love all the family's yt channels! also, the track you play that starts with the upright bass is really good! all you guys keep up the excellent work!🤠
I can't be the only fan that finds the "Playfield cleaning montage" music running through their head when they are working on projects. 😂 great job as always.
So uhhhhm I didn't want to jinx it by commenting over there but my mercy!!! The number of views your brother Donnie's "Used Mobile Home series" is blowing my damn mind!!! Congratulations on that!
@@JayProkofiev what??? That is blasphemous!!! That sounds like something someone who puts LEDs in a 1965 electro mechanical pinball would say! You know.... the kind that buy Picante sauce made in New York City!!! 😆😆😆😉
Hey, great channel from UK. Could you identify the pinball machine in the music video No Limits, by 2 Unlimited. The stage is a pinball machine and wondered if it was fiction or fact??? Great tutorials and commentary, keep up the great work, from the home of aviation. Cheers.
I’m wondering if those extra posts had spot lights on them ? I’ve had a couple of games with similar and in both cases they had spot lots that were removed . Maybe they were going to install at factory and decided to go a different direction.
So, with the backbox flipper you going to have to wax the backbox too? 🤔 Going to keep Joe extra extra busy on this one if you do. He already did a lot of work - these newer games have so much stuff to take apart just to get to the playfield and some of the rings too! Really nice though it's coming back to life and looking good! 😎
If you check the machine on the Internet Pinball Database I see one picture with a two dimensional basketball on the silver post next to the second blinking orange round light but I also see a picture without it.
I fully understand your views on the LEDs. For the stuff toward the back, the warmer look of incandescent would look better. Now, the stuff hidden under red lenses toward the front, you could get away with LEDs there since the light is filtered, and then you run into timing issues (LEDs are more responsive and jarring, and cut off faster). There's a workaround for some of the LED behavior, and I'm surprised I haven't heard of any manufactured like this. But a small electrolytic capacitor would fix the timing. I don't know what size, but maybe 1-10 mFd. To get into how LEDs differ takes some basic chemistry knowledge, and I'm no expert. Light is released when electrons are stimulated to move to the next ring. That increases the potential energy. Then when the stimulation is removed (or the potential outreaches the energy needed to sustain that), the energy is released as light. All artificial light works about the same at the core level. You are using energy to excite electrons. So you either heat a filament, burn something, ionize a gas, or apply electricity directly to a semiconductor junction. The process is different, but what happens at the molecular level is very similar. With incandescent, you are heating the filament with electricity. In an LED, the electricity itself is what excites the semiconductor material. That is about the fastest way, but you are not building as much potential energy. You have no reserve, so when you remove the electricity, it goes out right then. So putting a capacitor there can make the behavior seem more like an incandescent, since a capacitor has to take the time to charge and discharge, causing the light to start and stop later. The filament acts to heat what a capacitor does to electricity, adding latency to the light turning on and off. So overall, I get the objection to LEDs. When directly exposed or there is a clear or white filter, the warmer look looks better. There is more psychological attraction there. You even notice similar with street lamps. Mercury, fluorescent, and most LED tech don't look as nice as sodium lamps (that look closer to incandescent while still being bright). And when it is cool outside, you may feel warmer when looking at warmer-colored lights. Then, for faster-blinking things, incandescents are less jarring to the eyes and brain.
@@Jason-lx3zu -- That is a good idea. You'd think that the delay in charging and discharging would simulate a filament in terms of latency. In some applications, it is the color of incandescents that folks like, and in others, it is the reaction time or latency. This makes for softer attacks and decays and is less jarring.
@@PlumGurly As somebody who's rebuilt the driver circuit in a broken LED bulb I can 100% confirm that a large capacitor makes the response more incandescent-like. You miss out on the color shift when dimming but I don't think that really maters (and can be simulated with two LEDs and a tad more circuitry). In terms of color, good warm white LEDs look pretty darn close. Of course nearly all the drop-in replacements on the market seem to use the lowest-quality cool white LEDs they can find. In the end it's all about money. It would be trivial to make an LED bulb which is basically undetectable in terms of light output but it will probably cost a few dollars each. Pinball would probably be the largest market but who wants to spend hundreds on bulbs? Private owners will have the machine turned off so they'll never see power savings or increased longevity, operators will just use cheap LEDs because they're good enough.
Your flashers were working in the last video during your short gameplay at 34:45. Surprised they aren't running in attract mode though. Well at least the top right white was when you tried it.
@ 00:24:42 Second generation playing field. Under the basket the wire is routed through the playing field (black circle-ish). ✅ The more you know. 🌈🤗 First generation is routed through the shot clock and no hole.
I don't shop Amazon, haven't for many years for personal reasons, but thank you for helping support the channel. I look forward to new videos Ron and Joe! I haven't gone down the mybrotherdonnie rabbit hole yet, only so much free time! Have a nice weekend everyone.
Great work guys. …Personally I would NEVER use black rubbers on a pinball machine. …When you see the sticky black residue all over your playfield, why would you line up for more of the same??…. White rubbers look fresh and clean, and will keep your playfield much cleaner than black rubbers. I just 5hink they are a horrible choice. Same with the globes - long live incandescant bulbs….warm and wonderful.
love all the family's yt channels! also, the track you play that starts with the upright bass is really good! all you guys keep up the excellent work!🤠
I can't be the only fan that finds the "Playfield cleaning montage" music running through their head when they are working on projects. 😂 great job as always.
So uhhhhm I didn't want to jinx it by commenting over there but my mercy!!! The number of views your brother Donnie's "Used Mobile Home series" is blowing my damn mind!!! Congratulations on that!
Me too Shawn! LOL
Please, please, please... I can't take it any longer. Surely its time for a change to the playfield cleaning music.
@@JayProkofiev what??? That is blasphemous!!! That sounds like something someone who puts LEDs in a 1965 electro mechanical pinball would say! You know.... the kind that buy Picante sauce made in New York City!!! 😆😆😆😉
@@JayProkofiev no
Joe, nice work on the playfield. The BASKET was a CASE. 🏀🏀🏀
You snuck the screen repair in on us!!! Love the light show too! Have a great weekend everyone.
Looks like a fun machine. Looking forward to next repair.
I love this stuff! Very appropriate decal :)
You guys make that look so easy!
“Probably won’t be doing a severe cleaning” Joe - “Hit me up a timelapse & hold my Windex” Awesome job as always lads 👊
Ronnie doin heaven’s work
Another 5 star repair 👍enjoyed the video
I'd like to see you guys fix that miss universe machine in the background next. I think that'd be a cool one to see fixed.
One of these days we will but we have a lot we want to get to before that one
@@gmag1969
Pay them enough and it will promptly move to the front. 🤪
Really fun game, would love to have one
Ronnie I was worried I wasn't gonna get my "70s cop show investigation montage" theme song,but dang if it wasn't #4 in this playlist!
So *that's* what it's called! I've been looking everywhere.
Nice looking playfield 😎👍
Looking clean! Why does the shot clock only go down to 8* before resetting to 24?
I think it just does that because its in Attract mode, when you actually play it counts down normal
Hey, great channel from UK. Could you identify the pinball machine in the music video No Limits, by 2 Unlimited. The stage is a pinball machine and wondered if it was fiction or fact???
Great tutorials and commentary, keep up the great work, from the home of aviation.
Cheers.
I’m wondering if those extra posts had spot lights on them ? I’ve had a couple of games with similar and in both cases they had spot lots that were removed . Maybe they were going to install at factory and decided to go a different direction.
Was hoping to get this vid 🤣 YAY sexy Joe time LMAO
Lmao love that music, how could ya not get in a groove working to that. :-)
My bad, Sexy waxing scene with Joey mmmmmmmm xoxoxo lmao
So, with the backbox flipper you going to have to wax the backbox too? 🤔 Going to keep Joe extra extra busy on this one if you do. He already did a lot of work - these newer games have so much stuff to take apart just to get to the playfield and some of the rings too! Really nice though it's coming back to life and looking good! 😎
Hey Ron!!
Hey Jason!
Cool
I believe the coin door needs to be closed for the flashers to work. Safety switch because it on the high voltage side. Or I wrong and it’s broke
This
If you check the machine on the Internet Pinball Database I see one picture with a two dimensional basketball on the silver post next to the second blinking orange round light but I also see a picture without it.
I fully understand your views on the LEDs. For the stuff toward the back, the warmer look of incandescent would look better. Now, the stuff hidden under red lenses toward the front, you could get away with LEDs there since the light is filtered, and then you run into timing issues (LEDs are more responsive and jarring, and cut off faster).
There's a workaround for some of the LED behavior, and I'm surprised I haven't heard of any manufactured like this. But a small electrolytic capacitor would fix the timing. I don't know what size, but maybe 1-10 mFd.
To get into how LEDs differ takes some basic chemistry knowledge, and I'm no expert. Light is released when electrons are stimulated to move to the next ring. That increases the potential energy. Then when the stimulation is removed (or the potential outreaches the energy needed to sustain that), the energy is released as light. All artificial light works about the same at the core level. You are using energy to excite electrons. So you either heat a filament, burn something, ionize a gas, or apply electricity directly to a semiconductor junction. The process is different, but what happens at the molecular level is very similar. With incandescent, you are heating the filament with electricity. In an LED, the electricity itself is what excites the semiconductor material. That is about the fastest way, but you are not building as much potential energy. You have no reserve, so when you remove the electricity, it goes out right then. So putting a capacitor there can make the behavior seem more like an incandescent, since a capacitor has to take the time to charge and discharge, causing the light to start and stop later. The filament acts to heat what a capacitor does to electricity, adding latency to the light turning on and off.
So overall, I get the objection to LEDs. When directly exposed or there is a clear or white filter, the warmer look looks better. There is more psychological attraction there. You even notice similar with street lamps. Mercury, fluorescent, and most LED tech don't look as nice as sodium lamps (that look closer to incandescent while still being bright). And when it is cool outside, you may feel warmer when looking at warmer-colored lights. Then, for faster-blinking things, incandescents are less jarring to the eyes and brain.
Thumbs up just for the time to post all that, would be interesting to experiment with different value caps and see what difference there is, if any
@@Jason-lx3zu -- That is a good idea. You'd think that the delay in charging and discharging would simulate a filament in terms of latency.
In some applications, it is the color of incandescents that folks like, and in others, it is the reaction time or latency. This makes for softer attacks and decays and is less jarring.
@@PlumGurly As somebody who's rebuilt the driver circuit in a broken LED bulb I can 100% confirm that a large capacitor makes the response more incandescent-like. You miss out on the color shift when dimming but I don't think that really maters (and can be simulated with two LEDs and a tad more circuitry).
In terms of color, good warm white LEDs look pretty darn close. Of course nearly all the drop-in replacements on the market seem to use the lowest-quality cool white LEDs they can find.
In the end it's all about money. It would be trivial to make an LED bulb which is basically undetectable in terms of light output but it will probably cost a few dollars each. Pinball would probably be the largest market but who wants to spend hundreds on bulbs? Private owners will have the machine turned off so they'll never see power savings or increased longevity, operators will just use cheap LEDs because they're good enough.
Your flashers were working in the last video during your short gameplay at 34:45. Surprised they aren't running in attract mode though. Well at least the top right white was when you tried it.
Seems to me like the shot clock is counting down a little fast
@ 00:24:42
Second generation playing field.
Under the basket the wire is routed through the playing field (black circle-ish). ✅
The more you know. 🌈🤗
First generation is routed through the shot clock and no hole.
Oprah day?
Everyone gets a ♥️? 🤪
Love the music. I clicked your link for amazon and ordered some stuff, did it work? I'm in the UK if that helps. Thanks!
Yes It did work, Thanks!
@@LyonsArcade Woooooohoooooo! I'm so pleased 😁
I don't shop Amazon, haven't for many years for personal reasons, but thank you for helping support the channel. I look forward to new videos Ron and Joe! I haven't gone down the mybrotherdonnie rabbit hole yet, only so much free time! Have a nice weekend everyone.
@@Jason-lx3zuThank you 🙂. I only tend to use it because I live in a village and the shops are too far away.
Your repair music is so fonkey!
really impressive. i cant imagine how you keep track of all the screws and bolts.
That is the art of pinball restoration!
Great work guys. …Personally I would NEVER use black rubbers on a pinball machine. …When you see the sticky black residue all over your playfield, why would you line up for more of the same??…. White rubbers look fresh and clean, and will keep your playfield much cleaner than black rubbers. I just 5hink they are a horrible choice. Same with the globes - long live incandescant bulbs….warm and wonderful.
Evening
👍👍👍😎☕
Was benutzt du für einen Reiniger?
Windex
you forgot to put the rubber back around the wire form up by the basket to protect the wire
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Hello Lil Everette!