Thanks for the overview - I think I'll be getting this one. The only Polyverse plugin I don't yet own is Supermodal, actually... and that's something I might have to change soon I think :)
Yeah, I love this. This is like a more sophisticated version of Kilohrarts Filter (which is my goto, even its almost too basic. But it sounds amazing!) I know this will become my new GoTo
Damn you’re right this sounds great. I’m super picky and so far as far as standalone filters i’ve only liked Softube Modular, Arturia’s Moog filter and the new Moogerfooger. This filter is right up there, which is huge.
Have you tried Cytomic The Drop? Still one of the best I've heard. Pulsar Modular P565 Siren is a new one that also sounds incredible, but just way to expensive for a filter plugin IMO. 99% of the time I just use Fabfilter Volcano 3, which still beats almost any filters out there (even though the filters aren't based on analog designs), but when I want the sound of a certain analog filter it's either The Drop or Soundtoys Filterfreak. I do like Arturia's filters, but I hate how Arturia makes their plugins. Learn to use zip archives so we don't have to have 100k resource files and folders for every damn plugin!
The distortion on this is exactly the kind of distortion I'm always looking for but never achieve with native synth effects or other plugins. More bright but smooth rather than harsh and boxy.
Always happy to see free filtering plugins. This one reminds me a lot of Fabfilter's dirty filters! There's not many free ones that self-oscillate and has tasty distortion.
@@Super-id7bq I already have it :) Yes, it's great sounding, but not that too versatile. I usually use Cytomic The Drop if I want some analog modelled filters, but I also own all of Arturia's filters. Their Moog filter is especially tasty! I just freaking hate that Arturia don't compile their resource files into the plugins. Having 200 maps and 10.000 different resource files (mostly images) is so stupidly slow when you have to install or uninstall something of theirs. Indexing and searching on the C: drive also gets super slow just because they always have to go through all of the Arturia files. I'm tempted to just remove all of their plugins and find suitable alternatives, but their DIODE-609, SPRING-636 and Pigments are still irreplaceable IMO. The first two because they sound so damn good, and Pigments because it just has it all (almost).
Actually, I remember naming a patch the “Full Cream Bass” because after a friend called it that on the grounds it was so fat. So I guess we all do is sometimes :)
Love the gui, it looks sick. But genuine question: does anyone actually like those knobs that make you move your mouse in a circle? I personally find them infuriating
11:08 can you separate individual sounds, meaning theres oviously a pattern going on from supermodal, right? but i particularly like one of those wooshwoob sounds, can you isolate just that one sound? probably editing soundmodal pattern, mute other notes and leave just that one, right?
just so you know, the framerate of the plugin gui doesn't have anything to do with its sound quality. a programmer could let graphics update 1fps and it could still be 100% great sound. the reason for that is that the GUI only represents the state of things, but doesn't own it. often times plugins appear to update fast. 24fps, 30fps, 60fps etc, but there are still a few framedrops. that's because a lot of plugins' GUIs share the same thread and the jobs what to paibt are in a common queue, which is sometimes just messy. the few plugins, where the graphics are 100% smooth have highly customized graphics engines or utilize the graphics card via openGL. but even those silky smooth animations simply represent state. so unless a plugin is lagging so bad that you just can't enjoy it, you never have to fear that it will mess with the sound. the reason why this plugin in particular has snappy af filter modulation is because the filter was designed for such fast movements to allow for drastical changes via the cv sidechain input
Yes that's it, I wasn't implying the graphics affected the sound, it was more a comment on how responsive the sound is because of how well it's made inside. When I was talking about stepping I meant in the sound, some plugins you can hear clear steps when you adjust the parameters via the mouse but when you do it via modulation they're fine. This one was perfect both ways :)
@@DashGlitch oh ok. i thought i heard something about the graphics. then you were talking about parameter smoothing. also really important topic, not taken seriously enough by some devs. but it makes the difference between a plugin that just lets you define values and one that truely wants to be modulated
Hehe, just get the plug-in yesterday and hoped that you gonna make a video about it. Boom there it is. Great! Thx Dash! I just couldn’t find out how to bring filtron and gatekeeper together. May you can describe it in another video? Greetz
enable CV from gatekeeper, but turn the volume of that channel down, then assign the sidechain input from gatekeeper into Filtron, then use the internal modulation :) check out adrenakrohm's video on it
Thanks for this! Would be very interested to know more about the Gatekeeper integration. You could already make Gatekeeper send out internal MIDI CC, but ‘CV’ makes it sound like it can express more than just 128 values. Do we know what the quantisation of Gatekeeper outputs is, and does the CV have more detail than the MIDI CC
Thanks Dash. I'm really trying to cut down on plugins. While this sounds good, is it really doing anything that Fab Filter, etc. cannot do? I know it's a personal thing... but is this going to give me something different and worth the install? Thanks. ✌
Good question, on a technical side it's a zero-delay filter design which I believe is pretty rare and I believe what makes it so responsive, and perhaps also what makes it sound so good. I don't know too much about the in-depth stuff, it's a tad heavier on the CPU that simplon would be - but it's a pretty big technical advance in the internal technology as far as I understand it. I may be totally misunderstanding things though, I'm not too clued up on DSP.
I'm someone who goes pretty ham on filter plugins, they each have their own sort of sound, strengths, weaknesses etc. At the low cost of free it can't hurt to add it to the toolbox. That being said, Volcano is definitely still worth the buy if it's catching your interest
i put that filter on my kick and it sounded horrible. as soon as it kicks in, the kick gets distorted without the filter actually doing anything. am i doing it wrong or is it just trash?
There's saturation built into the filter, you're likely sending in a very loud signal - hence the distortion. Try reducing the "in" or "drive" parameters. But also, why are you filtering the kick?
Thank you for featuring filtron on your channel :)
No problem!
Thanks for the heads up on the VST. Love the channel brother.
Not sure what I like the sound of most. This plugin, or that there’s another Phase Plant pack coming! 🤗
Always great insight and depth.... Spot on my friend !!!!
Great video and recommendation! The comment about folks talking about synths like they're tasting wine was hilarious 🤣🤣
This sounds awesome and a really cool demonstration of tricks you can do with it!
Thanks for the overview - I think I'll be getting this one. The only Polyverse plugin I don't yet own is Supermodal, actually... and that's something I might have to change soon I think :)
rad vid bro
Yeah, I love this. This is like a more sophisticated version of Kilohrarts Filter (which is my goto, even its almost too basic. But it sounds amazing!) I know this will become my new GoTo
wow, thank you for the insights - I love Polyverse Plugins 😍
Damn you’re right this sounds great. I’m super picky and so far as far as standalone filters i’ve only liked Softube Modular, Arturia’s Moog filter and the new Moogerfooger. This filter is right up there, which is huge.
Have you tried Cytomic The Drop? Still one of the best I've heard. Pulsar Modular P565 Siren is a new one that also sounds incredible, but just way to expensive for a filter plugin IMO. 99% of the time I just use Fabfilter Volcano 3, which still beats almost any filters out there (even though the filters aren't based on analog designs), but when I want the sound of a certain analog filter it's either The Drop or Soundtoys Filterfreak. I do like Arturia's filters, but I hate how Arturia makes their plugins. Learn to use zip archives so we don't have to have 100k resource files and folders for every damn plugin!
+ Filter MS 20
Cant have enough filters 😂 thanks Dash !
yae rly nice...i use to fat2 filter as my favorit...but this seams upgrading this
The distortion on this is exactly the kind of distortion I'm always looking for but never achieve with native synth effects or other plugins. More bright but smooth rather than harsh and boxy.
Sounds good and that’s an awesome track!
Always happy to see free filtering plugins. This one reminds me a lot of Fabfilter's dirty filters! There's not many free ones that self-oscillate and has tasty distortion.
The Arturia MS-20 filter has great distortion, had dope envelope shaping and is also free if you're looking for more.
@@Super-id7bq I already have it :) Yes, it's great sounding, but not that too versatile. I usually use Cytomic The Drop if I want some analog modelled filters, but I also own all of Arturia's filters. Their Moog filter is especially tasty! I just freaking hate that Arturia don't compile their resource files into the plugins. Having 200 maps and 10.000 different resource files (mostly images) is so stupidly slow when you have to install or uninstall something of theirs. Indexing and searching on the C: drive also gets super slow just because they always have to go through all of the Arturia files. I'm tempted to just remove all of their plugins and find suitable alternatives, but their DIODE-609, SPRING-636 and Pigments are still irreplaceable IMO. The first two because they sound so damn good, and Pigments because it just has it all (almost).
this sounds great! i'm building a DJ setup in bitwig and I reckon this will sound really nice in it on triggers. Good stuff man 👍
I went on awine tasting course once. I wish it had been a synth masterclass Great video Dash
Yeah, this plugin is very cool! And thank you for such great examples! 🙂
The absolute king of sound design in the entire internet history
Wowkebbaz!
Can they even Shpongle, bro?
In reference to your opening statement: I'm even suspicious when people use that language to describe wine
Actually, I remember naming a patch the “Full Cream Bass” because after a friend called it that on the grounds it was so fat. So I guess we all do is sometimes :)
Just want to say that you're the best goatee-wielding youtube educator out there, Dash!
It's the source of my powers!
@@DashGlitch
Nice. And free is good timing since I've just upgraded to the full Bitwig licence so money is tight. 👍
Sold live suite for it and have zero regrets
Love the gui, it looks sick. But genuine question: does anyone actually like those knobs that make you move your mouse in a circle? I personally find them infuriating
you can change in the settings, whether it's horizontal or vertical, I tend to just use the bitwig parameters most of the time anyway haha
Sounds fantastic. Are they working on a synth?
very cool dude
Thanks a lot for the heads up!
OKAY i really love this guy, and this filter ist just nasty af
11:08 can you separate individual sounds, meaning theres oviously a pattern going on from supermodal, right? but i particularly like one of those wooshwoob sounds, can you isolate just that one sound? probably editing soundmodal pattern, mute other notes and leave just that one, right?
just so you know, the framerate of the plugin gui doesn't have anything to do with its sound quality. a programmer could let graphics update 1fps and it could still be 100% great sound. the reason for that is that the GUI only represents the state of things, but doesn't own it. often times plugins appear to update fast. 24fps, 30fps, 60fps etc, but there are still a few framedrops. that's because a lot of plugins' GUIs share the same thread and the jobs what to paibt are in a common queue, which is sometimes just messy. the few plugins, where the graphics are 100% smooth have highly customized graphics engines or utilize the graphics card via openGL. but even those silky smooth animations simply represent state. so unless a plugin is lagging so bad that you just can't enjoy it, you never have to fear that it will mess with the sound.
the reason why this plugin in particular has snappy af filter modulation is because the filter was designed for such fast movements to allow for drastical changes via the cv sidechain input
good explanation, much appreciation, very good 😛
Yes that's it, I wasn't implying the graphics affected the sound, it was more a comment on how responsive the sound is because of how well it's made inside. When I was talking about stepping I meant in the sound, some plugins you can hear clear steps when you adjust the parameters via the mouse but when you do it via modulation they're fine. This one was perfect both ways :)
@@DashGlitch oh ok. i thought i heard something about the graphics. then you were talking about parameter smoothing. also really important topic, not taken seriously enough by some devs. but it makes the difference between a plugin that just lets you define values and one that truely wants to be modulated
like omnisphere. Runs like absolute dog water even on my beast PC... sounds great though
It's resource heavy at 192khz, though. I like their "Wider" too.
wow
Hehe, just get the plug-in yesterday and hoped that you gonna make a video about it.
Boom there it is. Great! Thx Dash!
I just couldn’t find out how to bring filtron and gatekeeper together.
May you can describe it in another video?
Greetz
enable CV from gatekeeper, but turn the volume of that channel down, then assign the sidechain input from gatekeeper into Filtron, then use the internal modulation :) check out adrenakrohm's video on it
@@DashGlitch cool thx, will try it out. 😊
@@DashGlitch got it!!! Thx 🙏
@@DashGlitch Thanks for the shout-out, Dash.
forget the plugin, I wanna hear that amazing loop again!!
nice. could be cool with envelope follower ability ;)
use the sidechain input ;)
I've thought the same a few days ago. Have it on 2-3 tracks already😅
Thanks for this! Would be very interested to know more about the Gatekeeper integration. You could already make Gatekeeper send out internal MIDI CC, but ‘CV’ makes it sound like it can express more than just 128 values. Do we know what the quantisation of Gatekeeper outputs is, and does the CV have more detail than the MIDI CC
CV = audio rate
@@DashGlitch Do you think it has more than 128 values for the position of a parameter?
@@kunekshan Yes
It goes to eleven. ❤
interesting technique
Thanks Dash. I'm really trying to cut down on plugins. While this sounds good, is it really doing anything that Fab Filter, etc. cannot do? I know it's a personal thing... but is this going to give me something different and worth the install? Thanks. ✌
Good question, on a technical side it's a zero-delay filter design which I believe is pretty rare and I believe what makes it so responsive, and perhaps also what makes it sound so good. I don't know too much about the in-depth stuff, it's a tad heavier on the CPU that simplon would be - but it's a pretty big technical advance in the internal technology as far as I understand it. I may be totally misunderstanding things though, I'm not too clued up on DSP.
@@DashGlitch Thanks Dash. I appreciate the reply! Helpful 🙏
I'm someone who goes pretty ham on filter plugins, they each have their own sort of sound, strengths, weaknesses etc. At the low cost of free it can't hurt to add it to the toolbox. That being said, Volcano is definitely still worth the buy if it's catching your interest
@@andrewjohnson5227 Good point. But shhhh... Volcano is my secret weapon. 😉
Damn, i need more CPU 🥶
Really like the gui, nice and chunky. Def sounds good too. Would love to get it on iOS. I’d pay $5-10 for it!
bro make a tutorial n HY-Plugins - Sequencer Bundle
🔥
like they tasting wine XD XD XD XD XD lol!!
i put that filter on my kick and it sounded horrible. as soon as it kicks in, the kick gets distorted without the filter actually doing anything. am i doing it wrong or is it just trash?
There's saturation built into the filter, you're likely sending in a very loud signal - hence the distortion. Try reducing the "in" or "drive" parameters. But also, why are you filtering the kick?
@@DashGlitch wanted to use it for breaks, because i dont like auto filter in ableton too much. i thought it would sound better
It REALLY should have a wet/dry knob !!!
TBF most DAWs have that as a native feature, Rack or Container. I think modulation would be a more suitable feature, but again, most daws...
Sure, and most DAWs have a filter.
@@GizzyDillespee Do those stock filters have a dry/wet? very few ;)
How many poles? No slope control??
12db 2pole fixed.
correct, like i said it's pretty basic, but there's something about it that's jut really nice
I laugh when I hear people describe wine like that. It's grapes, people. Grapes. 🤣
I detect bouquet of skunk with hints of old chewing gum.
I wonder which DAW he uses， it seems isn't Live.🤨
Bitwig
thank you@@DashGlitch
which Modulator did you use 5:23?
Curves + ADSR
@@DashGlitch I appreciate if you could tell me, how to modulate filtron on Ableton without gate keeper?
@@Ravenmusik Doesn't ableton have modulation devices?
So warm and dirty.
with overtones of citrus :D
Thanks