Is the Boeing 737NG still SAFE to fly?!
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Is the Boeing 737NG a safe aircraft to fly and operate? There have been a lot of recent reports from Boeing regarding cracks in the pickle-forks, wire bundles out of order and other issues with the work-horse of the Boeing family but how bad is it actually? In this video I will go through the facts regarding the Boeing 737NG, why it was created and my personal experience of flying the type for the last 18 years.
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Finally a voice of reason! Thanks for putting some things in perspective! Keep up the good work. 👍
Thank you,
Voice of reason or lack of alternatives? How long do you think he would be flying Boeing if he said these planes are designed by idiots and supervised by monkeys? 🤷♂️
mentour you are excellent public relations for the airline industry as a whole and 737 in particular.
Thank you so much for your videos. It is highly reassuring to listen to an experienced pilot explaining this kind of issues.
This is amazing Mentor! So happy for you, you have come a long way.
Finally, you are sponsored by an actual airline! :)
I love your videos! Always feeling more educated after watching them
Great! That’s what I’m going for.
The day Iran shot down that 737, some people on Twitter actually thought it was a Boeing issue
Ray Brown I never bought it because the 737 800 is one of the most reliable aircrafts. Also, there was no way that Iran could’ve determined what happened with the plane as soon as it crashed.
If you look in the right places there are STILL people that think that even after it has been admitted that it was shot down. Unbelievable.
Yohan yeah, there have been fatal accidents in the past (80’s-90’s-early 00’s) due to improper maintenance but these days airlines take maintenance serious for the most part.
When there’s a fire in the engine, the pilots shut the fuel to that engine to suppress the fire and can safely fly with the remaining engine to make an emergency landing. The chances of both engines flaming out is extremely rare and if they both flamed out, pilots would’ve shut the fuel to both engines and you wouldn’t have a huge fireball as was seen in the video that surfaced.
Yes it is Boeing fault for failure to install flares and radar jamming equipment onto to 737 NGs to stop missiles that should be a standard feature. Lol
Rata 4U it’s unfortunate because Boeing makes some nice aircrafts such as the 787 and the pre 737 MAX series. I personally prefer Airbus but I want Boeing to do well and not have a stigma of being unsafe.
First time message. I have your app and having being watching your video's for a couple of years now. I thank you for the refreshing view and the new and different topics you cover each week/month. In regards to the MAX, I have zero problems with flying in the MAX. Though I never really had a concern your fall video has helped me when talking to others.
I did realize the other night; I do talk about your video's with friends a lot and realized I need to let you know how important and informative your videos are. Great job and thank you so much.
Thanks mentour talking about that documentary. I saw it also and was really concerned of it's authenticity. So much misinformation and scare tactics going on. I began listening to you last year cause I was going to fly for the first time in awhile. You really helped put alot of my fears to rest. I took the flight and really enjoyed it. Wasn't afraid during any mild turbulence or sounds I heard cause you pretty much covered everything. Thank you!!
Captain, I'm glad you mentioned flight sims at the end of your video. How about a video of a different kind explaining, using your own experience, just how realistic computerised "table top" flying really is? Are you looking forward to the new Microsoft Flight simulator, and have you been following all the hype being attached to it? Best Wishes, and a Happy & Safe New Year
As long as one of those pesky surface-to-air missiles don’t get in the way, you should be okay in a 737NG.
Exactly
Honestly tired of people constantly shitting on boeing
@@MentourPilot I appreciate that you don't want to be controversial and want to wait for official word from government sources, but it's pretty clear now (with video evidence) that the plane was shot down. Love your vids, keep up the great work. I'm sure in your line of work you have to tip toe around that fine line so I'm definitely not faulting you, but rather letting you know I don't think your viewers would blame you for saying "That NG was shot down by a missile!" Happy New Year!
@@MrTripsJ Then again, if you read the hidden communications of the employees, you know the employees themselves were skeptical of the MAX. One of 'em even called it a "turd".
Your comments on your app with the 🤥 was so appropriate. Most of us have been on 737's so many times (even been on a MAX) and feel safe in them and an A320. There was one only one explanation..thanks to an unfortunate MANMADE situation.
Love your site & vids - your English is superb, you have a gift of speaking clearly to the masses.
Thank you for this informative and caring story. Good job!
I always look forward to mentour videos, hope to meet you one day in London
Absolutely
Im disturbed by a documentary I saw a few years back about a group of boeing workers who blew the whistle about parts for the NG not being made correctly by contractors. Parts that were out of align were being hammered in place to make them fit, parts being made incorrectly with the full knowledge of the contractor. A contractor threatened a boeing worker during an inspection. These group of boeing workers were fired for making this public. I would like to know you opinion about this documentary. Ive posted in here on the last vid you made about the pickle fork cracks.
Boeings shit has really come to the foreground in the last year or so to the point of actively hurting their image. I know several people who will refuse to fly on 737 or boeings in general, and I think rightfully so even if those specific planes are safe
@@tobywenman4769 What disburbes me even more is mentor pilot refuses to comment on the documentary. He is so pro boeing he does not want to bring this flaw to public image. I have no idea why.
it talks about it 15:01
How about you actually watch the video.
I've actually seen 3 TV documentaries about Boeing quality. One AlJazeera, one Australian ABC and one 60 minutes. They all pretty much tell the same story, which means its real. Boeing's been in a massive cost-cutting cycle the last 10 years, subcontracting as much as possible to cheap suppliers, and that's the root cause of all this. And I don't care who says otherwise.
Yay! I finally got in on one of these early! Love the channel.
Congrats!!
Your confidence in your airplane is great to hear! I do not hesitate to fly, and I am never worried or afraid. NPR's On Point episode this week was an outstanding interview with former Boeing engineers. It's scary and sad to hear what seems to be going on with Boeing's management, but I hope they can get past it.
Great video Mentour I enjoyed watching it, Happy new year my friend.
As someone who recently discovered this channel and binge watched almost ALL the content, finally some fresh meat!!!
My situation exactly 😆
Same here, I discovered the channel over the holidays and bingewatched almost all videos.
Always here to learn something new
I added the link to an earlier MP video regarding Boeing Quality control issues, as reported on Australia 60 Minutes so, I"ll be thanking you, Mentaur, for addressing the topic. You are, I'm sure, a reassuring voice for many a frightened air passenger. Keep up soothing fears with facts about the complexities of the aviation world. You are valued and appreciated.
Another great video...
Thanks ...
It is safe as long as it has the skilled and professional pilots in it's cockpit 💪
@winter heat No, I work for Ukraine International Airlines. (UIA)
Pilot Blog You ever fly the plane that got shot down?
@@Ac1DMoDz Yes, I did. It was new and very good plane.
Pilot Blog That’s crazy, glad you weren’t flying it that night.
@@Ac1DMoDz I was in Teheran just couple of times for last 3 years. Was lucky enough not to fly there often... Thanks for your comment and attention...
Yes, just not over Iran.
P.S. When did you find out your couch needed maintenance? ;)
100h check
@@MentourPilot all itll need now Is some a-checks to keep it running until its next heavy maintenance.
I have no sympathy for the so called victim of the plane crash in Iran, what where they doing in a terorist country in the first place, serves them right
William Smith because there are decent people that live there too. A lot of these people were Canadians. Just like there are still decent people in the US.
Already reported his comment. There's no excuse or reason to blame innocent people like that.
Your channel is great and has been such an informative way to learn about aviation as a non-pilot, thanks so much!
This was excellent timing for this video for me! I have 5 flights on the 737NGs in two weeks. With this I can still relax and enjoy my flights.
16:35 Patxi magically turns into Molly
Haha! I wonders if someone would notice!
Well he was inop
Molly = Patxi NG model.
The media blows things out of proportion? NEVER!
nice one mate, you are a trusted source for aviation new - love your channel
Brilliant video, thank you. Appreciated. Fantastic channel!!!
2:29 should have ended the sentence with “they hoped you had been doing absolutely fantastic.”
I believe the 737 in all it’s variations has more flight time combined I believe than any other platform. I’d fly it.
I've flown in it as a passenger. Not bad.
Hey Mentour. Love your videos, keep up the excellent work! I was wondering if you could do a video (I went through your play list and don't see one) on what goes into landing an aircraft with extreme cross winds to the point where the nose is on a 45 degree angle to the runway. Thanks! Keep the videos coming.
Skill share is a great tool. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks to you I am no longer so scared to fly. Thank you so much!🙏
Ana Paula Montero Coverston just not over a war zone.
Thank you for this video, Petter ;)
The 737NG is one of the most used passenger aircrafts, and I’m pretty sure that the great work of the engineers that built this aircraft combined with the professionalism of the flight crew, will keep this aircraft one of the safest on the market.
I think so as well!
All planes are safe, maybe bar the Max one though
@@forza223bowe5 The plane itself is fine, the system (original version) was/is the problem.
I love all of your Videos and your adorable puppy. Can you do a video of how you do the calculations of weight distribution throughout the aircraft? Thanks! ❤️
Great video! Thanks!!!!
@Mentour pilot I heard that the DC-3 was a very successful plane...
Mentour, are you getting into virtual reality too now? I think I saw an Oculus Quest on the table behind you :)
Thank you for this !
Good work Peter Mentour 👍
Slight correction on there Mentour, it's not "New Generation", it's "NEXT Generation".
Haha! True
Potato, potata, same stuff
Correction tesla guy...Tesla aren't better for the environment they just use coal to power them, not petrol.
@@Jdalio5 How about you watch Fully Charged's Pilot episode? No questions asked
Next Graveyard? 😎
0:07
wait, I thought NG stands for Next Generation. Apparently it is New Generation. Or are both correct?
me too 🙋♂️
Indeed... 😨
🤣🤣🤣
It's just a semantic slip up.
At my Aircraft Maintenance school it's Next Generation the others are Present Generation and Classics.
Your dog seems very calm about flying!
I like your analogy with old and robust Volvo car 😅, that is exactly what I feel flying B737.
Hi Mentour 😁😁😁
Hey!
Mentour Pilot love your videos 🤪
I love the 737 NGbut my favorite is the 757 series this one is the best in my opinion also after research 😉
Flown in 757s a few times. Only aircraft which has ever made me feel seasick when it was moving on the ground. Never liked it.
The only flight I ever took on a 757 was between Newark (EWR) and Reykjavik (KEF). It was a Delta flight and I thought it was very comfortable. Of course, I always find the service on Delta to be among the best, so perhaps that's why I came away with such a good impression.
Again, another wonderful video that contributed to my own flying experience of highly professional people doing a complicated job 100% professional!
Amazing vid as usual
Nice haircut, looking freshh🔥😜
Thank you!
@@MentourPilot np
super fresh!
I was on a 900 over xmas, felt safe. But couldn't help thinking weird things.
That something was wrong with the plane ?
You’re simply the best! I wanted to be a pilot but couldn’t due to my country’s bad circumstances. However I still have a passion for aviation, everything!! Thank you for giving us such great information.
great video mentour
Glad you liked it!
Nice video! I think some things also have to be managed. I know quite some pilots and fly myself as well. The 737 is a strange plane in a way and the comparison you made with cars is a right one! Sounds for most as unbelievable probably, but as with cars indeed.. Usually products from the states are based on old technology and less sophisticated. Leaf springs on cars where Europe's cars have double wishbones all around. The leaf springs will work fine but will never perform as well as the European variant. If you try to make it work as well as the double wishbones you mght push it and make ut unreliable.. Eventually new technologies and sophistication dominates. I believe the company making the steel profiles of the 737ng was called ducommon and were found to have hand cut the fuselage profiles with all consequences of not having the computerized precision and seemingly lead to current problems and I am afraid to more really dangerous problems when the plane gets older and wears. If it would be less expensive to change from Boeing to another manufacturer, no company would choose Boeing anymore.
Boeing is in the situation I believe that they can't keep up technically with the European, Chinese and Russian planes due to a lack of sohisication. This times with a war the states has created on fuel consumption sophistication, precision engineering comes in to play more then ever... And I don't see Boeing matching its rivals in the upcoming 20/30 years. So that means to survive the have to go the dangerous way of producing overly cheap, reducing margins, cheap production. Political games although ut seems that the faa is doing their work serious now but there has been enough proof in the past of Boeing being held a hand above their head..
In my opinion.. The 737ng is a plane with less structural ridigity as many pilots notice this during landings for example, even compared to older 737's. The 737 ng will wear quicker, sooner with in some cases structural (possibly lethal) failures due to poor or wrong production/ designed parts. This is not likely to happen I would say, but still my biggest fear as when it won't become a common issue, checks and maintenance might overlook it with all consequences..
The Airbus is technically the better plane without a doubt, mostly due to 'sophistication'.. As the car comparison here gives a great example. With Airbus it's that sophistication that could fail, all automated and with Boeing it's the lack of sophistication. For 20 years ago I would choose Boeing, now though with a higher need for precision, sophistication etc to be able to be anything close to competitive.. I think Boeing has to dig too deep to match European sophistication and therefore has to compromise other areas. I would prefer an Airbus any day now purely for safety reasons.
Then again said.. It remains so unlikely with both manfactures that due to technical issues the worst case scenario will happen and ut still will sooner be caused b external factors like weather, human mistakes or what so ever.
Just my opinion..
Greets,
Johan
recent events have me concerned for the 737-800.
But this headline is not zo encouraging, isn’t it?
DESIGNED BY CLOWNS & SUPERVISED BY MONKEYS’: BOEING EMPLOYEE SHREDS 737 MAX IN INTERNAL MESSAGES”
Well, the NGs and MAXs are two different designs...
Great info as always! Plus, as a Minnesotan, ❤ Sun Country @ 2:36... & as a long time 727 fan, ❤ 5:05!!
Thanks Petter for great, informitive videos. Quick question, what is the difference between various winglets on NG commercial aircraft; scimitar, blended, or standard triangular? Thanks, from Mark in Denver, CO.
Like an old Volvo? That made me laugh until I think about how many paychecks in my youth went to the care and feeding of a PV544
Steve Ward same with me and a Jetta
I had a 56 PV444.....
Don't hope they fix problems like the 1964 121amazon i had... A big hammer a screwdriver and som used oil and it run perfect
Men det var også en raggarbil
Isn't there a red 1964 P1800 fastback with 3 million miles on it hanging around somewhere?
At least the 737 doesn’t have dual SU carburetors to synchronize.
7000 flying at any given time, I think we’ll be ok! Don’t trust the media.
Them and the A320's are the workhorses of the aviation industry, and have been for many decades now. They just work, and will be good enough for another 20 years at least even without the MAX.
Amusing that Mentour's son donned an airline uniform shirt with captains stripes before playing with the flight simulator software on his computer. 👍 And kudos to Mentour for putting it in the outtro, keeping things interesting enough to keep me watching to the very end. Usually it takes some good Paxti and Mollie outtakes to do that. 😉
I love your Doodle... he's sooo cuddly. Do you realise a lot of people probably watch your channel, as much to see the dog, as ofc your informative (educated) presentations?
The 737 is perfectly safe as long as it's not hit by missiles
The fact that people assumed it was an issue with the plane and not the fact it was probably shot down just goes to show how much irreparable damage Boeing have done to their image. And rightfully so in my mind
Sorry for this off topic question but @mentour do you know why the Ukrainian flight that was shot down was even allowed to takeoff since there had been missiles fired hours before..guys pls like this so mentour can see the comment 👍
As long as the airspace is not closed, the decision will lay with the airline.
@@MentourPilot oh ok thank you for answering 😁
Iran has already confessed that it was them who unintentionally launched a missile against The B737-800 Ukrainian.
May their souls rest in PEACE
The rockets fired by Iran targeted Iraq and were nowhere near Tehran. The surface -to-air missile is a mobile anti aircraft system. Iran say they mistook the airliner for a cruise missile and that it had deviated off course. There's no evidence that it did deviate however and it was a serious error by Iran. There were no other attacks or missiles flying around Tehran.
As for why was it allowed to fly, several flights had taken off from Tehran that evening and several planes were over flying Iran. There was no reason to expect an attack.
For more details follow the New York Times and Bellingcat on twitter
Follow New York Times and Bellingcat for details
Good on you mate!
Thanks for understanding and addressing the thoughts of those of us who fly, shall we say, haltingly. Knowledge is the key to managing fear in any field. Good analogy connecting the type to an old Volvo. I’d much rather think that than think that the NG is akin to an old product of American Motors. Sadly, I owned a ‘73 Gremlin. Although it did have a Levi’s interior.
Once again, i come here to get the straight story on aviation in general, including the 737 MAX. Not interested in the news media false news entertainment channels.
I was reading an article about the Tehran incident which then decided to bring the MAX into it as if they were the same aircraft. I agitatedly said "NOT THE SAME TYPE" to the confusion of the people around me.
The big problem is getting a straight story from Boeing.
Dog is INOP
So it is being replaced by another one!
Someone has to fix it with speedtape
Nah you just need to open the fridge. I bet it this will completly fix it.
@Dmitri Kozlowsky Maybe we better ask that to Kelsey from 74gear?
@Dmitri Kozlowsky With females, the primary unit requires so much maintenance and is therefore so expensive, that there are insufficient funds for a backup unit.
@Dimitri Kozlowsky
I love your politically incorrect observations it positively
destroys the snowflakes.
Lucky you get to fly a B738NG captain, thanks for sharing ✈️😇
Mentour Pilot, the picklefork crack issue is being caused by mounting holes in the fork that are (,006) 6 thousandths of an inch too big. Only certain planes are thought to be affected. Also these holes are “cold worked”. When the bolt is installed into a hole that is ,006 to big, the load (on the shoulder) is being placed on too small an area instead of the whole circumference and over time this is where the micro cracks are emanating from.
What will response be if you were to be approached tomorrow to be one of the test pilots for 737 Max? (I guess your response will be: "I am already previewing the training manuals")
Ooof, you got the INOP pillow.
I know, it failed the 100h check, not soft enough.
I like hard pillows don’t @me.
@@MentourPilot Just mel dispatch it😁
I retracted my comments after watching the video completely again. Looks like I reacted to soon. Thanks for your videos.
really nice video. Keep the great work. By the way, I am lukas too :) regards from Switzerland
i still love the old intro more
Safe as long as it doesnt hit one of those pesky anti aircraft missiles..
Once again Petter, you have explained in a fantastic way that the Boeing 737ng is a VERY safe aircraft. Until 2017 I used to regularly fly in the Boeing 737-300 and it felt amazing. Thank you for this reassuring video.
Love you. Love your show. (But your intro is :36. 1:20 with ad message.) Thank you for the stats & data. We need to hear this.
The 737 is the most safest, reliable and still the best damn looking plane around and would happily fly it. As mentioned especially when the MAX comes out it would have been scrutinized to such an extent to save embarrassment that it will be even safer
The Max will never be safe
How do you know?
@@forza223bowe5 You are wrong.
It's good looking but I think the 757 looks better, still a good plane
.... and here comes all the "not safe over Iran" comments
"Not safe over iran and Irak" is exactly what the FAA is stating these days.
Unless you fly with El Al (Israel Airlines), which has anti-missile defenses...
do you blame them?
This is Absolutely Fantastic
Thank you
I liked the comparison with an old volvo. Very tough machines.
Dumb comment: your accent is fun. Especially when you say "Skeeelshare." I find myself saying it that way now :-)
Are you American? You have amusing accents too, many of them.
@@shebbs1 Yes, and that is so true! Especially us Southerners!
I LOVE YOU
Metal fatigue is scary. Intense inspection done on a regular basis is the only way to notice something may not be right.
Thank you for this video! after watching James Asquith's video after 737 Max, I got interested and looked for other related videos, then I landed in this page. Felt sad for the families of the victims :(
btw, Good luck on your next video :)
How is this related to the Boeing 737 MAX?
Today, Boeing 737 supplier announced 2,800 worker layoffs.
Boeing’s fired CEO will receive $62 million.
Questions?
And I made jokes yesterday that CEOs get an average payment of $100 millions when making crucial mistakes, (almost) destroying whole corporates or killing people. It`s a true shame how underpaid CEOs are nowadays hahaha. I hope economy will get better in 10 to 20 years and payment raises up to 2000% for middle and upper management will take place during the next decades. Otherwise EVEN MORE workers and employees must be laid off! ;)
@@martinr1834 Cant expect that from sociopaths. He would not even agree to a pay cut in front of congress.
@Mark Deavult
The news was reporting that the fired CEO wouldn't receive any more pay from Boeing at all.
Boeing lobbyists control DC. Crooks get elected and because cannon fodder vote on party lines.
what did the Boeing CEO SPECIFICALLY do wrong?
I've flown on virtually every model of the 737 with the exception of the, -100, -600 and the MAX's. I will always be a sworn loyal customer to the 737 family and I've never felt unsafe on any 737. Will I be one of the first to hop on a MAX when it returns to service? Absolutely.
Nora Lincoln Same here!
Hey Petter. You show on your channel how emergencies are dealt with in a simulator. I'm just curious or interested in if, what or when was the last time you absolutely had to rely on your sim. training to land safely.
9:30 Yep, in the amusement industry, rides will not operate if even a single thing isn’t working as intended. When an issue is found with a ride, the issue will be sorted out.
Anyone think moving HQ to Chicago, may have been a mistake.
That for sure was dumb, as was opening a factory in Hee-Haw South Carolina.
Chicago is a B list city with the size of an A list city.
See above comment about Boeing's own "pilot error".
@@VelvetCondoms Chicago's a lot more influential of a city than Seattle at any rate. And I'm from Seattle.
Short answer: yes
Long answer: yes!
You should be a Boeing salesman. they need all the help they can get. Great post. Love them all.
Cool to see that your son is playing x-Plane 11! I would highly recommend looking at a free addon aircraft called "Zibo 737-800" if you want a very immersive 737 in the sim, it's actually also getting developed by another 737 captain here on youtube called "flightdeck2sim".
Nice haircut mentour
Thank you!
Bird almost hit the plane 18:10 on the right side
Plane almost hit the bird on the everything
@Mentour Pilot: Thanks for your great videos! I always come here to put things in perspective. I am still a bit unsure about one thing: You mentioned that the wiring, which might be too close together for the FAA is only a minor issue. Is this still the case? I have read that Boeing tries to argue that the wiring in the 737 max doesn't have to be altered because there were no failures in the 737 NG. But the FAA apparently pointed out that this issue might be 'catastrophic'. And I am thinking, it could be catastrophic if a short causes a runaway stabilizer having in mind that the small trim wheel doesn't allow for an easy recovery.
The issue is that planes like 737 MAX that are certified as a derivative of the 737 family have a certification basis which comprises regulations as written anywhere from the 1960s to now. If they don't modify a system, then they're allowed to certify that part under the earlier as-designed regulations. 737 MAX wiring doesn't meet modern regulations, but it met regulations for earlier models and EASA is concerned about that in particular (possibly they added something there for 737 MAX).
Mentour, I watch each of you postings 3x very carefully, but so smile when your red dog turns to white! Bob
It's safe if you're not anywhere near Iran.
Boeing is primarily responsible for most of it's current problems.
Hi Peter. Could you make a comment about the Air Canada airplane which lost a wheel during take off ? Why would that happen ? How would you handle the situation ? What about the ground crew ?
Excellent video. While 73s basically look the same, the systems can be very different.