I lived three streets away from Fish in Aylesbury, he was a genuine nice fellow. The town was right behind this band and they had built a following before this album. Their fan club was called The Web long before the internet was invented. All of these guys lived close and were very approachable. It was excellent to see this band take off where they belonged.
For all their brilliance they are still effectively a one hit wonder band! most average people on the street couldn’t name more than KAYLEIGH if you asked them to name songs that they have released.
A superb album. My brother played that record till it wore out. I always thought they were 'Genesis Lite' when I was younger, but how wrong I was. They are a brilliant band in their own right, and this album is an absolute classic.
I was in 1st year of college and struggling with youth and adulthood. “Misplaced Childhood” and “Quadrophenia” were the two albums that captured so much of my emotional state between 17-20. This typical rock star story of the album does not take away from the reality of what this album and title song means to me and others who struggled into adulthood raging at lost childhoods and depression. One of the greatest albums ever.🌻
my half brother used to be a big fan of marillion. since he died 2 years ago, i am listening to marillion very often and now i understand, why he was such a big fan of this music. marillions music makes me feel close to him and i remember of him singing their songs. the album misplaced childhood is a masterpiece but i guess script for a jesters tear is a little bit better (my honest opinion)! ❤ R.I.P. old brother, I love you!❤
@Thirdfish yeah, I reckon Fugazi just edges Script. Misplaced Childhood is better known because of Kayleigh, although Clutching at Straws was Fish's favourite.
I wonder who that was singing on the Clutching at Straw tour when I saw them in 87 and 88? An imposter? And whilst Fish’s antics are legendary, the real reason Fish left was their manager tried to steer them into a more pop direction to get more success. Something Fish didn’t actually agree with.
Exactly... Some of this commentary on this video is rubbish.. and repeats itself... Ive loved Marillion since market square heroes in 78.. But i read Their interview in Kerrang magazine in 88.. and it was that after Misplaced Childhood tour.. The band wanted a break from each other due to Fish's behaviour and ego singing over everything on tour.. but EMI money moguls and manager John Arnison forced them back into the studio for half finished Misplaced Childhood pt 2, which they changed to Clutching at straws and to churn out more pop and misplaced childhood music.. The band ended up hating fish because he wouldn't allow the music to flow.. , causing studio fighting where rothery actually left.. but did come back in the end to finish it.. and they split.. Hogarth is good, but its sad how the fish era ended.. Same as always.. Greed and money
The mangager was taking all the money, they would have broken up if he hadn't left and the band seemed happy that they weren't getting any money - odd really. Fish has explained this on his Friday shows.
@@NightOrchids I recall that they re-recorded CAS as Fish wasn’t happy with the lyrics. I went to a fan club gig at the end of 86 where they played some of the new songs; White Russian, sugar Mice and Incommunicado. The lyrics were very different to those on the album. They did release the originals on the deluxe CAS.
It's a great album, but certainly Script for Jesters Tear has to be regarded as better....there's not a weak song on the whole album, which is pretty unheard of in the Music Industry
Fish was still with the band for Clutching at Straws, they released the album and went on tour, their final tour with Fish in the line-up. They announced that the tour would be their last with Fish during the tour.
Not quite right! The Clutching Tour ended in December 1987. From then on, work on the new album began. There were two more concerts in the summer of 1988. The “FDJ Peace Concert” (June 88) in Berlin in front of 120,000 spectators and the last in St. Andrews, Scotland (July 88). Only then did the gap widen and in August 1988 Fish announced his departure. His first solo album and Marillion's first with Hogarth were similar in style to the "Marllion" albums. As time passed, neither Fish nor Marillion managed to return to the old days.
@@FGZKlunk It is not surprising that two more concerts were played together (1988) and they are still working on the fifth album together. If I “quit” and said so… then it’s over. What should this statement mean? I believe in the version that a rift arose in the course of 1988 - finally...
@@FGZKlunk I saw Marilion in December 1987. There was no announcement that the band was breaking up... What could that have been? With the friendly music and Fish's mood...no... Was also a member of the fan club in Germany, which surprised everyone... I'd have to look at what was in the fanzines from spring 1988... definitely no resolution... Then we would have been prepared - until the summer of 1988 nobody was Maybe something about disagreements... There was no internet back then...only music magazines or well-connected fan clubs with fanzines.
I love Marillion and particularly “Misplaced Childhood” is an album I know by heart and it was for ME one of the greatest albums ever. BUT it wasn’t as big for the world as this video intends to portray. Sadly…
Such a great review, when MC was released I played it constantly, had copies on vinyl, tape, and CD . I wish Marillion with Fish could have stayed together for a 5th studio album, a brilliant band, every musician a genius, thank you .
1989 The band's history is generally regarded in two distinct eras, separated by the departure of original lead singer Fish in late 1988 and the arrival of his replacement Steve Hogarth in early 1989.
It was Fish who sang on Clutching at Straws, so the video statement that "By the time the Band started work on their follow-up, album Clutching at Straws - Fish was gone" is a bit misleading. I would agree that some of the later Marillion songs were good too - Easter being a personal favourite.
I feel the same way about “Eastern.” The discography was only completed until the 2000s. Some kind of "prog" crap was released every year and this arrogance on stage... Actually from everyone...not just Hoghart... They're very imaginative!
singer Fish Clutching at Straws is the fourth studio album by the British neo-prog band Marillion, released on June 22, 1987. It was the last album with lead singer Fish, who left the band in 1988, and is a concept album.
Yes. Thank-you. I just want to add that Clutching at Straws is just as powerful an album as Misplaced Childhood, maybe even more so considering the circumstances.
"By the time they started on 'Clutching at Straws, fish was gone..." So... who do you think sang on Clutching? When What little I know contradicts your facts, it makes me suspect the validity of the rest. That and you not being able to tell the difference between Fish and Hogarth. Fish left pretty far into the making of Clutching, hence the 6-7 half finished tracks on the deluxe editions, parts of which appear on Internal Exile and Seasons End.
The narrator is wrong about when Fish left. He left after Clutching at Straws was completed, in 1988 ... All the vocals on Clutching at Straws are still sung by him.
I actually think this album is MUCH more optimistic than the previous three, especially the ending of "Childhoods End?"/"White Feather". And it's CERTAINLY not as dark as the downer "Clutching at Straws" is from start to finish.
Misplaced introduced me to Marillion and Prog-Rock in general, and I'll be forever grateful for that. But out of the 4 studio albums from Marillion (with Fish), Misplaced Childhood is IMHO the weakest (still love it, don't get me wrong!) and also not at all dark.
Some inacuracies: fish did wrote only the lyrics and the vocal melodies. All the music has been written by the rest of the band. Besides, you are showing some imatges of Fish with his band outsied Marillion after he quit
I was born in 86' in Germany and grew up with Marillion. My German mother was married to a British soldier. If my mum wasn't blasting Marillion, it was Abba or Pur 😂
I hate how the "Fish Is Marillion" crowd always trashes Steve Hogarth and his era. Personally I love what both of these front men brought to Marillion! Yes, I fell out of my chair when Fish left but the first time I heard "Season's End", I thought...hey this Steve H can really sing. It was different but definitely quite good. I doubt Marillion would still be pumping out masterpieces, if Fish was still the singer. I embraced Steve Hogarth long ago and enjoy the dark, gloomy, musical journeys they still take me on.
If Hoghart had continued like he did with “Season’s End,” he would have won me over. After “Holidays in Eden” it was over! 6 years ago I was at a Marillion concert... the most boring and arrogant thing I've ever heard from Marillion with the "nice" Hoghart. Never this band again... I can hardly stand even the Marllion members' solo projects...
Listen, Rangus, the pictures are not era-correct... But still I appreciate your work Rangus. And I love you. And I honor our love, and we shall honor this comment section.
Wow, this is so AI generated. Voice is AI, phrasing of the voice is robotic. And then showing still pictures of Marillion with H while talking about fish.
Fish should have stayed with Marillion. He's never been a relevance in ProgRock since. His solo efforts are weak for the most part but both Marillion and Fish have been tossed aside for my current and future listening.
I see what you did there - took a few grains of truth from stuff that Fish and the band have already said, put your own sensationalist spin on it and cobbled it all together with footage of musicians that were nothing to do with the original album at all 👍🏻 quality 😂😂 definitely a “Clutching at Straws “ production - which was also an album by Fish by the way 🤣
Let’s be honest MARILLION are effectively a “one hit wonder” band with KAYLEIGH,it’s a great song admittedly but you ask 100 average people off the street that’s arnt diehard fans of there’s to name as many MARILLION songs as they can,I’d put money on it that probably 95 of them could only say KAYLEIGH and a few more maybe at a push could name LAVENDER,hence why they are one hit wonders,I use the “100 people off the street” analogy to always work out how many hit wonder a particular band/singer is.
Since Marillion only made four albums with Fish and reduced them to just Micplaced. Marillion seems to have understood little about Fish. Kayleigh isn't even the best song on this album. Just the usual stuff released and well promoted thanks to the record company. This was even less successful with Clutching Straws. The pearls of Marillion and Fish lie somewhere else. Marillion with Hoghart is dead for this kind of thing. I like Neoprog and other variations. Hoghart's Marillion doesn't fit into any of my ideas about progressive music. They live only by name.
@@tobiasmuth2372 misplaced childhood is a great album but for whatever reason they are only known for KAYLEIGH by the majority of people. It’s the same story with the heavy metal band EXTREME,they are only known for the acoustic ballad “more than words”
@@garethwilby4033 For me there is a little fun fact. I saw the singer Gary Cherone from Extreme in 1992 as a successor (of course he doesn't exist) for Freddie Mercury. His performance at the Tribute Concert for Freddie was outstanding... This made me even more sorry that he and Queen didn't get together... Back to Marillion - Kayleigh was well advertised. EMI just wanted to see money...
I lived three streets away from Fish in Aylesbury, he was a genuine nice fellow. The town was right behind this band and they had built a following before this album. Their fan club was called The Web long before the internet was invented. All of these guys lived close and were very approachable. It was excellent to see this band take off where they belonged.
This makes me happy
My favorite as A kid.
My favorite as an adult
“Fish and the band…”. Cue shot of Steve Hogarth and the band…😅
…and numerous shots of Fish’s band from his solo career (NOT Marillion)
At 0:57, yes I was about to write the same…
Lol
Beat me to it…
yeah, 1 minute into this and I'm rolling my eyes. Behind the music, definitely behind.
I agree. The WHO gets all the credit for Pinball Wizard but I say Misplaced Childhood is the greatest rock anthem ever made.
Comparing a song to an entire album?
@@stvbrsn - Misplaced Childhood is not a song. It an entire album that tells a story from beginning to end.
You're confusing "Rock Opera" with "Rock anthem" which is a single song.
@@WokeBegone Nobody cares
@@stuffhappens5681Lamb lies down > all
Clutching at Straws was also amazing. The Hogarth years had some great music as well, but never to the heights of the Fish led time.
I don't know what it is but I just can't listen to any Hogarth Marillion. I've tried but his voice is bad on my discerning ears!
@vincentsimon4037 I've never listened to them with hogarth so i can't really say anything about his singing,only that he's not fish.
Brave is a fantastic album. I dont mind his singing, its the lyrics that drop down a level, but they also dropped down a level with Fish's solo stuff.
@@Onthecouch-r5r You lucky bastard. you get to have all that new music to listen to.
It’s definitely one of the best Prog Rock records ever. Brilliant from start to finish.
I only JUST HEARD IT, and I'm STUNNED.
For all their brilliance they are still effectively a one hit wonder band! most average people on the street couldn’t name more than KAYLEIGH if you asked them to name songs that they have released.
A superb album. My brother played that record till it wore out. I always thought they were 'Genesis Lite' when I was younger, but how wrong I was. They are a brilliant band in their own right, and this album is an absolute classic.
Could not have said it any different! Same here! Played ALL the time!!!!
I didn't know Genesis back then. Always heard Marillion followed in their footsteps. Listened to Genesis. once.
Noted the current tense, they still ARE a GREAT band, I love their live versions of Neverland and The Great Escape particularly.
This is what happens when AI is used to make a story.
I was in 1st year of college and struggling with youth and adulthood. “Misplaced Childhood” and “Quadrophenia” were the two albums that captured so much of my emotional state between 17-20. This typical rock star story of the album does not take away from the reality of what this album and title song means to me and others who struggled into adulthood raging at lost childhoods and depression. One of the greatest albums ever.🌻
my half brother used to be a big fan of marillion. since he died 2 years ago, i am listening to marillion very often and now i understand, why he was such a big fan of this music. marillions music makes me feel close to him and i remember of him singing their songs. the album misplaced childhood is a masterpiece but i guess script for a jesters tear is a little bit better (my honest opinion)!
❤ R.I.P. old brother, I love you!❤
Fugazi is their best IMO.
Sorry for your loss mate.
@@Thirdfish Thanks mate! Every Album is awesome in its own way! Totally agree that Fugazi is a masterpiece! Cheers Buddy
@Thirdfish yeah, I reckon Fugazi just edges Script. Misplaced Childhood is better known because of Kayleigh, although Clutching at Straws was Fish's favourite.
Fugazi is my favourite album by the band. I really wish I could get into the stuff the Hogarth stuff .
I cannot believe I never heard this until NOW. Thank you to JOHN MITCHELL for mentioning this on Facebook... THIS MUSIC IS INCREDIBLE!!!!!
I wonder who that was singing on the Clutching at Straw tour when I saw them in 87 and 88? An imposter? And whilst Fish’s antics are legendary, the real reason Fish left was their manager tried to steer them into a more pop direction to get more success. Something Fish didn’t actually agree with.
Exactly!
Exactly... Some of this commentary on this video is rubbish.. and repeats itself... Ive loved Marillion since market square heroes in 78.. But i read Their interview in Kerrang magazine in 88.. and it was that after Misplaced Childhood tour.. The band wanted a break from each other due to Fish's behaviour and ego singing over everything on tour.. but EMI money moguls and manager John Arnison forced them back into the studio for half finished Misplaced Childhood pt 2, which they changed to Clutching at straws and to churn out more pop and misplaced childhood music.. The band ended up hating fish because he wouldn't allow the music to flow.. , causing studio fighting where rothery actually left.. but did come back in the end to finish it.. and they split.. Hogarth is good, but its sad how the fish era ended.. Same as always.. Greed and money
@@NightOrchids Absolutely agree. I don't mind Hogarth and he's good, but sadly for me that's not Marillion anymore.
The mangager was taking all the money, they would have broken up if he hadn't left and the band seemed happy that they weren't getting any money - odd really. Fish has explained this on his Friday shows.
@@NightOrchids I recall that they re-recorded CAS as Fish wasn’t happy with the lyrics. I went to a fan club gig at the end of 86 where they played some of the new songs; White Russian, sugar Mice and Incommunicado. The lyrics were very different to those on the album. They did release the originals on the deluxe CAS.
My favourite line up 😊with fish ofcourse .
Absolutely superb album bought it in 85 saw them later that year absolute quality
It's a great album, but certainly Script for Jesters Tear has to be regarded as better....there's not a weak song on the whole album, which is pretty unheard of in the Music Industry
@DM-ei6ooThey opened Rush?! What a combo. Rush really did play with almost everybody.
Fish was still with the band for Clutching at Straws, they released the album and went on tour, their final tour with Fish in the line-up. They announced that the tour would be their last with Fish during the tour.
Not quite right! The Clutching Tour ended in December 1987.
From then on, work on the new album began. There were two more concerts in the summer of 1988. The “FDJ Peace Concert” (June 88) in Berlin in front of 120,000 spectators and the last in St. Andrews, Scotland (July 88). Only then did the gap widen and in August 1988 Fish announced his departure.
His first solo album and Marillion's first with Hogarth were similar in style to the "Marllion" albums.
As time passed, neither Fish nor Marillion managed to return to the old days.
@@tobiasmuth2372 I saw them at Wembley Arena in November 1987 and it had already been announced that Fish was leaving after the tour.
@@FGZKlunk It is not surprising that two more concerts were played together (1988) and they are still working on the fifth album together.
If I “quit” and said so… then it’s over.
What should this statement mean?
I believe in the version that a rift arose in the course of 1988 - finally...
@@FGZKlunk I saw Marilion in December 1987. There was no announcement that the band was breaking up... What could that have been?
With the friendly music and Fish's mood...no... Was also a member of the fan club in Germany, which surprised everyone...
I'd have to look at what was in the fanzines from spring 1988... definitely no resolution... Then we would have been prepared - until the summer of 1988 nobody was
Maybe something about disagreements... There was no internet back then...only music magazines or well-connected fan clubs with fanzines.
I love Marillion and particularly “Misplaced Childhood” is an album I know by heart and it was for ME one of the greatest albums ever. BUT it wasn’t as big for the world as this video intends to portray. Sadly…
100% agreed!
Misplaced Childhood is my favorite album of all time!
Such a great review, when MC was released I played it constantly, had copies on vinyl, tape, and CD . I wish Marillion with Fish could have stayed together for a 5th studio album, a brilliant band, every musician a genius, thank you .
1989
The band's history is generally regarded in two distinct eras, separated by the departure of original lead singer Fish in late 1988 and the arrival of his replacement Steve Hogarth in early 1989.
It was Fish who sang on Clutching at Straws, so the video statement that "By the time the Band started work on their follow-up, album Clutching at Straws - Fish was gone" is a bit misleading. I would agree that some of the later Marillion songs were good too - Easter being a personal favourite.
I feel the same way about “Eastern.” The discography was only completed until the 2000s.
Some kind of "prog" crap was released every year and this arrogance on stage...
Actually from everyone...not just Hoghart... They're very imaginative!
Total masterpiece.
Wonderful album!
singer Fish
Clutching at Straws is the fourth studio album by the British neo-prog band Marillion, released on June 22, 1987. It was the last album with lead singer Fish, who left the band in 1988, and is a concept album.
Yes. Thank-you. I just want to add that Clutching at Straws is just as powerful an album as Misplaced Childhood, maybe even more so considering the circumstances.
@@disengage5147 Has always been my favourite too
Most definitely NOT Marillions darkest album. That is probably 'Brave'
F.E.A.R. is also up there
@@JesperHellvikAgree with both!
Agreed!!
Came here to say this
With Fish I would say Clutching at Straws.
"By the time they started on 'Clutching at Straws, fish was gone..." So... who do you think sang on Clutching? When What little I know contradicts your facts, it makes me suspect the validity of the rest. That and you not being able to tell the difference between Fish and Hogarth. Fish left pretty far into the making of Clutching, hence the 6-7 half finished tracks on the deluxe editions, parts of which appear on Internal Exile and Seasons End.
Exactly, this channel is so off on this subject
yeah that was the most blatantly incorrect thing in this video among others.
The narrator is wrong about when Fish left. He left after Clutching at Straws was completed, in 1988 ... All the vocals on Clutching at Straws are still sung by him.
FANTASTIC ALBUM!!
❤🤘
I actually think this album is MUCH more optimistic than the previous three, especially the ending of "Childhoods End?"/"White Feather". And it's CERTAINLY not as dark as the downer "Clutching at Straws" is from start to finish.
I saw them at Sheffield in 82..cool.😊😊
A lot of information is totally incorrect
Misplaced introduced me to Marillion and Prog-Rock in general, and I'll be forever grateful for that.
But out of the 4 studio albums from Marillion (with Fish), Misplaced Childhood is IMHO the weakest (still love it, don't get me wrong!) and also not at all dark.
Pretty crap research when you talk about Misplace Childhood and Fish..yet at 58 seconds in you see the current line up...
This video stated that Fish was gone when Clutching at Straws was begun, but he provided the vocals? Not sure that is accurate.
This was the best Album ever....
Some inacuracies: fish did wrote only the lyrics and the vocal melodies. All the music has been written by the rest of the band. Besides, you are showing some imatges of Fish with his band outsied Marillion after he quit
The darkest album? Not even close. A good album? Definitely.
I was born in 86' in Germany and grew up with Marillion. My German mother was married to a British soldier. If my mum wasn't blasting Marillion, it was Abba or Pur 😂
I hate how the "Fish Is Marillion" crowd always trashes Steve Hogarth and his era. Personally I love what both of these front men brought to Marillion! Yes, I fell out of my chair when Fish left but the first time I heard "Season's End", I thought...hey this Steve H can really sing. It was different but definitely quite good. I doubt Marillion would still be pumping out masterpieces, if Fish was still the singer. I embraced Steve Hogarth long ago and enjoy the dark, gloomy, musical journeys they still take me on.
If Hoghart had continued like he did with “Season’s End,” he would have won me over. After “Holidays in Eden” it was over!
6 years ago I was at a Marillion concert... the most boring and arrogant thing I've ever heard from Marillion with the "nice" Hoghart. Never this band again...
I can hardly stand even the Marllion members' solo projects...
This is true about misplaced childhood album.! 😊
I always that the darkest album was Fugazi... Somebody can explain why I'm wrong ? Thx
pre Hogarth was the best, Fish defined MARILLION.
Personally I think Clutching at Straws is their overall masterpiece but this is a close second.
Great album but not their darkest at all, That would be Brave from 1994
Toppled the charts?
Sloppy video, 90% of the video isn't even Marillion, its either Fish's solo band or Marillion post Fish.
This whole video is a load of bullshit!!!
...and as someone previously said, the narration looks like IA generated.
Who wrote the text for this? An AI without I?
Listen, Rangus, the pictures are not era-correct...
But still I appreciate your work Rangus. And I love you. And I honor our love, and we shall honor this comment section.
Pictures and facts. This whole video is a load of bullshit!!!
what bollox fish and the band H The acid trip was fugazi
Masterpiece
Wow, this is so AI generated. Voice is AI, phrasing of the voice is robotic. And then showing still pictures of Marillion with H while talking about fish.
It was a good album but personally I think Brave was their best.
This whole video is a load of bullshit!!! And "Clutching at Straws" was the album made with Fish!
Weird video - like the story of Marillion I know but in a parallel universe lol
Fish and the band haha 0:55
This whole video is a load of bullshit!!!
Lavender & Kayleigh are the two which I skip. The rest perfect!
Make a video about an album, never play a single excerpt from the album.
Fish should have stayed with Marillion. He's never been a relevance in ProgRock since. His solo efforts are weak for the most part but both Marillion and Fish have been tossed aside for my current and future listening.
How to spend a lot of time saying very little 😒
I see what you did there - took a few grains of truth from stuff that Fish and the band have already said, put your own sensationalist spin on it and cobbled it all together with footage of musicians that were nothing to do with the original album at all 👍🏻 quality 😂😂 definitely a “Clutching at Straws “ production - which was also an album by Fish by the way 🤣
Clutching at Straws most definately had Fish onboard bro....
6:41 Eh, Fish appears on every track of Clutching At Straws.
Do some research and don't just let the AI write your homework for you. Channel blocked.
Not a subscriber
Sorry .But clutching at straws was their best..Then fugazi.. misplaced is the third
Let’s be honest MARILLION are effectively a “one hit wonder” band with KAYLEIGH,it’s a great song admittedly but you ask 100 average people off the street that’s arnt diehard fans of there’s to name as many MARILLION songs as they can,I’d put money on it that probably 95 of them could only say KAYLEIGH and a few more maybe at a push could name LAVENDER,hence why they are one hit wonders,I use the “100 people off the street” analogy to always work out how many hit wonder a particular band/singer is.
Since Marillion only made four albums with Fish and reduced them to just Micplaced. Marillion seems to have understood little about Fish. Kayleigh isn't even the best song on this album. Just the usual stuff released and well promoted thanks to the record company.
This was even less successful with Clutching Straws.
The pearls of Marillion and Fish lie somewhere else.
Marillion with Hoghart is dead for this kind of thing. I like Neoprog and other variations. Hoghart's Marillion doesn't fit into any of my ideas about progressive music. They live only by name.
@@tobiasmuth2372 misplaced childhood is a great album but for whatever reason they are only known for KAYLEIGH by the majority of people. It’s the same story with the heavy metal band EXTREME,they are only known for the acoustic ballad “more than words”
@@garethwilby4033 For me there is a little fun fact. I saw the singer Gary Cherone from Extreme in 1992 as a successor (of course he doesn't exist) for Freddie Mercury.
His performance at the Tribute Concert for Freddie was outstanding... This made me even more sorry that he and Queen didn't get together...
Back to Marillion - Kayleigh was well advertised. EMI just wanted to see money...
Fugazi is way better
Do more research mate😂
Just a rip-off of Genesis, look at that makeup. So crappy.
Oh shut up.
This band sucks so bad. Fish is a creep.
Why watch if you hate Marillion. Go away and leave it be
@@ziggystardust1798 Don't feed the troll, poor thing has no life.