It is a nice layout with the walk around bed and bigger bath! We think Forest River does a good job of having 4 different layouts in these 20ft campers that will fit most people's needs. Hopefully you are getting to use yours this summer to do some awesome camping! Thanks for the watch - appreciate!
@@WinesPinesandCanines Thanks! I really enjoy your videos.. I’m making some last minute mods before a 50 day or so trip to New Mexico. I agree with you on the floor plans.. there’s a little bit of something for everyone. The 19FBS would have been next best for me.
So we just got back about a month ago from Maine and New Hampshire. Not sure where we are headed next but half the fun is the research haha. Any suggestions? (And would love to hear about NM! We loved Santa Rosa. Troy’s favorite breakfast burrito is there lol. It made it into two of our videos as we had to try it on the way out west and on the way back haha)
Nice review. I was looking at the 20FKS but decided on a 2109 after looking at the fks. This review helps with my decision I made, the kitchen storage and no counter space would make this an easy decision.
I am really looking forward to your review of The Grand Design 16 ml is that is the model I think that I am going to be purchasing this spring. I have also looked at the GoPro models but they can't hold a candle to the storage and counter space in The Grand Design aim series
It is a very nice camper! And the 16ml definitely has storage and a great kitchen. The extra width of the camper really does make a difference. But there are a few things that we like on our GeoPro better lol. Thanks for watching!
Hi Leon! Agreed! We have not. Had it on the list but when Desi got sick we had to stop camping in hot/humid weather so on hold for now. But definitely a needed upgrade. Hope all is well!
Thanks for another great video. Lots of information! I must say the bed in the 20FBS would be a deal breaker for me. We like our king sized bed even if we have to crawl up from the bottom but we find it the most comfortable place to watch tv at night. Plus what wasn't mentioned was that the door is right there near the bed making it difficult for one person to slip out in the morning without waking the other. We made drawers under our sofa for storage so the new table would hinder that. The larger bathroom is a plus but the kitchen is a minus. I guess each couple has to decide what is most important.
Thank you - appreciate that! Yes - we do like being able to do that king mod and that full would probably be the deal breaker for us. But it is good that Forest River did create the 20FBS for people wanting a walk around. And that is a good point on the door! And drawers - nice! Did you attach them to the panel or take it out all together?
We have a 2022 FBS, it is a great camper. I built the two little foot stools, put the shelf extension on and added a rear bike carrier. We will be spending the month of Feburary in it in Florida. Thanks for your videos. I have used your ideas so thanks for those also.
Thank you for watching and commenting! Appreciate :). And they are great little campers and sounds like you have done some nice additions! That rear hitch/bike carrier would be a good upgrade! What part of Fla are you heading to?
Hi guys! Thanks for the review and the compare and contrast. You know we love our G19FBS. It’s perfect for the 2 of us and the mods we’ve made have greatly improved storage. It’s only weakness, in our humble opinion, is the bathroom. But it’s also the area we spend the least amount of time in so it’s not a big deal. We would not be happy stepping down to a mini full size bed from our full size queen. And the loss of all that interior storage is a nonstarter too. Would love to have more battery and solar and the bigger inverter. Those are awesome. But I can upgrade all that stuff on the rig we have. I don’t see us upgrading any time soon and if we do we might look at a mini C or a B. But for now, what we have works great for us. Looking forward to the new vlogs you’ve got comin! Travel safe!
Hi Lee! And you sound just like us haha. We do love that 19fbs but oh would be nice for just a bit more space in that bathroom lol. Still working on coming up with a plan! But the bed would be the non starter for us as well. Love our makeshift king. And yes - would be nice to have that power package all nice and installed at pickup but also fun to pick out our own upgrades! And we do miss our class c sometimes. Something so American about riding in a motorhome across the country! And snacks were always just a few steps away haha! Have a great week!!
So sorry - somehow missed your comment! How did the pickup go? Jealous of the power package - looks like a great upgrade. Curious if you have had a chance to try it out?
@@WinesPinesandCanines I successfully picked it up in Phoenix and got it down to Green Valley. Mileage wasn't too great (10.3mpg). I have a Ford Explorer with a 5,600 lb weight limit, and trailer empty is 3,700 lbs., so I'm concerned a bit about range. I'm going to do a shake down trip at SoAZ state parks and Chiricahua National Monument at the beginning of May. I have a month and a half trip planned this summer up north.
Yes - our mileage is about the same with our Tundra. And only a 26 gallon tank so we are stopping a few times a day. Really does slow you down! And sounds like you are really going to get some use out of it over the next few months! Let us know how it goes!
Great video! So much insight! That picture montage made me so jealous! We might have made a different decision if we had seen these differences sooner. Truth be told our layout (19FDS) was to cumbersome for us. The Murphy bed was great for saving space, but such a hassle every morning and night. We ordered a 2205s. Similar layout to the FBS, just closer to what will work better for us. So nice to see Desi! Stay well!
Hi! Thank you :) Yes - that was our concern initially with the murphy bed. We had a class c and had to make up the beds every night/day. While it doesn't take alot of time- still a hassle! We love the 2205s. That is the one we have looked at as the next camper if we ever go bigger! And as it is so similar to the FBS, we feel it will make doing some mods a bit easier haha. There is another youtube channel - Its About Time Now - they just bought it as well and have done a few small mods.
Hey guys! Great video! We have the 2023 20FBS. We still prefer our model. Love the bigger bathroom. The 2024 is nice, but the only upgrade I liked was the new storage compartment handles. The fix for a lack of counter space is a large bamboo cutting board that covers the entire stove. I prefer to cook outdoors mostly. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! It is a nice layout - especially with that big bathroom! We like that all of the floorplans deliver something a little different for people. We did like those handles - and the new inverter option (would be nice to use our Keurig when boondocking!). Good tip on the cutting board and we also prefer to cook outside. Main reason we removed the stove completely. Have a great camping season!
Trying to do the arm mod and pulled 2 screws off but it seems like its glued on now as well? or screwed in from the back? on a 2024 20FBS. Also that bottom cabinet in bathroom has a panel just to hide the water pump that only goes up halfway. Going to cut that down to stick toilet paper holder inside that door and maybe basket shelf.
Hi - were you able to get it removed? We don't have that particular model - was going off a mod one of our viewers did but can ask if you weren't able to remove. And that is a great idea on the bathroom sink. We have found quite a bit of storage lurking behind panels! Hope you are enjoying the new camper!
Thank you for watching! Yes - appreciate the fact that companies are trying to improve (many of the upgrades we see people requesting online) but there were a few I don’t know if we would want. We upgraded the stabilizers on our own and having that storage underneath is nice (plus the slide controller is under there if it ever needs to be reset). But the table was a very nice table!
We have. Reviewed one a few years ago in a video. It was a very nice camper - had some great options that we wish the GeoPro had. Are you looking at one?
Great comparison! I have been shopping since last fall and had settled on the 20FBS but recently am leaning towards the 19FBS. As was mentioned, the bathroom is smaller but we don't spend much time in there :) The lack of storage in the 20FBS was worrying. Another comment mentions the door near the bed and I wouldn't like that either. You can convert the 20FBS full bed into a queen but I think the east/west bed on the 19FBS would be workable with a beddy. No camper is going to tick all our boxes, but your videos make the decision much easier...Thanks!!
Hi - thanks for watching! Either camper would be a great choice :). We like that we can do a “king size” in the 19fbs with a simple mod. That bathroom is cramped but it is doable. (Oh - we also bought a quick zip sheet for the bed. Super easy to remove, wash and put back on!) Let us know which way you decide to go!
@WinesPinesandCanines Hi there!! That is great to hear! We just pulled in from a trip to the Palm Springs/Joshua Tree National Park area! My wife gets a hip replacement in a few days. So....nothing on the schedule currently. We will need her to have a full recovery before she can get up in the camper. But...no doubt, my dog and I will head out to our property in Paradox , CO; which is just east of the La Sal Mountains which are just east of Moab. I like to take the trailer out there for a week and use it as a base camp to explore and hike the greater area. So...we will be waiting for her recovery before making any bigger plans.
So sorry to hear about out your wife - hope she is doing well!!! Glad you were able to get a trip in! Colorado is top of our list. The vet has given a tentative ok for Desi to travel to higher “low” elevations lol, but we are a little reluctant to rock the boat with him doing well! (And I dont think Colorado has any “low” elevations!) Hope you have a great trip out to La Sal and that your wife is soon back to 100%!
@WinesPinesandCanines Thank you so much!! Fortunately, it seems like 99% are much better off. But, it is easy to get focused on the 1%. We are in our mid 50s, so a loss of mobility is no bueno, at this point. We are actually considering possibly moving in a year or two up to Fruita/Grand Junction/Palisade Colorado area. We would love the Palisade area because of all of the wineries. But...house availability can be slim there. Ha..yes....the altitudes are not too low here. I had to look it up; about 3300 feet is the lowest elevation; it's out on the Kansas border, of course. I am actually trying to ID several sites out in the eastern part of the state and making a plan for a camping trip to that area. I would need to do it in the winter or spring since my dog is a black-ish long hair german shepherd. Too hot in the summer! I have mentioned planning something like this to my friends and I usually get the "what the heck would you want to do something like that for". Well, there are things out there to see! And, one has to bring a good imagination with.
Yes - getting older is no fun! Wish we had appreciated our 20’s and 30’s more lol. Slowing down physically when you feel no different in your head is hard! Grand Junction is a nice area! Loved visiting years ago. And ha! We have found almost anywhere has a reason to visit. Part of the fun is finding it!
I love your video’s, I have a 19FD Geo Pro and your content has been so helpful and inspirational. Your unit seems to have held up very well over the years and I’m hoping ours does as well. Looking forward to the Grand Design comparison as I’ve often looked at them but when you compare the details it seems like the Geo Pro may be a better product, more bang for your buck?? Looking forward to your thoughts.
Aww - thank you. We truly appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment! Ours is going on 5 years and about 22000 miles and we are still very happy. A few repairs/bumps along the way but overall it has held up great. Will say - we loved the Grand Design 16ml. It is a very strong competitor!
Another great video!! On my 2021 19FBS, I got the front bike rack but quickly discovered that it wouldn't work for me. My two Labs ride in the rear of the Jeep in crates. The bike hung too low to get the rear hatch open when making a pit-stop for the pups. Last year I had someone add a hitch to the back of my trailer, making for easier hauling of my bike. Always look forward to your videos.
Thank you :). Oh - yes - that would definitely be a problem with the rack. We have thought about adding the hitch. Good to know it has been successful for you! Thanks for watching as always - appreciate :). Happy Camping!
I have the 2018 19FBS. perfect camper for me, only downside I've had is the bike rack won't fit my bike, granted my mountain bike is significantly larger than most. I've done a few of the simpler mods/diy accessories that you guys did, like the cup holder side table. Thanks for the Ideas!
Thank you for watching! Glad the camper is still working out for you - did you buy new? We have had ours for almost 5 years now - time flies haha. And yes - our ebikes wouldn’t work with it either. It would be nice to have that new hitch in the back!
Good to see you. We have similar bed set up in our Epro except it is a Murphy bed. It is NOT a true walk around and sits so high off the ground you need a trampoline to mount and dismount on the dern thing. We still love it, but just sayin.
Tailgate Brewing looks like the place to be. The slide topper, bike rake and power upgrades are nice options.The GeoPro has made some nice upgrades to their older models. Lagoon table-never knew that's what it was called. Yea, there is literally no counter space. More storage is nice, but don't understand why you'd even pretend that it's a cabinet in the bathroom with that panel boarding it up on the inside. Do like the drawers under the bed. Yes, the walk around bed is a plus; even though it's smaller. Be safe guys, Bill and DeAnna
Hi guys! Yes - we really liked them. Ended up going to another location on the trip as well. So many unique flavors! Hope you guys are doing well - trip is soon? Excited to see it! Safe travels to you both as well! (also - we had our favorite pizza tonite and I turned to Troy and was like “this is really good. But not as good as the pizza we had in Corning with Bill and DeAnna”!)
We have the 2023 20FBS. We removed that sofa arm too. If it wasn't for the cup holder we'd remove the other one too because it's not particularly useful as an arm rest at all. might do that anyway. More for show and cup holding. Having leg rests would have been better and we almost bought one with more counter space and proper recliners that become a bed but the bathroom was soooo cramped. Had to an inch or two max between the toilet and wall and ending right by the shower. Again very close. That as the deal breaker for that one. Would be nice to have windows next to the sofa too. Also next to the bed, the "boxes" could have had some storage and a lift top as some have done. A slide on counter on the side would be a good addition. We do like the long table so we can play on our computers too, but we don't store it behind the sofa. We store toilet paper and emergency blankets.
Would be helpful if Forest River just put the sofa arm on the quick disconnect bracket! Those tight bathrooms definitely a downside. We do love our 19fbs but a bit more room in there would be nice. Yes - have always wondered why no windows on the slide outs. And there is definitely alot of storage room behind the sofa! It is on the list of mods we would like to do - make it a bit easier for organization. Right now, random stuff gets stuffed behind there lol. Hopefully you have some great trips planned this year!
BTW, ordered the 2205s with the power package but manual stabilizlers because I do not trust Lippert to make anything well. Plus the dealer said they work great for a year or two. Then it costs $700 to replace them.
Good to know! And definitely curious how those will work for people. Have heard both good and bad so far on comments. (and jealous on that power package!)
We brought our 2024 20FBS home in mid Dec. It's been sitting in the driveway but has been too cold to really do much to it. I did make the couch armrest removable so that there was access to the bathroom with the slide in. As far as the new stabilizers go....the jury is still out on them. When parked on my slightly sloping driveway, the rear stabilizers don't extend far enough to be in the recommended position (ie. they are too long). I've heard other people say the same thing. I like them but it doesn't seem like they were implemented correctly. A shorter version would probably be better.
That is so hard waiting to take it out! But gives some time for projects :). Yes - have heard of some having issues with not being able to extend because of the required length. We were excited to see them as looks like it would be a much needed upgrade over the stock stabilizers in previous years. Curious to see how they work once you get to finally take them out for a test. Thanks for watching!
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we have been in the 20fbs for several years but started to follow y'all because 1) good content, 2) a lot of the mods work for both campers.
Thank you and welcome! It is a great camper and so jealous on that bathroom haha.
@@WinesPinesandCanines and we are jealous of your king bed..... lolz
Ha! That was a nice perk of that east west bed!
I have the 2021 20FBS and love it. If I were to trade it in, I'd just get the newest model of the 20FBS - It's perfect for me and my dog.
It is a nice layout with the walk around bed and bigger bath! We think Forest River does a good job of having 4 different layouts in these 20ft campers that will fit most people's needs. Hopefully you are getting to use yours this summer to do some awesome camping! Thanks for the watch - appreciate!
@@WinesPinesandCanines Thanks! I really enjoy your videos.. I’m making some last minute mods before a 50 day or so trip to New Mexico. I agree with you on the floor plans.. there’s a little bit of something for everyone. The 19FBS would have been next best for me.
@@WinesPinesandCanines what area are you all headed to next?
So we just got back about a month ago from Maine and New Hampshire. Not sure where we are headed next but half the fun is the research haha. Any suggestions? (And would love to hear about NM! We loved Santa Rosa. Troy’s favorite breakfast burrito is there lol. It made it into two of our videos as we had to try it on the way out west and on the way back haha)
Nice review. I was looking at the 20FKS but decided on a 2109 after looking at the fks. This review helps with my decision I made, the kitchen storage and no counter space would make this an easy decision.
Hi! Thanks for the watch. Yes - the 2109 definitely has more counter space! Have you purchased the new camper yet?
@@WinesPinesandCanines yes, I picked it up Saturday. I have a wdh coming by weeks end to hopefully help with 860# tongue weight
Would love to hear how it goes! That is one of the models we thought about upgrading to one day in the future.
Great review… nice to see the models head to head ~Brad and Diana
Thanks! We love looking at campers lol.
Good to see yall drop a video.
Thanks! And thanks for the watch!
I am really looking forward to your review of The Grand Design 16 ml is that is the model I think that I am going to be purchasing this spring. I have also looked at the GoPro models but they can't hold a candle to the storage and counter space in The Grand Design aim series
It is a very nice camper! And the 16ml definitely has storage and a great kitchen. The extra width of the camper really does make a difference. But there are a few things that we like on our GeoPro better lol. Thanks for watching!
Every camper should come with a soft-start. I've forgotten, have you installed one on yours?
Hi Leon! Agreed! We have not. Had it on the list but when Desi got sick we had to stop camping in hot/humid weather so on hold for now. But definitely a needed upgrade. Hope all is well!
Hoping to see your thoughts on imagine 16ml.
Hi! Well a sneak peak - we did really like the camper! Working on that video this past week so should be soon!
Thanks for another great video. Lots of information! I must say the bed in the 20FBS would be a deal breaker for me. We like our king sized bed even if we have to crawl up from the bottom but we find it the most comfortable place to watch tv at night. Plus what wasn't mentioned was that the door is right there near the bed making it difficult for one person to slip out in the morning without waking the other. We made drawers under our sofa for storage so the new table would hinder that. The larger bathroom is a plus but the kitchen is a minus. I guess each couple has to decide what is most important.
Thank you - appreciate that! Yes - we do like being able to do that king mod and that full would probably be the deal breaker for us. But it is good that Forest River did create the 20FBS for people wanting a walk around. And that is a good point on the door! And drawers - nice! Did you attach them to the panel or take it out all together?
Nice video! Love seeing the compare/contrast of the old vs. new models! Looking forward to your upcoming new mattress video!
Thank you! Its always interesting to see what the manufacturers come up with! That should be out soon - likely within the month. Thanks for watching!
We have a 2022 FBS, it is a great camper. I built the two little foot stools, put the shelf extension on and added a rear bike carrier. We will be spending the month of Feburary in it in Florida. Thanks for your videos. I have used your ideas so thanks for those also.
Thank you for watching and commenting! Appreciate :). And they are great little campers and sounds like you have done some nice additions! That rear hitch/bike carrier would be a good upgrade! What part of Fla are you heading to?
Hi guys! Thanks for the review and the compare and contrast. You know we love our G19FBS. It’s perfect for the 2 of us and the mods we’ve made have greatly improved storage. It’s only weakness, in our humble opinion, is the bathroom. But it’s also the area we spend the least amount of time in so it’s not a big deal. We would not be happy stepping down to a mini full size bed from our full size queen. And the loss of all that interior storage is a nonstarter too. Would love to have more battery and solar and the bigger inverter. Those are awesome. But I can upgrade all that stuff on the rig we have. I don’t see us upgrading any time soon and if we do we might look at a mini C or a B. But for now, what we have works great for us. Looking forward to the new vlogs you’ve got comin! Travel safe!
Hi Lee! And you sound just like us haha. We do love that 19fbs but oh would be nice for just a bit more space in that bathroom lol. Still working on coming up with a plan! But the bed would be the non starter for us as well. Love our makeshift king.
And yes - would be nice to have that power package all nice and installed at pickup but also fun to pick out our own upgrades!
And we do miss our class c sometimes. Something so American about riding in a motorhome across the country! And snacks were always just a few steps away haha! Have a great week!!
I'm taking delivery of my 2024 ePro 20FBS next week. It has the Power Package, so I'm curious to see how it handles off grid camping.
So sorry - somehow missed your comment! How did the pickup go? Jealous of the power package - looks like a great upgrade. Curious if you have had a chance to try it out?
@@WinesPinesandCanines I successfully picked it up in Phoenix and got it down to Green Valley. Mileage wasn't too great (10.3mpg). I have a Ford Explorer with a 5,600 lb weight limit, and trailer empty is 3,700 lbs., so I'm concerned a bit about range. I'm going to do a shake down trip at SoAZ state parks and Chiricahua National Monument at the beginning of May. I have a month and a half trip planned this summer up north.
Yes - our mileage is about the same with our Tundra. And only a 26 gallon tank so we are stopping a few times a day. Really does slow you down! And sounds like you are really going to get some use out of it over the next few months! Let us know how it goes!
Great video! So much insight! That picture montage made me so jealous! We might have made a different decision if we had seen these differences sooner. Truth be told our layout (19FDS) was to cumbersome for us. The Murphy bed was great for saving space, but such a hassle every morning and night. We ordered a 2205s. Similar layout to the FBS, just closer to what will work better for us. So nice to see Desi! Stay well!
Hi! Thank you :) Yes - that was our concern initially with the murphy bed. We had a class c and had to make up the beds every night/day. While it doesn't take alot of time- still a hassle! We love the 2205s. That is the one we have looked at as the next camper if we ever go bigger! And as it is so similar to the FBS, we feel it will make doing some mods a bit easier haha. There is another youtube channel - Its About Time Now - they just bought it as well and have done a few small mods.
Hey guys! Great video! We have the 2023 20FBS. We still prefer our model. Love the bigger bathroom. The 2024 is nice, but the only upgrade I liked was the new storage compartment handles. The fix for a lack of counter space is a large bamboo cutting board that covers the entire stove. I prefer to cook outdoors mostly. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! It is a nice layout - especially with that big bathroom! We like that all of the floorplans deliver something a little different for people. We did like those handles - and the new inverter option (would be nice to use our Keurig when boondocking!). Good tip on the cutting board and we also prefer to cook outside. Main reason we removed the stove completely. Have a great camping season!
Trying to do the arm mod and pulled 2 screws off but it seems like its glued on now as well? or screwed in from the back? on a 2024 20FBS. Also that bottom cabinet in bathroom has a panel just to hide the water pump that only goes up halfway. Going to cut that down to stick toilet paper holder inside that door and maybe basket shelf.
Hi - were you able to get it removed? We don't have that particular model - was going off a mod one of our viewers did but can ask if you weren't able to remove. And that is a great idea on the bathroom sink. We have found quite a bit of storage lurking behind panels! Hope you are enjoying the new camper!
@@WinesPinesandCanines yes, there was a 3rd screw, 2 at top
Thanks for the informative video!!! As you have shown, the changes for the new models are not always better then what was there before.
Thank you for watching! Yes - appreciate the fact that companies are trying to improve (many of the upgrades we see people requesting online) but there were a few I don’t know if we would want. We upgraded the stabilizers on our own and having that storage underneath is nice (plus the slide controller is under there if it ever needs to be reset). But the table was a very nice table!
Have you looked at any of the Jayco Jay Feather micro's?
We have. Reviewed one a few years ago in a video. It was a very nice camper - had some great options that we wish the GeoPro had. Are you looking at one?
@@WinesPinesandCanines I was considering the 173MRB. It has about the same floor plan as the GoePro19FD.
Jayco was a nice camper. Are you still looking or did you choose one? We will have an Imagine Aim 16ML review up soon. Nice camper as well.
Great comparison! I have been shopping since last fall and had settled on the 20FBS but recently am leaning towards the 19FBS. As was mentioned, the bathroom is smaller but we don't spend much time in there :) The lack of storage in the 20FBS was worrying. Another comment mentions the door near the bed and I wouldn't like that either. You can convert the 20FBS full bed into a queen but I think the east/west bed on the 19FBS would be workable with a beddy. No camper is going to tick all our boxes, but your videos make the decision much easier...Thanks!!
Hi - thanks for watching! Either camper would be a great choice :). We like that we can do a “king size” in the 19fbs with a simple mod. That bathroom is cramped but it is doable. (Oh - we also bought a quick zip sheet for the bed. Super easy to remove, wash and put back on!)
Let us know which way you decide to go!
Hello Linda and Troy!! Awesome showcase of these GeoPro campers!! I hope you two are doing well!!
Hi Alan! Thank you :). We are doing well - hope the same for you? How is the camper doing? Any trips planned for 2024?
@WinesPinesandCanines Hi there!! That is great to hear! We just pulled in from a trip to the Palm Springs/Joshua Tree National Park area! My wife gets a hip replacement in a few days. So....nothing on the schedule currently. We will need her to have a full recovery before she can get up in the camper. But...no doubt, my dog and I will head out to our property in Paradox , CO; which is just east of the La Sal Mountains which are just east of Moab. I like to take the trailer out there for a week and use it as a base camp to explore and hike the greater area.
So...we will be waiting for her recovery before making any bigger plans.
So sorry to hear about out your wife - hope she is doing well!!!
Glad you were able to get a trip in! Colorado is top of our list. The vet has given a tentative ok for Desi to travel to higher “low” elevations lol, but we are a little reluctant to rock the boat with him doing well! (And I dont think Colorado has any “low” elevations!)
Hope you have a great trip out to La Sal and that your wife is soon back to 100%!
@WinesPinesandCanines Thank you so much!! Fortunately, it seems like 99% are much better off. But, it is easy to get focused on the 1%. We are in our mid 50s, so a loss of mobility is no bueno, at this point. We are actually considering possibly moving in a year or two up to Fruita/Grand Junction/Palisade Colorado area. We would love the Palisade area because of all of the wineries. But...house availability can be slim there.
Ha..yes....the altitudes are not too low here. I had to look it up; about 3300 feet is the lowest elevation; it's out on the Kansas border, of course.
I am actually trying to ID several sites out in the eastern part of the state and making a plan for a camping trip to that area. I would need to do it in the winter or spring since my dog is a black-ish long hair german shepherd. Too hot in the summer! I have mentioned planning something like this to my friends and I usually get the "what the heck would you want to do something like that for". Well, there are things out there to see! And, one has to bring a good imagination with.
Yes - getting older is no fun! Wish we had appreciated our 20’s and 30’s more lol. Slowing down physically when you feel no different in your head is hard!
Grand Junction is a nice area! Loved visiting years ago. And ha! We have found almost anywhere has a reason to visit. Part of the fun is finding it!
I love your video’s, I have a 19FD Geo Pro and your content has been so helpful and inspirational. Your unit seems to have held up very well over the years and I’m hoping ours does as well. Looking forward to the Grand Design comparison as I’ve often looked at them but when you compare the details it seems like the Geo Pro may be a better product, more bang for your buck?? Looking forward to your thoughts.
Aww - thank you. We truly appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment! Ours is going on 5 years and about 22000 miles and we are still very happy. A few repairs/bumps along the way but overall it has held up great. Will say - we loved the Grand Design 16ml. It is a very strong competitor!
Another great video!! On my 2021 19FBS, I got the front bike rack but quickly discovered that it wouldn't work for me. My two Labs ride in the rear of the Jeep in crates. The bike hung too low to get the rear hatch open when making a pit-stop for the pups.
Last year I had someone add a hitch to the back of my trailer, making for easier hauling of my bike. Always look forward to your videos.
Thank you :). Oh - yes - that would definitely be a problem with the rack. We have thought about adding the hitch. Good to know it has been successful for you! Thanks for watching as always - appreciate :). Happy Camping!
I have the 2018 19FBS. perfect camper for me, only downside I've had is the bike rack won't fit my bike, granted my mountain bike is significantly larger than most. I've done a few of the simpler mods/diy accessories that you guys did, like the cup holder side table. Thanks for the Ideas!
Thank you for watching! Glad the camper is still working out for you - did you buy new? We have had ours for almost 5 years now - time flies haha. And yes - our ebikes wouldn’t work with it either. It would be nice to have that new hitch in the back!
Good to see you. We have similar bed set up in our Epro except it is a Murphy bed. It is NOT a true walk around and sits so high off the ground you need a trampoline to mount and dismount on the dern thing. We still love it, but just sayin.
Ha! We havent been in one of the FD/FDS with the bed down so that is a good tip for some! Glad you are enjoying- hopefully some fun trips planned?
Tailgate Brewing looks like the place to be. The slide topper, bike rake and power upgrades are nice options.The GeoPro has made some nice upgrades to their older models. Lagoon table-never knew that's what it was called. Yea, there is literally no counter space. More storage is nice, but don't understand why you'd even pretend that it's a cabinet in the bathroom with that panel boarding it up on the inside. Do like the drawers under the bed. Yes, the walk around bed is a plus; even though it's smaller. Be safe guys, Bill and DeAnna
Hi guys! Yes - we really liked them. Ended up going to another location on the trip as well. So many unique flavors! Hope you guys are doing well - trip is soon? Excited to see it! Safe travels to you both as well! (also - we had our favorite pizza tonite and I turned to Troy and was like “this is really good. But not as good as the pizza we had in Corning with Bill and DeAnna”!)
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I will keep my 2022 G19fbs. The only 2 things I wish I had was the rear hitch and bigger inverter.
Yes - the same for us! Those are the two items not easily upgraded! Hope all is well. Have any trips upcoming in 2024?
We have the 2023 20FBS. We removed that sofa arm too. If it wasn't for the cup holder we'd remove the other one too because it's not particularly useful as an arm rest at all. might do that anyway. More for show and cup holding. Having leg rests would have been better and we almost bought one with more counter space and proper recliners that become a bed but the bathroom was soooo cramped. Had to an inch or two max between the toilet and wall and ending right by the shower. Again very close. That as the deal breaker for that one. Would be nice to have windows next to the sofa too. Also next to the bed, the "boxes" could have had some storage and a lift top as some have done. A slide on counter on the side would be a good addition. We do like the long table so we can play on our computers too, but we don't store it behind the sofa. We store toilet paper and emergency blankets.
Would be helpful if Forest River just put the sofa arm on the quick disconnect bracket! Those tight bathrooms definitely a downside. We do love our 19fbs but a bit more room in there would be nice. Yes - have always wondered why no windows on the slide outs. And there is definitely alot of storage room behind the sofa! It is on the list of mods we would like to do - make it a bit easier for organization. Right now, random stuff gets stuffed behind there lol. Hopefully you have some great trips planned this year!
BTW, ordered the 2205s with the power package but manual stabilizlers because I do not trust Lippert to make anything well. Plus the dealer said they work great for a year or two. Then it costs $700 to replace them.
Good to know! And definitely curious how those will work for people. Have heard both good and bad so far on comments. (and jealous on that power package!)
We brought our 2024 20FBS home in mid Dec. It's been sitting in the driveway but has been too cold to really do much to it. I did make the couch armrest removable so that there was access to the bathroom with the slide in. As far as the new stabilizers go....the jury is still out on them. When parked on my slightly sloping driveway, the rear stabilizers don't extend far enough to be in the recommended position (ie. they are too long). I've heard other people say the same thing. I like them but it doesn't seem like they were implemented correctly. A shorter version would probably be better.
That is so hard waiting to take it out! But gives some time for projects :). Yes - have heard of some having issues with not being able to extend because of the required length. We were excited to see them as looks like it would be a much needed upgrade over the stock stabilizers in previous years. Curious to see how they work once you get to finally take them out for a test. Thanks for watching!
I HATE that table! Why cant it be a small dinette
We aren’t sure we would like it either. Curious for anyone that has used it. Do you have the new model?