for that price, I'd rather buy a Beelink n95 mini pc for $120. 8gb upgradable ram, 256gb full size nvme (upgradable), ssd slot, built in fan, and case.
It's not a fair 1:1 comparison - this device has GPIO pins. You can use it as a microcontroller like the raspberryPi. For example to control / build your own smarthome stuff, you can do anything with those pins as they are programmable. You can even configure them to act as an analog video output or input. It's also build to be very compatible with the raspberryPi platform and its accessories. Like small hdmi-touchscreens with brackets that are specifically designed for this exact form-factor etc. If you JUST go by specs and price (with everything included) you will find something better perhaps. But that isn't necessarily the reason why someone would buy this anyway.
I’d love to see a USB to Ethernet adapter attached and pfsense or opnsense run through its paces to see how well it would run as a firewall/router. And add in a Wi-Fi 6e or 7 access point (with 6 GHz) for wireless connectivity and have all bases covered.
The Radxa store on Aliexpress is showing the 16GB variant - no emmc (wifi??) - for about $123 + $9 shipping. The price premium for an extra 8GB seems a bit high, but the extra RAM would be useful in a number of use cases.
With 2.5GbE and USB 3.2 gen2, this SBC would make a decent budget NAS and/or backup server. You could even run SATA storage directly from the M.2 slot using an M.2 M key SATA adapter board. Someone needs to offer an enclosure that also holds multiple 3.5" hard drives and a PSU.
Eta prime can you do a video on a x99 motherboard with Intel xeon CPU combo for 41 dollars on AliExpress? I would love to see how you would do a budget build with it. Great video btw I love your channel!
Love to see Linux. Debian or Ubuntu would be good for me. I was also wondering if there is a source to purchase the device without having to pay a lot for the shipping? Good video as always Prime!
had the slowdown in Ratchet&Clank too, adjusted the EE Cyclerate to i think it was 130% but if wrong its 180%, it wont self implode ur PC or something, so no ones hurting by trying, it gets the worst slowdown out, still u can notice if u concentrate only on this. Still its better then going from 60 to 30 and between, also tried all renderers and its there with all of them
N100 mini PCs are perfect for Plex! It supports Intel QuickSync for hardware transcoding. Got one setup (from Beeline with 16GB RAM running Unraid) and can stream multiple 4K BluRay rips... kinda perfect for me running it at only 5W for the CPU.
This seems affordable and any old stock cooler could probably work. I very much enjoy this type of content over the tiny/mini/micro's with the latest AMD chip's (which are just too damn expensive, but, I'm not gaming and just want a cheap portable desktop, so maybe I'm niche).
I was impressed that MR ETA PRIME didn't mention that on a YT test, first, he went to YT settings and changed a video codec from AV1 to VP9 in order to be able to perform on this processor....
I've been waiting for something just like this. Can we see Linux Mint on it? I think it would be good to see because its popular and the entry price or this is so low; the true windows killer right here
I love seeing X86 come to that form factor, but with the extra cost for a heat sink, storage, case, power adapter and Windows license, you're probably better off getting a complete mini PC if your use case is just a little media center type PC. Or even a 4K Max Fire TV Stick that can run Xbox Cloud Gaming and emulators. The real draw to a board like this is if you can take advantage of the built-in GPIO and RP2040 (which makes that case design somewhat annoying). But hopefully these keep coming.
I'm sure a lot of people getting these aren't going to run windows...definitely runs better under Linux. Edit: looking further at this, it seems like a pi....as in they give you the base and you design the rest. No case/heatsink/fan included leans more that way. Like a factory would design the case/hsf for their work area ie: industrial design.
This definitely is made more for embedded and home made projects. I have a Lattepanda 3 Delta and this Radxa board makes me want to toss it aside because it's a newer gen chip and the Pi board footprint is even smaller than the Delta.
The combined heat sink/case is a must for the N100, but this SBC supports USB-C power delivery - the Radxa specs says it uses 12V at 2.5A, so just about PD adapter should work.
Just use the windows powershell to unlock your windows. Takes like 2 Minutes and the windows installer is free to download at the Microsoft homepage. I can tell you how to do it if you into "piracy". There are many videos on youtube.
Hello @ETAPRIME, nice review! I own this device and tried to stress test it in CPU-Z and only got 12W max. How did you get 21W? Did you changed anything in bios?
For that price for the hardware that's a really good price and it's a low end laptop CPU but compared to arm at least on windows Linux will good too on either arm or x86 but from my experience if you want the software and hardware support I would recommend the x86 over the arm chip for now. Also compare the price of the laptops that have this same chip in it and this chip is a steel compared to the arm equivalents. Also I would love to see this run an x86 version of Android and Linux especially since the driver support will be natively supported across any of those operating systems
What surprises me is that ETA did not report any thermal throttling, loss of performance, or high temperatures for the X4, unlike others. Additionally, there seem to be many misconceptions within the community regarding this board, particularly in relation to the N100 processor and power supply. However, the real issue-if you've noticed this with your device-has been successfully identified as thermal throttling, and quite possibly nothing else. In an experiment, a copper shim precisely dimensioned to fit the thermal boss of the Radxa heatsink and lay flush against the processor was installed. This completely eliminated thermal throttling and dramatically reduced temperatures to around 35 degrees. The experiment, conducted professionally by an academic, guaranteed an faultless performance from the X4. Undoubtedly, this is an excellent board of minimal size and high versatility, with plenty of head room for improvement. Let's hope the Radxa X4 is well received.
Would be fun to see Haiku OS running on this, just for giggles. If compatible, Haiku OS would probably run fine for decades on such a system, given its low system requirements.
It's neat to think that the N100 now is just slightly faster than the famous i7 2600K when it first launched (sure, that was in 2011, but machines were hardly dirt slow by that point).
This over the :PI5 all day long. The OS versatility alone for X86 is always better than ARM. The Pi5 also needs cooling, so a tad suspicious why this point was not balanced. The key advantage for the Pi5 is lower power consumption and those added I/O for cameras etc. We don't get confirmation about the speed of the USB 3 ports. I have read elsewhere that they are 10Gbps but the official site still uses the old 3.0 moniker. This fact alone would be crucial to my purchase decision as it would add appeal and value.
Energy efficiency ?? (compared to another powerfull ARM sbc) And how is that possible having up to 21W TDP ? When in Intel specs it has only 6W ?? (important in battery life)
I have the 8gb with emmc version and the first thing I did was try to hook up an RTX 4060 to it and play AAA games using oculink. As expected, the 8gb ram is not enough 😂 Radxa have a 12gb and a 16gb version listed on the data sheet I saw which would be interesting!
For the price this is really not that bad for a dedicated emulator machine that's compatible with modern controllers. I'd also love to see a linux video. Preferably with proton and emulation performance under a popular distro.
For a small form factor it's great. I would rather ha e this than a pi because of using windows and being able to use launchbox/bigbox. Great for a control panel type arcade setup.
Win11 with only 4gb or 8gb ram, I dont know... I know its asking for a lot to get so much in a tiny PC, but I would need this thing to at least a display port or better USB-C 10gbps, and 16gb ram so I can do more with it in Windows...then I would instantly buy it. I'll keep my eyes peeled for the next gen of this device.
Can the M.2 on it handle external GPU? Would be a fun thing to test (though one would need to run the linux/windows from USB or split the pci-e lanes even more).
I want to make an arcade cabinet to play modern Beatemups (Shredders Revenge, SOR 4, River City Girls 2). Would this be a good option to run those games through Steam?
I preordered this for one reason, and one reason only, its smaller than most of the n100 mini PC. I have a n100 beelink and it does great for my use case. But the x4 being pretty much the same but a smaller form factor , fits even better.
GTA5 is more popular than Cyberpunk2077(people still watches GTA5 live streams). Witcher 3, Fifa 22, PES 2021, PES 2013, MK X, Tekken 7 are more popular than Dirt. So, if a video includes more popular games then that video can have more views/likes. BTW i'm curious about this device's 1-2 hours gaming performance, for example at gameplays of AsphaltLegendsUnite(high graphics), Tekken7(high or medium graphics, 720p), PES2021(medium or low graphics), efootball2024(medium or low graphics, 720p), Watch Dogs 2(medium/low graphics)
I get that all the time as the nails on my right hand are very long, I play acoustic and classical guitar and so need my nails long, they are very clean though!
Consumer Electronics Control. It is a feature of some HDMI ports to share control signals between HDMI devices. Examples: Shared volume control and standby with a single remote. Does it work it practice? It depends how each device implements it.
id love to try this as a "car-puter" and im also wondering if theres a way to boot windows without m.2 or emmc? imagine running a tiny little gpu with this thing through the nvme slot with an adapter. take the vram load off the built in ram and see how it goes. 32gb emmc simply isnt large enough for windows and games though.
what is turbo freq for all cores? In CPU-Z test at ~21W it was only 2.9 GHz across 4 cores. Is it all-core-limit (and 3.4 is only for 1 core) or the freq it limited by power limit? (And as I wrote earlier: do not test iGPU performance in 720p/900p at 60+ fps because then the performance depends more on the CPU than on the iGPU)
I bought two today sadly only 8GB + 64GB EMMC versions are in stock sadly there are no heatsink + fan in stocks so I bought only 2 Radxa x4 8GB with 64GB EMMC I am thinking of using old Intel cpu cooler for it as I have one
Prime gets “Super Excited” a lot.
if you're still super excited after 4 hours its recommended to see doctor
And be pronouncing all the words with super accuracy.
@@chrisbullock6477 He can’t pronounce vibration. Always pronounces it viBERation.
Prime gets me to buy a bunch of computers lol
It's called kickbacks my friend...not excitement. 😂
There are 12gb and 16gb versions available. There are several retailers that sell them and and only some places carry all versions.
yepp, AliExpress also has the 16GB RAM version
I actually love the fact that you ran Cyberpunk on it. 😀 It truly gives one a benchmark of where this thing sits performance-wise.
for that price, I'd rather buy a Beelink n95 mini pc for $120. 8gb upgradable ram, 256gb full size nvme (upgradable), ssd slot, built in fan, and case.
Either that or the GMKtec Mini PC. You get far more bang for your buck with either option.
It's not a fair 1:1 comparison - this device has GPIO pins. You can use it as a microcontroller like the raspberryPi. For example to control / build your own smarthome stuff, you can do anything with those pins as they are programmable. You can even configure them to act as an analog video output or input.
It's also build to be very compatible with the raspberryPi platform and its accessories. Like small hdmi-touchscreens with brackets that are specifically designed for this exact form-factor etc.
If you JUST go by specs and price (with everything included) you will find something better perhaps. But that isn't necessarily the reason why someone would buy this anyway.
The GMK N97 would be my choice, but this is great too. 👍
GMKTEK for sure, this is rubbish
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Bro catfishing with the thumbnail!! I thought bro got a new set of nails I was about a hype mans up! 💅🏾
Fr I was like "ooh ETA Prime nails on fleek"
You need to review these embedded system sbc's other features beyond how well they run the same emulators
"MUH HECKIN VIDEO GAMES" is the only thing 99% of "tech enthusiasts" on youtube understand.
I’d love to see a USB to Ethernet adapter attached and pfsense or opnsense run through its paces to see how well it would run as a firewall/router. And add in a Wi-Fi 6e or 7 access point (with 6 GHz) for wireless connectivity and have all bases covered.
It's insane that n95/n100 is this scalable, from small sbc to full laptops
The Radxa store on Aliexpress is showing the 16GB variant - no emmc (wifi??) - for about $123 + $9 shipping. The price premium for an extra 8GB seems a bit high, but the extra RAM would be useful in a number of use cases.
@@dktol56 there is also 12GB version, was available for some time on arace.
You always do a grand job on reviews. Thanks mucho.
With 2.5GbE and USB 3.2 gen2, this SBC would make a decent budget NAS and/or backup server. You could even run SATA storage directly from the M.2 slot using an M.2 M key SATA adapter board. Someone needs to offer an enclosure that also holds multiple 3.5" hard drives and a PSU.
If there had been a second 2.5gbe port on there I'd be all over it for an OPNsense router build. Damn it.
16GB model is $123.22. For those prices, just easier to get a N100 mini PC that includes DDR4 16GB RAM 512GB SSD WIFI5 BT4.2 for $112.
They should have used the N97 CPU.
Eta prime can you do a video on a x99 motherboard with Intel xeon CPU combo for 41 dollars on AliExpress? I would love to see how you would do a budget build with it. Great video btw I love your channel!
Love to see Linux. Debian or Ubuntu would be good for me. I was also wondering if there is a source to purchase the device without having to pay a lot for the shipping? Good video as always Prime!
had the slowdown in Ratchet&Clank too, adjusted the EE Cyclerate to i think it was 130% but if wrong its 180%, it wont self implode ur PC or something, so no ones hurting by trying, it gets the worst slowdown out, still u can notice if u concentrate only on this. Still its better then going from 60 to 30 and between, also tried all renderers and its there with all of them
N100 mini PCs are perfect for Plex! It supports Intel QuickSync for hardware transcoding.
Got one setup (from Beeline with 16GB RAM running Unraid) and can stream multiple 4K BluRay rips... kinda perfect for me running it at only 5W for the CPU.
This seems affordable and any old stock cooler could probably work.
I very much enjoy this type of content over the tiny/mini/micro's with the latest AMD chip's (which are just too damn expensive, but, I'm not gaming and just want a cheap portable desktop, so maybe I'm niche).
You can definitely see the power difference with all the bigger components. Need a nice little heatsink for that chip.
I was impressed that MR ETA PRIME didn't mention that on a YT test, first, he went to YT settings and changed a video codec from AV1 to VP9 in order to be able to perform on this processor....
An x86 SBC in a Pi form factor. That's actually pretty nice.
but that n100 atom chip is a waste of money
It's not the first one, though.
@@JohnJones-pp3wd Not really, its pretty performant.
you are absolutely on fire lately
Enough power to build your NAS server. Even if you can do the very proper with ARM sbcs, too.
I've been waiting for something just like this. Can we see Linux Mint on it? I think it would be good to see because its popular and the entry price or this is so low; the true windows killer right here
This would work great as a NAS
Imagining a Zen 5 version of this would be awesome!
I really wish they'd used an N97 with it's 1200MHz GPU.
These are really cool little boards, but I just wish they would make better cases for them.
I love seeing X86 come to that form factor, but with the extra cost for a heat sink, storage, case, power adapter and Windows license, you're probably better off getting a complete mini PC if your use case is just a little media center type PC. Or even a 4K Max Fire TV Stick that can run Xbox Cloud Gaming and emulators. The real draw to a board like this is if you can take advantage of the built-in GPIO and RP2040 (which makes that case design somewhat annoying). But hopefully these keep coming.
I'm sure a lot of people getting these aren't going to run windows...definitely runs better under Linux.
Edit: looking further at this, it seems like a pi....as in they give you the base and you design the rest. No case/heatsink/fan included leans more that way. Like a factory would design the case/hsf for their work area ie: industrial design.
This definitely is made more for embedded and home made projects. I have a Lattepanda 3 Delta and this Radxa board makes me want to toss it aside because it's a newer gen chip and the Pi board footprint is even smaller than the Delta.
The combined heat sink/case is a must for the N100, but this SBC supports USB-C power delivery - the Radxa specs says it uses 12V at 2.5A, so just about PD adapter should work.
Just use the windows powershell to unlock your windows. Takes like 2 Minutes and the windows installer is free to download at the Microsoft homepage. I can tell you how to do it if you into "piracy". There are many videos on youtube.
the fact that sbc could even get in game on cyberpunk is amazing.
Hello @ETAPRIME, nice review! I own this device and tried to stress test it in CPU-Z and only got 12W max. How did you get 21W? Did you changed anything in bios?
For that price for the hardware that's a really good price and it's a low end laptop CPU but compared to arm at least on windows Linux will good too on either arm or x86 but from my experience if you want the software and hardware support I would recommend the x86 over the arm chip for now. Also compare the price of the laptops that have this same chip in it and this chip is a steel compared to the arm equivalents. Also I would love to see this run an x86 version of Android and Linux especially since the driver support will be natively supported across any of those operating systems
nice little board. ive kept the temps down to 63 under a stress test and running ps3
Question: What is the deal with the radaxa x4 12gb?
Finally he is talking about a device I can actually afford.
What surprises me is that ETA did not report any thermal throttling, loss of performance, or high temperatures for the X4, unlike others. Additionally, there seem to be many misconceptions within the community regarding this board, particularly in relation to the N100 processor and power supply. However, the real issue-if you've noticed this with your device-has been successfully identified as thermal throttling, and quite possibly nothing else.
In an experiment, a copper shim precisely dimensioned to fit the thermal boss of the Radxa heatsink and lay flush against the processor was installed. This completely eliminated thermal throttling and dramatically reduced temperatures to around 35 degrees. The experiment, conducted professionally by an academic, guaranteed an faultless performance from the X4.
Undoubtedly, this is an excellent board of minimal size and high versatility, with plenty of head room for improvement. Let's hope the Radxa X4 is well received.
Would be fun to see Haiku OS running on this, just for giggles. If compatible, Haiku OS would probably run fine for decades on such a system, given its low system requirements.
There is a 3D model of a Raspberry Pi 4 case in the shape of a BeBox, it even has space for a HAT to control the Blinkenlights and the Fan speed.
Would have really liked to see Linux Mint 22 running for a performance check.
This is perfect for a handheld DIY cyberdeck.
It's neat to think that the N100 now is just slightly faster than the famous i7 2600K when it first launched (sure, that was in 2011, but machines were hardly dirt slow by that point).
Would love to see Arch Linux (with KDE Plasma) running on this little beast! Thanks!
How about for passive cooling setup. Can it be done?
I’m constantly surprised at what these small low end units can do.
Love it ! Want one
This over the :PI5 all day long. The OS versatility alone for X86 is always better than ARM. The Pi5 also needs cooling, so a tad suspicious why this point was not balanced. The key advantage for the Pi5 is lower power consumption and those added I/O for cameras etc.
We don't get confirmation about the speed of the USB 3 ports. I have read elsewhere that they are 10Gbps but the official site still uses the old 3.0 moniker. This fact alone would be crucial to my purchase decision as it would add appeal and value.
It would be powerful enough to work in 2D animation with programs like Moho or photoshop? great video.
Super vid! Yes please to linux. My vote is Manjaro..
Linux please, it's always about compatibility with these SBCs
finaly, a good option to make a portable vcds without laptop
Energy efficiency ?? (compared to another powerfull ARM sbc)
And how is that possible having up to 21W TDP ? When in Intel specs it has only 6W ??
(important in battery life)
I'd love to get something like this but have it powerful and still same size to travel around with it
yeah with a ryzen 5 or something.
I have the 8gb with emmc version and the first thing I did was try to hook up an RTX 4060 to it and play AAA games using oculink. As expected, the 8gb ram is not enough 😂
Radxa have a 12gb and a 16gb version listed on the data sheet I saw which would be interesting!
What's the parameters of the power supply you are using? A standard adapter for Macbook Air will be sufficient?
For the price this is really not that bad for a dedicated emulator machine that's compatible with modern controllers.
I'd also love to see a linux video. Preferably with proton and emulation performance under a popular distro.
I'd like to see some testing with Linux Mint
Yey Eta Prime
What do you think about chuwi minibook x? It is suitable for retro gaming?
I wonder if this will be my next contender for in my pinball machine, also can you test an egpu with m.2 slot?
I'd like to see a video of this running Linux mint and how well it games using proton through steam
@5:58 7500mhz! That'd be nuts lol
Arent the Ethernet ports swapped on the Pi 4 and 5 ? So if the ethernet is the opposite side of the Pi 5 then its laid out like the Pi 4 correct?
For a small form factor it's great. I would rather ha e this than a pi because of using windows and being able to use launchbox/bigbox. Great for a control panel type arcade setup.
A ready-made computer with N100 GMKtec G3 cost me less than 100 USD in August, including the case, 8GB RAM and 256GB NVMe
Ok, let's travel back in time to August 🤦♂️
Yeah, those are 150$ now
Can the board output video via the usb-c, for a single cable use?
Win11 with only 4gb or 8gb ram, I dont know... I know its asking for a lot to get so much in a tiny PC, but I would need this thing to at least a display port or better USB-C 10gbps, and 16gb ram so I can do more with it in Windows...then I would instantly buy it. I'll keep my eyes peeled for the next gen of this device.
Can the M.2 on it handle external GPU? Would be a fun thing to test (though one would need to run the linux/windows from USB or split the pci-e lanes even more).
I want to make an arcade cabinet to play modern Beatemups (Shredders Revenge, SOR 4, River City Girls 2). Would this be a good option to run those games through Steam?
N100 processor - probably ok for what it is but I’m gonna pass.
I preordered this for one reason, and one reason only, its smaller than most of the n100 mini PC. I have a n100 beelink and it does great for my use case. But the x4 being pretty much the same but a smaller form factor , fits even better.
Its actually ~5th gen core i5 specs.
I wound love to see Pop!_OS running on this SBC
Thank you so much
GTA5 is more popular than Cyberpunk2077(people still watches GTA5 live streams). Witcher 3, Fifa 22, PES 2021, PES 2013, MK X, Tekken 7 are more popular than Dirt. So, if a video includes more popular games then that video can have more views/likes. BTW i'm curious about this device's 1-2 hours gaming performance, for example at gameplays of AsphaltLegendsUnite(high graphics), Tekken7(high or medium graphics, 720p), PES2021(medium or low graphics), efootball2024(medium or low graphics, 720p), Watch Dogs 2(medium/low graphics)
That screen shot really confused me. I was like damn cut your nails.
I get that all the time as the nails on my right hand are very long, I play acoustic and classical guitar and so need my nails long, they are very clean though!
@@AndrewAHayes i don't think you understand, it's a girl holding it in the thumbnail.
@@jmwintenn Woman*
how you connect to display , come with hdmi output ? do you now a SBC with NPU with a low price that run windows ?
can it work without heatsink? or any other small lightweight heatsink(likr rpi5 fan) will work?
what is the weight of the board?
How does those 40gpio pins work in windows, are they like connected Arduino or what?
What version of dolphin are u using? I know they stopped supporting x86 version a while now
The N100 is a x64 chip.
If I may ask: what is CEC and why is it important in the context of this board?
Consumer Electronics Control. It is a feature of some HDMI ports to share control signals between HDMI devices.
Examples:
Shared volume control and standby with a single remote.
Does it work it practice?
It depends how each device implements it.
imagine if sbc next uses Lunar Lake CPU
Excuse my ignorance in the subject, but when the board is running on windows, how do you access the I/O's via software? (monitoring and programming)
id love to try this as a "car-puter" and im also wondering if theres a way to boot windows without m.2 or emmc? imagine running a tiny little gpu with this thing through the nvme slot with an adapter. take the vram load off the built in ram and see how it goes. 32gb emmc simply isnt large enough for windows and games though.
Batocera on here would be interesting?
I would prefer to have dual NICs and run opnsense... I'll keep looking.
This board does NOT run anything it CRAWLS
Not really, egpu gaming with this thing i fine.
14:58 wait I see a raspberry pi chip on that computer
@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440 That's the RP 2040 microcontroller that he mentioned. It's in charge of the 40 pin header.
@@PJ818 that makes sense why it was from raspberry pi foundation
Batocera?
Would be cool to see Macos on this.
what is turbo freq for all cores? In CPU-Z test at ~21W it was only 2.9 GHz across 4 cores. Is it all-core-limit (and 3.4 is only for 1 core) or the freq it limited by power limit?
(And as I wrote earlier: do not test iGPU performance in 720p/900p at 60+ fps because then the performance depends more on the CPU than on the iGPU)
Please test with Linux Mint.
I wonder if Batocera would work as well as it does on the Pi5.
I would honestly rather just buy a lenovo or hp tiny workstation. I recently got one with a 10400 for 120 dollars.
since you mentioned it a few times, what is SET in regards to the HDMI?
Agreed, can't quite make out what you are saying here. Transcript says "sack". What are you saying at timestamp 9:10?
@@thaynerouth487 o0 in that case, maybe CEC?
This case/frame is going to be really limiting. shame it can't be mounted to a real pc cooler (rather than a cooler to it obviously) with heat pipes.
3:41 "Doesn't support se---" ☠🤣
LMAO, getting frisky are we ETA Prime? 😅
Wanna see elive os on it!
Bring back chapter markers please. They should be mandatory, imo, on ALL youtube videos. Very helpfyl
I bought two today sadly only 8GB + 64GB EMMC versions are in stock sadly there are no heatsink + fan in stocks so I bought only 2 Radxa x4 8GB with 64GB EMMC I am thinking of using old Intel cpu cooler for it as I have one
Do You guys have some tutorials, tips on setting up ps2, ps3 emulation on Windows/Linux? My PS3 emulation keeps crashing on Windows.
Radxa...
with less ports this could fit inside a nexdock xl