TheKnittingPT Ep 45: Let's Talk about Wool & Folk (Rhinebeck weekend recap)
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Wool and Folk should return all funds especially to vendors !
If I were a vendor, I'd call my credit card for a chargeback if I didn't get the space that I paid for.
Emma in the moment did a video on this as well and the more I hear about it the more my heart goes out to everyone that was a vendor/attendee. EVERYONE was done wrong.
sounds like there needs to be a community wide scream of BYE FELICIA!!!!!
Haha, quite literally!! 😅
I don't know how she can come back from this, honestly.
I have listened to so many stories and one thing everyone seems to be saying is how cruel and uncompassionate Felicia was! It’s very sad! It’s really very unfortunate 😔
I had to leave W&F after about an hour because of how bad it was. It took me a day to really get over the feeling of being overwhelmed and start feeling angry about how horribly they treated everyone.
ahh I can finally watch it without getting too triggered lol. Cannot express how much I appreciated all your help for everything that you did for me and Silbia during that whole shitshow. Now, I'm going to try to *repress* everything lol
THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE AT WOOL & FOLK. The stories from vendors and attendees are just astounding. I am very curious to see how the organizer responds IF she responds.
Haaaaa we have now seen that response… not surprised.
@@theknittingptwhere is that response? Would love to read/watch 😅
@@eleanor.shadow on the wool and folk Instagram page
Ugh. I haven’t been to Rhinebeck in years. Honestly, it has been “too much” for a long time. Too much money, too much matching sweaters, too much people, etc. Just too damn much. Then they tack on all these other events, that it is just so out of control. Wool and Folk sounds like pure hell. I have been going to smaller festivals like MD Sheep and Wool, etc. Places where I can get into a booth and actually enjoy the yarn. Places that I don’t have to wait an hour in line to pee. Places I can drive to and from without having to stay over. This Saturday, I will be in Frederick, MD (home to Magpie’s Fibers) at a fiber festival. It’s 30 minutes away, free and will be 82 and sunny. Drama-free. I will check out the W&F vendor list and see if I can support any while I am there. I am sorry for everyone’s financial loss and ruined trips. I was home knitting by a cozy fire and drinking wine- just like I like to be.
Agreed. I'm in New England and just stick to the region. Come to our neck of the woods sometime! The New Hampshire Sheep and Wool Festival (New Hampshire) and Fiber Festival of New England (Massachusetts) are just right. The Deerfield Fair is decent, too, although it isn't strictly fiber.
Too much matching sweaters has me crying laughing!!!!
Central NY here….our festivals are 80-90% fiber farmers. I love them and don’t feel the need to go to rhinebeck. Most folks here can’t afford to travel and vend at rhinebeck anymore.
Everything you said I said on my podcast about W&F! It was so dangerous, exhausting and infuriating to see an event that was so good last year turn to crap! Thank you for your transparency ans again agree the ppl helping were rude and not helpful at all! I wanted to see the wandering flock and couldn't find her and so many other ppl!
I have had intense FOMO about Rhinebeck. I so wanted to go. I have never been and am somewhat glad it wasn’t this year that I made an effort to go. I am blessed to have a terrific yarn shop in my little town. She will get my money.
I attended Wool & Folk and was so disappointed! It was such a fun event the first few years. This year we left after about 45 minutes as it was such a horror! Thank you for posting the vendor list. I will definitely place orders to support these lovely indie dyers. Wouldn’t it have been nice if the organizer posted the list!!!! Don’t think I will be going back next year (if they even exist next year)
Thank you for sharing such an honest look at Wool & Folk, and promoting your fiends and other vendors so well!
Thanks Hannah ❤️
Thank you for sharing your experience. I think it perfectly sums up what it was like to attend this event. I left much earlier than planned and was so exhausted I barely made it to my evening plans and really had to rally for the next day. But my heart breaks for the vendors. There were vendors I wanted to see but literally couldn't find and after a few loops I was tired of trying to get through crowds. I did have a chance to speak with you and it was a moment of joy in the sea of chaos.
Thank you so much for speaking out. Sounds awful.
It was wonderful to speak to you too! I think that exhaustion was just so widespread and it did affect the rest of my weekend, which is a shame.
I’ve been hearing all the horror stories about Wool and Folk. It was until seeing your video that I knew who the show organizer was. Hearing who it is doesn’t surprise me at all…I ordered a skein of yarn from her yarn shop (on the phone speaking to her) several years ago and she took my money knowing she didn’t have any skeins left of the special “one of a kind” colorway that the dyer was not doing more than one run of…took me 5 months to finally get that one skein! The dyer had to dye more due to that shop owner taking more orders (and peoples money) than there were number of skeins available. Other podcasters were saying she sold way more tickets to people than there was room for.
You should have seen my face when you said booths were first come first served. That’s absolutely insane 😵💫
Right??? It almost seems unbelievable, all the crap that happened
How truly disappointing for everyone. I hope the event organizer reaches out to other event organizers on how to handle this in the future. I live in the PNW and the majority of our markets, festivals and concerts are outside in the rain and they could give her a wealth of advice on how to handle this in the future.
My heart sank when you mentioned the booth flooding and booths being on a 5th floor walk-up, my goodness!
I left instagram last year so I have no idea what goes on in yarny world beside the 3 or 4 youtubers I follow. Thank you for sharing with us in a very humane way.
Wow thank you for this . I am the Pip daddy. It was my first wool event and as I had pretty good sales it was a difficult situation. I am going to check out that yack wool now . Thank you
My friends and I loved your booth! Happy I snagged a mug from you ❤️
Love your sweater!
Thanks for sharing thr vendors!
Thank you for your honest review. And thanks for including the vendor list. I'll use it to shop!
Hi Andrea. I found you just by googling “what happened at Wool and Folk?” Your video caption looked like you would explain exactly that and you did. I looked up the cost to go to Wool and Folk, EEK! Seriously? I wouldn’t go back either. I’ve heard that some of the sponsors are getting some grief over all of this. Don’t they just give money and nothing else? Sorry for everyone. So happy to have found you, I’ll check out more of your podcast. Thank you for your honest review. 🌸
Andrea, this was fantastic! I’ve heard so many versions of what went on, and yours was very comprehensive. I did not go this year, now I’m glad I did not. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
I love all your choices in purchases.
Thank you for sharing your experience and thoughts and for including the vendor list. I love your videos and had hoped to meet you at one of the events this year, but hopefully another time it'll happen!
Hopefully next time!!
Thank you so much for getting the word out to those who weren’t there to experience the absolute overwhelm and $#it show of it all. Meeting you in person in a briefly covered corridor was one of the few W&F bright spots for me!! ❤❤ (hi it’s Margaret-Ellen)
Hi!!! I wish I’d had the brain space to ask to take a photo with you!!!! I’m so glad we were able to meet in person and speak for a few minutes.
Thanks for giving an honest review of your experience. I only watched it from a buyer’s perspective and it makes since that they only mentioned what yarn they bought!
Thanks for sharing your experience as an attendee and friend of a vendor! It’s disheartening on so many levels.
Thank you for sharing. It saddens me that W&F went so badly. I've been attending Rhinebeck for years, and want everyone to enjoy the festival and their trip to the Hudson Valley. Everything I've been hearing makes me feel sorry for everyone.
I hope vendors pursue legal action and obtain a refund. And boycott this organizer’s store in Brooklyn… String Thing. Rhinebeck is another deal altogether…organized and more established. I’ve been to it twice and had a great time
Love your Skyline pullover!!
Thank you for keeping it real on your videos.
Thank you so much for giving an honest review! By the way love this podcast. 🫶🏻
Thank you!
I also feel badly that I raced through Cakepalooza to hurry over to Wool and Folk. Next year I’ll try a different event, maybe Flock.
So important to speak up! I have never been to Rhinebeck and still don't fully know what is going on in the different locations. However I watch a lot of knitting podcasters and so many have been talking very excitedly about Wool & Folk. Some of them mentioning that they were only planning to head to Wool & Folk and not Rhinebeck as all their favourite vendors were going to be there. This could have been a hugely successful and amazing event if planned properly (even in bad weather). It doesn't sound like the organizer has responded at all so far and thats extremely disappointing. Who is going to go back there as a vendor???
My friends and I definitely planned our day to only be at wool and folk and spend our entire afternoon there. Now I wish I hadn’t budgeted that time and money and could have gone to the other events.
I was upset that I couldn't make it as Rhinebeck is on my bucket list but after hearing so many perspectives from vendors and attendees I am glad I was unable to attend.
Thankfully Rhinebeck is not the same as Wool and Folk. We attended Indie Untangled, which was fabulous, and Rhinebeck aka New York Sheep and Wool Festival, which was also fabulous. Wool and Folk was a huge example of an organizer’s breach of contract. Hopefully a lawsuit will come of this. On a side note, the sponsors are not responsible for the obvious cluster that the organizer created.
@Rglazapple Thank you for clarifying the separate events. Oh, I understand that. Sponsors help make the event financially feasible along with attendee ticket purchases. The weather magnified everything that went wrong at Wool & Folk.
@@markishabunn4492it rained at the other two events on Friday AND at the fairgrounds on Saturday so…. The organizer of W & F NEEDS to work on a different “excuse “
@@jetv1471 I never said W&F used the weather as an excuse. I said the weather magnified everything that went wrong.
I didn't realize how bad things were at W&F until I went to Rhinebeck the next day. It felt like we were all trying to swim upstream. I do feel bad for the vendors, but was able to buy yarn there. Thanks for your video!
I bought the same EWE yarn at Rhinebeck, and plan to do the Seasons Cardigan by Ozetta. What a coincidence that you mentioned both. Thank you for sharing about Wool and Folk.
Just discovered you and was very interested about what you had to say about Wool and Folk. I heard about it last year and was intrigued but the ticket price was too much. I go to Rhinebeck every year and enjoy it so much. I feel bad for the vendors. They really got screwed. Thanks for sharing the vendor list.
You got some great yarn! Yak dk is a favorite of mine ❤
It’s becoming a new favorite! I’m sad we didn’t get to spend time together beyond that quick hello; next time!!
I forgot to go to the Asian makers meet up because I wanted to meet so many of you. Sad I didn’t get a picture with you at Wool and Folk. I didn’t take 1 picture that day. I did purchase yarn at both places. I was so spent by the end.
That rust is beautiful
Ooh Matcha/Avocado skin green!
Went to rhinebeck on Sunday fir 1.5 hrs.. not too crowded and easy to get around.. but love New England festival better
Glad you covered everything possible.
I wonder how Kristy Glass has half likes on her video than you have… not allowed comments, selfproclaimed authority on Rhineback.
Thanks for letting us know about Wool and Folk. I had hoped to go next year. I won’t if they have an event. I hope they decide not to. This is a disgrace.
I wanted to hear your perspective. I’m not like to go to Rhinebeck but I feel I am part of the knitting community. As a nurse, I find this experience so disheartening. We have so much to learn and do better
I heard that someone made a complaint with the ADA. Did you hear that as well?
No, I haven’t but good for them!
I went to wool and folk last year and while I thought the location was beautiful the parking was awful. Not nearly enough parking for the number of people. This year sounds like it was a nightmare. So sorry for the vendors. I will skip that event next year! Not sure who would even want to vend with them again! The vendors should be reimbursed for their booth fees!
I need a tan merino blend for the edging of a darlaine yarn blanket I’m making for my granddaughter for Christmas. What would you recommend?
I would check out www.shop mercerie.com for some options!
I think the rain was the major downer. I’ve never been to a festival but I’m curious how “Wool & Folk was so great last year, so few people, so fun” isn’t going to translate to enormous crowds? Of course tons of people will go. And they changed the venue ahead of time, which is bad, but then you want them to change the venue a week in advance also? That’s a confusing take. Upstate NY sucks for driving (only been there once, never again) so I can totally understand a half hour drive being awful.
Sorry, I’m not sure where you got the impression that someone wanted them to change the venue a week ahead? If you’re referring to the weather, they had time in advance to prepare for poor weather, which they did not. I heard after that vendors went out and bought more tarps because the tents did have sides on them.
I understand this is not the point of your video, but your sweater is lovely. Can you please share the name of the pattern and what yarn you used?
The pattern is linked in the description box, and I used yarn from Qing fibre and camellia fiber company. You can find more details on my ravelry project page, also linked in the description box.
Thank you! Sorry, I never remember to check the description box.
I thought the same, followed the link, and found it already in my queue! 😅
@@andreaferris3564 LOL, that's absolutely something I would do 😉
hi i can't find the list of vendors you mentioned.
Go to the description box and click “show more”
The worse smell is damp or wet wool.
*PromoSM*
This is more than people's business. This is their ART. Shameful.
Probably going to bring the world down on me for this comment but here goes . Been going to NYS&W and Maryland Sheep and Wool since 2008 .
My gang wanted to go to indie dyer events and I am a “tag along” kind of person so we went to one in a Holiday In in Kingston and one in a Church basement.
I don’t know if or what I paid to get in . If the girls collect, I just hand over my money … I’m along for A GOOD TIME !
I thought the one at the holiday inn and the basement was ridiculously crowded and did not enjoy .
The two I went to outdoors were more comfortable but again didn’t seem like “all that and a bag of chips “ . Not the rich experience of the festivals on the fairgrounds. But again … I’m along for the fun in general .
Then two years ago we went to something in the rain called Yarn Centric and when I got back in the car two members were talking about $20 .
I asked “ did I pay $20 for that ?”
And then I started taking an interest . I felt strongly that the events the day before were taking away from the original intent of the sheep and wool festivals at the fair grounds.
So this year when the girls were talking about the three events I said “ I will go along with whatever is decided … but I think these events are taking away from the festival at the fairgrounds and prefer to boycott them “.
One of the other girls pointed out there are more and more empty booths at the fairgrounds.
When we started going in 2008 there were no open booths and we would see vendors share booths or share tents .
I feel like the festivals at the fair grounds are to benefit the “sheep farmers” and 4 H and boyscouts the local community,,,etc etc .
When we used to go in the old days some of the vendors were shepherds and would say they were fascinated with how we would scoop up the roving and even ask us “ what are you going to do with this stuff ?” 😂😂😂 that is how “genuine “ the festival was .
The pop ups around the festival seem to be predominately hand dyed merino blends .
I am guessing that the yarn bases don’t come from the local farms that the festival was set up for ?
I am of the opinion that the original festival is run usually by volunteers and runs like a well oiled machine .
We need to support the festival at the fairgrounds because THAT is what keeps those fairgrounds ( aka venues ) THERE for us .
It’s difficult to keep the midway going with the food vendors , keep the buildings safe and operational, keep the security employees so they are there for us, keep the first aid team available. And if the employees there ARE paid it helps the locals .
It’s like keeping an “industrial base “ alive ,,,like the mills in USA .
When I saw the crowds at cakepalooza last year at $20 pp I wondered where all that money went since it was in a parking lot and we parked on a neighborhood street and I had to go into someone’s home to use the bathroom ( which felt very awkward ) and I’m sure the tents belonged to the vendors .
I saw “for profit “ private enterprising …. NOT the same situation as the festival at the fairgrounds.
I would NEVER EVER “pay” $35 -$50 to “shop”.
The $13.50 for the fairgrounds is a bargain .
I don’t pay to shop … I pay for the experience of the fairgrounds and the local flavor .
I’m not very good at explaining this I think unfortunately.
I think the yarn vendors should set up in the fairgrounds ( maybe share a booth if need be ) instead of the pop ups outside of the original festival .
Now , my husband explained that the additional events of Thursday and Friday make the entire “weekend “ an “experience “ that folks come for …
Maybe that is so.🤷♀️.
But I’m rather old fashioned and want to support American wool farmers , woolen mills , local wool crafters , and the fairgrounds to include 4H etc .
How much hand dyed merino can the market bear ? And we’re do those merino bases come from -
Again , I think the vendors should be renting booths or space for their tents at the fairgrounds .
No one … no individual… no pair of individuals… with no matter how many sponsors
Will be able to run an event like the one on the fairgrounds…
That requires “teams” of hard working DEDICATED individuals ( like the hard working😍 ladies that keep the ladies room moving along !)
THESE are the people that deserve our continued support .
From my understanding, these other events popped up bc the NY sheep and wool event have very limited spots available for new vendors.
@@theknittingpt actually there have been many empty booths the past few years … I’ve been going every year since 2008 .
Vendors struggled to get booths back before the pop up events started.
So the fairgrounds accommodated by allowing outdoor tents … and some vendors shared booths .
As the pop up events grew ,,, we see more and more empty booths and tent spaces .
It is unfortunate what happened but at least no one was in a war zone.
And this all start because two women had "creative differences". Lol, WOMEN!
Really? What do you think happens when men have "differences", Christine? Google " war" and enjoy.
@@herlastvoyage Sorry, but women are much more catty than men. They start problems for no reason at all, are filled with nonsense drama and many of them talk behind each other's backs. That is why I prefer men friends over women. Good for you if you have found those rare cool women friends.