Thanks for the very good jig information. It's frustrating to go through extra material and time when assemblies don't come together as planned. I appreciate you taking the time to share your approach.
It's so nice when you can do part of these jobs in the shop. I don't work with PVC material much , the jog was a huge help . Thanks for sharing the tips of working with PVC.
Im about to duplicate this technique for wrapping 3 posts. Trying to find the white hot which is a challenge. What length brad nail do you use? Is a 2" 15ga SS finish nail ok?
Yeah, the White Hot can be difficult to find now. Last time I needed it I found it locally but sold in full size caulk tubes. It was wicked expensive, too. For nailing off the miters a 2 inch 15 gauge would be plenty. You just need to hold the miters together long enough for the adhesive to set up. You could use an 18 gauge nail and be fine. I use stainless nails, though, so I don't have rust problems later.
I hate to promote Amazon but after 2 big box stores with no luck on SS Brad nails and trim welder that's the route I took. 1 week leadtime on trim welder from amazon at 28.99 per 10.1 tube.
Don't feel bad, that's what I do all day long. I don't really feel sorry for the retailers, though. If they want to compete they have to have something to sell and maybe some knowledge of what they are selling. Otherwise, why do they exist?
I need to build some decorative columns to reconstruct the original look of our bungalow. Can I install PVC wraps hollow with just base and top plates to secure them, or do they need more interior support?
You didn't mention the height or width of the columns. The taller you go and the wider you go, the more unstable the column will become. But, generally speaking I think you'll want some kind of interior structure both to stop the column from deforming and to provide strength if somebody leans on the column. Even if you don't need the structural support for the roof, I would install a 4x4 or doubled 2x4 in the middle and work off of that. I realize some 20s and 30s era Craftsman style houses have very short and wide columns built on top of stone or other masonry piers, but even those I would install some interior support or else the PVC will move on you.
I don't recall the exact number, but it is something fairly substantial. Part of that has to do with the size I want the overall post to be aesthetically. The post is 4x4, but I may want the wrap to measure 5 or 6 or even 8 inches, depending on the rest of the porch details. So I'll just shim out to where I need to be. The other part of the equation is that I want room for the wood 4x4 and the PVC wrap to move (somewhat) independently of each other.
Question im working with pvc for the first time triming out my windows. If i glue and screw the pvc (pocket screws) will the pvc frame buckle or twist.
Yes, all the joints are glued and ideally you'll apply cement to both sides of the joint or else make an effort to spread the cement thickly so there is time for both sides to fuse. It can be tricky working alone to move fast enough, I know. That's another reason to do a light sanding and paint the columns, because it allows you to correct any squeeze out.
It's funny you ask this now--I was just at my local lumberyard today and they had this stuff for sale right on the counter. The label was the "Christy's" brand. Honestly, I'm not certain of the brand and manufacturer anymore, but every tube I've ever bought which said "white hot" on it was the same stuff inside.
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Thanks for the very good jig information. It's frustrating to go through extra material and time when assemblies don't come together as planned. I appreciate you taking the time to share your approach.
Excellent video, thank you. As a trim guy who doesn't work with PVC much, this gave me the whole process for success.
Working with PVC isn't much fun, honestly, but I hope the jig idea will help.
Thanks, John, excellent timing on this, I need to wrap pvc boards on a new staircase. Lots of great tips here!
Thanks John. Always very interesting.
It's so nice when you can do part of these jobs in the shop. I don't work with PVC material much , the jog was a huge help . Thanks for sharing the tips of working with PVC.
So true--any time I can do some of the work in my shop I take the opportunity.
Nice craftsmanship 👍
Thanks for sharing your videos... You are very skilled and have great tools
Great video! Thank you for this. This helped tremendously!!
Very interesting video. Thanks John
Im about to duplicate this technique for wrapping 3 posts. Trying to find the white hot which is a challenge. What length brad nail do you use? Is a 2" 15ga SS finish nail ok?
Yeah, the White Hot can be difficult to find now. Last time I needed it I found it locally but sold in full size caulk tubes. It was wicked expensive, too. For nailing off the miters a 2 inch 15 gauge would be plenty. You just need to hold the miters together long enough for the adhesive to set up. You could use an 18 gauge nail and be fine. I use stainless nails, though, so I don't have rust problems later.
I hate to promote Amazon but after 2 big box stores with no luck on SS Brad nails and trim welder that's the route I took. 1 week leadtime on trim welder from amazon at 28.99 per 10.1 tube.
Don't feel bad, that's what I do all day long. I don't really feel sorry for the retailers, though. If they want to compete they have to have something to sell and maybe some knowledge of what they are selling. Otherwise, why do they exist?
great video
I need to build some decorative columns to reconstruct the original look of our bungalow. Can I install PVC wraps hollow with just base and top plates to secure them, or do they need more interior support?
You didn't mention the height or width of the columns. The taller you go and the wider you go, the more unstable the column will become. But, generally speaking I think you'll want some kind of interior structure both to stop the column from deforming and to provide strength if somebody leans on the column. Even if you don't need the structural support for the roof, I would install a 4x4 or doubled 2x4 in the middle and work off of that. I realize some 20s and 30s era Craftsman style houses have very short and wide columns built on top of stone or other masonry piers, but even those I would install some interior support or else the PVC will move on you.
Very helpful, quick question. What was the size of the gap you left between the azek and the wood post? It almost looks like 1/2 inch?
I don't recall the exact number, but it is something fairly substantial. Part of that has to do with the size I want the overall post to be aesthetically. The post is 4x4, but I may want the wrap to measure 5 or 6 or even 8 inches, depending on the rest of the porch details. So I'll just shim out to where I need to be. The other part of the equation is that I want room for the wood 4x4 and the PVC wrap to move (somewhat) independently of each other.
Question im working with pvc for the first time triming out my windows. If i glue and screw the pvc (pocket screws) will the pvc frame buckle or twist.
PVC must be allowed to move with changes in temperature. You need to plan on this movement or you will get problems.
Just starting a job wrapping fifteen 4x4's for my new screened porch. Are you applying the pvc cement to the all mating joints or just to one side?
Yes, all the joints are glued and ideally you'll apply cement to both sides of the joint or else make an effort to spread the cement thickly so there is time for both sides to fuse. It can be tricky working alone to move fast enough, I know. That's another reason to do a light sanding and paint the columns, because it allows you to correct any squeeze out.
What company makes this White Hot trimwelder glue? Is it Christy’s?
It's funny you ask this now--I was just at my local lumberyard today and they had this stuff for sale right on the counter. The label was the "Christy's" brand. Honestly, I'm not certain of the brand and manufacturer anymore, but every tube I've ever bought which said "white hot" on it was the same stuff inside.
@@enduringcharm Its made by H.B.Fuller
These PVC boards are crazy expensive. For my deck it would cost over $2k just for the material let alone the labor.
Yes, PVC along with many other materials, has increased dramatically in price in the last five years. It can be disheartening.