Convicting A Murderer Ep. 4 Review (Candace Owens, Steven Avery, Making A Murderer, Brendan Dassey)
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2023
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Steven was a genius at removing ANY trace of Halbach's blood from his trailor and garage but left his blood and sweat (but no finger prints) all over the RAV 4 !! ..makes no sense whatsoever.
There's a conspiracy side to the Chris Watts case as well as that of James Holmes and 100s of others. You can make anything confusing.
Yeah and dont forgett he cleaned his trailor as a genius and then put all the dust back 🤭😂🤣😂
But he did miss a bullet that was proven to be shot from the .22 that he claimed to have never shot and then he wiped it clean of his own DNA. The bullet, however, did have her DNA on it. So, not such a perfect job.
@@mirjana113 He shampooed the carpets the day after Halbach's disappearance and that particular machine was never found. What, do you think there's blood all over every crime scene? Not even close!
The MAM filmmaker gave LE the opportunity to participate and they declined, BTW Andy was a customer there, he knew the lot 🤣
I'm a dealer in Wisconsin, and yes, Wisconsin does have an old law that states a non-dealer cannot buy/sell more than 5 vehicles per year. Yes that law does still exist, but it's not enforced. The DMV doesn't care how many vehicles a person buys/sells, as long as sales tax is being payed on the vehicle and it gets retitled EACH time it's sold.
The advantage of having a Dealer's License is that the dealership doesn't have to title the vehicle or pay sales taxes on it.
Thank you for that information!
@@newscott You bet Scott. Thank you for all the time you're spending on this case 🙏
We have the same here as well
In NC same law, but it is definitely enforced here
There are a lot of laws in Wisconsin that LE and the courts don't enforce.
I said it before and I'll say it again " WHERE IS ALL THE BLOOD ? " IF STEVEN KILLED HER and there was NO DNA OR BLOOD of Theresa in Steve's trailer!!
The murder didn't happen in the trailer.
@@thedarkknightrises330 That's the prosecution's story lol. It's what he was convicted on. Stop posting comments dude, you're obsessed. It's not healthy. Go outside and talk to real people
@mistressmendi2168
Stop posting? .. oh okay, sorry
@@mistressmendi2168lol why don’t you stop replying to people clearly you’re obsessed with replying go touch grass
@ericrichard3742 he was convicted, based on the murder happening in his trailer. So all you're doing is proving that he was convicted based on a lie, at this point that helps Steven Avery.
So far my opinion has not changed. They're innocent 😊
Agreed!
Guilty af for Steven imo. You killing cats and kidnapping ppl at gunpoint it's not a stretch that after years in prison you take it to the extreme upon release
@@Moneyovertruthkilling a cat is not the same as killing a human being. Also he was about to become a millionaire from the first wrongful conviction so saying he wanted to get even is absurd and ludicrous.
I'm watching this episode right now and I'm just floored they keep acting like she didn't know where she was going. Why point out she had to ask for the address when she was clearer called back and given it and told auto trader it was the Avery bothers. She knew before she got to that address.
she had been there several times before.
If he wanted one woman to pay for it, he would choose penny. He had nothing but grace and forgiveness for her.
That’s a great point. But these people will actually believe that he wanted a woman to pay for it so he chose some random woman. He would’ve gotten paid for it. He was about to become a multimillionaire. That’s is the stupidest thing said yet. He wanted someone to pay for it? Someone was about to pay for it and that someone was Manitiwoc county.
@@Allenrichards0326 yes, your comment makes more sense. I just had such a hard time even comprehending “he wanted someone to pay”… he was simply happy to be freed.
The doco didn’t mention the fact he spent 10 years longer in prison even after they were told Allen confessed to the assault in prison…
nope, 6 yrs, and why? For the attempted kidnapping at gun point of his cousin and her child.
That's for killing the cat and the attempted kidnapping with a gun.
@@brencelt I know what you mean but Gregery Allen had confessed to raping Penny long before Avery had been released. They called Colborn, who forwarded the message but someone called him and told him to stay out of it. Colborn was only a corrections officer at that time, not a cop so it's definitely not his fault. There's also proof that the sheriff back then and the prosecutor knew Avery was innocent. But in my opinion, he was and is where he needs to be because he would have gone to prison for something else and he'd just do it again. Just how it is.
Can they show the unedited flyover footage that would show the car was in the lot before we suspect it was planted? That would answer so many questions so if it was there - surely they will show it.
I would also love to see this!
The only flyover footage I've ever seen is after they'd already found the vehicle. It began to rain so they had to cover the Rav4.
@@moo-z137 there was one before it was found when they were looking for the car, but the vision shared is edited cutting out the part where it would so that area of the salvage yard. It would be such a damning piece of evidence if it shows the car there before all the theories of it being moved so not sure why it wouldn’t be released. If the car is there, of course. If it isn’t, not a good look for the state. Having said that it still would not be full proof whether it is or is not there but certain strong evidence either side.
So, we waited and waited for the BIG REVELATION on the fourth episode! They were going to prove that she didn't know where she was going! Wow, WHAT A JOKE! Scott, if that guy, the reporter from CAM, ever gets back with you, TELL HIM YOUR VIEWERS ARE BEYOND DISAPPOINTED!
Seriously!!! 😂
that is not their fault, that is the fault of anyone who believed their interest was anything but getting viewers to buy their video. with the amount of researchers on this case, it would be impossible to come up with new info on this case pointing to SA's guilt .
So, I haven't watched episode 4 yet, I'm still trying to find a FREE way to watch them. But I've heard elsewhere someone mention all the work needed to be done before scraping/crushing a vehicle. I've been in the Auto Salvage industry in Wisconsin in one way or another since I was old enough to walk. Earl is right, there are many required procedures to do before sending a vehicle to the shredder, we call that "processing" the vehicle. We are required to evacuate and store the Freon from the A/C system, remove battery and any other lead sources, remove mercury switches, drain most of the fluids (gas/diesel, engine oil, transmission/transfer case oil, antifreeze/coolant, brake fluid, etc). Tires need to be removed, although some companies that shred will allow you to leave tires on and just deduct a fee for each tire. Fuel tanks need to be removed as well, but most shredders will allow you to leave it in if it's been drained and has several holes punched in it. It's common to do this on vehicles with a tank that's difficult to remove. Theresa's RAV4 (assuming it's an AWD model) has a difficult tank because the rear driveshaft runs underneath the fuel tank. Anyhow, most of these procedures can be skipped if a person was in a hurry to crush the vehicle. I quick snip of an A/C line evacuates the Freon (yes I know it's illegal). The battery would need to come out, easy to do in a minute or so. Gas would need to be drained, very easy to just poke a few holes in the tank and let it run out on the ground, or maybe catch it in a pan or pail. Same with the coolant. Then quick buzz the wheels off and stick the damn car in the crusher! There's no reason that couldn't be done in about 10 or 15 minutes if someone with experience was prepared. It should also be noted that rules were much more lax back then. When a semi trailer load of crushed cars goes to the shredder, they either get stacked in a big pile to be shredded soon, or sometimes even go directly into the shredder. VIN's aren't checked at the shredder under normal circumstances. As Licensed Salvage Dealers, Avery Auto Salvage is the last entity to deal with the VIN of cars they scrap. Of course the authorities could ask the shredding company to check cars coming in from a suspicious dealer, and they would comply.
I don't know which shredder the Avery's sold thier scrap cars too, but it was either B&B Metals in Newton, Sadoff in Fond Du Lac, Samuel's in Green Bay, or Miller in Milwaukee. (Miller & Samuel's have been bought out by Alter since this time frame). Any of those shredders would've shredded the RAV4 unprocessed without batting an eye as long as there wasn't tires, a battery, or a full gas tank. And since this RAV4 has a "difficult" gas tank, no suspicion would be aroused from the tank being left in it. This is a FACT, not an opinion. Earl should know this and I believe he does know this. It makes me suspicious why he would make a statement saying there wasn't enough time to crush the RAV4.
Thanks for the info. Great comment.
@@aHavenForTheLost Thank you 👍
Wow! Great information and you sounds like you are very credible in your knowledge! Thank you for putting it all in words that we can understand! I appreciate you!
This is exactly what i thought, Earl knows this, it very interesting for him to make this statement. Anyone with a light knowledge of junk yards knows its fast and easy if you have access to the equipment. Might be illegal but so is murdering someone.
Wasn’t enough time, as in Steven being able to crush the vehicle without the entire family hearing or seeing it.The family was due to go out of town to their cabin in Crivitz. That would have been the ideal time to run the crusher but that was interrupted by the search warrant to search the salvage yard.
So far I am with this still... #ShowUsWhereWeWereFooled. I haven't seen anything they have claimed this to be. They also edited that phone call with Remicker and Wegret. Because Wegret states he thinks that the Zipperers was her last stop. Jynx on X I think tagged you with that information. Great job Thank you
They did!
Thank you!!
Thats my people .Lol take care@@newscott
My hope is that this backfires and does nothing but bring attention to this case and someone with authority has the decency to grant an evidentiary hearing to Steven Avery
Absolutely
The evidence is stacking up against Avery. CAM is doing a nice job at displaying truth.
@@thedarkknightrises330 what evidence. There is no evidence. It’s all gossip. There is far more evidence that says he was set up than there is saying that he is guilty. If this man killed this poor woman in his trailer where is the blood. That place should light up like Times Square. If this is evidence then be careful because you could be next
@@thedarkknightrises330 I suppose when one is so stuck on being right instead of finding the TRUTH you can come to these naive conclusions.
@jaypoll20
I don't have a dog in the fight.
The truth is crystal clear. Why you can't see it?? ... I've got 1,000 excuses for you
I always thought why would you murder someone when you live right beside your sister and other family members just doesn't make any sense at all. 🤷♂️
Especially when you've told people she's coming.???
None of it makes any sense
not sure murdering someone ever makes any sense...
Did you know there is not any 100% proof Teresa is dead? @@amandablack9026
@@Free-Thinker It actually makes perfect sense. He told detectives he didn't burn anything that night. Actually, they both did. They left that out, they left out the fact that they were together, that they had cleaned a red puddle behind the lawn mower (RED FLAG), that they had driven around in the golf cart looking for things to burn, etc. The detectives learned from all these other witnesses that these things took place. They didn't even have their eye on Avery at first but his story kept changing. She didn't arrive? Why would he say that? It's pretty simple why. Unfortunately for Avery, there was a witness that she'd been out there and that was Bobby Dassey. Once he found that out, he told Colborn that she was out there but that he'd seen her out his window taking pictures but that he didn't speak to her (RED FLAG). He changed his story nearly 10 times. It definitely makes sense.
It was absolutely Barbs van
How do people not know this?
Barb asked Steven to call for her because she knew he had sold vehicles in the past.
Steven was only doing a favor for his sister.
did you watch the episode?!!
@@amandablack9026Yeah, did you?
Does it matter if he was "doing a favor" if he concealed his calls?
@@saltyseale8561
Why did he use *67 tho and then later the same day not use it calling her. Avery is a killer the end. How the hell would anyone else pull this off with all the Averys around 24 7. It's ridiculous common sense ppl
@@MoneyovertruthOK so wheres all the blood in his trailer? How was he able to remove every trace of her blood, finger prints and DNA, but not the dust, dirt and grease underneath? He's either a criminal mastermind based on that or an idiot because he didn't clean any of his own blood, dna and fingerprints? He was convicted based on her being in his trailer when she died.
good to see you back Scott dont go we need the weekly update on CAM
Oh I’m not going anywhere 😁
Thanks for watching!
What s crock... it's all speculation, feelings and thoughts??? Very disappointing Candice,...
Did you even watch it? What are you talking about?
Kayla being raped is not speculation she say it herself. But oh maybe she's lying right cause Steven Avery would never do anything that bad cause he is such a good man right. Like the chief said they could've just killed him instead of all that effort to just frame him. You guys are a bunch of idiots
Steven Supporter. You won't be after the SERIES end. He's the Killer.
And yet he passed a brain fingerprint that has been proven to have 100% accuracy. You're right though, I haven't seen it. What new evidence do they provide? Do they explain how his blood was placed at seven random and unnatural places in her RAV4? What about the fact that none of her DNA was found on the car key, but his was? Do they present facts, or is it like this add describes, feelings, opinions and speculation?
@debacofzomb9889
If I may .. your first thought on brain fingerprinting. While, MaM made it out to be 100% accurate, that is highly debated. I believe it was in its infancy stages still when Zellner used it. Tests results on "guinea pigs", were the people had no dog in the fight, came back to be extremely unreliable.
CAM hasn't covered the physical evidence yet. But both the blood droplets and the key are explainable.
Avery's blood droplets and smear? Zellner's reenactment at the back of the RAV4 is pretty accurate to me, except it was Avery who attacked her. But let's say this is true, and let's say Avery attacked her with a hammer. While attacking her, he didn't bleed. (Whoever attacked her, did not leave a blood mixture of his and Teresa's blood). So Avery doesn't bleed during the attack. No attacker did. So how does Avery's blood get into her car? Easy! While moving the debris and branches, he opens the cut on his finger. The way the RAV is parked, Avery then has to reach in from the passenger's side door to retrieve the keys. He never has to grab the steering wheel. His blood drops match perfectly with soneone reaching in from the passenger's side door. Drop on the passenger's seat. Drop on the CD case. Drops on the floor below the ignition. And I'd bet the smear would match perfect with the backside of a hand that is dripping blood. And yes the angle of Avery's hand would cause him to hit that spot. The last drop was found in the passenger's side rear door entry way. Why there? If Avery opened the door to retrieve the hammer (or murder weapon), he would drip blood as he reaches in.
That takes us to the key. Again, easily explained. After Avery retrieves Teresa's keys, he is still bleeding. So what does a person normally do to things they've bled on? He/she cleans the object. His blood is on the keys. So he throws her other keys that he doesn't need into the fire, and keeps the RAV key. He cleans the key from all his blood and then rehandles the key. Thus that key was found with only Avery's DNA in it.
Make sense?
This whole series is a joke, they arent telling us anything nee. Thrir just trying to twist the truth. And Candice Owens is just trying to make a bigger name for herself, but all shes doing is making me dislike her ALOT
There is quite a lot that is new.
I think she just ruined her career
@@thedarkknightrises330 theres really not, not anything you couldnt of read on the internet by now. Everyone already new about his past and the cat. That in NO WAY makes him a murderer, and what they did to Brendon was reprehensible
@MrStardust7502
What they did to Brandon was horrible. 100% agree!!
CAM has done a great job of tearing down the pillars supporting Avery's innocence. The clips with Avery's own words and tone towards people paint him in a different light than was portrayed in MaM. CAM has added plenty of details about Avery's past, his activities leading up to Teresa's disappearance and murder, and the "bigger picture" on stuff MaM either misrepresented or left out.
One of the things I am looking forward to is if CAM will shed more light on Brandan's situation. I personally believe Brendan's February interview with police is the closest thing we have to the truth. He stated he got home and played video games and Avery called him later that night. When he went over to Avery's place, Brendan said he saw Teresa's toes in the fire. .... That's what I believe happened. She was dead before he got there. Therefore never took part in the murder.
@@thedarkknightrises330 I just have to say a few things about this. It's not like a just disagree. He is not where he belongs but he very well could have had sex with a corpse and helped move the body. I'm not saying this is how it was but, for example, if she was still breathing, unless she was brain dead (which can't be proven) then he was there when Avery shot her. (that might not count but it's too late now) He said she was still alive so nothing else matters. I mean, it does to us but the law is unfortunately and fortunately how it is.
Then there's no way around it. He was there while someone else was committing a felony and that makes him guilty. It's BS and it's unfair but his mom should have never given them permission to interview him without an attorney. I know these people didn't want to convict him for life and that's why he was offered a plea deal but he was told by Grandpa Avery, "Stick to your guns." So that's what he did. He would be out now if he would have testified. Another way to look at this is that Avery did this to him and that Dassey would have never done anything like this in his lifetime. But for the sake of the truth, I have to say what I feel and here it is. I'm pretty sure Dassey knew this was going to happen before it did. His excuse to knock on Avery's door was that he was bringing Avery his mail but I heard his mom say it over and over, that She Brings Steven His Mail and that She Brought It To Him That Day. So, in reality, no matter how you stretch it, if that's the truth then Dassey put himself there and nobody else can be held accountable.
If she was knowingly knew where she was going and was lured why wouldn’t TH have brought someone with her
Even if was for the money TH should have had backup with her
She obviously felt comfortable around Steven that’s why she went alone she been there before she knew where she was going
Why would she give Steven her direct number if she feared him?
She wasn’t afraid of him, as far as we can tell. But she was creeped by him. Totally different.
Imagine a documentary where they interrogate Bobby Dassey, and say where he was and what he did that day, if he has an alibi and people who saw him that day, and then the polygraph, and then another interrogation of Sawinsky and Buresh or something, the other guy who saw Bobby with the RAV that night. That would be the bombshell, a documentary where it is investigated through the telephone antennas where Collborn was when he made the call asking about the rav's license plate, where the photos that Teresa took from her camera that day are also investigated and recovered to find out if the time it says Bobby was the time he says he saw her taking photos, and not the time the woman driving the school bus said, where a detailed list of all the fingerprints and DNA that were in the rav was made, a documentary where Give Brendan Dassey a polygraph and a new interrogation.
Yeah, I guess I would watch that if we can add in an interrogation on Ken Kratz and his corruption to this case. Then, I would like to see him sitting in a jail cell. After that I would like... Okay, I better stop now. I'm getting ahead of myself. But, I would probably tune in no matter what, if Kathleen got to question Bobby! That's what I want!!!!! Lol!
@@jackielanestephan8666 One of the main people responsible for Steve being imprisoned is the prosecutor, who, like a conductor, organizes everything and pulls the strings to get him convicted, when in reality he should be looking for the truth.
@@n4sym137yasssss 😂 definitely would LOVE to see all of this. I would be on the edge of my seat. I may be totally wrong, but something isn’t right with all the info and testimonies from Bobby Dassey and Scott Tadach. I’m just feel like there is way more to their part of the story than what has been put out there. The computer data suppressed and hidden. Their “alibis” for each other. I just feel like prosecution cut a deal with Bobby after they found the computer and had Bobby testify in favor of prosecution so he wouldn’t get prison time. But… I may be totally wrong.
@@n4sym137 You mean it has nothing to do with any decisions Avery made? It was everybody else? You realize how unlikely that is, right? Now, you just sound like Avery. I quote his bro on the phone with him, "You never do anything wrong, nothing's ever your fault."
@@moo-z137 I'm just saying that if I were Bobby and I saw everything they said about me about the case as if I were the first suspect and with motives to commit the crime, and if I were actually innocent I would go to some program or documentary to deny what they say about me, I would even take a polygraph, but Bobby is behaving like the guilty ones who don't want to show their faces. Everyone knows that this is how a guilty person behaves.
Thanks again, yeah I see the kettle calling. They are doing exactly what they called out the MAM filmakers of doing, shameful!
I usely listen to Candace Owens, she for the most part is very logical. But this, I can't get behind her on this. I knew from the first two episodes that this was just their version. I already heard all the things she talked about. Everything was already known knowledge.
I might not be the sharpest tool but I for damn sure NOT the dulest.
Sounds to me, most things stated by Candace are similar to the ones stated by Kratz on his sh*tty book.
If convicting a murderer came out first then making a murderer second i think a lot of people opinion would be different..lot of edits and information left out of making a murderer
There is plenty left out of Convicting from the research I have done
@@Free-Thinker yeah probably but they dont seem to be editing bits like making a muderer did..things like steven leaving work early for first time on that day and all the inconsistent statements has me thinking hes gulity
They have and only aired half of conversations
@@andrewtaaffe6682But none of what was left out so far shows he's guilty.
There's still 6 episodes left...@@aHavenForTheLost
I just watched episode four and it was so badly put together and what is roll up to why is he so strongly pointing his finger at his brother now what is he worried about?
Yeah but to him it's obvious. He lived this and he witnessed it up close. He also knows what his brother is capable of. The brothers and the dad knew he was guilty from the get go. You were duped and hypnotized by a stupid show so that's how you're filtering everything. "It's easier to dupe someone than it is to convince them they've been duped."
Teresa only had a phone number , not an address. Hence her call However eventually auto trader sent address. The end. Ask Jynx
We covered that, Jynx helped a lot!
We meaning everyone on Twitter haha
@@newscott absolutely seen that Scott. My intention is to repeat as many times necessary to drive home the truth Cheers great job
I thought I saw from someone that by the time she realized where she was going it was too late because she already made the drive, which seems disproved by the fact she had to go out there anyway because of the zipperer appointment
@@LeeAnnBarterson in addition teresa told auto trader via phone ( Dawn Pliska ? ) , “ I’m on my way to Avery’s
I was a little confused on this part too and they needed to explain it better. Didn't they eventually fax her the address? What time did Teresa call Barb's answering machine?
I wanna know about his other nephew. The one who had his computer taken by the police and they found all sorts of insane search results. And then the cops basically didn't do anything about it. And he made some sort of deal with them that if he testified against Avery then nothing would come of his computer.
Candace isn’t allowed to speculate what’s going on in the next person brain who is She God OMg Candace get out of here make this make sense
Neither was Making A Murderer. Convicting A Murderer is better in my opinion because they lay out ALL the story. Now, the Nation can see and reach its own conclusions like MaM claims it did. I promise you no lawsuit will fly.
Well, the van was barb's. And besides, it was not the first time there was an appt. By the name yanda. Around October 19 or so, Janda Tom had an hustle shot with TH.
For the 100th time. Crushing the car made no sense and leaving it there with his blood in it made even less sense. He ran out of time to check the car for blood ? All he had to do was drive the car off the property and that would have matched his story that he saw her drive away. He felt safe enough to leave the car there and go to Crivitz . Why ? because he had made a commitment to his family . Sure LOL
The person would need to know the lot to park it there, they say, after Colburn had said he was a regular customer…
Bobby Dassey was moving the RAV 4 by a postman. This is part of the new evidence which Zellner is presenting to the court to have the new hearing.
I THINK! I think I’m a 6ft model, but I’m not. All the assumptions are not evidence. LE know they are complicit in the conviction of both Steven and Brendan. Candace is trying to be a investigative reporter, she has failed !
Did Andy notice the cut on SA's finger when he talked to him. Just so interesting how Andy shows up at the oddest of times. Andy : Steve : Do you have a tail light for a 60 Ford ? Steve No Andy what do you know about TH ? Sure
The female producer spoke to two Avery supporters about the inconsistencies and said matteroffactly that Avery told police (colburn) he didnt talk to her. Colburn could have been lying.
The zipperers being reinterviewed could have cast a bit more suspicion on them so is it that bad MaM didn’t mention it?
The Four Tops said it best.
Now it's the same old song
But with a different meaning since you been gone
Now it's the same old song
But with a different meaning since you been gone
And it breaks me up to hear it
I, oh I.
I’ve always thought that he was guilty, however, I do not think it happened where the police say it did. There would’ve been so much blood to clean up, so where is all the blood? Did they do it somewhere else on the property?
Thats 15 seconds makes no sense
Still waiting on BD,RH,SB&ST etc... to speak with evidence & docs & maybe the Halbach's letting them examine the bones, or all around video of the Rav 4, you know something like that!⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️👍 this is not a documentary it's a Dr. Phill show!!!
Yeah, and Candice plays the doctor...
😂
you mean the bones that were only possibly human but given back to the Halbach's in 2012 when KZ wanted to examine them. Those bones ?
@@jamescrane7034 yes, those bones, then there would be no question mark if they were animal or human. It's a fact she had a test to find out and why she didn't, I don't know. Well maybe she is going to explain that in CAM, what do you think 🤔
I would love someone to get a hold of aerial footage from November the 4 I love to see the if the Rav4 was there on November the 4 and probably how the cops knew to tell POG where to go
I’d love to see something like that!
I was just thinking that today
@@newscott come on over to Foul Play, they have a lot of info
If they knew where to go it would have taken 5 minutes. You could say they knew if it would have taken 1 hour and 10 minutes. 30 minutes is quite a while when you're simply looking for one vehicle. Drive by a parking lot and see how long it takes to find a white mini van. If I were the detective, I'd tell them to make their way toward the car crusher.
And remember, the RAV-4 was a pretty unique color compared to red or white, for example. When you're looking for one color, one vehicle type (small SUV, mini blazer type) then your mind can exclude very quickly all the smaller cars, the vans, pickups and you can very quickly cover an area. Plus, it was very unique because it was covered. That would stick out.
What will they come up with next.
She doesn’t know if she’s going…
or
she doesn’t know where she’s going…?
BIG difference- “if” doesn’t mean she didn’t know it was steven. If” meant she didn’t know if she was going because he hadn’t given her the address yet…
Where” still doesn’t mean she didn’t know it was him it again means she just hasn’t been given the address yet… This proves nothing.
You are so cool, Scott!!!
Sorry, slow down, I'm trying to save $34 million, need to try keep fitting him up, I pray for them
Yes! It makes much more sense why he asked if Steven was in custody. I’ve been a Steven supporter for years and convicting a murder is making me feel like such a fool!
If Steven was not guilty, then why did he not use Brendan as his alibi that night? Steven denies that he burnt anything or had a bonfire that night over and over again. His neighbors saw the smoke. The first time that Steven admits to having the bonfire was during a phone conversation with barb while he was in jail. Steven says Brendan came over, they had the bonfire, and Brendan went home when Jody called around 9:00. If what Steven told barb was true, then why did Steven not use Brendan for his alibi that night? You can't use your accomplice as an alibi that's why.
The phone calls that day were recorded by the jail cause Jodi called twice that day once around 530pm and again around 8:45pm
🙏 He is guilty since he is locked up for it! Otherwise this could be the most horrific event to ever happen to an innocent man. This could be any one of us!!
I think Pam finding the car makes sense with her being a PI. I could see her being able to pick a smarter path of searching.
Still think the 15 seconds mean nothing...
I just am curious about the inconsistent statements part. They say Steve came out and told Earl's inlaw around 430 that Teresa never showed up. He just happened to casually come out of his parents house and say that you know in the middle of torturing and killing a woman...oh and calling her phone "trying to find it" at the same time.. seriously 😂. You don't even need everything left out of both documentaries to see the BS.
What BS? Steven's inconsistencies? 1: He said "she never arrived" to 3 different people --- His bro in front of said in-law, to her roommate and to an operator at auto trader. 2: "She did arrive but he only saw her out the window taking pictures of the van, he didn't talk to her 3: She knocked on his door, came in and he paid her inside the trailer 4: She was walking toward his trailer (as Bobby had stated) and so he walked to her vehicle and he paid her there. 5. ?? Listen to the TV interviews. They're closer to this final account. 5.b: He told her cousin that she took pictures of a vehicle behind the office garage and said nothing about the maroon van. 6 He said he didn't burn anything that night (LIE) and never mentioned being with Brendan (fact omitted) or anything about cleaning a red stain or driving in the golf cart to get tires, a seat, a cabinet, etc. These were uncovered by witnesses. He hadn't burned anything in 2 weeks? Robert Fabian said the burning barrel in front of Avery's was smoking and smelt like burning plastic --- In his final interview on the 9th of Nov, Avery was asked, "Did you burn anything that night?" And he said, "NO!!" In a jail call to his mom, he said he told his lawyer about Bobby and Brendan and she asked, "WHY!!??" And Steven Avery said, "Because Bobby saw her out there and Brendan was with me at the fire. Not to mention all the inconsistencies in the jail calls about how he got the cut on his hand. Trust me, there are at least 5 different versions.
@@moo-z137 I was going off what was in CAM. They say nothing about SA talking to her roommate or Auto trader? Not to mention the other inconsistencies come from police reports filed at later dates. The Fabian timeline makes zero sense because supposedly Brendan did even get to the assult until 345 but SA was coming out of his parents house around 430, when he was also called THs phone?
@@LeeAnnBarterson I can't vouch for them until I see it all. I'm going off the court docs, police reports, police interviews and jail calls. I can only guess since I wasn't there and since the biggest inconsistencies have come from Avery, Dassey, the defense side, MaM and the conspiracy side but I will just guess that she was dead by the time Dassey got there or she was killed soon after that. Fabian said that when they drove to Avery's trailer at 5, which Steven has confirmed, Avery had showered and was wearing different clothes than before. His brother said, at that time, Avery was acting very weird.
@@moo-z137 well if she was dead before Brendan got there I hope they at least give him parole.
@@LeeAnnBarterson Yes, he does not belong in there. It's both sad and horrifying at the same time.
yall acting like steven was a genius the point is steven believed he was smart n planned this creepy date and his creepy date he had in mind didnt but turned out how he was not smart n the date he thought would turn out and he was wrong n he snapped
Not a genius just smart enough to get rid of every single bit of her DNA but leave his own everywhere...hahahahahahe was framed!!!!!!!!!
The appointment was with him they are just taking pictures of the car to list, it does not matter who the owner of the car is, it makes no sense to say any other name because the car is not being sold right then obviously the owner of the car does not need to be there. There is little doubt to me he lured her out there the *67, using his sisters name, the previous odd encounter she had with him, and him specifically asking for her to come. You mention the director says Avery uses *67 because Avery does not want any direct connection and of course that makes sense if he has hidden motive not sure why you think this does not make sense? She would have not gone if she knew it was him so going through other routs it hides who she is meeting up with. Your also just guessing he was planning on murdering her, I actually just think he was trying to get her out there to make moves on her and after her rejecting him he got forceful and went downhill from there. Your projecting a lot of what you would do, me personally I'm not sure what I would do but I can easily see her be like damn I drove all the way out here I thought I was dealing with his sister lets just get this over with so I can get paid. After the shoot who knows what he said to lure her into the home "I have your money in the house, you want a drink, I need your signature for my sister on this document in my house, ect ect who knows. IF every person was always rational the amount of crimes would be close to zero. As for the lady finding the car not that big of a deal to me she did walk straight ahead some people work from the back forward and some opposite so she started from the back and found it, it's also different then finding a needle in a haystack you are looking for a specific car you could probably almost run through the lot and find what you are looking for pretty quick if its there, that is totally different from knowing the lot and where a open space is to hide a car on the lot and debris around it.
Oh, BTW, Scott. Don't you know? It wasn't "luck." Oh no, "IT WAS GOD...". HA! HA! 😂
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Not if she thought she was going to do business with his SISTER.
Guilty guilty guilty. So glad he’s where he belongs.!
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I can’t wait till it’s on a channel that’s more well known I was going to watch but they $144. Now not made of money. Been following since beginning
They have a monthly option that’s $14 and you can cancel anytime. That’s the one I went with.
is that for the whole series ? @@newscott
100% the car was planted, and they purposely took the battery cables out, so they knew that no one could move it.
This is going to go on and on someone's going to make a film on both videos next its all about the publicity and money
He raped his niece.what about that? What about the fact he kids didn't want anything to do with his ?
I doubt he raped his niece
I am NOT looking forward to the brendon Dassey part they are just going to take snips from his confession. I have listened to ALL of the interviews and confession tapes and I still cannot make up my mind i believe nobody could watch them entirely and be 100% sure of what happened and wether he is guilty or not
I've watched the interviews too and they are beyond frustrating because he won't give a straight answer. But I do believe Steven did it and Brendan came into it at some point and helped with some things. Steven groomed him for years and I feel bad that Brendan got wrapped into this. I believe he should've taken his plea deal.
@amandablack9026 Steven was in prison for a crime he didn't commit for the first 14 years of Brendan's life. How did he "groom" him for years?
@@johneckert1365 Stop asking common sense questions. Such things are not allowed in the comments section
@mistressmendi2168 LOL you're not kidding 😂
@mistressmendi2168 I think alot of these comment producers are fake tbh
I think he did it.
You talk as if S Avery wasn’t clearly… intellectually limited… and as if everyone’s choices should make complete sense.
What you looking at is Defeat and he went HARD with Kathleen Zellner saying this Bastard was innocent.
Ahhhh painful to watch you need to accept when your wrong newscott .! Your on a sinkin shipp bro..candace is systematically taking apartt the case one by one
Facts. But this is necessary to demonstrate the characteristics of the human being. Scott is no better than Zellner. Zellner is a liar. I know this personally because I was a former client.ruclips.net/video/T7vsbHKxOxw/видео.htmlsi=mK1KU0d0uz6noo4M
The cognitive dissonance required to believe Avery is innocent is mind blowing. Making a Murderer has absolutely brainwashed a lot of people 😂
Thank you! Everything points to him! EVERYTHING...but we will pick at all the insane possibilities
@@amandablack9026how does everything point to him? Please elaborate. I don’t think people with common sense and logic allow any documentary to brainwash themself, but there’s a lot of funky strange things that happened. To say everything points to him is lazy and exudes lack of research and knowledge on said subject
Cognitive dissonance to what? I had no opinion of Avery (hadn’t even heard of him) prior to seeing the original doc.
@@jaypoll20 1. He changed his story before she was even called in missing. This is after Bobby told him he'd seen her walking toward his door. His first story was that she hadn't made it out there yet. (to at least 3 people) 2. Avery said he only saw her out his window but didn't speak to her. That means he didn't get paid in these first 2 stories. 3. She knocked on his door, he let her in and he paid her inside 4. She paid him at her vehicle. This is closer to what he's claimed thereafter -- there's another one close to this but I'll leave that one out. 5. He told her cousin that she'd taken pictures of a vehicle behind the office garage but said nothing about the van. 6. He denied having a fire long before her remains and burned electronics were ever found. 7. He said he was in his house by 9 but if you listen to the 9 o clock Jodi call, he was outside. His sister and others confirmed that him and Dassey were both by the fire but they said none of this during their interviews. 8. His blood was found inside her vehicle. 9. A .22 round that scientifically was proven to be shot from his .22 that he said he'd never shot ... that had been locked away since Nov 6th ... was found a few feet away from a RED PUDDLE they'd cleaned but that was also left out of their interviews (since they weren't together that night cough cough) -- as we all know, it has Teressa's DNA on it. 10. He later admitted to most of this; the fire, Dassey and him being together, Bobby seeing her out there, the cleaning of the red puddle, Bob Fabian being by his trailer at 5, etc -- and all those shell casings he tried to say it was his nephew and he'd just throw them in the garage but again, they were all proven to only have been shot from one gun; his .22 ... so again, he had to change his story. "Oh, it was Jodi." If you listen to the jail calls, you'll hear at least a few different stories about the cut on his hand. Not just minor changes, major ones; completely different locations. And I'm not talking about him re-opening it on Wednesday. 11. Her bones that are all accounted for were found in the pit behind his garage, besides the 2 parts moves to the Dassey burn barrel. Her electronics were found in his burn barrel. Bob Fabian said that barrel was smoking at 5 and smelled like burning plastic. Someone else said they saw him putting a white bag into that burn barrel. Remember, he hadn't burned anything in 2 weeks. Listen to his last interview on Nov 9th. They'd already found her remains and her electronics but he didn't know that. So they asked, "Did you burn anything that night?" "NO!!" 12. Her vehicle was found on the Avery Salvage Yard with Avery's blood and Teressa's blood in it. It had been covered up, as we all know and the license plates removed. The plates were recovered by one of the volunteer firefighters searching for her body. 13. The key to her vehicle was found in his bedroom. That key, btw, was confirmed to be how it had been found months prior to the disappearance by one of her friends who'd driven the car. She said she only had the one key on the key fob. That key fob was a gift from Teressa's sister. I'm not one bit concerned about DNA because it's so easy to get rid of DNA. You can literally soak then rince an item in water and bye bye DNA. Bleach was most likely used because that's how it appeared under examination, same with her steering wheel and shifter. And maybe the .22 as well because that had been wiped clean. 14. The stuff on the Dassey computer was found out by Avery himself. That's how they later got a warrant to search it, because Avery said there was a bunch of porn and shit on there. 15. Avery's brothers and dad knew Avery was guilty right off the bat. Listen to the jail calls. 16. Someday I'll go through the jail calls again and I'll take more careful notes. I know there is a call where Barb is bitching Avery out because she didn't want to sell the van. I heard it with my own ear holes. She wanted to let one of her kids drive it.
@@amandablack9026The only bullshit evidence that points to Steven just so happens to have been found by the scum police who were due to pay him 36 mill. That's a pretty funny coincidence!!
It blows my mind that the shitty *evidence* took 10 days and 8 searches of the property 😂😂😂.
Steven Avery is an idiot, murderer or not
Another thing CAM zeroed in on was the fact Avery left work that day early and never returned. Just another coincidence??
Also a friend of the Avery's testified that at around 4:45 pm, he was at the salvage yard and heard Avery tell his brother that "the photographer" hadn't arrived. Just another inconsistency or a murderer trying to cover his tracks?
😆😆😆 soooo what YOUR saying (which I’ve heard this “testimony”) that SA WASNT IN his trailer with TH at this time “doing the deed”? Which is why this can’t be used for the prosecutions narrative. The time line wouldn’t work. SMH. 😂😂😂
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What THE FRIEND said was Avery said Teresa didn't arrive yet. Clearly she had. So why would he lie about that? Unless of course he killed her.
@@thedarkknightrises330 like I said… which punches a hole in the prosecutions narrative and puts a big hole in the timeline. Because if she hadn’t “shown up yet” according to the friend, then what did Bobby Dassey see? Which happened around 3:00. He’s the states Star witness! His testimony was the critical point for the timeline in the prosecution.
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She had shown up already! Avery SAID she hadn't yet. He was lying. Why? Because he had killed her already.
@@thedarkknightrises330 so SA had already killed her, cleaned up, hid the car, did something with he body, got all that other nonsense done between 3:00 and 4:45? AND THEN told him he hasn’t seen the photographer yet? Okay. Wow that’s a lot to get done in a short amount of time. Where is all your proof of all this?
Scott, your kind of spinning in circles here. Using *67 and giving a false name are clear forms of deception. If all he wanted was to have pictures taken, why all the trickery??
BTW Richard, speaking of trickery, check out RICHARD BOYD'S video "Guardian life insurance...." There he reveals CaM showed the "missing person poster" but concealed what was on the bottom by cutting off the view. It appears they didn't want anyone to see it had been printed September 2nd, a day BEFORE Teresa was reported missing. It was printet by the YES organization (Ken Kratz/ board of directors) also, he discusses Brendan's statement about Steven's mail. Richard Boyd has another video challenging Candy or anyone to replicate Steven burning a body. That one is called PROVE IT. He uses crude language but gets straight to the point. He has a lot of videos about the deceptive editing by CaM.
Anyone know where i can watch convicting a murderer for free?
Candy? Lol she responds to a few tweets and it's Candy now? You dog!
She is sweet.
@@jamiehayes325 I would..
No! You're the dog. Only a dog would disrespect someone who has NEVER disrespected them because of their point of view. Unfortunately, your rage at Candace won't stop the onward march of the TRUTH, that ya boy Killed Teresa.