Did a STRANGE Effect Make THIS Guitar Solo Timeless? (What I Am)
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2024
- -Did a STRANGE Effect Make THIS Guitar Solo Timeless?
"What I Am" by Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians
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@TheArtofGuitar Thanks for making this video, Interesting takes! My solo you transcribed is the video single edited version of the solo. The full solo makes a little more sense. The pedal I used was a Boss T-Wah. It's an envelope filter. Jerry Garcia is most famous for using this pedal, in fact, many people to this day, think that's Jerry.
Auto Wha pedals Peak automatically and can't be controlled with your hands. These days I use a mu-Tron Micro. For the main guitar part, try using the Andy Summers spread ninth chord voicing with your pinky extended. That's the sound. Again, thanks for making the video. I finally made a video going over my parts and solo to be published soon. 🙏🏼❤️
Btw, I met Lars Ulrich a couple years ago, who told me they were fans and used to play our record on their tour bus. 🤘
No way!! Thank you so much for commenting. Quite the honor. Also thanks for clearing up the mystery. Seems like everyone was so sure but everyone disagreed on which effect pedal was used, so Boss T-Wah for the win. Confession: I was gonna do the full solo but was itching to get the video out (I was excited) that I went with the radio edit version. Still quite challenging. Thanks again.
@@TheArtofGuitar Thank again for the nice video, and it's fun to read the chat.
That would make my decade. How did you met them? I’m assuming you were playing the same festival or something?
Just wondering what was your inspiration for the solo?
That solo sounds great with or without the filter! It has a beginning, middle and end as they all should!
LOL just the contrast of Hetfield shouting lyrics and this soft alt rock band lightly singing. Thank you Mike for putting in the One edits.
every time I hear this song I think of Beavis & Butthead watching it and saying "shes pinching a loaf"
"They ripped this off of Popeye" 😂
"This chick is deep heh heh heh"
I had forgotten about that! Ah, the good ol B&B days
I thought she really was pinching a loaf?
😂
That lead guitar envelope filter sound…dialed in as it is…was made famous by Jerry Garcia on songs like Shakedown St, Fire On the Mt and Estimated Prophet. When I first heard the song on the radio back in ‘88 I thought Jer had added his touch to this song.
Before Edie joined the band, they were a Grateful Dead cover band.
That sound is from the Mutron pedal that Jerry used.
I did as well.
Mu-Tron
My ear still hears the effect when you played it the second time. It's been melted in my brain after all these years.
I lived in very rural Louisiana and my dad got a 10ft C-band satellite dish in 1982. Everything was on there including MTV. It was so incredible because I had just started playing drums and was in a band. Everything on cable and much MUCH more was on satellite and we went from two network channels and a PBS station to EVERYTHING! I bought And Justice For All. A cop pulled me over and threw the book at me when he saw the cassette. He said I was a sinner and going to you-know-where. He didn`t realize that album was about people like him. But my hometown turned on me for becoming a drummer, singer and musician. I finally joined a gigging band and escaped. I quit the band once when they booked a festival in my hometown but it was great because a young local drummer got to play his first public show. So that was awesome.
Very cool story. My father in-law had one of those huge, satellite dishes too. He paid to have someone hack the box every few months, in order to get all the channels. There were some really cool music channels in the early 90's. But they also got all the adult channels too. hahaha I loved watching their house with my wife when they went on vacation. I'd crank the stereo on all those concerts. They played "Judas Priest" 1983 concert. I almost blew the speakers, Fun times. Peace..
Dude- I hope you know how lucky you are to have lived where you did.
If I had a nickel for every time I headed out to the dish with a hair dryer when it was -20°f so we could get the damn thing to move.
So, after a while I started buying those music video tapes. Problem solved.
Dude- I hope you know how lucky you are to have lived where you did.
If I had a nickel for every time I headed out to the dish with a hair dryer when it was -20°f so we could get the damn thing to move.
So, after a while I started buying those music video tapes. Problem solved.
I had a similar issue. I moved from Chicago to this little town. The cops pulled me over and took my favorite cassette. I tried to set up a school dance but had to fight with the church to have them see my side of the issue.
I'll never get sick of looking at that guitar
It's wild to think this song came out in 1988. So ahead of it's time.
The solo has beautiful musical lines, it sounds terrific with or without the effect. The intro riff is classic too!
We were all uptight hardasses when we were younger with our music; that's part of being young and trying to find our identity as a human. Doesn't matter as we get older. And Edie Brickell sure hit the marriage lottery-still married to Paul Simon after 30+ years.
Yeah, I was still breaking away from the crap my parents listened to as well as what you said. Ironically some of that "crap" turned out to be influential. Go figure.
When I saw "envelope filter" I immediately thought of this song. I adore this song!! Jerry Garcia used an envelope filter quite a bit. "What I Am" is one of the most bohemian songs I've ever heard. And I think the effect helped the song to become a hit. Really good video, Mike.🙂👍
Definitely some Jerry Garcia influence with this band!
Yeah, like on nearly everything electric, live, once he got one.
Was the Mu-Tron out in the early 70’s?
@@CorbCorbin I dunno but you're right about Garcia using autowah a bit too much.
Kenny Withrow, I used to see him with the great GD cover band Forgotten Space. Any Deadhead instantly recognized he was using Garcia's tone.
I think both Frank Zappa and the Grateful Dead used envelope filters. I think the solo totally went with this song. Just fit perfectly. That's what made it catchy
That whole album is one of my favorites. Her voice is enchanting, and there’s some great, clean guitar work on several of the tracks. Most of the guitar stuff isn’t super flashy, but it’s solidly executed. Check out the intro to “Nothing”; it’s just clean and right.
What I like about this channel is that a lot of the time you reflect the same thoughts or opinions I had about music at a young age and also how some of this music grew on me. Im not a very good guitar player anymore since I had to choose between music and art, I chose visual art. However a quote I heard from my art school days applies to music. "Art isn't about choosing between this or that, it's a love affair" I think the same applies to music. You CAN like Metal, Pop, Indie etc you dont have to choose between those. All of it can be good to you, in fact if you listen to interviews from Metal and Blues musicians they often draw from many different genres, they're just in love with music. Great video here btw!
PS the envelope filter thematically reinforces the idea of water, it has a liquid sound to it. So when she says "chuck me in the shallow water" I think it's a very smart filter to use.
Nailed it again Mike! Thanks for going back in time and grabbing all these epic solos and bringing them back to the future.
I'm 95% sure it was a Mu-Tron envelope filter.
I remember when this song came out. It was 1988 and I was (And Still Am) a Deadhead. I'd been seeing them since '84 and I had a respectable tape collection at the time. When I heard this I said "He's Trying To Sound Like Jerry".
Jerry Garcia used this Mu-Tron 3 envelope filter steadily in the songs "Shakedown Street" and "Estimated Prophet".
If you're going to check those songs out listen to live versions. The fact is compared to how they sounded live, the studio albums were terrible. It's like comparing the songs from the first 3 Kiss studio albums to the versions on "Alive !"
Dude. "And Justice For All" and this Edie Brickell song came out in 1988. I was 27. (I'm 63 now). 36 years ago. You don't look like you would have been old enough to even remember these songs. At 46 that would have made you 10 years old. If you're that old or older, Man....I wish I could age as well. LOL. More power to ya!
This isn't the guitar solo and effect I was hoping you'd cover, but I love a good envelope filter and the solo on the Edie Brickell song does that well. There is a lot more "diction" or "articulation" of each note, popping off like popcorn, and it's all due to that effect. Playing it clean just doesn't "pop" with any staccato.
The solo and effect that really blew my mind was Steve Stevens' solo on Billy Idol's song Rebel Yell, particularly the "laser gun" effect that he uses in that solo. Is that one you'd be interested in doing a video about?
From hating the song and turning off the TV or the radio, to posting a YT vid all about the song; and recreating the solo! What a crazy ride it's been?? Cool content! 🤘🎶
I still hate this song😂 and the solo.
I was in the same exact place with this song. I remember that when it was out i was wearing a Levi's jean jacket with a Megadeth back patch on it. Kids were FAR more tribal when it came to music back then. Especially if you were a metal head.
Don't forget that fretless bass! The thing to remember is this song/album is with the New Bohemians, they deserve the credit for the amazing sounds and playing on this and all their albums!
Great video, as always!!!
Used to cover this song, and would use the opening 50 or so seconds of 'One' to fake the audience out. You'd be shocked how smooth the transition is. Interesting to see all of these years later both songs mentioned in the same breath.
I always felt like this song was ahead of its time and for some reason I always think it's a 90s song instead of late 80s.
I think the effect gives the solo a “bubble” sound that fits in with the “water” lyric and makes it work......simple, but effective.
I was the same way in the late 80s/early 90s, a total metal snob that didn't want to hear anything else.
Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians....great stuff! Fun Fact: Edie and Paul Simon have been married for over 30 years now. They have a really nice love story for anyone interested.
Ahhh that's so nice to know they are in love still
I still listen to this album to this day. One of my favorite guitar solos of all time.
Interesting. In the mid to late 1980s the Grateful Dead had a marked increase in their fan base, and anyone familiar with the Dead were way familiar with the envelope filter, so people just thought Edie/nNew Bohemians were hippies/ Deadheads.
"Uptight hard-ass." You just described my entire high school from 1988.
Great solo with or without the effect.🤘🏻
I have always loved that solo! Its really a combination of the solo and the effect
Absolutely love the song and especially the solo. Very good solo. The envelope filter takes it to another level!
Your my favorite guitar channel man. I might not be taking your course as of yet but I love all of these more fun casual videos discussing songs or certain player techniques it's so fun to drop by every now and then. You're the most "real" kinda guy I guess, most people put themselves or the lesson first but you're so great at doing both which makes these enjoyable and informative. Your childhood videos might be why I'm still playing guitar lol.
PS Could you do a video on Rory Gallagher or the guys from Sonic Youth?
Absolutely one of my favorite RUclips guitar channels for SO many reasons!
Love that solo!
Edie had two great albums in '88 and '90, her band was great. I still listen to both of them and I'm much more of a hard rock guy. Thanks Art. Craig says Mr. Nickel is a bad neighbor.
What a great guitar solo it is too. Fine choice Mike
I was knee-deep into South of Heaven and other Thrash gems at the time... but when I heard this is fell in love with that jazzy guitar riff and the Autowah solo... but mostly, that sick bassline!
Of course I had to learn that guitar riff (cuz learning jazz guitar, to me back then was like the cream of the crop of guitar -- and this "pop" tune was an easy starter)... but man, after I learned that basic riff... I picked up the bass and learned the hell out of that bassline!
I wore out my tapes of Slayer and Shooting Rubberbands at the Stars by the end of that year!
No autowah. I saw him use a wah pedal live. A big one. Maybe an old Morley.
That solo is really nice w/ or w/o the filter because it is nicely composed. The filter adds extra charm. It's like meeting someone you think is cool and want to hang out with because you enjoy your time with them, and it doesn't matter much if they wear that cool jacket or not.
I also have a nice relationship with this song. Prior to this I thought of myself as a "hard kid" because I loved my Slayers, Maidens, Motley Crues. When I emigrated to the US, this was one of the fist song I heard on MTV (along with Debbie Gibson and The Cure). I remember being like "bleh! what is this crap?!" out loud, and yet secretly adoring it, haha. Anyway, it is part of the soundtrack of my first months in San Francisco.
Always loved this tune
I fell in love with the radius top "Black Beauty" from the moment I got a cheap copy version as a teen. I still want a "real" one!
When we gigged it, back in '02, 03ish, I forget, I used a voice pedal that I also used on some The Cure stuff. It was close enough, played a Wurlitzer 4770 '64 (Rare as hen's teeth) through a Marshal.
I was always into Metal and Punk and still - I like this song a lot. Just went into my old mags and saw the tab and the chords - Jazzy stuff, but catchy as hell. Great vid as usual, thanks
I haven't heard this since back in the day. Lots of us hated this song back then; you're not alone :) What strikes me immediately now is what a cool bass line it has.
This video is awesome! And that song is still awesome!
Everything you said about your reminiscence of watching MTV, getting into Metallica, and ignoring Eddie Brickell echo my own experiences. It’s as if you knew what my teenage years were like. Then again, the musical tastes of teenage boys in the late 1980s were certainly heavily influenced by MTV.
I'll be honest... When this came out and I was a kid it was just a song that got played too much on the radio and I didn't much care for it. A few years after high school someone played the full album and I was shocked that there was so much amazing stuff on it. There was a song called circle of Friends that came at the right time in my life and it really made me go back to this song and appreciate it.
This is wild, Edie popped up my spotify feed a couple weeks ago, that first album was brilliant.
One of my fav super weird solos that I could never quite figure out was Stevie Miller's 'Abracadabra'
It is a pretty great sound with the effect.🎸🔈
One of the best tunes of all time.
I was a hard rock guy at the time. Playing a band but this song and actually the album sort of cut through and I really liked it. Haven’t listened in years. I saw them in 88 at the bandshell on Daytona Beach back when MTV was down there. They did a great set. I came away with a sunburn on my forehead that was sooo bad. I mean I truly broiled myself
I loved this song as much as i loved the metal I was listening to, and this solo has great feel to it.
It's an extension of the song, & thus doing what it should.
Haven't looked at the T-Wah effect on my Katana Artist in a while: now i have a reason!
Thanks Mike. That effect........ i now have a vicious circle of old WEEN songs bouncing around in my mind.
I’ll Be Your Jonny on the Spot
Phil Keaggy made great use of this on the song “Time”, both on the “love broke through” album, and on the live album, “how the West was won” with the Second Chapter of Acts.
The solo on “Sister Havana” was one of the first simple little licks, with an effect on it, that grabbed me
Ah growing up being confident and embracing what sounds good. Great video
This song cemented my love for sus2/4 chords in my head for many years to come. Stuff like Everlong and Take a Picture... IYKYK
I absolutely love this song.
It sounds like we are the same age. I, too, was just getting into Metallica with the release of And Justice For All, but I LOVED Edie Brickell from the start. What I Am is such a cool song with an awesome groove, and that guitar solo is badass.
Hey Mike, beautiful tone for the non-effect version! As for using that effect on One, well I think the producer would step in to keep you on track...
Thr whole album is great. Still listen today 👍
I suppose it could be asked, what other effect could have been used instead? Maybe it could have been recorded and kept clean? I feel like a deliberate choice was made here and it served the part and the song well. It's a great line even clean, but the Boss T-Wah added something positive to Withrow's contribution. (And yes, I agree it definitely puts it in the territory of sounding like Jerry Garcia -- like maybe they could play "Estimated Prophet" just after this.)
When this song first came out i thought "Cool, bands are listening to the Grateful Dead!" To this day it amazes me that Jerry and the MuTron are rarely mentioned when folks discuss envelope filters.
Great vid Mike!
Also want to add "Feel Like a Stranger" and "Fire on the Mountain" as other GD songs with the MuTron being prominent.
The solo from "I want to break free" by Queen is another known example of solos with filter.
Brian uses a Maxon/Ibanez AF9 Autofilter.
I too was into Metallica and Megadeth at that time, but was living in Dallas where Edie Brickell & the New Bohemians started out. They were the talk of the town and had played a lot in bars like Club Dada in Deep Ellum. It was a weird time lol
My understanding is that it's a Roland GP-8 rackmount using the auto-wah setting. This was actually the first time I ever heard the term "auto-wah," and it was both in conjunction with this song, and the GP-8. So... I'm just a tiny bit older than Mike here, which means at that time I was still a few years away from earning the kind of money to buy this sort of equipment, but I had seen the GP-8 (which had come out the year before), but had not yet been able to play through it. The area where I grew up in Northern CA was home to a lot of musicians from popular bands, as well as some studio guys, etc., plus a lot of rich folks and people in the electronics and computing industries, which means the guys at the much-loved local music store were quite well-connected. They also really were good to us youngsters. Anyway, my memory is a little fuzzy now on the exact details, but one day we came in and they were all listening (again) to the song, and it seems one of them had won a bet because he rightly guessed it was the GP-8. Somebody, either a studio guy or a Roland rep, or some such, had just been on the phone with them, and as they explained it, the producer of the song had talked the guitarist into using it (it was debated at the time whether it was really Kenny Withrow or if it was Robbie Blunt who played it), but the band didn't like it at first because they thought it would come across as "gimmicky sounding." Anyway, as we watched, the guys at the store plugged into their display model and dialed in the exact - and I mean EXACT effect and sound. That sparked a whole argument amongst my friends as to how "real" the guitar sound was, since these guys had basically been able to duplicate it through this processor (but then, some of my friends at the time were really ignorant about this stuff).
Great, now I gotta buy one.. :)
Literally just bought one. :)
I used a 1985 Boss T-Wah. Auto-Wha pedals work automatically, controlled by a speed knob. As opposed to envelope filter, where it follows the dynamics of your playing to trigger the peak wah. And I'm afraid I can't confirm any of your story there. I had been using my boss pedal for years before we recorded the first record. A friend had just gotten out of the army, and his army guitar instructor used a Boss T-Wah. He played bebop lines with this thing, and and it sounded amazing. So I got one. And yes, I played the solo.
If you like that I recommend the Grateful Dead song "Estimated Prophet" or "Shakedown Street". Those are big envelope filter songs, Jerry Garcia...
I’m guessing you haven’t listened to any Grateful Dead from the late 70’s through 1995. Jerry Garcia used an envelope filter on a lot of songs. I had heard that the guitar player from the New Bohemians performed the solo as a tribute to Jerry
With or without the filter, excellent solo.
Rock guys will never admit they liked a song like this, we would never hear the end of it from our friends
I'm 99% positive it was the Boss FT-2 Dynamic Filter because I only know of that pedal from this song, and the one that's on my floor. They're great.
A Fantastically underrated guitar solo (and song really). It is awesome with or without the effect honestly, but I don't think it would have been a hot without it.
edie brickell's cover of a hard rains gonna fall is the balls
Awesome! I had already had my metal phase so was open to Edie and the New Bohemians. Plus my girlfriend at the time was big into them which helped 😂
As mostly a Thrash, Hardcore, Deathmetal guy people are always surprised to hear that, in fact, I absolutely LOVE this song!!! 🎶Philosophy. Is a walk on slippery rocks. Religion. Is a light in the fog.🎶 And yes, I think that the lead stands on its own. Envelope filter or no.
My Dad bought this album in 88. I remember him liking that guitar!
Still a good solo in my opinion. Thanks for sharing!
Love is on the way! Chord progression 🤫
Ya, always wondered about this one, I figured it was an auto whah. I loved the solo, was and still am a metalhead, funny you also mentioned Concrete Blonde, loved James Mankey's solo tone on Caroline and Joey.
The solo is cool both ways. The phrasing and groove are very appropriate.
This is similar to a thing I do sometimes while jamming or messing around. I try different gain levels / tones / effects for certain leads or other song parts. One of my favorites is the solo from Santeria at different gain levels. You could probably make a whole series out of that concept (if copyright doesn't screw ya)
I remember that song, envelope filter is probably correct. Song has a great relaxing groove
Envelope filter and mixolydian are like peanut butter and jelly. Thanks, Jerry.
There are other songs whose effects-driven sound is part of the hook. That phased cymbal at the beginning of Kashmir and other phased drum parts come to mind.
I believe the effect in that song is done with a electro-harmonix mini synthesizer. A buddy of mine had said pedal years before that song came out. I remember that sound that came out of this set up.
I like the solo was pretty cool with out the effect. But really cool with it too. I like both.
Anyone watching who hasn’t heard The New Bohemians Montauk recording, I can’t recommend it enough, even more for musicians.
Dude, your Gibson custom pro is my dream guitar!
It's a well-written solo with or without the filter.
Damn, I was expecting it to suck without the wah (5:20). But I actually like it _better_ that way. Fascinating.
Thanks Mike.
Nice ! Joey is great
Need to combine the envelope filter with a voice box. That would be trippy.
very "Shakedown Street" like!
Hi Mike.
That solo have always intrigued me. Thank you for solving the mistery about the effect he used. I 've always thought though that if he played that solo with a regular distortion or overdrive pedal, it would be so much better.
I never really like that effect. It reminds me the solo from Radio Gaga, they sound similar. It's a silly sound for my taste.
Wah pedal. I saw him use it live.