Udio ai Deep Dive Prompt Hacks And Thoughts So Far
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
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I will go further: Once it generates something i like, I will split the stems, do audio to midi, take the miditracks in my daw to replace the instruments. Than I will take the isolated vocals to some AI Vocal modell to get a good, clean vocaltrack and: Tada: AI generatet Layout, handmade produced finish.....
Great comment!
I have just retracted a whole song. I have not done audio to midi, what are you using to get quality results? I've not had much luck with logic especially trying drums.
And why don't you write the song yourself? That wouldn't be more or less work.
@@thomashambrecht6435 I write Songs for 25 Years, being a professional Composer with over 120 published Composition. So its not that I couldnt.
Its not about a song, its about the fascination, its about learning new tools, and last but not least its about new methods that maybe give a little of the spark back you loose in this time, even when you got the most fullfilling job that even makes you totally ok with the fact that (and statistically 93% of all professional musicians wordwide do) you are struggeling.
Good answer?
@@thomashambrecht6435 Wir hätten glaube ich auch Deutsch sprechen können...lol
Stem separation on guitar is hopeless. Audio to midi on guitars is even more hopeless.
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Thats what i do as well With Suno and it works just fine.
Nice. I have been doing that on Suno. I will try with Udio. Thanks for the tip and for watching.
The green circle with 2/2 or 4/4 is the tracks it’s produced for you in this session, it resets to 0 once you’ve left the site, as for the prompts you have too many, and it will always take the first prompt and try and include the second, it doesn’t do key signatures time signatures or bpm, what I have found is if you add say…. Drum n bass, bjork as a prompt it’s try’s to match her way of singing, but doesn’t include her voice, loving this udio, just keep playing and creating while it’s free, the best thing I’ve found out is [verse repeats] for quick tracks, and [spoken] or [voice over] anyone else know anymore ? I just love to get a accapella of some stuff ive done😂😂
Thanks for the great tips. Acapella has been pretty hard to get for me as well. You could always use Ripxpro to separate the stems. But I imagine it would take a lot of work to clean them up properly.
Thanks for watching.
Let the Music Win Was the perfect Line.
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:14 *🎵 Comparison to Sononym V3*
- Comparison between generating hit and pop songs in Sononym V3 and Udio.
- Discussion on using the same prompts to test the song generation process.
- Noting differences in vocals, key, and BPM settings between platforms.
02:34 *🎶 Song creation process in Udio*
- Limitations of 33 seconds per generation in Udio.
- Review of glitches and disclaimer messages in Udio.
- Explanation of issues with genre-specific song generation in Udio.
06:12 *🎸 Successful genres and music styles in Udio*
- Demonstrating successful generation results in genres like Americana and Jazz.
- Expressing challenges in generating specific genres like gospel music in Udio.
- Exploring the range of musical styles available in Udio’s generation process.
11:01 *🎤 Fine-tuning pop song creation in Udio*
- Experimenting with different settings to achieve a modern pop song.
- Commenting on the progress of generation speed in Udio.
- Comparing the effectiveness of different prompts and adjustments in song creation.
18:05 *🎵 Adding and troubleshooting intros in Udio*
- Addressing issues with instrumental intros being generated as vocals in Udio.
- Exploring the functionality of adding and extending song sections in Udio.
- Sharing tips on adjusting prompts to improve the genre and content of song generation.
29:55 *🎵 Udio AI Music Generation*
- Udio AI can generate fantastic music based on user preferences.
31:20 *🎵 Udio Terms of Service*
- Udio's terms of service grant complete ownership of the generated content to the user, as long as they don't manipulate the platform's algorithms.
32:01 *🎵 Udio Software Capabilities*
- Udio is excellent for writing traditional country songs and for sampling without worrying about royalties.
- It may not be suitable for metal music generation yet, but it excels at other genres like hip-hop or lo-fi.
33:05 *🎵 Future Features and Controls*
- Email communication has been made regarding the potential inclusion of stems and MIDI control in Udio.
- Stems functionality is part of the future plans for Udio, providing users with complete control over their creations.
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Wow you really broke it down. Thank you
I think that pop song was feeling rushed because you fed it too many lyrics. Every clip is 33 seconds long, so eight lines of lyrics does not give the song much room to breath.
That's a great point. Looking back it , my thought was it would stop after the verse or just start the chorus. I will try just doing verse 1 and see.
@@ChrisUnlocksAI If you want consistency (the melody remaining the same over multiple verses/choruses) the first generation needs to contain one verse and one chorus. And remember it must all fit in a 33 second clip, so lines sould be pretty short, and not too many lines per verse/chorus... oh, and it often has problems if the number of lines is uneven.
It IS definitely possible to get a catchy song, but it takes quite some work - despite what some may think, AI doesn't just do everything.
Some tags I use a lot are "melodic" and "sing along".
You can check out a couple of my efforts, if you search for the titles "A Little More Like It" an uptempo Dixie Chicks-like country song with a spoken intro (I did this to work around the intro-problems you also mention)
There are also two very different versions of a song called "Reaching for the Drinking" one is a western swing style, while the other is a rowdy Alan Jackson-type song.
There's also an (unfortunately incomplete) Bryan Adams-type song called "Great to be Alive" with a different version (pop ballad) named "Bonfire Moon" - two hymn-like songs called "Beautiful One" and "Me oh My", the latter changing over time due to the inconsistency-issue mentioned above so the last part of it sounds like old Smokie (Living Next Door to Alice-style)
Special mention to a track named "Nocturnal Embrace ext v1" - so incomplete and flawed I didn't even bother to name it properly. It was an attempt at creating a sound like classic Electric Light Orchestra, and the lyrics are all over the place with emphasis the wrong places, rushed lines and some weird chord changes, BUT in essence it sounds EXTREMELY close to the ELO sound, maybe too close... since Udio downright refuses to extend it as if it's forbidden to continue on that path, and I've also been unable to recreate anything remotely close to that sound since, with UDIO more or less insisting that "symphonic rock" must refer to "symphonic metal"
I also made a couple of songs for Ukraine, but here I run into the same problem as with the ELO thing, that UDIO seems to insist on going metal, almost no matter what I do... metal or some obscure noise-rock, alll because I want to use tags like "anthemic", "solemn", "majestic", "hymn" etc. - even if I also include tags like singer/songwriter, melodic, pop, folk etc. it still gets overruled by the metal/noise-rock urge. It took a million efforts to get anywhere near something I could use.
I've been using Udio and Suno for the past few days, I gotta say I like Udio more, I'm mostly a metalhead, so anything I wanna mess around with regarding that, I've had better experiences with Udio. At first I didn't like that Udio only did 32 seconds at a time, but now that I've worked with it a bit and played around with it I like that more, the songs feel more malleable to how I want them to end up.
Suno is fun for electronic music when I wanna do that, It's also easier to just do one offs and not think about it too much.
Suno is the instant gratification generator (not super literally) whereas udio is better if you wanna be meticulous and form some in-depth aspects of your songs.
This is a very fair assessment of both tools. Although I have gotten some pretty awesome metal from Suno. I do really like all the controls Udio is giving us. I'm hoping Suno will take notice and do the same. Thanks for the great comment and for watching
Whoa...quality is MIND BLOWING!! How did you master a Suno song?
Glad you liked it. I dropped the song into Logic Pro and used the built in mastering. It's a simple tool yet gets pretty great results. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Just like everything else Ai - Sometimes you just have to roll the same prompt until you get a good seed.
Definitely. Thanks for the encouraging comment. And for watching.
UDIO does tend to make the previous parts muddier when it extends them. I assume this is due to it storing the previous 30sec sections in MP3 or some lossy source and so multiple lossys tend to get muddy, less dynamic and quieter.
Great comment. I agree 100%
18:46 Sometimes Udio uses mocked languages. It sounds like Japanese, but it's not really Japanese. In like manner, it sounds like English, but it's not real English. It's how a Chinese standup comedian would mock English phrases.
So crazy how it takes liberty to just do whatever it wants. Thanks for the information. And watching.
Have you tried manual mode, which takes out the systems influence and adhere's more to your style and genre prompts.
I was going to try manual mode for the first time because of your suggestion and I'll be damned if it wasn't removed. Is the feature still available for you?
Yes I have used manual mode. It does a little bit better m, still not 100% of the results I am looking for. Thanks for the great comment and watching.
It's still working for me @daboone77
regarding the Instrumental Intro having gibberish, i have encountered this, and i know what causes it.
when they import sample songs, they tell the AI what the lyrics are, and unfortunately, SOME songs have people talking or background chatter that is NOT listed in the lyrics. so the AI obviously think that that is part of the MUSIC, since no lyrics were given for them. so sometimes (not often) Udio will give out intros like that, with random chatter, since it did not perceive that as lyrics, it doesn't need to make sense. "it's all just music" to Udio...
Interesting. I hadn't thought of that, definitely could be it though. Thanks for the comment and watching
you gotta keep meter in mind when reproducing genres. capitalization, format and periods help alot on both udio and suno. on udio the prompt has a auto and manual mode, if you noticed it added alot of extra genre tags to your gospel project, might have been closer on manual. i got a fat playlist of stuff i made on these, but heres an example of how i messed w meter in genre -
ruclips.net/video/wuGx6MThx30/видео.html
Yeah I did so many variations on the gospel with not much luck. I was wanting the very fast upbeat bass, keys and drums. I just could not get it. I will check out your videos. Thanks for watching and the great comment.
@@ChrisUnlocksAI ikr, the amazing crapshoot variations it spits out, makes me wanna make like 10 versions of everything XD
Thanks brother! First one after many udio videos for going a bit deeper than just the hype vids that only play the most popular best made tracks on udio. I like your im with the producers and chatting with the homies styleas, as more personal. Toptip sort mic hum as a bit off putting and get a duck side chain compressor to auto lower the tunes when you speak or have separate audio channels as cant hear you well then. Last tip, ignore any critiscisms as comments can get a addictive, then we read a bad one. So just go with your intuition on your song and RUclips creations
Thank you, Thank You! I love Udios concept and what seems to be passion behind the project. Still needs so much work.
Also thank you for the kind criticism and words of advice. I had no idea I was getting a grounding noise. I found that if I have my MacBook charging when I have the Mic on it picks up noise. I have corrected that very rookie mistake. Please if you pick it up on another future video let me know.
Hey Chris! Awesome rocking out with you in this video! :D 🔥 I do AI tech reviews myself and am blown away by the amount of engagement (comments) and views you get! What is your secret to really getting in touch with your community? If you wouldn't help me getting in better touch with mine 😅😂 Thank you a lot for the time and consideration! And again, stellar video 🤟
Hey thank you so much for the kind words. I really don't know why people are leaving comments. I wish I had a secret tool to share with you. I do try to ask questions in my videos and suggest leave a comment below. I hope that helps. Share your channel with me I would love to check it out.
Thanks for watching!!
Also, is it possible to change the thumbnail image of a song on Udio?
Thanks for the great question. Yes you are able to edit the thumbnail. Thanks for watching.
Click on the name of your song, click edit then click image, write to AI what you want and you are done, if it gives you an error rename your song then make sure you click on the tick on the right hand to update, that should apply the image to.
@15:00 LOL - I think I knew where that was going from the song title glad you didn't cut it from the upload, ver funny... I find udio is far too random and frustrating to make it worth the bother. I wish that Suno3 was better quality as it in the main does what it's told.
Haha yeah it was going there. Udio can definitely be frustrating at times.
Thanks for watching
It would be great to be able to access the million of VST sounds that you can link to a computer keyboard or synth.
Could you imagine. 🤯 I really hope it evolves to that level.
Thanks for watching.
Try 6 lines max lyrics at a time for 33sec
Thanks I have been using shorter verses and not trying to add the verse and chorus at once. The .33 seconds is kind of a drag.
Thanks for the great comment, and watching.
I like Suno and subscribed. But the vocals and layering of sounds is way better on udio. I guess 33 seconds is easier for the compute power to make better tracks. Also it's weird when udio does gibberish even when I chose instrumental, so I just let it do outro with words. Had some really good uplifting melodic rap tracks with it. I find it satisfying too wo4k out what im feeling as a creative outlet. Therapy 😅
Also putti gin [ commands in rackets really helps] like suno too
I agree. Have you tried [Outro] then click the add lyrics and put [instrumental Outro]?
That may help
@@ChrisUnlocksAI great tip thanks! Will try it on tue outreach.. and go back to suno for more. Thanks for the relatable suno n udio producer content!
And oh yes the macbook pro does hum on the audio out whilst charging. Sorted now!
It’s insane to imagine how many music AI websites there will be all trying to outdo eachother.. I still prefer SUNO like a motha bleeper
I agree. Suno is boss! Thanks for watching.
Funny how to me.. it’s the most important invention since the internet itself!! I’d prefer this instead of Facebook in 2004 😂
I think you're trying to mix too many genres at the same time. Also tags and prompts to many , it causes conflict with the program.
That's fair. I have also found that when I use manual mode, I get far better results.
Thanks for watching.
Your video is good and helpful but unfortunately my experience with Udio so far has been meh. For some reason it refuses to give me what I want with the simplest of prompts. For example, it keeps giving me male vocalists even though I keep specifying "female vocalist".
Ironically, I've had a better experience and results with UdioAI, which I went to before Udio (not sure if the two sites are related).
Thank you for watching. It is still very glitchy. Perhaps try not specifying a gender, or say male voice and see if that helps.
I think Udio is great and is going to get really good. It's a long way from perfect. I would strongly recommend Suno V3 and see how that does for you. Hope this helps.
The later in the list of tags you ask for a male vocalist, the bigger the risk you will get ignored, so try the most important things first, like gender and main genre. I'm not sure Udio recognizes long commands like "a lighthearted song about a boy and his dog" - so try to think in regular tags instead and just use them. If you start typing something, the program will suggest tags for you.
@@teebodk3917 I tried using the suggested tag and it still didn't work well. I just think Udio needs more time to refine their AI/Algorithm.
Thank you anyway for the help though; I appreciate it and will keep in mind to make my prompts short and sweet and to use Udio's provided tags when available.
I was struggeling with the problem that it could not difference between sung and rapped lyrics....so lets see if you can help me with that, shall we?
Sure. I will see what I can do. Are you wanting the vocals to sing or rap or do both?
@@ChrisUnlocksAI Both. A rapped verse and a sung chorus...but never-mind, you dont have to do my job, I will find out how to prompt it right...
I found Suno most of the time did that automatically with no prompting on udio I actually said rap the verse and sing the chorus in the prompt.
@@Michael_Lak text in brackets will be spoken, not sung. AFAIK it's pretty intelligent in determining what you mean. If you assign a section as Verse, for example, and then put the entire verse in brackets, you should understand that you mean rap, provided it matches the musical style. I've done a couple of country songs with spoken intros and outros, and I didn't get rap for any of them.
It never follows my lyrics and after 30 sec ... Breaks down into nonsense... Its more a.s than a.i ..
I only have it sing gibberish when I try to add an instrumental intro. Are you using brackets for [verse] and chorus? That helps. Also Udio will only do .33 seconds so you can only put a short verse in there.
I think keep working with it especially since it's free at the moment. However you may want to get Suno for far better outcomes.
Thanks for watching.
[interlude] straight after your [verse] or [chorus] shout stop the gibberish afterwards (fingers crossed)
dont write sentences of what you want, use keywords. They are often in the suggestions, and are always in the description which keywords were actually retained.
Thanks for the great comment, it's definitely different than Suno in that way.
I couldn't get Suno to work
What is it doing? Maybe we can help, It's been working great for me since day 1.
I seriously dont understand why these platforms can't generate 5 minutes in one go ... Even if it takes 10 minutes to generate... , especially when you give em all the lyrics....
I think it's actually good to get sections of the song, it will help you craft what you want easier. If it did the whole song at once you may love the verse but hate the chorus.
Udio will only do .33 seconds however Suno will do up to 2 minutes. It's far easier and faster to get a 5 minute song from Suno.
Suno is well worth the monthly subscription.
Thanks for watching.
@@ChrisUnlocksAI The problem is, that you can't crop or copy/paste. There IS a crop option, but I can't get it to do what I want: whatever I do, it tends to crop out almost the entire clip.
sorry, where are the "hacks"? maybe i don't understand what that word means...or maybe YOU don't.
it looks like you were just fumbling around in Udio. this didn't really feel like a "deep dive" as much as a "test run". i think i understand more about how Udio works than you do. maybe i should make a video...
I think you would be far better off creating than complaining. Go make your videos and I wish you great success!
@@ChrisUnlocksAI just saying, your title was misleading. i thought i was going to learn something, not watch you TRY to learn something...
What I don't fully understand yet is why we will soon have 1 billion AI songs that will hardly be any different. The coming generation will then no longer want to make music themselves and so the AI model will remain the same forever.
I get where you are coming from. However I disagree. As a musician, I personally think of Ai as a tool like midi or synthesizers. I don't think it would ever stop people from wanting to actually create music, or even play instruments. I'm a bass player and you can replace everything I play with keys or midi. Yet I still love playing the actual bass.
Thanks for the great comment and watching.
That’s why the true artist the truth created a true musicians will always have an advantage. It’s easy for us to do the easy stuff but the pros who really take the craft seriously will always stand out. I’m not a Taylor Swift fan, but what she just did with her latest album release no AI Ican do.
Be the one who makes something different. You can use your own lyrics and try different genres, specify instruments and everything, if you want to.
I can only speak for myself, for I used to write a lot of songs back in the 90s and early 00s, but stopped because all I could do was poor midi files, and it just didn't seem worth it for me anymore. Now, 2 days ago, I decided to try Udio, and have already created songs that sound exactly like Alan Jackson, Dixie Chicks, Bryan Adams and ELO - this did certainly revive my inspiration... and before people say, "oh, but AI does all the work", let me say that it still takes quite a lot of effort to get things right. So there's still lots of work, the end result is just so much better than those old pathetic midi files.
I just had Udio deliver two great ideas today, totally out of the blue. I was making an Abba-esque song and was thinking of a climactic ending, when Udio suddenly threw in a children's choir for the fade. I absolutely loved it!
The other example was an eerie, haunting ballad called "Echoes of Embrace" (the title sort of gives away the mood) It features an irish-esque flute and as I was ending the song, Udio made this flute sound almost like a bagpipe or a klaxon... and put it on a loop, repeating the last tone again and again as the song faded out. At first I really disliked it and considered it a flaw, but decided to listen again, and realized, that once again it perfectly complemented the song, this lonesome, moaning sound, stuck in repeat for eternity, like... an echo of the embrace of the title.
These two examples above are both things I'd never in a million years have thought of myself.
producers are afraid theyll lose their jobs over this? this is just noise. 😂
Noise? lol. You wish, I'm sure.
The only change for producer will be that original hand crafted songs will be extra sought after, proving that it is hand crafted will be the tricky part
I appreciate the comment. I would disagree sometimes it does put out noise, however you can get just about any genre you want and with enough generations you can get something really, really good. I also think it's a great tool not a replacement.
You could produce an ai track and then completely re-record it and no one would ever know the difference.
@@ChrisUnlocksAI The differences would be subtle, E.G. bass would be bassier.
Udio can't make modern music. Why is everyone raving about it?
I think mostly it's the vocal quality, although they are definitely not all great sounding.
Thanks for the great comment and watching.
There’s no such thing as ‘modern’ music lol. It’s all recycled genres put together differently.
Yes it can, user error.
Which new music have you been listening to? Most of it is garbage that can easily be outdone by next gen AI
False. It can do modern metal, Dubstep, trap and edm with ease, especially trap and dubstep.