@ there was so much potential, but the moment that it shifted from being humans in the time of dinosaurs, struggling to survive and turned into… humans fighting humans, I just started to lose interest. So much potential, but… no… no wasted it
Unlike Picard, Archer doesn't have a really big crew to send with a highly skilled security detail. One of my buddies had the same concern with Janeway and how she led integral away missions. In Janeway's case, she didn't have a contingent of red coats to take that risk. Janeway's crew would have mutinied before long. Therefore, Janeway, like Archer, had to take the lead in dangerous situations. Picard was the only captain who had the luxury of sitting up safe in the bridge.
I would sure hope not. After thousands of years having to do so I wouldn't want to have to live kn backpack future. Where are the pockets and modular mini purses/fanny packs
The scary thing is that in the early days of colonization in the 15th through 17th centuries, this sort of thing happened a lot. Colonists would set sail on a one-way trip, If they made it, they would establish themselves, and if they were able to survive, they would be there when the next ships arrived months or even years later. Some colonies didn't survive due to disease, insufficient crop and livestock yields, hostile natives, etc. Terra Nova is basically the equivalent of the infamous Roanoke colony in New England. Whether it's by sail or spaceship, the same dangers of establishing colonies still exist in any century. I would not be surprised if at least one attempt to establish a mars colony ends in some form of tragic failure.
Roanoke is notoriously misrepresented for racist reasons. The colonists moved in with the natives. They just fully merged with a tribe and lived with them. But there has always been a grand old tradition of white explorers and colonists vanishing in "unsolved mysteries" when natives nearby are just ignored despite seeing what happened.
Yeah, the manufacturer finally added it back because it wasn't obsolete anymore. They keep adding and removing these things. At one point I imagine they weren't even good for a medical scan.
@@beehive5835 Warp speeds are supposed to be exponential. Warp factor 5 is 125 times faster than warp factor 1. (using the warps scale of the time) There was also no support on the way, only hostiles. It is literally an allegory for early american settlers going out into indian territory on foot. A warp 2 vessel would need to travel for 2 years, non stop, still. The Enterprise could do it in 34 days, in theory, if they pushed their engines hard for that long. Which as we know from any Star Trek show is not a good idea. It was one of their first stops, still. Remember the whole early plotline was that the Vulcans blocked the Humans from exploring, early on. It is the whole premise of the show.
With everything going on with earth, and the potentially 18 year long journey just to say, hey there ded, not to mention earth only had like a hundred warp capable ships, most of which were trade vessels. Going warp 1 at max, 2 in later years
This would have been the very first mission of Enterprise: Go to that planet where our brothers and sisters were lost 70 years ago and report back. They could have made the trip in weeks/months.
@@christopherharmon2433 Grenades would ruin the "perfect" future Roddenberry wanted to set the show in. Supposedly, humanity "evolved" past the need for violence. The NV gear, that falls on the lack of ANY damned sealed suits when walking on alien planets.
@@christopherharmon2433 Grenades would take away from the glory they earn from melee combat. That, and the writers seem to have forgotten that grenades are a thing. Heck, they never even had anti-Borg ballistic weapons in play.
I try to cut Trek in general some slack on basic premises, but this one was particularly strained. There are already other human colonies outside the Solar System, and more importantly human ships. For 70 years, there's no way that NONE of them were ever tasked with checking out the first colony, defined by it's closeness to Earth. And that's leaving out the Vulcans themselves never popping by to check in when the Humans said their colony had been out of contact for a while. Just resetting the premise to "X visited the colony and found intense radiation, we haven't tried checking again because it was lethal at the time and an embarrassment, oh look, caves!" would have surely bumped this up a couple notches, especially when it came to the conflict with the colonists.
Humanity lacked the warp drive technology to get to Terra Nova any faster then 9 years and they weren't willing to have a crew of Humans spend 9 years in space to check on the colony and then take 9 more years to get back to Earth. It was only thanks to Archer and his dad that Humanity got improved warp drive engines so that the Terra Nova colony could be visited and even then, the Vulcans tried to block the Archers at every turn and almost succeeded. As for the Vulcans, Earth Command never asked them for help out of fear that they'd use the incident as an excuse to hold Humanity back even more.
@@girlgarde By the time Enterprise launched, Earth had many ships out on interstellar trade routes. Mayweather was born on a Warp 2 ship, and it was a tub compared to others already available 40 years before the Enterprise. They could have gotten there far faster than 9 years.
@@westrim You're forgetting how trade lines work. The Age of Sail reminds us that there are many interconnecting parts when it comes to trading. It's not as direct as it appears. The further away you are from some place, like Japan and Britian, the more ships need to be involved. Ports need to be established, there forth colonies need to be established. That's why people in India and Africa have white ancestors. Without those support systems, you're under the thumb of other countries. You need permission and legality on your side. Earth was heavily dependent on the Vulcans for this trade until they could convince these other traders to trade directly with them rather than through the Vulcans. And even then, that was Earth telling those traders to come here, rather than Earth come to them because of the lack of suitability for quick flights on the human's end. Not to mention *pirates* and *raiders* could very easily intersect Earth's vulnerable ships without the Vulcan Warbirds for protection. This is why so many humans hate the Vulcans during this time: even if we had the technology, we are still heavily reliant on the Vulcans for our protection. This is why NX-Enterprise is so important: it's the first attempt to be independent from the Vulcans. It's why they can go to Terra Nova now. No one is telling them to stop.
The SS Conestoga. Named after the wagon. Conestoga is a small village about 10 miles from where I live in Lancaster. I belong to a sportsman's club in Conestoga. The wagons originated there.
@@gothicalpha There are plenty of shows, movies, and video games that didn't find an audience when they were new. Some of them were just bad, but a fair few gain attention later. "Vindicated By History," as it were.
@gothicalpha I first saw Star Trek enterprise in 2004 in my country I was 13 and half at the time and didn’t think any different then than I think today. I loved the tv series from the get go. And another thing is I don’t understand why people hate on the theme song. I think it is a fitting song that comes with the images in the theme aptly showing human perseverance and spirit to push forward. To me personally this is the last Star Trek show. As anything made since 2009 movie reboots and 2017 of Kurtzman trek isn’t Star Trek at all.
A colony destroyed by a meteorite strike, that caused mass radiation and ecological changes that forced the survivors underground to survive and adapt to their new conditions.
@@charlestaylor253 too early for that to have been the cause. Terra nova is colonised and then destroyed in 2078. Crystalline entity was first encountered by the federation in 2333.
Croatoan was the name the natives gave to another nearby island where they lived after Roanoak collapsed the survives joined the tribe then pretended to be natives when the British showed up because they had effectively been abandoned by their govoner for YEARS (it was noticed that some members of the tribe has unusually pale skin) we also know what happened to Amelia Eirhart found her body and plain decades ago
@@WardNightstone my favorite is the Franklin expedition. They were ambitious, had the latest technology like a unique steam engine and canned food, but they mysteriously vanished from the ship and for 150 year no one knew what happened.... Except we did the whole time theu just ignored the locals who saw the sailors get stuck in the ice, go mad from the metal poisoning in their poorly canned rations, tavel accross to set up camp on land and slowly die while cannibalizing their dead. But what would those native savages know. British sailors would never so something so barbaric. Better to ignore them and even as recent as the last few decades have shows on the history channel talk about it like it's unsolved.
0:40 Based on that timeline, it would have been around 2100. Saying Trip's grandpappy is no younger than 60 so 50 years before the current time of around 2150. Then Archer says nobody has heard from Terra Nova for 70 years! That makes it 2080. MASSIVELY TOO early even in ST canon.
The great error by Roddenberry. He placed the Federation at humanity 23rd century. To the 60s humans it seemed distant enough for a future civilization but not millenia away for the future to be unrecognizable. However by that action he gave himself no more than 300 years for civilization building. By TNG the romulan wars were placed in 22nd century. And WW3 IN The 21st century when enterprise came along it had unenviable task of illuminating established Lore. Yet the time frames were weird as hell and requires disbelief suspension. 100 years from first contact and in that time make Earth a near sustainable paradise. And set up the Arc for Federation civilization
As a health physicist. Regardless of their futuristic methods for dealing with the radiation exposure and its effects, which is to be expected, it makes me happy to see that they still kept the amount of radiation and impacts within the realm of accuracy.
One thing I’m confused about - T’pol just says “less than 800 mrad”. Does that mean “the radiation dose rate is less than 800 mrad per hour”, or “if you stayed there for a few hours, you would get less than 800 mrad of dose”? I know it doesn’t really matter with such a low dose, but how do you interpret the reading, and is the way T’Pol states it true to how it’s done IRL?
I like that we see Vulcans. It's weird in a series where they are the right hand of the humanity and you only see them in one series. It's also fitting to see it here, because it gives credence that it was a rare occurrence in the flagship of the fleet (or series) in the future.
That's still traveling at more than twice the speed of light! In reality that may never even be possible. In three or four hundred years technology will probably be closer to The Expanse than Star Trek. Taking weeks or months to move around our own solar system. In Trek, they don't actually travel faster than the speed of light. They travel through warp bubbles without actually physically travelling through space. Impulse is when they actually physically are moving through linear space and that's only ever at a fraction of the speed of light.
There was probably a very basic survey mission first. Make sure the planet hadn't exploded and we weren't seeing the light from when it was still around, things like that. This was WAY before the more sophisticated Starfleet. The comment implies that *someone* went there and back, and if not the colonists, then someone before them.
Wait ...really? ROFL ..you people are inconsistent. Enterprise was supposedly the worst. But eh ..you all do the same over and over again to TNG, DS9, niWho, BSG reboot... But you all get forgotten or forget...
@DanWint With all due respect, I'm not one of those recent Enterprise fans. I liked the series from the beginning. I've got all 4 seasons on DVD, and have owned them for years since they became available. Other than the series finale, season 4 was the best and had Les Moonves not canceled Enterprise, season 5 would have been about the Earth/Romulan war. Truly a missed opportunity.
The thing about Terra Nova that always bothered me was why in the 70 years since they lost contact no one was willing to ask the Vulcans for help? Was Earth really that unwilling to swallow their pride? It wouldn't even have had to be a big deal just a simple "Hey we sent out a colony to this system but we haven't heard from them in like twenty years and are getting a bit worried, would you mind sending a ship to check on them if it's not to much trouble?"
@erikthomsen4768 That doesn't make sense for several reasons: 1. The Vulcans were looking over Earth's shoulder during their space program, Vulcans were on Earth constantly after first contact, they would've known about the Terra Nova colony. 2. The Vulcans would've taken a strong interest in how Earth's deep space colony was doing, as it would be a barometer for what Earth would attempt next. 3. If the colony failed, and the Vulcans swooped in to rescue the survivors (or at least showed up afterwards to find out what happened) it would be too big of a "I told you so" for the Vulcans to pass up.
Star Trek Enterprise is set in 2151. Before sending a manned mission to an exoplanet surely that system would be thoroughly explored by unmanned probes so there'd be no surprises such as comet or asteroid impacts on the planet to be used as a human colony.
So they lost contact with Terra Nova 70 years ago, and they're just now getting around to investigating? They couldn't have just asked the Vulcans to go check out what happened to their colony after the first week of no contact?
The Vulcans were being highly uncooperative at this point in the timeline. It’s not out of the question for them to just not care enough to help Earth in this matter.
20 light years? Are they talking about Gliese 581 star?; it is a red dwarf star and is notable for potentially having planets within its habitable zone, including Gliese 581d, which could potentially hold water on its surface.
No. In Star Trek beta canon they wrote that Terra Nova orbits the star Eta Cassiope. It is 19.3 light years from Earth. And its a G-type star. Like the sun.
Get a flashlight! Use communicators and the tricorders! If only they had cellphones and the proper apps and just add phaser functions then they'd have that futuristic multi tool..
@@stargazer7644 dunno cell phones do need cell towers to work so easier to use radios. Why they don't have headsets I don't know but in the TNG era the communicator, translator device and home in beacon for the transporter is all in the combadges all starfleet personel is wearing
9 years there, 9 years back? Huh? So they had FTL 70 years before Enterprise? How long had it been since they met the Vulcan's and Cochran invented warp?
Space travel was not so new in the decades after the colony got destroyed. WHY did nobody bother to see what happened if it was a big deal? This would be an analogy to not searching for the wreckage of the Titanic. This was some really lousy support by Earth.
9 years there and 9 years back. Did whoever (or whatever) discovered this planet also take 9 years there and back? And why wouldn't they have carried some satellites with them? And why not more of the probes (I'm assuming it was a probe) that they could send back to earth?
@@justaskin8523 Chances are in 200 years or less there would be an all purpose device that would have the tricorder functions, a basic light, and communications all rolled up into basically a smartphone. Though with that many functions the device itself may be the size of their tricorder. Along with a serious power source that could run it for months or years. Especially if one of the functions was an emergency beacon.
“What happened to Terra nova?”
“Oh it got cancelled after its first season”
I hate that I got invested in that show. Never heard the news that it was cancelled, so I just waited for next year's season.
@ there was so much potential, but the moment that it shifted from being humans in the time of dinosaurs, struggling to survive and turned into… humans fighting humans, I just started to lose interest.
So much potential, but… no… no wasted it
👀
Thought ya'll were being sarcastic until i realized that was a actual show.
@@sandrosliske they could do a great spin off of that show
Terra Nova was a good show
And so begins Starfleet's proud tradition of sending the Capitain and every bridge officer he can find to be eaten by the natives.
😂😂😂
Unlike Picard, Archer doesn't have a really big crew to send with a highly skilled security detail. One of my buddies had the same concern with Janeway and how she led integral away missions. In Janeway's case, she didn't have a contingent of red coats to take that risk. Janeway's crew would have mutinied before long. Therefore, Janeway, like Archer, had to take the lead in dangerous situations. Picard was the only captain who had the luxury of sitting up safe in the bridge.
NX-01 only had like 88 crew. And there wasn't a starbase or colony every few dozen parsecs.
this was before the protocals changes and made it the first officer's job to go on away missions
That's okay, they are protected by 'plot armor'
"Get the flashlights because, lord knows, we sure as hell aren't going be carrying something like a backpack."
"Rad Suits? Nah. Flashlights though? For sure, the dark is WAY scarier than radiation!"
i think they put them on the tricorders in the future or as a belt accessory that just slid off only when they needed it in the show though.
If only they had put a light source in their communicators.... NAAAAH! Who'd ever do anything like THAT!
I would sure hope not.
After thousands of years having to do so I wouldn't want to have to live kn backpack future.
Where are the pockets and modular mini purses/fanny packs
@terryjwood Not after the tricorder battery disaster.
The scary thing is that in the early days of colonization in the 15th through 17th centuries, this sort of thing happened a lot. Colonists would set sail on a one-way trip, If they made it, they would establish themselves, and if they were able to survive, they would be there when the next ships arrived months or even years later. Some colonies didn't survive due to disease, insufficient crop and livestock yields, hostile natives, etc. Terra Nova is basically the equivalent of the infamous Roanoke colony in New England. Whether it's by sail or spaceship, the same dangers of establishing colonies still exist in any century. I would not be surprised if at least one attempt to establish a mars colony ends in some form of tragic failure.
by sail and spaceship? luckily you didin't mention space minivans or else the shuttle crews might be in a hot pickle
roanoke is infamous now? they moved in with the locals on croatan island because the weather was bad
The Viking Newfoundland "Vinland" colony collapsed. Having been constantly attacked by natives the survivors left for Greenland.
At least there won't be any native Martians to contend with. We hope? 😂
Roanoke is notoriously misrepresented for racist reasons. The colonists moved in with the natives. They just fully merged with a tribe and lived with them. But there has always been a grand old tradition of white explorers and colonists vanishing in "unsolved mysteries" when natives nearby are just ignored despite seeing what happened.
The next generation of Tricorders included a built in flashlight, much like a modern phone.
An ancient phone coz they are in the future
Yeah, the manufacturer finally added it back because it wasn't obsolete anymore. They keep adding and removing these things.
At one point I imagine they weren't even good for a medical scan.
Well with the development of phones losing more and more features every "upgrade" a useless tricorder makes sense.
Warp drive and nobody bothered to visit the colony in over 70 years?
Sounds very unlikely.
They probably could only do like warp 1.2 back then. It was a 9 year voyage
@@thefutureisnow7300 I'm sure they had faster warp drive prior to 70 years going by. What about at 40 years? 50 years? 60 years?
@@beehive5835 Warp speeds are supposed to be exponential. Warp factor 5 is 125 times faster than warp factor 1. (using the warps scale of the time)
There was also no support on the way, only hostiles. It is literally an allegory for early american settlers going out into indian territory on foot.
A warp 2 vessel would need to travel for 2 years, non stop, still. The Enterprise could do it in 34 days, in theory, if they pushed their engines hard for that long. Which as we know from any Star Trek show is not a good idea. It was one of their first stops, still.
Remember the whole early plotline was that the Vulcans blocked the Humans from exploring, early on. It is the whole premise of the show.
With everything going on with earth, and the potentially 18 year long journey just to say, hey there ded, not to mention earth only had like a hundred warp capable ships, most of which were trade vessels. Going warp 1 at max, 2 in later years
This would have been the very first mission of Enterprise: Go to that planet where our brothers and sisters were lost 70 years ago and report back. They could have made the trip in weeks/months.
Warp3 existed before enterprise so it was a short trip years before
Always wondered why ST (and nearly every other scifi series) seems to have lost the tech for night vision goggles.
Also when they get into a firefight, what ever happened to grenades?
NV goggles don't let the audience see what's going on. Flashlights do.
@@christopherharmon2433 Grenades would ruin the "perfect" future Roddenberry wanted to set the show in. Supposedly, humanity "evolved" past the need for violence. The NV gear, that falls on the lack of ANY damned sealed suits when walking on alien planets.
@@chrisdufresne9359 You would think that Klingons would be big fans of grenades.
@@christopherharmon2433 Grenades would take away from the glory they earn from melee combat. That, and the writers seem to have forgotten that grenades are a thing. Heck, they never even had anti-Borg ballistic weapons in play.
It was such a good show when they weren't going on about the temporal cold war story arc.
I try to cut Trek in general some slack on basic premises, but this one was particularly strained. There are already other human colonies outside the Solar System, and more importantly human ships. For 70 years, there's no way that NONE of them were ever tasked with checking out the first colony, defined by it's closeness to Earth. And that's leaving out the Vulcans themselves never popping by to check in when the Humans said their colony had been out of contact for a while. Just resetting the premise to "X visited the colony and found intense radiation, we haven't tried checking again because it was lethal at the time and an embarrassment, oh look, caves!" would have surely bumped this up a couple notches, especially when it came to the conflict with the colonists.
Humanity lacked the warp drive technology to get to Terra Nova any faster then 9 years and they weren't willing to have a crew of Humans spend 9 years in space to check on the colony and then take 9 more years to get back to Earth. It was only thanks to Archer and his dad that Humanity got improved warp drive engines so that the Terra Nova colony could be visited and even then, the Vulcans tried to block the Archers at every turn and almost succeeded.
As for the Vulcans, Earth Command never asked them for help out of fear that they'd use the incident as an excuse to hold Humanity back even more.
@@girlgarde By the time Enterprise launched, Earth had many ships out on interstellar trade routes. Mayweather was born on a Warp 2 ship, and it was a tub compared to others already available 40 years before the Enterprise. They could have gotten there far faster than 9 years.
@@westrim You're forgetting how trade lines work. The Age of Sail reminds us that there are many interconnecting parts when it comes to trading. It's not as direct as it appears. The further away you are from some place, like Japan and Britian, the more ships need to be involved. Ports need to be established, there forth colonies need to be established. That's why people in India and Africa have white ancestors. Without those support systems, you're under the thumb of other countries. You need permission and legality on your side.
Earth was heavily dependent on the Vulcans for this trade until they could convince these other traders to trade directly with them rather than through the Vulcans. And even then, that was Earth telling those traders to come here, rather than Earth come to them because of the lack of suitability for quick flights on the human's end. Not to mention *pirates* and *raiders* could very easily intersect Earth's vulnerable ships without the Vulcan Warbirds for protection.
This is why so many humans hate the Vulcans during this time: even if we had the technology, we are still heavily reliant on the Vulcans for our protection.
This is why NX-Enterprise is so important: it's the first attempt to be independent from the Vulcans. It's why they can go to Terra Nova now. No one is telling them to stop.
2:48 I felt that the tumbleweed was a bit too on the nose. :)
Yup, I could imagine the fan winding it from the right...
And the bike hadn't been knocked over by the wind in all that time
so cheesy lol
Its downright comedic
We come in peace
I love how all the shadows go in different directions from the buildings when they look at it from orbit. and even some buildings don't have shadows.
Terra Nova was one of the best season 1 episodes.
I loved that series! Wish it had continued.
The bar is extremely low for Season 1 then.
2:47 You know it's bad when the tumbleweed blows in.
The SS Conestoga. Named after the wagon. Conestoga is a small village about 10 miles from where I live in Lancaster. I belong to a sportsman's club in Conestoga. The wagons originated there.
I went to Conestoga High School in Berwyn!
There's a Conestoga College near where I live.
From Lancaster myself!
Why can’t Star Trek be good like this again ???
Its funny because when it came out it was panned
@@gothicalpha There are plenty of shows, movies, and video games that didn't find an audience when they were new. Some of them were just bad, but a fair few gain attention later. "Vindicated By History," as it were.
@gothicalpha I first saw Star Trek enterprise in 2004 in my country I was 13 and half at the time and didn’t think any different then than I think today. I loved the tv series from the get go. And another thing is I don’t understand why people hate on the theme song. I think it is a fitting song that comes with the images in the theme aptly showing human perseverance and spirit to push forward. To me personally this is the last Star Trek show. As anything made since 2009 movie reboots and 2017 of Kurtzman trek isn’t Star Trek at all.
Because they executives cancelled it prematurely.
To much woke.
A colony destroyed by a meteorite strike, that caused mass radiation and ecological changes that forced the survivors underground to survive and adapt to their new conditions.
Morlocs!
Crystalline Entity or something similar?
@@charlestaylor253 too early for that to have been the cause.
Terra nova is colonised and then destroyed in 2078. Crystalline entity was first encountered by the federation in 2333.
The planet’s terrain mysteriously resembles Southern California.
Was really an under-rated show.
for the first season and a half, yes. THen it turned into the Xindi show
Underrated yes!,....except that damn theme song.
Damn, now i know who stole my bycycle
Space version of the lost colony of Roanoak.
Croatoan was the name the natives gave to another nearby island where they lived after Roanoak collapsed the survives joined the tribe then pretended to be natives when the British showed up because they had effectively been abandoned by their govoner for YEARS (it was noticed that some members of the tribe has unusually pale skin) we also know what happened to Amelia Eirhart found her body and plain decades ago
@@WardNightstone my favorite is the Franklin expedition. They were ambitious, had the latest technology like a unique steam engine and canned food, but they mysteriously vanished from the ship and for 150 year no one knew what happened....
Except we did the whole time theu just ignored the locals who saw the sailors get stuck in the ice, go mad from the metal poisoning in their poorly canned rations, tavel accross to set up camp on land and slowly die while cannibalizing their dead.
But what would those native savages know. British sailors would never so something so barbaric. Better to ignore them and even as recent as the last few decades have shows on the history channel talk about it like it's unsolved.
@@WardNightstone what a lot of nonsense you are spewing.
0:40 Based on that timeline, it would have been around 2100. Saying Trip's grandpappy is no younger than 60 so 50 years before the current time of around 2150. Then Archer says nobody has heard from Terra Nova for 70 years! That makes it 2080. MASSIVELY TOO early even in ST canon.
Could you elaborate on why it is too early, please?
They would be traveling at Warp 1-1.2 to take 9 years.
Even 2070 would be 7 years after the invention of Warp Drive.
The great error by Roddenberry. He placed the Federation at humanity 23rd century. To the 60s humans it seemed distant enough for a future civilization but not millenia away for the future to be unrecognizable. However by that action he gave himself no more than 300 years for civilization building. By TNG the romulan wars were placed in 22nd century. And WW3 IN The 21st century when enterprise came along it had unenviable task of illuminating established Lore. Yet the time frames were weird as hell and requires disbelief suspension. 100 years from first contact and in that time make Earth a near sustainable paradise. And set up the Arc for Federation civilization
@@lionsjourney29 Yeah, we're already well past the Eugenics Wars.
I never seen this one. Would be great too.
As a health physicist. Regardless of their futuristic methods for dealing with the radiation exposure and its effects, which is to be expected, it makes me happy to see that they still kept the amount of radiation and impacts within the realm of accuracy.
One thing I’m confused about - T’pol just says “less than 800 mrad”. Does that mean “the radiation dose rate is less than 800 mrad per hour”, or “if you stayed there for a few hours, you would get less than 800 mrad of dose”? I know it doesn’t really matter with such a low dose, but how do you interpret the reading, and is the way T’Pol states it true to how it’s done IRL?
No one ever thought about checking on this colony until 70 years later, i guess after 70 years star fleet figure hey lets drop in to say hello
The Broken bike evokes 'Miri'; also the animated series had a lost Earth colony in 'Terratin'.
I like that we see Vulcans. It's weird in a series where they are the right hand of the humanity and you only see them in one series.
It's also fitting to see it here, because it gives credence that it was a rare occurrence in the flagship of the fleet (or series) in the future.
I LOVED THAT SERIES.
Heck 9 years there 9 years back.
I did a 7 Year trip around the world on my explorer yacht.
And it was a one way trip?
When it takes you 9 years or 9 hours to go someplace, people tend to leave you alone. Might be nice to have the peace and quiet.
That's still traveling at more than twice the speed of light!
In reality that may never even be possible. In three or four hundred years technology will probably be closer to The Expanse than Star Trek. Taking weeks or months to move around our own solar system.
In Trek, they don't actually travel faster than the speed of light. They travel through warp bubbles without actually physically travelling through space.
Impulse is when they actually physically are moving through linear space and that's only ever at a fraction of the speed of light.
9 years there and 9 years back? they took the ship apart....
There was probably a very basic survey mission first. Make sure the planet hadn't exploded and we weren't seeing the light from when it was still around, things like that. This was WAY before the more sophisticated Starfleet. The comment implies that *someone* went there and back, and if not the colonists, then someone before them.
Warp Drive, HiFi ...Clear across that old Nevada !
Bonaparte was Sweating his blue shoes !
Riding those waves just seems so Montana...
Love Enterprise!
And this is all before Kirk..
We love T,Pol.
Great show. wish we had something this good today, TV all crap.
@@DanWint I know. All the Nu Trek is so bad.
Wait ...really? ROFL ..you people are inconsistent. Enterprise was supposedly the worst. But eh ..you all do the same over and over again to TNG, DS9, niWho, BSG reboot...
But you all get forgotten or forget...
Go woke go broke...
@DanWint With all due respect, I'm not one of those recent Enterprise fans. I liked the series from the beginning. I've got all 4 seasons on DVD, and have owned them for years since they became available. Other than the series finale, season 4 was the best and had Les Moonves not canceled Enterprise, season 5 would have been about the Earth/Romulan war. Truly a missed opportunity.
Watch The Expanse. Not Trek but... finally gave me a feel of sci fi that's worth a damn after the disappointment of Discovery and Picard.
20 light years away.
They must have had a huge budget for this show. They built a massive set to look like an area of Earth. That couldn't have been cheap.
Someone in the forest and you chase them, on a radioactive planet. Imagine doing stranger danger shi* in Chernobyl!
9 years back, so that’s what happened to them, they came back duh
But they cannibalized their ship to make their buildings for their settlement. That line was spoken in the clip.
10years for Alpha Centuri and 10yrs back, that should be our goal and possible DREAM. Ha ha!
There was an actual tumbleweed in the background
The thing about Terra Nova that always bothered me was why in the 70 years since they lost contact no one was willing to ask the Vulcans for help? Was Earth really that unwilling to swallow their pride? It wouldn't even have had to be a big deal just a simple "Hey we sent out a colony to this system but we haven't heard from them in like twenty years and are getting a bit worried, would you mind sending a ship to check on them if it's not to much trouble?"
That would be asking too much of a government determined to keep humanity running at its own pace regardless of the cost.
Perhaps they couldn't stand the Vulcan response similar to "It was illogical to send them."
@erikthomsen4768 That doesn't make sense for several reasons: 1. The Vulcans were looking over Earth's shoulder during their space program, Vulcans were on Earth constantly after first contact, they would've known about the Terra Nova colony. 2. The Vulcans would've taken a strong interest in how Earth's deep space colony was doing, as it would be a barometer for what Earth would attempt next. 3. If the colony failed, and the Vulcans swooped in to rescue the survivors (or at least showed up afterwards to find out what happened) it would be too big of a "I told you so" for the Vulcans to pass up.
the whole point of NX-1 was to explore new warp speeds. So yes, it was possible. And a "lost" colony is not actually top of the list
"Damnit Jim I'm an engineer not a historian!"
Star Trek Enterprise is set in 2151. Before sending a manned mission to an exoplanet surely that system would be thoroughly explored by unmanned probes so there'd be no surprises such as comet or asteroid impacts on the planet to be used as a human colony.
Why did the vulcans not check up on them?
Plot
Because they weren't told about it because Humanity feared that the Vulcans would use it as an excuse to hold Humanity back even more.
Terra Nova was an awesome show. Sucks it only had 1 season
Laughs in Rowenoke
So they lost contact with Terra Nova 70 years ago, and they're just now getting around to investigating? They couldn't have just asked the Vulcans to go check out what happened to their colony after the first week of no contact?
The Vulcans were being highly uncooperative at this point in the timeline. It’s not out of the question for them to just not care enough to help Earth in this matter.
Grab Us A Pair of Flashlights. A Pair Of Kleets Parakeet?
Make it quick, I've got to jump through time on another show soon.
Well, they got busy with something else...writers didn't think about that.
20 light years? Are they talking about Gliese 581 star?; it is a red dwarf star and is notable for potentially having planets within its habitable zone, including Gliese 581d, which could potentially hold water on its surface.
No.
In Star Trek beta canon they wrote that Terra Nova orbits the star Eta Cassiope.
It is 19.3 light years from Earth.
And its a G-type star. Like the sun.
Get a flashlight! Use communicators and the tricorders! If only they had cellphones and the proper apps and just add phaser functions then they'd have that futuristic multi tool..
Hello Travis. ❤
Hey, I found Captain Kirk and Spock!!
New Berlin... now hold on a minute... something is afoot... well, they speak English...
Why didn't they use the light on their cell phones?
Those aint cellphones they got tricorders and hand held communcation devices
@@Groza_Dallocort Where'd the cell phones go?
@@stargazer7644 dunno cell phones do need cell towers to work so easier to use radios. Why they don't have headsets I don't know but in the TNG era the communicator, translator device and home in beacon for the transporter is all in the combadges all starfleet personel is wearing
Standard away team gear Flashlights !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Um...no flashlights in those tricorders??
Did the Terra Nova colonists have subspace communications?
The government at work 😂
"...low levels of surface radiation". "From where" .... oh I don't know,....The surface?
you can tell me, I am a doctor
What's the status of the colony in the 24th Century?
Anybody else catch the "Miri" reference?
Meatball 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
3:55 Starship to, and return to Mars?
The video ratio was out of wack
No red shirts.
Metal Crystals...source of Oxugen
9 years there, 9 years back? Huh? So they had FTL 70 years before Enterprise? How long had it been since they met the Vulcan's and Cochran invented warp?
Space travel was not so new in the decades after the colony got destroyed. WHY did nobody bother to see what happened if it was a big deal? This would be an analogy to not searching for the wreckage of the Titanic. This was some really lousy support by Earth.
Travis had some cheesy lines
9 years there and 9 years back. Did whoever (or whatever) discovered this planet also take 9 years there and back? And why wouldn't they have carried some satellites with them? And why not more of the probes (I'm assuming it was a probe) that they could send back to earth?
Burning, charging, Accelerating EverDry ..
Metal Crystals burning us some Oxygen....
Mayweather is supposed to go back to the shuttle and get flashlights. Then what?
She's not familiar with earth's early space exploration? I thought they studied all things earth.
Sorry, but by this era you should be carrying a device that has a flashlight and a recorder.
I am. My smartphone!
@@justaskin8523 Chances are in 200 years or less there would be an all purpose device that would have the tricorder functions, a basic light, and communications all rolled up into basically a smartphone. Though with that many functions the device itself may be the size of their tricorder. Along with a serious power source that could run it for months or years. Especially if one of the functions was an emergency beacon.
@@ntech62 And it would be mainly used for watching cat videos!
@@mycroftsanchez901Gotta have some entertainment while you’re waiting for the rescue ship.
LOL the cancel show Terra Nova
9 years there and back doesn’t align with “they disassembled their ship, it was a one-way trip?.
I suppose “and back” might refer to a hypothetical return trip, if the colony didn’t work out
I assume since subspace radio relays hadn't been set up yet their messages would have been at lightspeed or just over?
Great rationalizations to cover for bad writing!
Survey team prior to the actual colonization.
@@martystrasinger3801 It's part of what makes Star Trek fun :)
Why does everyone look weird?
Jesus, it's so... sci fi channel
I’m always bothered by the arrogance of humanity in enterprise. It is a cringe that has not changed with the years