I find it impressive how well she instantly implements his instructions in all their subtlety.
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I was about to comment the same thing hehe Very fast learner. Aside from her obvious technical and expressive gifts, it's also a sign of humility. Means she's really open to his suggestions
It is refreshing to hear and watch Maestro Schiff explain the character of the work, its structure and narrative, including with graphic images, as in a painting with perspective- i.e., space and distance, which also modulates the degree of sound and nuance. The young lady is extremely gifted, and it was a pleasure to hear her performance as well as Schiff's analysis and recommendations. This was a thoroughly enjoyable master class.
Mr Schuff, I have been your secret admirer for many years. I have bought your complete set of CD playing Bach’s prelude and fugue. Not only a wonderful performer, you are such an excellent teacher. You are the best!! Thanks for your time guiding the young generation… we need you. 👍👍👏👏💪💪💪
I agree entirely; she already has an embryonic version of a lot of Schiff’s phrasing and voicing. And I’ve never seen him in a masterclass just playing along out of the pure joy of joining in with the musicianship taking place. She definitely has a bit of potential.
I was today at her playing Grieg's concert under Simone Menezes. I almost wept at some places, they made it emotionally overwhelming. I agree, she is cold in behaviour, but does that matter, if she delivers so strong feelings to the listeners? 🙂 After all, she is an Estonian. I live in Estonia, and most Estonian girls normally don't smile.
Lovely, wise lesson from András Schiff. And that is why he is there right now : to help her find and understand Beethoven’s humour. And when you are as young as this child is, of course humour can be learnt. I am 79, and I tell you that one does not have to be grumpy as a septuagenarian :) We can all choose to be something else.
I'm surprised that as a 79 year old, you have not "learnt" that this is a young lady performing...not a child, or a "young child." I will, however, give you partial credit for not calling her a "kid." 17 year old teens would deem it demeaning to be called a young child.
Amazing... !!! visualisation of feelings and deep knowledge of world music especially national / folk music, knowledge of world affairs ... imaginative and uplifting ... what a joy to listen to this !!!
It becomes clear you are learning from the best here, calm and wise as he is. I've recently heard this sonata for the first time and I'm not sure why it isn't played more.
Thank to both for you for helping me understand the 2nd movement that I play in the Gipsy style, as described. You pointed out Andante applied to a 2/2 so it shouldn't be slow. From the other interpretations heard on YT, your version appears to me the most compelling and enjoyable way to play this music. Bravo !
Having a low wrist gives your more pressure and power, but yeah it can be quite straining if you don’t relax properly. It seems like she is relaxing enough, but who knows.
I don´t know, although I like Schiff a lot as a pianist this masterclass lesson is pretty superficial and rushed. I had some lessons at the conservatory where we worked only on 8 bars or so over one hour. So it was way more in deep, so to speak. And I knew a fellow student who worked on a Haydn sonata for 3 semesters. But in general I like her playing a lot. In the end it was only the tempo and the spirit of one movement that had to be corrected. And she understood it immediately.
@@SkyCloudSilence Well, first of all I´m not "your dear" - ok? And secondly, of course there´s a point when you have to play the whole piece or at least bigger parts of it. But nevertheless the beginning belongs to the work on details. Playing the whole thing is just an encore where it´s more about dramaturgy, economizing your energy etc. - but the artistic shaping takes pace in the work on details.
@@anonymusum I'm sorry, but in most cases it's simply wrong for the masterclass teacher to subject a student/participant/musician to those types of struggle sessions which are more appropriate coming from the teachers in charge of the student's progress fulltime (in their home school/conservatory). For a more public masterclass, it's largely inappropriate.
This Beethoven sonata played by Backhaus is the oldest in my favorites list. I would like to replace that now with this young pianist's music. She has to play exactly as instructed by the maestro and it will be the best record ever made.
There's too much pressure in the 1st movement that should be much much more soft and delicate... it's like a love declaration to an enchanting and beautiful lady 🎼🎹❤
Herr Schiff scheint etwas irritiert zu sein dass er die junge sehr talentierte Studentin überhaupt kein bisschen zum Lächeln bringen konnte, sogar nicht mal beim Tänzchen, wo er sich doch so viel Mühe gab etwas Leichtigkeit ins Spiel zu bringen.
Qu'est-ce qu'il se prend au sérieux ce prof qui se complaît en un tas de mimiques.C'est puant ! En plus , il ne laisse pas une minute à cette jeune et remarquable pianiste sans l'interrompre pour imposer sa science qu'il croit meilleure qu'une autre.Je trouve cela infecte car il ne fait qu'inciter l'éleve à reproduire ce que lui entend , se prenant pour un modèle fidèle de l'esprit Beethovenien.Cela fait sourire lorsque l'on voit de grands maîtres , tellement humbles , commencer par écouter l'ensemble et non la fragmentation d'un mouvement de sonate...avant de suggérer une coloration différente du timbre , voire un phrasé différemment expressif.Moi qui ai été éleve d'Alfred CORTOT dans ses 7 dernières années , j'ai connu et apprécié ce maître extraordinaire à travers son enseignement tellement respectueux de toute conception étrangère à la sienne.Et je me souviens avoir travaillé cette belle Sonate no 10 opus 14 no 02 lorsque j'avais 7 ans avec Blanche BASCOURRET de Guéraldi qui était assistante d'Alfred CORTOT à l'École Normale Supérieure de Musique de PARIS.C'est elle qui m'a présenté plus tard à son maître.Sa manière de faire travailler ressemblait beaucoup à celle d'Alfred CORTOT, faite d'écoute , de respect et de simplicité ainsi que de profonde humanité.Elle ne supportait pas ces professeurs qui passent tout leur temps à découper l'analyse d'une oeuvre en infligeant à l'élève un point de vue excessif sur l'aspect du phrasé ( comme le fait ce prof ).Au bout d'une heure l'élève ressort forcément complètement assommé par ce genre de pédagogie narcissique , comme ce doit être le cas pour cette brillante mais malheureuse interprète.Il faudrait qu'elle puisse trouver un excellent maître compréhensif pour la conduire.Je le lui souhaite de tout coeur car ce que l'on voit ici est absolument abjecte et idiot : de quoi casser une carrière !!! Lionel VIGNERESSE.
You obviously have an incredible pedigree! I tried looking up your name and recordings and didn’t find a one. Andras Schiff, on the other hand, has a huge library and a big name. I do enjoy his masterclasses and it is apparent others do too. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I enjoyed hearing it. Made me think.
I find it impressive how well she instantly implements his instructions in all their subtlety.
I was about to comment the same thing hehe
Very fast learner.
Aside from her obvious technical and expressive gifts, it's also a sign of humility.
Means she's really open to his suggestions
Also, he is a good teacher.
@@emendatus1 True too!
That´s absolutely normal in a lesson at a conservatory.
@@anonymusum well said!
It is refreshing to hear and watch Maestro Schiff explain the character of the work, its structure and narrative, including with graphic images, as in a painting with perspective- i.e., space and distance, which also modulates the degree of sound and nuance. The young lady is extremely gifted, and it was a pleasure to hear her performance as well as Schiff's analysis and recommendations. This was a thoroughly enjoyable master class.
This is simply wonderful.... Beethovens scherzo with all the warmth and smile. Beethoven had a lot of humour and warmth.
What a gift she receives to have this amazing lesson with Sir Andras Schiff!!
Mr Schuff, I have been your secret admirer for many years. I have bought your complete set of CD playing Bach’s prelude and fugue. Not only a wonderful performer, you are such an excellent teacher. You are the best!! Thanks for your time guiding the young generation… we need you. 👍👍👏👏💪💪💪
absolutely brilliant talent and sensibility, and already a huge range of pianistic registers.Schiff enjoys the class. She just needs a smile....
I agree entirely; she already has an embryonic version of a lot of Schiff’s phrasing and voicing. And I’ve never seen him in a masterclass just playing along out of the pure joy of joining in with the musicianship taking place. She definitely has a bit of potential.
I was today at her playing Grieg's concert under Simone Menezes. I almost wept at some places, they made it emotionally overwhelming. I agree, she is cold in behaviour, but does that matter, if she delivers so strong feelings to the listeners? 🙂 After all, she is an Estonian. I live in Estonia, and most Estonian girls normally don't smile.
Lovely, wise lesson from András Schiff. And that is why he is there right now : to help her find and understand Beethoven’s humour. And when you are as young as this child is, of course humour can be learnt. I am 79, and I tell you that one does not have to be grumpy as a septuagenarian :) We can all choose to be something else.
At 18 one is not a child anymore!
@@renegrosheintz-laval9146 You are your mother's child at any age. Child was offered here as a term of endearment.
I'm surprised that as a 79 year old, you have not "learnt" that this is a young lady performing...not a child, or a "young child." I will, however, give you partial credit for not calling her a "kid." 17 year old teens would deem it demeaning to be called a young child.
she is a grown woman
Very talented pianist Tahe. And mister Shiff know it. I really like her young "wilderness" sound. Thanks for upload Paolo from Italy
It is always a great pleasure to listen the teaching of A. Schiff 😍🥰
Amazing... !!! visualisation of feelings and deep knowledge of world music especially national / folk music, knowledge of world affairs ... imaginative and uplifting ... what a joy to listen to this !!!
Very talented! Her touch is Magnificent!
These staccatos from the second movement sound wonderful
Shiff always knows any piece inside out it’s amazing
What a wonderful player this young girl is! I think Mr Schiff did help her! Thanks for posting! 🌸🌹🥰🦄🎹🎶🌺😍😝💐🍀🦋👍😀
Very gifted girl. And such a beauty.
It becomes clear you are learning from the best here, calm and wise as he is. I've recently heard this sonata for the first time and I'm not sure why it isn't played more.
Saw her live this year, truly such a pleasant touch and sublime phrasing
Thank you!
21:32 3rd movement
31:09 1st movement
Very good lesson--for her Future!... Bravo Both!
My first hearing of this wonderful sonata. Schiff has a wealth of knowledge and a great touch which will enrich her playing.
First time listening to this sonata. She did so good!! Made me laugh throughout. Amazing lesson.
This girl is very talented .
She's goooood
Indeed a prodigy…..But an awful tinny steinway piano to contend with.
She deserves to have a lesson from somebody like Mr. Schiff.
Thank to both for you for helping me understand the 2nd movement that I play in the Gipsy style, as described. You pointed out Andante applied to a 2/2 so it shouldn't be slow. From the other interpretations heard on YT, your version appears to me the most compelling and enjoyable way to play this music. Bravo !
I love how he says it's good when people laugh.
Adoro ouvir Andras Schiffer
Great lesson! Music like this takes a great deal of focused attention.
There are no more James Bond movies so the Bond girls retired too and I can see that at least one of them took up piano❤
This fine pianist breaks her wrist a lot when she plays, I hope she doesn't get some kind of injury in the future!
THIS!!! I was surprised that she's able to play this well with that technique....
Having a low wrist gives your more pressure and power, but yeah it can be quite straining if you don’t relax properly. It seems like she is relaxing enough, but who knows.
Yes, but she produces a beautiful sound.
I thought the same thing
This position means that her hand is closer to the keyboard, which allows for more control at playing
Wonderful girl!
She's very responsive to his comments. Wonderful event!
Brilliant.
He is very talented. And the girl plays also well.
I don´t know, although I like Schiff a lot as a pianist this masterclass lesson is pretty superficial and rushed. I had some lessons at the conservatory where we worked only on 8 bars or so over one hour. So it was way more in deep, so to speak. And I knew a fellow student who worked on a Haydn sonata for 3 semesters.
But in general I like her playing a lot. In the end it was only the tempo and the spirit of one movement that had to be corrected. And she understood it immediately.
It may be that she is a faster learner than you....
@@colompiano4531is writing BS or insults your litlle hobby?
At some point, my dear, you have to cover more than 8 bars per hour or else you will never play any amount of repertoire. That's just facts.
@@SkyCloudSilence Well, first of all I´m not "your dear" - ok? And secondly, of course there´s a point when you have to play the whole piece or at least bigger parts of it. But nevertheless the beginning belongs to the work on details. Playing the whole thing is just an encore where it´s more about dramaturgy, economizing your energy etc. - but the artistic shaping takes pace in the work on details.
@@anonymusum I'm sorry, but in most cases it's simply wrong for the masterclass teacher to subject a student/participant/musician to those types of struggle sessions which are more appropriate coming from the teachers in charge of the student's progress fulltime (in their home school/conservatory). For a more public masterclass, it's largely inappropriate.
This Beethoven sonata played by Backhaus is the oldest in my favorites list. I would like to replace that now with this young pianist's music. She has to play exactly as instructed by the maestro and it will be the best record ever made.
Lindo, lindo!
Palju õnne sünnipäevaks Tähe-Lee Liiv
"Like far away far away...."
il faut dire qui est le compositeur et oas seulement les interpretes
Wow she played a passage the same way twice yet schiff thought it was better after his comments.
There's too much pressure in the 1st movement that should be much much more soft and delicate... it's like a love declaration to an enchanting and beautiful lady 🎼🎹❤
Herr Schiff scheint etwas irritiert zu sein dass er die junge sehr talentierte Studentin überhaupt kein bisschen zum Lächeln bringen konnte, sogar nicht mal beim Tänzchen, wo er sich doch so viel Mühe gab etwas Leichtigkeit ins Spiel zu bringen.
I think, she doesn’t find the funny part very funny 😊
Frustrating that she played this sonata so seriously, she didn't seem to get the humor in the piece
humor can't be learned :o(
@@poetmale It comes in time. She's young and she will learn. Listening to Mozart operas help.
@@sofiae8123 love your comment. I'll try to stay positive. Greetings from a grumpy septuagenarian 🙂
I would find it hard to be humorous playing in front of Sir András Schiff! 🤣
I heard the humor, it just wasn't a rolling belching laugh.
Qu'est-ce qu'il se prend au sérieux ce prof qui se complaît en un tas de mimiques.C'est puant ! En plus , il ne laisse pas une minute à cette jeune et remarquable pianiste sans l'interrompre pour imposer sa science qu'il croit meilleure qu'une autre.Je trouve cela infecte car il ne fait qu'inciter l'éleve à reproduire ce que lui entend , se prenant pour un modèle fidèle de l'esprit Beethovenien.Cela fait sourire lorsque l'on voit de grands maîtres , tellement humbles , commencer par écouter l'ensemble et non la fragmentation d'un mouvement de sonate...avant de suggérer une coloration différente du timbre , voire un phrasé différemment expressif.Moi qui ai été éleve d'Alfred CORTOT dans ses 7 dernières années , j'ai connu et apprécié ce maître extraordinaire à travers son enseignement tellement respectueux de toute conception étrangère à la sienne.Et je me souviens avoir travaillé cette belle Sonate no 10 opus 14 no 02 lorsque j'avais 7 ans avec Blanche BASCOURRET de Guéraldi qui était assistante d'Alfred CORTOT à l'École Normale Supérieure de Musique de PARIS.C'est elle qui m'a présenté plus tard à son maître.Sa manière de faire travailler ressemblait beaucoup à celle d'Alfred CORTOT, faite d'écoute , de respect et de simplicité ainsi que de profonde humanité.Elle ne supportait pas ces professeurs qui passent tout leur temps à découper l'analyse d'une oeuvre en infligeant à l'élève un point de vue excessif sur l'aspect du phrasé ( comme le fait ce prof ).Au bout d'une heure l'élève ressort forcément complètement assommé par ce genre de pédagogie narcissique , comme ce doit être le cas pour cette brillante mais malheureuse interprète.Il faudrait qu'elle puisse trouver un excellent maître compréhensif pour la conduire.Je le lui souhaite de tout coeur car ce que l'on voit ici est absolument abjecte et idiot : de quoi casser une carrière !!!
Lionel VIGNERESSE.
You obviously have an incredible pedigree! I tried looking up your name and recordings and didn’t find a one. Andras Schiff, on the other hand, has a huge library and a big name. I do enjoy his masterclasses and it is apparent others do too. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I enjoyed hearing it. Made me think.
Это от зависти,бывает.
Maybe he shouldn't touch the female students in that way. Creepy. Otherwise good, but because the student is so good.