here is the FCC website that says Yes you can
install antennas outside in plain sight.
www.fcc.gov/over-air-reception-devices-rule
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Even so , there are No indoor antennas or
antennas indoors that will produce and provide
perfect indoor reception.
The reason I say this is because many Humans
think some how by magic or something
they will find the perfect antenna.
Some day the Humans will find a way around
the laws of the physics , however not yet.
@@genesky61 Yes!! Know your rights. Some condo admin can be abusive or ignorant of the law!
i forget where you are, but do you not get 38 and 64 from Scranton?
No they have small towers to protect WPSG and WPPX which broadcast on the same frequencies they do.
Your introductory notes are useful for new viewers, but get old after a dozen times or so. How about putting a note at the beginning of the description, or even in the title saying something like:
"New content begins at (mm:ss) you can skip to there if you are familiar with the introduction"?
I think it's possible to create a link which will start the video at a specific time, but don't know how. Just a thought.
How does this antenna compare in performance to the Televes Datboss LR Mix?
This is a much smaller antenna and won't perform as well as the LR model if you're in a weak signal area
@@AntennaMan thank you. I've seen both of your videos where you reviewed each individually both being good antennas, but not directly compared with the same local channel results, so thanks again.
Hey Tyler
I just got this antenna yesterday, haven't put it up yet, but you're right on about the build quality. This thing is solid..! I have one question. What's the difference between the DiNova and the DigiNova versions..? I know the DigiNova is a bit larger, by inches, and is made in Spain. It's also about $25 more in price. I bought the DiNova, since I couldn't find the difference, and I'm cheap..!😆
No difference between the two
Tyler,
I finally got to put up my DiNova Boss Mix today. This antenna is well built, compared to my WDP antenna. The WDP antenna has been up for 8 years. The cheap plastic it's made from, was covered with black mold. Very faded, and top fin was sheared off.
Once installed, I scanned for channels. Surprisingly, I got a few more channels, but, those aren't worth watching. I also installed quad shielded wire. Not much difference in picture, but at least, I know this isn't going to fail as quick as the WDP antenna. And if it does, I'll still get reception..!
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Tyler you rock next time in Baltimore I'm gonna buy you a steak. Keep up the good videos
This TV antenna looks similar to the Winegard Sensar IV
You said this antenna has a pre-amp. How does it get powered for that? I think you said in the video you were going to talk more about it but you did not.
@John Crandall The Dinova ships with a UL listed low-consumption power supply that provides 12Vdc for the TForce amplifier inside of the antenna. Here's an application diagram of how this setup works: www.televes.com/pub/media/catalog/product/144282_apliA.svg
@@jurysdoyler Thanks, Javier; appreciate it.
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