Subli Glaze™ Adhesion Promoter is first required to allow your chosen Subli Glaze™ product to bond effectively to the substrate, when you are applying it to any hard substrate with a smooth surface such as metal, glass, or acrylics. It allows your chosen Subli Glaze™ product to adhere to hard substrates with a smooth surface and to prevent the separation of coating and substrate after pressing.
With sublimation, I have found it to be not so much actual pressure as FULL CONTACT with the surface. Inside the bottom of the may have tiny variations and even with sand, it might not be making even contact. Also I'll bet your sand doesn't get hot enough for long enough. By the time it gets really hot all the way down against the design , time is probably almost up. I wonder if it would help to cut a round piece of that green heat conductive mat and put that down first on top of the design, then just a little weight that would allow the heat to get in there? Like a handful of rocks so there are gaps for hot air to get in? That's what I would try next if I was doing this :)
We are still testing this as the sand didn't work out! We will keep you posted. I'm hoping a company comes up with something else in the meantime! It would be so fun to add designs on the inside of the mug! 🙂- Dawn
Simply, the sand takes over 3hrs to get to the correct temp also acts as an insulator so the base doesnt heat. Use a handfull of pennies to weight the paper.
thanks for posting this, I love these videos, as I'm old and new to this. I don't know why someone doesn't come up with a smaller plate style element, the size of the inside of the cup and just do it that way, I may try to cut one of mine down to see it I can get it to work. Also I don't think the sand gets hot enough for the proper length of time to turn the ink to gas for transfer as the sand heats up at a much slower rate than the rest of the cup. but pressure is also the problem, I think anyway...
Hi, I know its been awhile but as I was having my coffee just now, I saw a small design on the inside top of my mug (that was a repeat of the cat design on the outside) and thought to myself, hey, can we sublimate inside of a mug??? and so off to the internet I went to you Design Bundles and here I found your video.. now I see the attempts you made were unsuccessful, so since this posting, were you ever able to actually successfully do this? I would love to try it, just for my own purposes. I searched other videos and no one really got it to work aside from a few saying sand worked (but as we see in your case, it doesn't seem to work, which would probably be my outcome if i tried). So if any other attempts were done using a different method, please let me know! (this goes for any other user that happens to see this comment and can add to it).. thank you again for all the great videos!
Maybe a circle of ceramic place on top of the sand. ( a little smaller than mug) and clamp it on top and bottom of mug. Make it as tight as possible. Then put in oven
wonder if you packed/pressed the sand in the mug and laid a heavy object on top that it might help give it more pressure. I enjoyed the video and I am sorry it didn't work. I know you did your best and everything you do is greatly appreciated.
Thank you Malia!! Oh my godness we even talked about putting a small weight in there!! Some company needs to come out with something!! We appreciate your kind words and we love having you watch and craft with us 😍 - Dawn
I'm waiting for mugs coming when they arrive I'm going to try cutting a piece of wood to go on top of the sand and use a clamp to push the wood down into the sand to get maximum compression :)
Pack the sand instead of just pouring it in. Or use the glass weights that you use when you ferment vegetables , but not sure if they would take the heat
I say instead of the sand try getting a potato masher and stick on a piece of round silicone to the end of it, once put a mug with design into the mug press, apply pressure with the siliconed potato masher all the way through the heating process but obviously wear heat gloves or oven gloves..... I think by applying this pressure this might just work as long as the mug is heating from the bottom as well as on the green sides.... Love your informative videos thank you for them!
Heavy rock sounds good but if you really think about what pressure normally heat press creates and heat at the same time... I think rock can't compare 😅
Heavy rock sounds good but if you really think about what pressure normally heat press creates and heat at the same time... I think rock can't compare 😅
Maybe... I still think i need more pressure. If I imagine a heat press and how much pressure it gives or when I put my whole body weight on easy press to press it .... sand just doesn't seem to be able to do it...
Maybe spray the subli directly on the design so it will stick a bit better. But then again if it has to dry first so that won't work either. What if you just spray the side of the cup and tape it down tight instead of putting it on the bottom of the cup. Anything is worth a try. I wish you the best of luck with that project. Thanks Crystal
Subli Glaze™ Adhesion Promoter is first required to allow your chosen Subli Glaze™ product to bond effectively to the substrate, when you are applying it to any hard substrate with a smooth surface such as metal, glass, or acrylics.
It allows your chosen Subli Glaze™ product to adhere to hard substrates with a smooth surface and to prevent the separation of coating and substrate after pressing.
Yea I need to get it. I just saw product online and thought this is all I needed until I held that can in my hand 🥲 Definitely need to order it !
What about ceramic beans like what you use for baking pie cases blind.
Maybe but still have a bad feeling it's not enough pressure
With sublimation, I have found it to be not so much actual pressure as FULL CONTACT with the surface. Inside the bottom of the may have tiny variations and even with sand, it might not be making even contact. Also I'll bet your sand doesn't get hot enough for long enough. By the time it gets really hot all the way down against the design , time is probably almost up. I wonder if it would help to cut a round piece of that green heat conductive mat and put that down first on top of the design, then just a little weight that would allow the heat to get in there? Like a handful of rocks so there are gaps for hot air to get in? That's what I would try next if I was doing this :)
Interesting idea.... I might need to try that!
Try inserting a skinny glass or something similar filled with sand, it may be that when you pour in the sand, it gets in-between the paper and the mug
Could be. But whatever I think about seems not to compare to the pressure of heat press and it's heat I think...
I wonder, since there was NO transfer at all, if the inside of the mug has the sublimation coating.
Hi there! We chatted about this as well and I don't think there is coating on the inside! - Dawn
Sand in the bottom about an inch deep, then a sock full of rocks on top of that for added pressure?
Maybe! I still doubt it will be enough though 😅
What type of sand are you using? Would say Silica sand have benefits over playground sand?
We are still testing this as the sand didn't work out! We will keep you posted. I'm hoping a company comes up with something else in the meantime! It would be so fun to add designs on the inside of the mug! 🙂- Dawn
Some type of real weight like pie weights. A cup full of pie weights.
Maybe that would work
Thanks. Hope we can get there. You got this. X
Simply, the sand takes over 3hrs to get to the correct temp also acts as an insulator so the base doesnt heat. Use a handfull of pennies to weight the paper.
Thank you for the suggestion! - Dawn
Could it be it needs the pressure and a heat source on the design.
Use small lead pellets
thanks for posting this, I love these videos, as I'm old and new to this. I don't know why someone doesn't come up with a smaller plate style element, the size of the inside of the cup and just do it that way, I may try to cut one of mine down to see it I can get it to work. Also I don't think the sand gets hot enough for the proper length of time to turn the ink to gas for transfer as the sand heats up at a much slower rate than the rest of the cup. but pressure is also the problem, I think anyway...
I totally agree I think it's both pressure and temp that is a problem!
I wonder if the adhesion would help and if you used something solid like those baking beads you put in pie shells
I just think neither can compare to heat created by a heat press...
You can probably use the crockpot liner bags as they are for use with high temps.
So interesting! I will forward this to Crystal! - Agata
What about heated rocks?
Hi, I know its been awhile but as I was having my coffee just now, I saw a small design on the inside top of my mug (that was a repeat of the cat design on the outside) and thought to myself, hey, can we sublimate inside of a mug??? and so off to the internet I went to you Design Bundles and here I found your video.. now I see the attempts you made were unsuccessful, so since this posting, were you ever able to actually successfully do this? I would love to try it, just for my own purposes. I searched other videos and no one really got it to work aside from a few saying sand worked (but as we see in your case, it doesn't seem to work, which would probably be my outcome if i tried). So if any other attempts were done using a different method, please let me know! (this goes for any other user that happens to see this comment and can add to it).. thank you again for all the great videos!
Maybe a circle of ceramic place on top of the sand. ( a little smaller than mug) and clamp it on top and bottom of mug. Make it as tight as possible. Then put in oven
I wonder if the pie weights would provide more weight.
I came here to suggest pie weights as well! 😁 Maybe a layer of sand so you don't get the marble imprints, then top the sand with pie weights!
@@kjoscrappinmama Great minds 😃
I will have to try it so many people mentioned it!
The issue, I think, is that your sand does not get hot enough to activate the sublimation inks - it is actually acting as an insulation from the heat
Miss her!!!
Try a round heavy rock on top of the sand.
Still think not enough pressure comparing to heat press 🥲
what about pie weights for pressure
Hi Theresa! We were thinking of adding weights! We've reached out to a few sublimation companies to see what they suggest! - Dawn
Im thinking of making a round sticker, placing it on the inside bottom then using clear epoxy. Do you think this will work?
It would work for having a design in there but I am not sure if it would be safe to drink from unfortunately - Agata
wonder if you packed/pressed the sand in the mug and laid a heavy object on top that it might help give it more pressure. I enjoyed the video and I am sorry it didn't work. I know you did your best and everything you do is greatly appreciated.
Thank you Malia!! Oh my godness we even talked about putting a small weight in there!! Some company needs to come out with something!! We appreciate your kind words and we love having you watch and craft with us 😍 - Dawn
I'm waiting for mugs coming when they arrive I'm going to try cutting a piece of wood to go on top of the sand and use a clamp to push the wood down into the sand to get maximum compression :)
please, please let us know how it went ! I would love to crack the code :)
Pack the sand instead of just pouring it in. Or use the glass weights that you use when you ferment vegetables
, but not sure if they would take the heat
Yea I have to test all of those. Seems like it will be a long way to figure it out 😅
Yeah I'm a noob but I agree you need more pressure
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Could you modify a metal G clamp for the purpose of additional pressure for this to work?
That is so interesting. I'll give it a thought....
Reading these comments and thinking we need Bill Nye the science guy 😆
Lol we need all the help we can get! - Dawn
I say instead of the sand try getting a potato masher and stick on a piece of round silicone to the end of it, once put a mug with design into the mug press, apply pressure with the siliconed potato masher all the way through the heating process but obviously wear heat gloves or oven gloves..... I think by applying this pressure this might just work as long as the mug is heating from the bottom as well as on the green sides.... Love your informative videos thank you for them!
Thank you, Marty! We are always willing to try new things so we will add this to our list 🥰 - Dawn
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Sure hope you figure this out☺️☺️ This is a cute idea🎄🎄Thank you for trying first💞💞
Thank you Robin! Fingers crossed I figure it out 😅
Perhaps it needed more time in the oven. Was the sand hot when it was poured out?
It was really hot! I think it's pressure honestly. Imagine pressure from heat press vs this small amount of sand. Huge difference!
I think you would need some sort of clamp for the pressure. I'm interested to see if you manage to find a way. Good luck 🙂
Maybe! Thank you Greig!
Have you tried maybe trying to pack the sand down a little bit?
Yes, and still didn't work... 🥲
I also think the sand is getting under the print and lifting it … not in direct contact.
You are probably right!
Tape it down tightly 1st
Very hard inside the mug. I have a bad feeling that even if I would do that the pressure and temp are not high enough 🥲
Thanks for responding. I watched a video on how to fix the problem, the guy used a vacuum heat press machine & sand.
I really want to help you accomplish the task, because I want to make as well😊😊
Could a company make a heavy cement or rock design?
Heavy rock sounds good but if you really think about what pressure normally heat press creates and heat at the same time... I think rock can't compare 😅
It’s the lack of pressure. It will be interesting to see if that other spray will help.
I think same!
Hello Crystal Ann! Hopefully it will work this time!!
I hoped so too!
Where state do you live. I like to know where the tutorials come from.
Arkansas :)
@@DesignBundles I live in Indian Land,SC just 5 minutes from Charlotte the North Carolina border
What about a heavy rock that fits in the mug?
Heavy rock sounds good but if you really think about what pressure normally heat press creates and heat at the same time... I think rock can't compare 😅
I have tried it on cotton t shirts and works very well
Sounds good ! I think I will try it on all sort of blanks...
I say wet sand would be good weight
Maybe... I still think i need more pressure. If I imagine a heat press and how much pressure it gives or when I put my whole body weight on easy press to press it .... sand just doesn't seem to be able to do it...
Hi from the UK .
Hello there!
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Thank you!
Maybe spray the subli directly on the design so it will stick a bit better. But then again if it has to dry first so that won't work either. What if you just spray the side of the cup and tape it down tight instead of putting it on the bottom of the cup. Anything is worth a try. I wish you the best of luck with that project. Thanks Crystal
Thank you Geryann ! Do you mean on the side but inside ? Outside is no issue really!
Good attempt!!
Thank you
NO THINK IT WILL NOT WORK
Good call!