Another fantastic Hamercopia of Knowledge this evening. Glad to see John made it back from his trip but stoked to see another great lecture. Always a pleasure and keep up the wonderful work that you do for all of us.
John!!! Thank you so much for your unbiased historical lectures. You sincerely changed my like. Forever in your debt sir!! Blessings on blessings on blessings ❤
Dear John Hamer, Would you be willing to do a debate against Stephen Sizer? About the origin of Christian Zionism. The Standing For Truth channel, will host and moderate the debate. If so, pls contact them to schedule the debate, ty.
Jon, with respect for your wide ranging knowledge, excellent speaking abilities, and compassionate heart, I would like to offer the following: you conflate ‘Zionism’ with ‘support for the current Israeli government’s policies’. I think those are two different things.
How do you expect Zionism to be realized on inhabited land if not the way the Zionist government has been conducting it since the foundation of the entity in 1948, even before when Jews in Palestine conducted terrorist actions against British authorities, going as far as assassinating a UN official ? The problem lies within Zionism itself and within religious litteralism.
You probably think my petrol theory is a bit wacky, but so is Evangelical Christianity totally reversing it's attitude to Israel within a couple of generations.
Centre Place :: - *Toronto, CANADA! :: John Hamer presentation! :: *Jaffa, *Israel, etc.! :: Now this, This, THIS, is a *Superb Video UPLOAD! :: ADD: The GAZA region assessment and all inclusive ''data'' as mentioned [ MARK TWAIN / (Samuel Clemons) / ] ::: - is greatly appreciated! .,. NOTE: The *American German colony had ''suffered'' greatly! - - ERGO: - Mr. Moses Beach and ''his'' money ($$) - - ''his'' contribution to aid the sufferers of said colony should be considered a ''saving grace'' event as had been paid for! (* ALSO: { ***Grossteinbeck *** = saga! } .,. More could be and ''should be'' addressed on and upon that historical portion of the *Jaffa colony venue as existed the years, 1845 - 1898 - etc.! :: Thank YOU! (*Peace in JESUS! Hopefully!*) .,
John, I really love your talks, I appreciate your wisdom. And like you, I am appalled by the devastation of the people of Gaza. And I do think that there is room to criticize Israeli leadership. However, there must be two sides to every story. As the grandchild of polish jews whose lives were saved by Israel when Canada closed its doors to Jews, I would have appreciated a more balanced ciew - for example that there were no checkpoints prior to the second intifadah - a time of killing of hundreds of Israelis in Israel. And that these killings started after Israel extended a serious offer for land and peace in 2000. From what I read from Palestinian leaders, the issue is the very existence of the state of Israel. And that they believe the Israelis can be driven back ( through violence ) to America and Europe’ (most israelis have descent from the Middle East and north Africa) . Palestinians are amazing people, but they misunderstand who Israelis are. They are the remnants of Jewish populations that are refugees from a world that has repeatedly killed and persecuted them. As golda meir said ‘our secret to survival in Israel is that we have nowhere to go’. I pray for peace, one day.
Funnily you talk about this horrible blockade from israelis "open air prison", yet you show a map showing that egypt also borders palestine! why does noone mention this?
@@RelivingHistory1if he was pro hamas i dont think he'd refer to oct 7 as a horrific terrorist attack. And to your point that Egypt (and Jordan for the west bank) also share some blame for humanitarian crisis, this is true but does not absolve Israel of responsibility for their contribution, nor does it mean that gaza & west bank are not 'open air prisons' of sorts. And I'm generally a zionist but refusing to acknowledge the lack of freedom of movement for what it is would just be ignorant- the question is whether it is justifiable or not.
egypt receives massive amounts of money from the US. do you think a nation with an extremely corrupt political class and a leader who killed dozens of protesters is going to pass up the money for principles? egypt keeps the border closed because sisi wants american money. its really that simple
@@RelivingHistory1History has shown that authorities in Gaza never manipulated numbers of victims that are being killed by the entity’s army. On the contrary, they even underestimate them as they take into account only verifiable victims, not all those who went missing under the rubles. On the other hand, the entity, which has been consistently proven to spread fake news like it did for the « beheaded babies » and « raped women » does not allow any journalist to work on the field and does not give any reliable numbers to account for the victims of its misdeeds, if at all.
We didnt offer humanitarian aid to the Germans or Japanese until they surrendered. Hamas should never have attacked Isreal and should surrender, if only to save what's left of the Palestinian people.
Israel ignores and defies the international law governing the actions of an occupying force... It doesn't matter what you, and your friend Bibi, think and it's disgusting that they have been permitted to ethnically cleanse and destroy Palestine, with full impunity, by the zionist-controlled USA Congress - 70% of the official toll (hugely understated) of the zionist terrorist force are children and women - even if you believe all the men are kkkHamas, that's not many freedom fighters eliminated, is it? Just lots of babies, children and women...
The IDF has done the destruction of Hamas x10000, Hamas emerged decades after the creation of the state of Israel in 1948- in response to Israeli occupation. What kind of comparison is this? The Israelis are the Axis powers in this situation. Just like imperial Japan and the Third Reich, the Modern state of Israel defines itself in nationalist and ethnocratic terms (“self-determination in Israel” is “limited to Jews”, “Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people”… despite there being 1.6 million Palestinian citizens of Israel proper). Just like the German “lebensraum” ideology and desire to conquer all of Europe, Israel has continuously illegally annexed more and more Palestinian land far beyond its borders, promotes a plan of “Greater Israel”, and invites Jews all throughout the diaspora to come settle in the West Bank and steal homes that aren’t theirs with their “Jewish right of return”- while Palestinians remain refugees. Just like the fascist powers of Germany, Italy, and Japan, Israel is a a rogue state that acts lawlessly and refuses to abide by international law. Israel is not some sort of victim nation- Israel has all of the money, power, resources, and backing of all of the global superpowers, while Palestinians have no statehood at all. The lives and livelihoods of the Palestinians are dependent on Israel and what Israel wants, not the other way around. The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, in which 17 Germans were killed and 93 were wounded is incomparable to the Holocaust, Kristallnacht or any other pogroms or massacres. Similarly, the existence of Hamas and the October 7th attack (the casualties of which are not even a fraction of the casualties caused by the Israeli government & military) is in no way comparable to the the ethnic cleansing which has taken place in Palestine beginning with the Nakba in 1948 and continuing today, the legalized apartheid of the Israeli government, the illegal occupation of Palestinian territories since 1967, and the 20+ massacres committed by the IDF as well as zionist militias (1948 Deir Yassin Masscare, 1937/1939/1947 Haifa Massacres, 1994 Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre, 2002 Jenin Refugee Camp Massacre, 2012 Gaza Massacre, 2014 Gaza Massacre just to name a few). Israel didn’t start doing any of its atrocities because of “Hamas”, so it’s delusional to believe that they would stop if Hamas disbanded tomorrow. Palestinians, like any other people, won’t just lay down and die just because Israel and the politicians in Washington its bribed said to do so. Hamas will continue to exist insofar as Israel continues to starve and kill Palestinians, refuse to consider them as equal citizens, refuse to recognize the official borders of Palestine, and continues to occupy and settle in their land. “Israel should never have attacked Palestine or come up with the crackpot idea to “create” a nation where a country already existed and should surrender, if only to save what’s left to the Israeli people.”
@@theheartpart5 'israel is the nation-state of the jewish people' is there something wrong with that? I mean nobody is debating that the French deserve a France for the French people, or China for the Chinese... So why not an Israel for the Israelites? And conquering your neighbors to vassal-ize or colonize them is the historical norm, not the exception. How do you think arabs ended up all over the place outside of arabia? Not that it matters tho because youre just copy pasting, if youre even a human at all
Moses should have promised himself a nice secluded stretch of coastline in New Zealand but he didn’t know New Zealand existed when all this chosen people stuff was made up.
Another fantastic Hamercopia of Knowledge this evening. Glad to see John made it back from his trip but stoked to see another great lecture. Always a pleasure and keep up the wonderful work that you do for all of us.
John!!! Thank you so much for your unbiased historical lectures. You sincerely changed my like. Forever in your debt sir!! Blessings on blessings on blessings ❤
Dear John Hamer, Would you be willing to do a debate against Stephen Sizer? About the origin of Christian Zionism. The Standing For Truth channel, will host and moderate the debate. If so, pls contact them to schedule the debate, ty.
Thank you John. Happy Thanksgiving to all. Blessings 🙏 and prayers to all.
Jon, with respect for your wide ranging knowledge, excellent speaking abilities, and compassionate heart, I would like to offer the following: you conflate ‘Zionism’ with ‘support for the current Israeli government’s policies’. I think those are two different things.
How do you expect Zionism to be realized on inhabited land if not the way the Zionist government has been conducting it since the foundation of the entity in 1948, even before when Jews in Palestine conducted terrorist actions against British authorities, going as far as assassinating a UN official ? The problem lies within Zionism itself and within religious litteralism.
Great topic.
I am bummed I missed it because I have been holding a question……….well, it won’t expire so I’ll catch you next time.
They take late questions on their podcast. The first few minutes are them answering questions they didn’t get to in the live stream
You probably think my petrol theory is a bit wacky, but so is Evangelical Christianity totally reversing it's attitude to Israel within a couple of generations.
Centre Place :: - *Toronto, CANADA! :: John Hamer presentation! :: *Jaffa, *Israel, etc.! :: Now this, This, THIS, is a *Superb Video UPLOAD! :: ADD: The GAZA region assessment and all inclusive ''data'' as mentioned [ MARK TWAIN / (Samuel Clemons) / ] ::: - is greatly appreciated! .,. NOTE: The *American German colony had ''suffered'' greatly! - - ERGO: - Mr. Moses Beach and ''his'' money ($$) - - ''his'' contribution to aid the sufferers of said colony should be considered a ''saving grace'' event as had been paid for! (* ALSO: { ***Grossteinbeck *** = saga! } .,. More could be and ''should be'' addressed on and upon that historical portion of the *Jaffa colony venue as existed the years, 1845 - 1898 - etc.! :: Thank YOU! (*Peace in JESUS! Hopefully!*) .,
Ezekiel 38
John, I really love your talks, I appreciate your wisdom. And like you, I am appalled by the devastation of the people of Gaza. And I do think that there is room to criticize Israeli leadership. However, there must be two sides to every story. As the grandchild of polish jews whose lives were saved by Israel when Canada closed its doors to Jews, I would have appreciated a more balanced ciew - for example that there were no checkpoints prior to the second intifadah - a time of killing of hundreds of Israelis in Israel. And that these killings started after Israel extended a serious offer for land and peace in 2000. From what I read from Palestinian leaders, the issue is the very existence of the state of Israel. And that they believe the Israelis can be driven back ( through violence ) to America and Europe’ (most israelis have descent from the Middle East and north Africa) . Palestinians are amazing people, but they misunderstand who Israelis are. They are the remnants of Jewish populations that are refugees from a world that has repeatedly killed and persecuted them. As golda meir said ‘our secret to survival in Israel is that we have nowhere to go’. I pray for peace, one day.
Funnily you talk about this horrible blockade from israelis "open air prison", yet you show a map showing that egypt also borders palestine! why does noone mention this?
And you take hammas numbers as fact. This talk is just pro-hammas talking points. How sad.
@@RelivingHistory1if he was pro hamas i dont think he'd refer to oct 7 as a horrific terrorist attack. And to your point that Egypt (and Jordan for the west bank) also share some blame for humanitarian crisis, this is true but does not absolve Israel of responsibility for their contribution, nor does it mean that gaza & west bank are not 'open air prisons' of sorts. And I'm generally a zionist but refusing to acknowledge the lack of freedom of movement for what it is would just be ignorant- the question is whether it is justifiable or not.
egypt receives massive amounts of money from the US. do you think a nation with an extremely corrupt political class and a leader who killed dozens of protesters is going to pass up the money for principles? egypt keeps the border closed because sisi wants american money. its really that simple
Israel controls the boarder between gaza and Egypt (the philidelphi corridor) and the boarder between the west bank and Jordan
@@RelivingHistory1History has shown that authorities in Gaza never manipulated numbers of victims that are being killed by the entity’s army. On the contrary, they even underestimate them as they take into account only verifiable victims, not all those who went missing under the rubles. On the other hand, the entity, which has been consistently proven to spread fake news like it did for the « beheaded babies » and « raped women » does not allow any journalist to work on the field and does not give any reliable numbers to account for the victims of its misdeeds, if at all.
We didnt offer humanitarian aid to the Germans or Japanese until they surrendered. Hamas should never have attacked Isreal and should surrender, if only to save what's left of the Palestinian people.
Agreed
But settlers taking Palestinian's homes in the west bank is cool?
Israel ignores and defies the international law governing the actions of an occupying force... It doesn't matter what you, and your friend Bibi, think and it's disgusting that they have been permitted to ethnically cleanse and destroy Palestine, with full impunity, by the zionist-controlled USA Congress - 70% of the official toll (hugely understated) of the zionist terrorist force are children and women - even if you believe all the men are kkkHamas, that's not many freedom fighters eliminated, is it? Just lots of babies, children and women...
The IDF has done the destruction of Hamas x10000, Hamas emerged decades after the creation of the state of Israel in 1948- in response to Israeli occupation.
What kind of comparison is this? The Israelis are the Axis powers in this situation. Just like imperial Japan and the Third Reich, the Modern state of Israel defines itself in nationalist and ethnocratic terms (“self-determination in Israel” is “limited to Jews”, “Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people”… despite there being 1.6 million Palestinian citizens of Israel proper). Just like the German “lebensraum” ideology and desire to conquer all of Europe, Israel has continuously illegally annexed more and more Palestinian land far beyond its borders, promotes a plan of “Greater Israel”, and invites Jews all throughout the diaspora to come settle in the West Bank and steal homes that aren’t theirs with their “Jewish right of return”- while Palestinians remain refugees.
Just like the fascist powers of Germany, Italy, and Japan, Israel is a a rogue state that acts lawlessly and refuses to abide by international law. Israel is not some sort of victim nation- Israel has all of the money, power, resources, and backing of all of the global superpowers, while Palestinians have no statehood at all. The lives and livelihoods of the Palestinians are dependent on Israel and what Israel wants, not the other way around.
The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, in which 17 Germans were killed and 93 were wounded is incomparable to the Holocaust, Kristallnacht or any other pogroms or massacres. Similarly, the existence of Hamas and the October 7th attack (the casualties of which are not even a fraction of the casualties caused by the Israeli government & military) is in no way comparable to the the ethnic cleansing which has taken place in Palestine beginning with the Nakba in 1948 and continuing today, the legalized apartheid of the Israeli government, the illegal occupation of Palestinian territories since 1967, and the 20+ massacres committed by the IDF as well as zionist militias (1948 Deir Yassin Masscare, 1937/1939/1947 Haifa Massacres, 1994 Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre, 2002 Jenin Refugee Camp Massacre, 2012 Gaza Massacre, 2014 Gaza Massacre just to name a few).
Israel didn’t start doing any of its atrocities because of “Hamas”, so it’s delusional to believe that they would stop if Hamas disbanded tomorrow. Palestinians, like any other people, won’t just lay down and die just because Israel and the politicians in Washington its bribed said to do so. Hamas will continue to exist insofar as Israel continues to starve and kill Palestinians, refuse to consider them as equal citizens, refuse to recognize the official borders of Palestine, and continues to occupy and settle in their land.
“Israel should never have attacked Palestine or come up with the crackpot idea to “create” a nation where a country already existed and should surrender, if only to save what’s left to the Israeli people.”
@@theheartpart5 'israel is the nation-state of the jewish people' is there something wrong with that? I mean nobody is debating that the French deserve a France for the French people, or China for the Chinese... So why not an Israel for the Israelites? And conquering your neighbors to vassal-ize or colonize them is the historical norm, not the exception. How do you think arabs ended up all over the place outside of arabia? Not that it matters tho because youre just copy pasting, if youre even a human at all
“That would be an ecumenical matter.”
Moses should have promised himself a nice secluded stretch of coastline in New Zealand but he didn’t know New Zealand existed when all this chosen people stuff was made up.