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I say it's fair. if Cross already deleted 'that' gun, any future godrolls he gets of that gun have deletion immunity, since he already deleted that gun once before.
I have had poor luck with rose rolls. 68 is the max range I have gotten and one of them has full bore. My other 68 range rose has snapshot and quickdraw which is basically useless to me on a high handling hand cannon like rose. I want a 73 range rose with slideshot and EOTS or explosive payload. I have had better luck with Mercurial and Belasarius. My first focused Mercurial was a 4/5 roll, only thing missing was handling masterwork mine has relaod. Getting hammer forged with Accurized and a range masterwork just isn't happening for me.
What I've learned from watching these Trials vids is that if I started playing trials, all of you would realize there's a new guy in the queue pretty much immediately. HEY, HEY, LOOK. WE GOT SIXTEEN PEOPLE IN THE ROTATION NOW. LOOK AT THAT GUY.
That's only when ur a good player tho. There's plenty of average people on normally but when ur a better player the game only has a small pool of people who they can make a fair game out of. It won't be like this for everyone... copefully
im using all my wishes for lost mementos, so my collection of perfectly crafted austringers can feel and look good, and nobody can stop me, not even those filthy roses
you are lucky, mine has hammer forged/slide/explosive/heavy grip/range mw, but flared magwell, no accurized 😢 if it had smallbore accurized/smooth grip it would be a perfect 5/5
I’ve got a rose roll with Chambered Conpensator, Steady Rounds, Moving Target, Explosive Payload, Heavy Grip and a Stability masterwork. With all that its stability is at 90 and it feels great!
I just this this exact same Rose today... I am a new player and very happy the RNG blessed me after 2 hard months of grinding for this Rose. Crucible finally paid off! I look forward to putting it to the test in Iron Banner.
I just got smallbore, accurized, slideshot, eots, and range mw. 70 range, 62 stability roll. Can switch grips too for 52 stability and 70 handling or the 62 stability and 50 handling. Usually use polymer grip for the 70 handling. 52 stability with 70 range riiiiips
The one thing that I love about Aztecross versus other D2 content creators is the lengths that he goes to in order to validate weapon data and damage stats to provide a point of comparison for people looking to get a similar gun or reach a similar level of skill. The fact that he'll do several LFG trials runs as well to ensure validity of god rolls is actually insane to me. I know its part of his job as a streamer, but damn this man is committed. I don't even care about Rose and I'm still sitting here watching this full video while I type up articles at work.
My favorite roll I have is hammer forged, Accurized, range mw, moving target, explosive. Max range intrinsics without penalties and the crispness of moving target it hits very nicely
Cross is the reason I get all the Ultra Mega Sweat Trials players all the time. If I match up against half of his lobbies I dont think Id have this deep hatred for Comp PvP. It sucks because Im addicted and I cant quit.
I have a hammer forged or small bore, accurized rounds or steady rounds with slide shot and exsplosive with smooth or combat grip . It has a range mw i think . Without procing slide shot im setting at 79range with the ballistics mod. I also have a slide shot opening shot and a rapid hit explosive and a slide shot snap shot. All have good mags and barrels i farmed comp a shit tone
I wanted the pve godroll of Rapid Hit/Explosive Payload but the game gave me Extended Barrel/Chambered Compensator, Extended Mag/Stead Rounds and Heavy Grip/Smooth Grip with a handling MW. Every single barrel, mag, and grip has a stat penalty on it so my hc has doodoo stats. Haven't gotten a single same roll since
@@Youngboyadept my other roll of rose has hammer forged, accurized rounds, perpetual motion, opening shot, heavy grip and stability masterwork. I would trade u the slideshot explosive payload one for like a explosive payload incandescent zaoulis bane cuz I’m a pve main
I bet if you went and checked those guys were on their first games on your game 7. I’ve noticed more times than not my first game is the enemies is flawless game
I dunno where u get to match with opponent like 1:30 but trust me, every time i find myself in that kind of situation, 12/10 the guy sliding out HAS a shottie. Does not matter where he is but the shottie guy is ALWAYS there, right place right time. And of cos he one shot you. Either that or the guy coming round the corner is a TITAN and ALREADY has his finger on his shoulder charge.
I go flawless multiple times every weekend while solo. The fireteam matchmaking is so fucked. Always end up getting put against 2.3-2.8 kd’s which isn’t very fun with my kd being 1.4 so I play it solo and have no problems
Mine dropped last week, and I love it. Range masterwork, slide and explosive 78 Range!. Ridiculous. Flinches hard and AOE for some fun cover bashing. ;)
@@Logan-tw7wvif your garbage then what are people who use xim and chronus No matter how bad you might be At least what you achieve is yours unlike some people who have to cheat
Man just farm comp till ur a high rank and then u can get loads I get between 6-7 every week since it was focusable and haven’t had a single decent one. Almost always drops with vorpal weapon it sucks
I actually got 2 Explosive Payload rolls (one with Elemental Capacitor and one with Quickdraw) and a Slideshot EP and they feel phenomenal. I'm still hot ass with them, but they are amazing
Hammer fordged, accurized rounds, slideshot, explosive payload, combat grip, range masterwork. It feels good, just a matter of my aim on any given day is just always a hair off, like ill give free haircuts kinda off 😂
Was absolutely trash at destiny PvP. Got my first Rose slideshot explosive and was first almost every game with 3+ KD and got my first flawless with it. It’s a god of weapon.
Well.... Looks like im gonna try for this roll then..... What were the grips though? My best rose i have now is QD & opening shot with textured grip.... I really want a slideshot roll too 🤙
Firebase Delphi was where i would THROW DOWN. Gloves off bare knuckle Pound Town Lightning Grenades on that map were my bread and butter, especially on that center ring
It wasn't actually as bad as i expected this week, tbh it was actually one of my best weeks. I ran bakris build with phyllotactic spiral and conditional. Cant wait for the changes tho hopefully it puts a dent on threadling and smg usage. I have a godroll rose i can use because of the cringe meta rn.
Honestly I prefer rapid/explosive or moving/explosive over slide shot I really don’t care about slide shot I don’t slide a lot unless I have a stompee/shotgun or titan/shottie maybe even tranverse void warlock shottie but yea that’s the only time I’m sliding for a gun fight
I have a rose with explosive payload and it doesn’t feel to great for controller but im hoping once i get that slideshot roll that extra stability will help, stability does help with the guns recoil right?
Wish I had that same matchmaking luck, haven't been to the lighthouse in either d1 or d2. I'm glad when trials opened for solo-queue but it hasn't helped me.
I main a hammerforged, Accurized, elemental, snapshot, smooth grip, range MW on void titan. Snappy 73 range 70 stability roll. 35m before damage drop off fro private match testing.
Is there a way to check out his load out from these games on DIM? Been trying to find new load outs and I'm testing a bunch out, his seems to work pretty well for him so I'd like to try it too!
I’ve got the same roll! With handling master work. Wish it was range, doesn’t beat one clear fact, if your bad at the game. Like me, No god roll can help 😅
I have a very similar roll (range master work and polymer grip on mine). And I never liked slideshot….but this Rose is making me a believer in slideshot. She changed my mind.
@chincemagnet what would you say is the best way to wield such a beast? I have this exact roll, but it's in the vault. I have a rapid hit/explosive that I've been using the fxck out of lol
@13:00 jokes on you Cross you're going to go on vacation soon, and set up a goldfish to Stream for your while you away, and it's going to delete all your Godrolls
I haven't been lucky to get this roll! :( however my hammerforged, accurized, moving target, eye of the storm roll with a stability masterwork is a thing of beauty! Feels like aimbot 😍
Brother my rng is dog ass, been focusing roses for ages, even grinded to plat for extra focuses and so far my best roll in like a year is fullbore, accurized, slide shot, ep, smooth grip, so close yet so far
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I’m sorry cross, my rose roll is the EXACT SAME AS YOURS 😂😂😂😂😂
Ok how much did u pay bungo to let u have easy lobbies and let u use a VPN how much did u pay
I say it's fair. if Cross already deleted 'that' gun, any future godrolls he gets of that gun have deletion immunity, since he already deleted that gun once before.
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I have had poor luck with rose rolls. 68 is the max range I have gotten and one of them has full bore. My other 68 range rose has snapshot and quickdraw which is basically useless to me on a high handling hand cannon like rose. I want a 73 range rose with slideshot and EOTS or explosive payload. I have had better luck with Mercurial and Belasarius. My first focused Mercurial was a 4/5 roll, only thing missing was handling masterwork mine has relaod. Getting hammer forged with Accurized and a range masterwork just isn't happening for me.
You know the playlist needs more players when you recognize like half the randoms from your own matches.
It's almost like the game needed a 'renewed focus on PVP' about 3 years ago :P
yeah but now its too late imo, i know people hate the talk but it should be gutted@@atomic_wait
I like finding out you’ve been playing the same exact people, when you go to give commendations. Lol
@@IAmWhiteEagle If Pvp got taken out of the game, so many people wouldnt play anymore.
@@SilverSpider44 lol look at the player count, they've already left.
What I've learned from watching these Trials vids is that if I started playing trials, all of you would realize there's a new guy in the queue pretty much immediately. HEY, HEY, LOOK. WE GOT SIXTEEN PEOPLE IN THE ROTATION NOW. LOOK AT THAT GUY.
LMAO fr tho, with the new changes coming, i might also start playing Trials (I'm a PvE Cave Dweller)
@@Lycanthropean720pls do, we all need more pve jims to shit on
That's only when ur a good player tho. There's plenty of average people on normally but when ur a better player the game only has a small pool of people who they can make a fair game out of. It won't be like this for everyone... copefully
Got mine and immediately went from a .5 of to a .500001 hell yeah
That’s huge! Nice :)
Damn that .000001 gonna affect ur ttk so badly
😂 hey, an improvement is still one, no matter how small 🤙
That's what my wife says.@@kbrownfocus
im using all my wishes for lost mementos, so my collection of perfectly crafted austringers can feel and look good, and nobody can stop me, not even those filthy roses
Cross getting all the bots now 😭
wtf are these opponents he is getting? In all my games, I was facing olympians while Cross gets people who were born yesterday.
People don’t post gameplay against players they struggle against
Loose KD loose ranks, you will get too
I faced 18 people last weekend with a 3200 elo. I’ve got like 2300
Is moving target and explosive payload any worth keeping or should I try to go for that slide shot roll
@@haters2119 slide would be better, but that is still a great role. What’s your barrel, mag, and masterwork
I've got that same roll with hammer forged, range mw, smooth grip. I'm never getting a better one, but still pulling for rolls. Rose is so good.
The one i have has hammer forged, accurized, slide shot and EP, smooth grip and Range masterwork
No full bore, delete. Ggs
you are lucky, mine has hammer forged/slide/explosive/heavy grip/range mw, but flared magwell, no accurized 😢 if it had smallbore accurized/smooth grip it would be a perfect 5/5
Glad to see I'm not the only one who killed myself this weekend throwing my grenade into the wall 😂
It happens to the best of us brother 😔
I’ve got a rose roll with Chambered Conpensator, Steady Rounds, Moving Target, Explosive Payload, Heavy Grip and a Stability masterwork. With all that its stability is at 90 and it feels great!
Got the same roll but with elemental capacitor and range masterwork
Man, I wish I was better with 140’s. I can only use 120’s effectively in crucible.
Start by slowing down the shot just a little. Don't spam shot after shot.
"what was I hitting? not him..." literally me 😭
I just this this exact same Rose today... I am a new player and very happy the RNG blessed me after 2 hard months of grinding for this Rose. Crucible finally paid off!
I look forward to putting it to the test in Iron Banner.
Can confirm. Slideshot/EP Rose made me a 3.5 overnight. I have also gained more confidence.
I just got smallbore, accurized, slideshot, eots, and range mw. 70 range, 62 stability roll. Can switch grips too for 52 stability and 70 handling or the 62 stability and 50 handling. Usually use polymer grip for the 70 handling. 52 stability with 70 range riiiiips
My rose has Full bore, accurized rounds, QuickDraw, snapshot sights, and polymer grip. Range masterwork
I love the twitch dynamic where cross and us just bully eachother through chat
Firebase Delphi was really fun even for trials. Tho i do dislike the roatating doors for "competitive" modes
The one thing that I love about Aztecross versus other D2 content creators is the lengths that he goes to in order to validate weapon data and damage stats to provide a point of comparison for people looking to get a similar gun or reach a similar level of skill. The fact that he'll do several LFG trials runs as well to ensure validity of god rolls is actually insane to me. I know its part of his job as a streamer, but damn this man is committed. I don't even care about Rose and I'm still sitting here watching this full video while I type up articles at work.
My favorite roll I have is hammer forged, Accurized, range mw, moving target, explosive. Max range intrinsics without penalties and the crispness of moving target it hits very nicely
I have a moving target EP roll and I like it. I’m not much of a HC user but I dig the aimbot it provides.
Cross is the reason I get all the Ultra Mega Sweat Trials players all the time. If I match up against half of his lobbies I dont think Id have this deep hatred for Comp PvP. It sucks because Im addicted and I cant quit.
I just got this from focusing from Shaxx yesterday LOL
I have a hammer forged or small bore, accurized rounds or steady rounds with slide shot and exsplosive with smooth or combat grip . It has a range mw i think . Without procing slide shot im setting at 79range with the ballistics mod. I also have a slide shot opening shot and a rapid hit explosive and a slide shot snap shot. All have good mags and barrels i farmed comp a shit tone
So happy the editor used "The Chase" from Epidemic Sound. It's a good soundtrack!
I’ve focused over 70 roses and haven’t even got ep+slideshot to drop let alone the right barrels etc
My first roll was slideshot explosive payload somehow😂😂😂
@@covidsurvivor2039 I wish they would add trading, id trade you my found verdict or sum 😂
I wanted the pve godroll of Rapid Hit/Explosive Payload but the game gave me
Extended Barrel/Chambered Compensator, Extended Mag/Stead Rounds and Heavy Grip/Smooth Grip with a handling MW. Every single barrel, mag, and grip has a stat penalty on it so my hc has doodoo stats. Haven't gotten a single same roll since
@@Youngboyadept it’s god a handling masterwork tho…
@@Youngboyadept my other roll of rose has hammer forged, accurized rounds, perpetual motion, opening shot, heavy grip and stability masterwork. I would trade u the slideshot explosive payload one for like a explosive payload incandescent zaoulis bane cuz I’m a pve main
I bet if you went and checked those guys were on their first games on your game 7. I’ve noticed more times than not my first game is the enemies is flawless game
my exact roll, but i got the range MW. this and my igneous are the only two weapons i think about now that i'm not playing, thing was a beast
I dropped a smallbore, accurised, slideshot, explosive, smooth grip & range MW last night. Mint, wipes the floor with any other ive had!
I have two with some very good rolls one being rapid hit explosive payload and the other being rapid hit eye of the storm
No full bore and range masterwork.
3/5
Get back in there, Cross.
Eh, full bore is not my fav pick anymore. Smallbore is my personal pref
full bore is not needed bro
Full bore is mid what?
Jim comment. Fullbore is the worst barrel.
Full bore is two full packs of ass 🗣️🔥
i have full bore accurized rounds, slideshot, explosive payload, and a range masterwork on mine😍
I dunno where u get to match with opponent like 1:30 but trust me, every time i find myself in that kind of situation, 12/10 the guy sliding out HAS a shottie. Does not matter where he is but the shottie guy is ALWAYS there, right place right time. And of cos he one shot you.
Either that or the guy coming round the corner is a TITAN and ALREADY has his finger on his shoulder charge.
I go flawless multiple times every weekend while solo. The fireteam matchmaking is so fucked. Always end up getting put against 2.3-2.8 kd’s which isn’t very fun with my kd being 1.4 so I play it solo and have no problems
My crafted revision zero took me to the light house this weekend, but the igneous hammer i got wasn't worth it 😢 (also a solo player)
This is pain bruh
My favorite roll on this gun I've got was slideshot+eye of the storm
Mine dropped last week, and I love it. Range masterwork, slide and explosive 78 Range!. Ridiculous. Flinches hard and AOE for some fun cover bashing. ;)
This is almost the exact roll I've been sitting on since Rose's second week in rotation (and the only one I've ever gotten). Feels good.
Doesn't help that I'm garbage though.
@@Logan-tw7wvif your garbage then what are people who use xim and chronus
No matter how bad you might be
At least what you achieve is yours unlike some people who have to cheat
Man just farm comp till ur a high rank and then u can get loads
I get between 6-7 every week since it was focusable and haven’t had a single decent one. Almost always drops with vorpal weapon it sucks
I actually got 2 Explosive Payload rolls (one with Elemental Capacitor and one with Quickdraw) and a Slideshot EP and they feel phenomenal. I'm still hot ass with them, but they are amazing
I have this exact role. But with smallbore and range mw.
slideshot explosive is the first roll I got on it and the only one ive ever used
Hammer fordged, accurized rounds, slideshot, explosive payload, combat grip, range masterwork. It feels good, just a matter of my aim on any given day is just always a hair off, like ill give free haircuts kinda off 😂
I'm not too hot on a park like Slideshot. Mostly because I don't do much sliding in PvP.
But I guess it works for someone like Cross.
Got one too, apart from mine has full bore. Love it regardless
Was absolutely trash at destiny PvP. Got my first Rose slideshot explosive and was first almost every game with 3+ KD and got my first flawless with it. It’s a god of weapon.
Hammer forged
Accurized Rounds
Slideshot
Opening Shot
Range masterwork.
Well.... Looks like im gonna try for this roll then..... What were the grips though? My best rose i have now is QD & opening shot with textured grip.... I really want a slideshot roll too 🤙
i have an identical roll except a reload masterwork instead of handling
After clutching a 2v3 on my flawless game last weekend (other guy carried, no lies) I felt those guys pain.
Firebase Delphi was where i would THROW DOWN. Gloves off bare knuckle Pound Town
Lightning Grenades on that map were my bread and butter, especially on that center ring
Is explosive still broken? Like not 3 tapping?
Good roll for sure. Hated this week of Trials though, fell at the gates 2 times and played 60ish games to not make it. First time this season I failed
It wasn't actually as bad as i expected this week, tbh it was actually one of my best weeks. I ran bakris build with phyllotactic spiral and conditional. Cant wait for the changes tho hopefully it puts a dent on threadling and smg usage. I have a godroll rose i can use because of the cringe meta rn.
Whats the range on yours?
With Crit dmg getting buffed but body shot dmg getting nerfed, do they cancel each other out with weapons with Explosive Payload?
Honestly I prefer rapid/explosive or moving/explosive over slide shot I really don’t care about slide shot I don’t slide a lot unless I have a stompee/shotgun or titan/shottie maybe even tranverse void warlock shottie but yea that’s the only time I’m sliding for a gun fight
I have a rose with explosive payload and it doesn’t feel to great for controller but im hoping once i get that slideshot roll that extra stability will help, stability does help with the guns recoil right?
Yeah
Wish I had that same matchmaking luck, haven't been to the lighthouse in either d1 or d2. I'm glad when trials opened for solo-queue but it hasn't helped me.
Will they fix the Explosive Payload issue in checkmate in future? Because it can't 3 taps headshot enemy player
I thought my roll was okay at best. Same perks and mag, option of fluted or full bore range Mw and polymer grip. It does feel good though ngl
I main a hammerforged, Accurized, elemental, snapshot, smooth grip, range MW on void titan.
Snappy 73 range 70 stability roll.
35m before damage drop off fro private match testing.
Man ele cap I reckon is such an underrated perk, especially for void mains. That stability buff is pretty damn good
Is there a way to check out his load out from these games on DIM? Been trying to find new load outs and I'm testing a bunch out, his seems to work pretty well for him so I'd like to try it too!
Isn’t explosive payload going to suck after the march 5 patch?
12:52 You’re learning!
Cross uploading like a mad man! Love it! Haha
Great words of wisdom, kill everything and don't die.
6:30 I’ve been playing this game all wrong 😂
Can anyone help me how people swap to Shotgun that fast
i've deleted 3 of those rolls. I prefer opening shot over explosive and elm cap/ moving target over slide shot
I have that exact roll but main my Perpetual Motion/EP roll. Will Explosive Payload be nerfed with the update due to the decrease in body shot damage?
yes
I got that roll with Range Masterwork!
I’ve been using a moving target, vorpal rose. Garbage roll, but legitimately the best feeling and easiest to use HC I’ve played with.
As a pve main who avoids pvp, I’ll definitely try pvp again with the new changes coming. We need blueberry pvp builds though.
I can't find where to get it, where do I get the hand cannon? I love the story of thorn and want to rock a build of Yor and Rezyl
You can focus it at shaxx in the legacy weapons pool with crucible engrams after completing your competitive crucible placement matches
What shader is on that beauty??
I’ve got the same roll! With handling master work. Wish it was range, doesn’t beat one clear fact, if your bad at the game. Like me, No god roll can help 😅
Sorry cross I got textured grip, range MW and small bore/fullbore
I got that role on my first try and I hate explosive palode but slide shot alright I prefer quick draw eye of the storm
Forget about guns for a bit. Can you get some info on the radio tales number 8 and the secret mission closer to the heart what is going on with that
I have a very similar roll (range master work and polymer grip on mine). And I never liked slideshot….but this Rose is making me a believer in slideshot. She changed my mind.
i used to not like slideshot too, but it definitely has potential if you train yourself to use it correctly
@chincemagnet what would you say is the best way to wield such a beast? I have this exact roll, but it's in the vault. I have a rapid hit/explosive that I've been using the fxck out of lol
Nah we gotta talk about that Godroll protection thing, shouldn't be more than 3 weapons, put a tag on DIM, but everything else gotta be fair game
Honestly the Rose isn't the reason he's doing good here, it's the overpowered void titan.
@13:00 jokes on you Cross you're going to go on vacation soon, and set up a goldfish to Stream for your while you away, and it's going to delete all your Godrolls
Minus style points for not pairing Rose with Compass Rose. But a very nice roll!!!!
I have this exact same roll, never used it thou
Well, I have full bore, accurized, slideshot, explosive payload textured grip + range mw
I haven't been lucky to get this roll! :( however my hammerforged, accurized, moving target, eye of the storm roll with a stability masterwork is a thing of beauty! Feels like aimbot 😍
Im just trying to get max range moving target opening shot
I mean. Mine is smallbore, accurized, slideshot, ep, smooth grip, range mw. I’ll still take it any day 😂
I feel like moving target would have been better than slideshot
We basically have the same roll, ive had mine for a while
I just got my Godroll earlier today🤣 it has smallbore, accurized rounds, slideshot, explosive payload, and range MW.
That’s the exact roll I’m looking for
Bro full bore max range 💀💀
@@ichweiwoduwohnst4723 1m more range for scuffed stats aint it
i have the roll too! but with a range work
@AztecrossGaming I actually have the exact same one you have lol
Surprised not many use fatebringer in pvp anymore.
Brother my rng is dog ass, been focusing roses for ages, even grinded to plat for extra focuses and so far my best roll in like a year is fullbore, accurized, slide shot, ep, smooth grip, so close yet so far
Is there a DIM link to your void titan PvP build?
Congrats on 800k big man
I need this matchmaking fr