Precious Metal P-51D (XR) Mustang 2013 qualifying run
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Thom Richard and Precious Metal going up for the teams qual run to set their place on the poll. Thom ended up with the 6th fasted speed of 440.385mph, not bad for having to put the semi stock engine in just before Reno due to a problem with the race engine.
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I was part of the team that originally built precious metal in 1987. The only thing "original P-51" on the whole airframe is the tail, from the rudder on back. To get the griffon motor to fit, the firewall was moved rearward by almost 2 feet to keep the airframe within the CG envelope. At one point in time, one of the original designers of the P-51 consulted with us during the build. The project manager for the build is still restoring and maintaining P-51s today.
What about the belly radiator? Looks like P-51.
Im not sure if I like that canopie. you could have mad it look more like a P51 A
@@eliaslundstedt5607 The drag was probably too high. In racing form follows function.
Lotza $$$$$$!!!!!!!!
Cockpit looks more like a "C" model than a "D" model.
Aside from the beauty and performance o the aircraft, i am most impressed by the photography. It's rare that this type of recording can keep the subject in frame and focused 100% of the time. This is exceptional.
dhy5342 now the photographer needs to video a Bigfoot lol.
nathan, Bigfoot exists naturally out of focus. If you ever see one in focus it is a fake.
a beauty. +1 nice photography here for sure
Rick Std llllllol',,kmkkjjkjjjjjjjjjujjhhhhumn. Ggg
Recording done by a truely well educated photographer using manual focusing :-)
“You know what this propeller needs, another propeller”
You know what this 'Stang needs? Another Mustang.
Seth Jansson F-82 laughing in the distance
@@j-c4997 No...we mustn't speak of that oversized Frankenstein creation...
@Mark Grudt
It's all about the need for speed.
@Mark Grudt the original mustang had a Packard v 12 and the performance was OK.. tben rolls Royce sent them a merlin..and the p 51 became a true fighter..now its got a grown up engine.. supposedly there were 3 of these prototypes in 1945
The mighty Rolls Royce Griffon, one of the most powerfull V12 engines ever made.
British - remember that.
Truly one of the best prop planes ever built not just for his power and speed but it's control and handling definitely decades ahead of its time
man i love the stock ass p51D that rolls by in the background, kinda drives home how different these racing rigs are
I KNOW, when I saw that I said "now THAT'S a mustang"!!!
With the counter rotating props and that big RR Griffon engine...
cranked up my speakers and the sweet sound of forced induction V12 made me cry tears of joy!!
Love it...
Bucket list trip is the Air Races to see these magnificent beasts in action!
A real feat of engineering to see a 76 year old plane design still flying and viable in 2017.
Precious Metal Is the most beautiful aircraft .those counter-rotating props are incredible.
I have flown P51 mustangs in the past. I find that there is no other plane like the P51. Its a bat out of hell. Love it. Charles
Except a spitfire
@Ibraheem Khan after the spitfires
Or a Sea Fury?
Or the flying pancake
Defiantly a bucket list thing to do
Man, I love the narrow sleek canopy it really works with the lines of a Mustang.
I have an unrelenting passion for prop planes, there is nothing like a low and fast prop buzzing past. That sound is like music to me.
Duane Ransom yes its the sound of freedom 🇺🇸🎉🎊
Buzzing AND roaring
That sound just says POWER. imagine flying one of those in ww2. Lol
To every Motörhead I sure hope so
That aircraft moves :) what a beautiful machine.
When I saw the thumbnail i thought I was looking at a RC plane...boy was I wrong. Absolutely beautiful plane and camera work!👊
Kentucky Blugrass
Well someone did build a RC versions of the plane complete with counter rotating props.
Me too! Glad I checked it out.
Same same
RCitsverygoodOk
@@tragkfshnt Any footage of that?
That melody from those blades is impressive, I love this aircraft
I love this plane because it gives us a look at the last Spitfire that never was. In 1945 Supermarine developed a Spitfire with the Mustang lamina flow wing and a 2400hp Griffin engine with contra rotating props. Because it no longer had the iconic elliptical wing they renamed it the Supermarine Spiteful, only 17 were built and it never saw service as the jet age had arrived. However the power plant was used in the Shackleton bomber, I assume that is where this planes engine came from.
So now we have an idea of how the ultimate Spitfire would have performed.
The Spiteful didn't have contra rotating props, it had a single 5 bladed prop similar like that on the Hawker Sea Fury
You're thinking of the Spitfires later variants.
@@devinthierault
@Josh Jack You are both correct, all the Spitefuls built had the Sea Fury 5 blade prop but material I have read tells that this was an interim development stage and the intent was to use the still under development contra prop system.
Reminds me of the old Red Baron Flying Service P-51 that crashed with Steve Hinton at the controls, in 1979 at Reno. When we saw the fireball we figured he was a dead man. But he survived with a broken back, leg and ankle. they said his cockpit was almost a mile from the main wreckage.
In 1978 I saw the Red Baron P-51 in the Unlimited Race from one of the turn pylons. Amazing speed!
The red Baron plane was owned by the Browning family in Idaho falls, Idaho. They eventually went broke for all their big spending.
Must be nice not having to stomp heavily on the rudder when the power is applied .
be a dream to take off - gun it and go!
I was going to say. Especially during takeoff.
From my understanding, gyroscopic procession and P-factor would still affect it, just torque would not be as much of an issue. Still needs more right rudder.
@@stitch2k1 Of course, but significantly less than the one you fly with a standard prop (if I assume correctly).
@@guntherachterhof4876 Oh yeah definitely. You can't full throttle a (stock) P-51 on take off from the go or you'd go off the runway. (Generally speaking we always ease power on, because more air speed means better rudder authority)
The sound of the P-51 just gives me goosebumps!
That's not the original motor
@@joshlewis5065 the propulsion of the P-51 is not a motor, it's an engine.
@@skypilot49 pedantic bastard
@@skypilot49that’s not the original engine. It’s a rolls Royce Griffon, not a packard Merlin
PM is one of my favorite aircraft,...and OH the UNIQUE wail of that Griffon and contra-rotating props. AWESOMENESS on display.
So sad its all gone now, Im very thankful to have been there thru the fast times.
The P-51 is the scariest prop plane ever made. It's just a beast.
Not even close of the Fw 190 D models
the left to right to left to right head movement to stay aligned to runway for departure and landing...a work of art and patience
This sound is one of my most favorite sounds in life!
Rolls Royce make amazing engines that's for sure
"Jip." They dont make anymore. ♥️💪💪💪😃
Qualifying time is near the current seaplane speed record set in 1935 by an S. M. 72 which also had counter rotating props
Counterrotating props on a P51... that's pretty wild... and the sound is very interesting. thumbs up
Double prop !!!! This speed, it's crazy !!!! 440 mph ?!?!? Wooaaaaaah !!!! 😳😳😳.
I'm fan !!! 😍😍😍
More crazy is that the RAF had a twin engine bomber (De Havilland Mosquito Mk B35 apparently, with Merlin 77 engines) in 1942 that achieved 437 mph with and could cruise faster than a P51 all the way to Berlin and back.
Pity there's none in airworthy condition or any P38 Lightnings to compete if there is a class ?
Awesome plane... That doubled propeller looks absolutely CRAZY...
"DOUBLED PROPELLER"!🤣👍🏿
This is a real beast! Beautiful and fast. How great would be to have closer view of this miracle! Thanks
Counter rotaing props on a mustang ??? Please fill me in !
***** Precious Metal uses a larger-displacement Rolls Griffon engine, like the later marques of the Spitfire. If I remember correctly, the engine and contrarotating props are from a postwar British airliner.
Thanks, I was worried there for a bit !
nagmagnet I think the same prop was used on the later naval version of Spitfire.
BlackBunik No but it was used on the Russain bear
BlackBunik These particular blades came from an Avro Shackleton bomber and then were modified by the team, but you are correct the later Mk. Spitfires did use this setup, the Mk.47 being one of them, Supernarine also used this setup on one of their last piston fighters as well (Supermarine Seafang).
Really nice to see this old warbird turned into a speed machine.
Wow, I never knew the P-51 could be configured for a counter rotating duo prop.
Complete Griffon install from firewall forward, probably from a late Spitfire or similar British plane.
I watched that plane run @ Reno years back, scary beast.
Beautiful P-51D love the dual prop
This thing brings beauty to a new level.
I was on the old Red Baron team and there is nothing like the sound of the Griffon!
Wow! What a beautiful airplane and the performance is amazing. And also, Those 2 propellers spinning real fast looks kind of intimidating to me and the sound of the plane starting up also intimidating.
I have seen this video numerous times now. And the sound when this plane passes by gives me goosebumps - absolutely spectacular. Thank you for keeping these mashines going :-)
That was awesome! Well done and thank you for sharing.
Beautiful! I had one take off right over me..i was at the end of the runway. So cool! Amazing sound and power!
Counter rotating props also help to reduce what is known as the "P" effect as well when flying. That is the technical term to when a prop produces so much torque that it will make turning, taxing and taking off with the aircraft harder on one side than the other. As developers started to produce engines that produced more torque, the "P" effect really started to become a hindrance. So much so that you either needed special training in how to counter this effect, or something like a counter-rotating prop. Look at the Russian T-95 "Bear" Extremely powerful turboprops, with counter rotating propellers
After about four hours flying I have my own "P" effect that no amount of right rudder will solve. I usually bring an empty oil can, 10/30 would do,
I love precious metal to death. It's my favourite Mustang, and the only in the world with contra-rotational props.
The next day an AT6 arrived. 2 seat trainer as some may know. We did hammer stalls and a couple loops, no problem. Such amazing power power
Going 700+kph is an all time high!
not really
The Tu-95 Bear uses counter rotating props and I didn't know why that plane used CR props until I asked around which makes sense now....CR props are cool to see
Fantastic, very nice color of the fuselage of the Precious Metul plane!
Great takeoff then laps or tracks, maneuvering speed super video !!
your demonstration was awesome, 440,383 MPH and second pass 438,032 MPH, congratulations the pilote to all who participated in this video.
Thank you.
It doesn't get any better than watching Mustangs and the old World War II Birds flying and listening to their engine.
That's one fast Mustang. It sure sounds incredible and the paint job is super.
What a truly amazing looking plane.
running rough a little plugs or magneto , great sound great conversion , very intrieging contra -rotate props
I was at the 1999 Air races when Miss Ashley II crashed on Saturday. She was a beautiful aircraft which was highly modified with Contra-rotating props and a Griffon engine. She had learjet wings. Cause of crash was the rear stabilizer (somewhat similar to the Ghost crash) came off and torque tore off the wings and the fuselage landed on an unoccupied Winnebago in an eastern community. Pilot never stood a chance.
listen to her purr....best music I've heard on a video in a while.
I flew my P51 so much I finally wore it out.
So a friend of mine gave me his P51 - said he was not flying it much anymore....had moved on to jets.
No, not the full scale.....an RC plane.
I love the carbon clean out, lean out procedure to taxi parking cool down. What an amazing creature. 😍
What a beautiful masterpiece!
People, these birds were modified years ago and they are the last of the modified racers. Only a handful of them are modified now. A number have been returned to stock.
A beautiful fighter, very interesting with the twin rotation prop’s
I think you're talking about the contra-rotating propellers, those were used on bomber aircraft like the Avro Shackleton.
Beautiful. But in all honestey it looks less like a D model and more like a B or C with the cockpit arrangement, which makes sense. I read somewhere that the earlier models without the bubble canopy were often used with the highest quality fuel to run down V1's since they had less drag than the D model, which made them quite a bit faster.
Yep, I thought so. No matter what a bunch of guys do, there's always this one guy. The guy that takes everything to a new level! That guy! In this bunch, this is that guy. Jezzz counter rotating prop on a P-51! Yeah thanks. Damn nice work.
Has an Avro Shackleton RR Gryphon engine and contra-rotating props, just gorgeous
I absolutely love the sound of Mustangs 😘
Trying to come out of a high altitude power dive with that monster would be 'interesting'. A beautiful aircraft. Does it have an original Rolls-Royce engine from the period? Note: I read down further and got the answer to the engine question. Until they were fitted with all those horses, it's amazing how the U.S. thought it had limited use. Refitted with the RR, and with the addition of extra tanks for further range, it became the perfect escort fighter for long range bombing runs. One of the top fighters of the war.
I noticed counter rotating props really slow down the plane with good control on landings,
that's a plus.
With the introduction of the Griffon, R-R changed the firing order from that used in the Merlin.
Quote from Wiki:
"Merlin firing order: 1A, 6B, 4A, 3B, 2A, 5B, 6A, 1B, 3A, 4B, 5A, 2B ('A' being the right bank as viewed from the rear of the engine)
Griffon firing order: 1A, 4B, 3A, 2B, 5A, 1B, 6A, 3B, 4A, 5B, 2A, 6B (changed from the Merlin to reduce stress on the crankshaft)"
The Merlin has a musical hum that gives you goosebumps and makes your hair stand on end.. IMHO the Griffon doesn't sound quite as smooth.
I think the Griffon has the same firing order as the Allison. The Merlin sounds more aggressive to me, like it's got radical cams out of a hot rod. But there's no replacement for displacement, and 2240 cubes beats 1650 any day of the week.
Beautiful ,absolutely beautiful. Love the counter rotating props so no torque problems. I always wondered how the p51d would look if developed further. ( There was a design in the 80's that used small jets to boost speed but it was dropped) .p51 d has always been my " pin up" of ww2 fighters. Poetry in motion. Best regards.
Those contra-props give it a distinct sound.
There is a supply of Griffon engines left from the Avro Shackleton maritime patrol aircraft. most probably came out of one of those.
They used the Shackleton quite long.
The propellers are surprisingly quiet for coaxial, contra-rotating design. Soviet coaxials tend to be very loud!
Soviet turboprop, not piston. +Speed spin
Is a very fine piece of technology with the modifications involved in the desing, but i prefer an original P-51D fighter plane, even today. She was a fantastic aircraft, with the Packard-Merlin engine and her frame line original, sorry my bad english, and greetings from Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina.
Your English is fine, your courtesy is appreciated
I like the counter rotaing props, imo it makes aircraft unique. its prob why i like the Tu-95 and the Ka-52
Contra.
That’s one sweet looking machine!
The back propeller has smaller diameter than the front one has. The blades seems to be a Rotol type, but it is different. The contra porp Griffon engined Spitfire has same prop diameters, cutted blade tips, the Shackleton also has similar contra-rotating props, so this one could be camde from the FR-47 Seafire.
kolbola This particular engine was originally from a Shackleton, then it went to the Miss Budweiser sponsored hydroplane racing team from the 80’s. The prop was a stock unit that the team had custom cut to have the scalloped tips.
@@Voodoo1650 Thank you for the clarification!
First time I've seen counter-rotators on a P-51. I believe Rare Bear runs them. Very nice sounds! -- I stand corrected, but I could have sworn rare bear ran them at one time in the past but I guess the memory is fading and I'm wrong. I do remember it had the largest prop I've ever seen on a single engine aircraft. There was a high-grade model of it on the corner of the bar at the Hilton Hotel in Reno. There was an aircraft that showed up every year. It did use a contra-rotating. Counter would be opposite direction of rotation I imagine.
Contra-rotating... P-38 has Counter-rotating.
Rare bear uses a single cut down C-130 prop. IIRC.
Maybe you meant Red Baron which was a red painted P51 with contrarotating props in the late 70s?
Oh my, what a sound that Griffon makes, and beautiful propellers too. In a Shackleton it was horrendous, but as a single... Fantastic. Now, anyone out there have a Napier Sabre engine for a P51?
Counter rotating props, Steve Hinton did it first in the Red Baron P-51 back in 1979..499 MPH world record...crashed it at the Reno Air races.
I watched that plane and crash on ABC's Wide World of Sport, in 1979 was it? Never forgot it. Steve Hinton was lucky to survive it. The plane unfortunately not so much.
wow double propellers. Amazing to see it fly 400 mph
The Shackleton prop is amazing. I wonder how this would have performed against the Axis planes in WW2 had they thought of it then.
+Neil L The British were working on counter rotating props but just didn't get them perfected until just after WW2.
They had the Spitfire Mk XIV with high altitude Griffons, there was an earlier low altitude Mk XII for running down raiding FW190s and V1 flying bombs. They were not *contra* rotating.
@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 the Martin Baker MB5 did
The MB5 had contra rotating props in early 1944 !
I saw P51 in fly! But this modernized P51 with speed 800 km/h! Incredible!!! I must buy it!!
That is an awesome looking and sounding Mustang. I would to visit Reno to see this
beautiful plane, it would be awesome if there was video footage from inside the aircraft as well
A millionaire hobby for sure. Imagine the fuel burn.
Not only a higher liter engine, but a considerably heavier load.
A long time ago I read that an original P-51 sold for a million. I would think that this "hobby" is more like NASCAR or F1 with sponsors and shareholders. I don't know what the prize money would be for an air race such as the ones in Reno but I'd guess it helps defray some of the operating and maintenance costs.
plus I believe they run ethanol injection, and most likely other goodies ( nitrous oxide allowed at reno?), so the fluid consumption all together must be prohibitive.. then again she's not made to fly cross country lol.. bet the boys back in ww2 would have loved one of these for recon runs over Germany back in 45' wonder how she's fare against a Dora 190, probably show it a clean set of heals lol..
If you think flying is just a millionare hobby then you'll never be one.
@@WalrusWinking Flying a Mustang is a millionair hobby
It has an almost jet-like sound to it when making the qualifying flight.
Contraprops are often louder than normal propellor designs, but have better efficiency, zero roll torque, and look cool as heck (obviously the best quality to have as a flashy racing plane, lol)
@@TheEmeraldMenOfficial I never thought that there would be no torque roll with this system. But it makes perfect sense. I imagine a more powerful engine is needed to drive the propellers. But two counter rotation propellers would always be better with the exception of cost.
I just remember something about the P51 Mustangs. The radiator provided some jet thrust. It behaved somewhat like a ram jet. Perhaps that may be part of what is being heard.
That's one heck of a roar it has, that's for sure.
@@silvertalon007 If this was Mustang revision were around during World War II, the Luftwaffe would have been a joke to the allied forces.
Griffon with Coaxial props...amazing
The greatest airplane ever built, with the exception of the A10, SR71, F18, the Wright Brothers first plane and the Wright B, and of course the B1, B2, and the b52. This one has the coolest sounding engine of them all though. The Space shuttle wins the coolest Glider award. GOOD LUCK in the coming race season... Fly Fast !
Stunning aircraft!
Bloody brilliant , your so lucky in the USA to have these aircraft flying and keep them flying in perfect harmony UK fan
Wow, what a beautiful and magnificent aircraft.
Uncredible! It is an issue to recognize a Mustang!
What engine is in her? Is it a Griffon? What a beautiful sound, when airborne!!!
George from the Cz. rep.
Correct: It is a Rolls-Royce Griffon 88 off of an old Avro Shackleton bomber.
Great video, good info that I didn't know and more to the point, Awesome Griffon sound! Thanks.
luvly one of the most beautiful planes i have ever seen.
P51, o Cadilac dos ares !!!! Amo este avião.
That canopy looks sleek yet tiny.
I was at the races that year. So it wasn't the fastest, but god damn it was one of the best sounding!Just another reason I love living a few miles from the Stead airport, and in such a quiet neighborhood. Except of course in the couple weeks around race time. I don't think anyone minds the extra noise.
I am very proud to to say I flew a p51 in fort myers Florida for an hour. It wasn't cheap but I would love to do it again.
They are very fun to get a flight in! Ive been fortunate to get rides in a Mustang, a Sea Fury, and my favorite, especially for its rarity, the F7F-3p Tigercat.
This hellbeast makes THE most awesome sound (apart from the Sea Fury)
Even radically modified, the p-51 is the most beautiful airplane ever made. Side note: did the counter rotating props increase the top speed at low altitude? And were they variable pitch?
Totally cool machine. 440 mph average. Damn that’s quick !!
The last production F4 Corsair could hit 440.
for unlimited, not really
that p51 has a great sound you gotta love it
It's a beautiful plane,sounds awesome...😎
I saw the burnt out fuselage of this guy a couple years ago :( I remember watching this thing fly as a kid at Reno
I love how this was "butchered," a real combination of art and high performance.
Looking at it sideways as in 1:47 there is a lot of down thrust on that engine installation. I like the prop tip design. If the trailing edge at the tips was slightly raked back, it would be even better. I designed water propellers and before I did formulate my design all I did was to look at sea creatures, like a shark, dolphins, whales, and also air creatures where all tails and fins at the tips have both their leading and trailing edges of wingtip feathers raked back.
This video shows the tail of a whale and the evolution of those tips means less wingtip vortex formed. The orca, dolphin, most fast fish, the individual feathers at the tips of a wing......... they follow the same philosophy for a good reason. I always felt that the wing tip of the Hurricane and the Spitfire had the wrong design and in fact, the Spitfire had a wing tip stall. (After 1950 the rake back of the trailing edge of wings became clear!) The ME 109 and Mustang had better wingtip performance than the British planes and in fact, the Spitfire had its tips cut down for a good reason. The design of my propeller tips is now incorporated in all seagoing vessels and what I did 50 years ago has now become so popular as propeller revolutions increased. Perhaps one-day aircraft propellers will accentuate the rake back of the trailing edge at the tips. Perhaps Precious Metal would consider rounding off the leading edge of the Vertical and Horizontal stabilizers as they did the main wing tips and perhaps consider the design of the leading and trailing edges of the tail of a whale at all the tips that are handling the air at a slight angle of attack. Food for thought for some designers, eh!
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Carmel Pule' I noticed that too, quite an extreme amount of downthrust.