"That's not my name"! I may have told this story here before, but I once issued a citation to a person and spelled their last name wrong. In court they showed up to dispute the ticket claiming that it should be canceled because of the error. They claimed there was no proof that they were the person who received the ticket. The Judge asked them one simple question: "Then how did you know to come here in the first place?" *crickets*
"You don't see lawyers just yelling at each other" umm, judge Middleton we watch Law Talk With Mike, we do actually get to see lawyers just yelling at each other
"You left it there without the keys in it?" "Absolutely not. I have the keys right here. If she wanted the keys, she could have come and got the keys." I'm pretty sure this means she's been lying to the judge. How can you have the keys in your possession if you left them with the vehicle you abandoned on their property?
Had I been the judge, I would have asked her: "So you if she came to you for the keys but still refused to give you back the $2,000, would you really have given her the keys?" Of course not, she wouldn't have. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if she really did block the pole barn on purpose. It's too bad none of those two thought to take pictures at the time. Personally, whenever I take/return a rental car after hours, I always take a video and a copious amount of pictures. I don't want to be accused of causing damages, or parking at the wrong location, or of not returning the keys. I think the judge was wrong on this one, I wouldn't have given the plaintiff a dime in this case.
Pro tip: if your daycare owner plans to transport children around in a 20-year-old van that isn't even registered in her name or mechanically inspected, you might want to discourage "excursions".
Incredibly irresponsible! I would pull my kid out if that was my daycare. If she's willing to risk the kids safety in that van what else is a safety risk at that daycare? Daycare isn't cheap, I expect my kids to be kept safe.
Even rodents can chew up wiring sufficiently to total a sedentary vehicle. It's a real and too common a situation. Some manufacturers went to wiring insulation that is soy based. Squirrels and mice will eat it. Spend $$$ for diagnosis and repair, then they will find more fresh wires to ruin again!
@@shotforshot5983 No doubt, I bought a car that was a couple of years old and very low miles. It had a strong fragrance smell and what I thought was new leather. After a while I could smell a heavy musk that I assumed had be from and animal living in it at one time. In Jerry Seinfeld fashion I traded it in on a new car after about a year. It was a droptop so I didn’t have to smell it all the time.
Yes, I learned that lesson too (but just make sure that your counter claim is reasonable, otherwise a judge could side against you if it's not). Also, record the sale through official channels right away. Keep copious records of everything on iCloud or Google Drive. Take a picture of the van blocking the doors to your pole barn. Keep the receipt of the dealer-approved locksmith coming to the van on your property to redo the lock (this can get super expensive). Etc.
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I even wonder if she has recent cochlear implants or hearing aids. Maybe it's just a speech impediment. But she did give a different name. (That I didn't make out fully) Mistaken identity happens, it could be they got the wrong person.
@@shotforshot5983 She said "that's not my name *anymore*" so it's the right person she just don't use the name any more, if she had a legal name change or not is another issue.
In “Mindfulness” education, as part of Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, we teach patients to try and view otherwise emotional circumstances without judgement. “I don’t think we’re going to get through this, today” is a perfect example of how this skill can be used.
9:18 kudos to the bag of rust, that's epic right there! lol There's a pic floating around of a vehicle that has been sitting on the lawn so long there's only the axles and a line of rust around the perimeter where the vehicle once was. ...."this is the vehicle I bought" lolol
I supervised an employee who was from the Bayou. Almost, but not quite, a simalar way of speaikng. Very honest honerable human being. But, other workers from central Iowa, (NOT ALL) seemed as adults to make fun of this vet who talked different than others in the area. Interesting. Thank you for the video. :) Ivan. !!
By dropping off the car on her property and leaving for a 1 1/2 year it sounds like it should have been determined that the vehicle was abandoned. She sent her letter to pick it up after a year and half and she still didn't pick it up. The only way to get rid of it was to get a title so you can scrap it. In my opinion Middleton was wrong.
I agree and thought the same thing. A lot of passive aggressive behavior on both sides. I would have made the claim that she paid the 2K, defaulted on the rest of the payments, and then car was basically repossessed. It isn't uncommon for folks to return cars they can't pay for - I realize normally they don't, but it does happen. Based on the time frame, the person buying the car defaulted on an inferred loan. Judge Middleton basically just split the baby.
If the title had been properly transferred, I think you would be exactly right about abandonment. Since the title was never transferred, then I think as Mike said the sale was never fully consummated in the first place.
This judge’s ponytail always makes me laugh. Man, I’m sure these judges just LOVE this new Zoom trials haha no one seems to realize that you can not talk over each other during a preceding 🤣🤣
Apparently he had a traditional haircut until around COVID. He had trouble getting a haircut & decided that he could better relate to non-traditional litigants if he maintained an unusual haircut.
5:39 I wish if courts are going to do zoom trials they would spend $250 and hire an audio engineer for an hour. Why? The sound quality in that room could benefit from some soft coatings on the walls. The clarity of the audio would improve 100%.
Before the Judge decided, I was thinking to myself, “I’d probably split it 50:50.” The buyer blew it by not returning the keys. She’s lucky the Judge didn’t rule that she abandoned the car and give her nothing.
I thought she was deaf until she responded to questions. She may have some form of traumatic brain injury. I had an uncle who had scarlet fever as a baby back in the 1920s who talked similarly, and he was blind in one eye and partly paralyzed on the same side. Very sweet , lovely man, but he had the mental capacity of a 7 year old child.
@Lazy I Ranch Thank you, and I meant no disrespect. My mother in law was functionally deaf and was taught to speak at a young age. She's in heaven now so she hears just fine.
Judge Simpson is like my mom used to be (she passed quite awhile ago). Sweet, kind, helpful but when you go that one last step she was a whirlwind.....Simpson is that way when he gets past patient.
With the first woman, when the judge can’t get a word in and they have to send her back to her cell, what does the judge do since he legally still has to go through the process?
That first girl said she took the van to the scrap yard a year and a half later, but she previously had said the van was in perfect working condition. Who scraps a working vehicle? Why not re-sell it again and get even more money from it if its just working perfectly? Not sure why the judge didnt catch that part.
No he didn't........ what I hope he taught that women was to lawyer up and appeal. It is 100% your responsibility to transfer a title when you BUY(not sell) a vehicle. It's actually a criminal offense if you don't......I've gone to jail for failure to register a vehicle. That woman should have went to the DMV and released the vehicle I can't remember what it's called but you basically tell them that you no longer own it and it's not your responsibility anymore.
Whenever I sell a used car I always invite the prospective buyer to take the car to a mechanic of THEIR choice, as long as the car stays within my view the entire time!!!
I've seen many a customer who purchased a vehicle THEN brings it to me to correct a list of problems.. try to raise it and the lift arms just keep rising up through the chassis rust with the wheels still on the ground! I've also seen two totaled vehicles welded together (worse than my 8 year old daughter could do). Seen frames rusted in half, engine blocks JB welded, gear oil in the engine to quiet etc etc. Your preferred mechanic will charge you for evaluating a prospective purchase. But that's just good sense. As to this case, the purchaser abandoned the vehicle after legal purchase! That's all on her!
You can't take a vehicle back after 10 days. Both were in the wrong here. If you buy a used car in an area they salt the roads, you HAVE to check the chasis. If someone parks a vehicle on your property, you cannot just take the car after 10 days. Judge Middleton was completely right here.
I think Judge Middleton is COMPLETELY wrong on this decision. There is ZERO way you can buy a used vehicle and just take it back. Then you just leave it?!?! What an absolutely terrible decision!! Usually he does a great job but that was pathetic and insane. Sad to see him make decide that. 🤦🏻♂️
@@LawTalkWithMike the contract was never completed because she never finished paying........on top of that if you give someone 2000 dollars drive a car for a week never transfer the title.....IT IS 100% THE BUYERS RESPONSIBILITY. Then abandoned the vehicle on said persons property how do they suddenly owe you money.... there's a loophole that you have to pay someone back if they commit a criminal offense by not transferring title and getting the car tagged and paying taxes. There is no complications about it Middleton was wrong all around. That woman abandoned her vehicle on that poor woman's property she should be paying for storage and she should be paying the rest of the contract.
A reasonable position to take but not the only one. If the contract is rescinded that throws us in to the real of equity or as we say in the profession (making shit up) both your analyses and judge’s analysis are perfectly acceptable in that scenario.
"That's not my name"!
I may have told this story here before, but I once issued a citation to a person and spelled their last name wrong. In court they showed up to dispute the ticket claiming that it should be canceled because of the error. They claimed there was no proof that they were the person who received the ticket. The Judge asked them one simple question: "Then how did you know to come here in the first place?" *crickets*
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Lol!!
That is one ingenious judge! Great question! LOL
People are stupid. Lol
That's awesome 😅
Love Judge Henderson's "I don't think we are going to be able to do this today." My new mantra.
Are you a teenager?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I actually disagree with judge Middleton for once. I think she abandoned it so she shouldn’t get anything back
Worked for King Solomon...
Your right she shouldn't get jack shit back
I totally agree. I was gonna say the exact same thing.
I agree
Yeah wtf
"You don't see lawyers just yelling at each other" umm, judge Middleton we watch Law Talk With Mike, we do actually get to see lawyers just yelling at each other
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That is exactly what I said! 🤣
"You left it there without the keys in it?"
"Absolutely not. I have the keys right here. If she wanted the keys, she could have come and got the keys."
I'm pretty sure this means she's been lying to the judge. How can you have the keys in your possession if you left them with the vehicle you abandoned on their property?
Had I been the judge, I would have asked her: "So you if she came to you for the keys but still refused to give you back the $2,000, would you really have given her the keys?" Of course not, she wouldn't have. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if she really did block the pole barn on purpose. It's too bad none of those two thought to take pictures at the time. Personally, whenever I take/return a rental car after hours, I always take a video and a copious amount of pictures. I don't want to be accused of causing damages, or parking at the wrong location, or of not returning the keys. I think the judge was wrong on this one, I wouldn't have given the plaintiff a dime in this case.
I swear judge Middleton said, " I got scammed into buying a Man that is a lemon." .....sing it sister and welcome to the club!
😂😂😂 ditto haha
Indeed! 👌🤣💕
I'll take a Lemondrop🍸Martini over a "leman"🤣any day!
😄I know all about that kind of buyer's remorse!
Pro tip: if your daycare owner plans to transport children around in a 20-year-old van that isn't even registered in her name or mechanically inspected, you might want to discourage "excursions".
Incredibly irresponsible! I would pull my kid out if that was my daycare. If she's willing to risk the kids safety in that van what else is a safety risk at that daycare? Daycare isn't cheap, I expect my kids to be kept safe.
Unless you're a church. They get away with everything.
@@thetruepatriot7733 I pay 1k a month 250 a week I'd be upset too
@@johnathancampbell1056 I have two kids in daycare part time and I pay $950 a month.... daycare prices are ridiculous.
"She didn't let me have a mechanic check it."
Yeah. Right there, that's the end of this deal.
“ that’s not true!….I have the keys right here!”
I saw the Middleton car case live, but didn't understand the title issue. Thanks for clearing that up. Oh no... I learned something 🙃
“My parents drove it, there was nothing wrong with it”
“We scrapped it”
Even rodents can chew up wiring sufficiently to total a sedentary vehicle. It's a real and too common a situation. Some manufacturers went to wiring insulation that is soy based. Squirrels and mice will eat it. Spend $$$ for diagnosis and repair, then they will find more fresh wires to ruin again!
@@shotforshot5983 No doubt, I bought a car that was a couple of years old and very low miles. It had a strong fragrance smell and what I thought was new leather. After a while I could smell a heavy musk that I assumed had be from and animal living in it at one time. In Jerry Seinfeld fashion I traded it in on a new car after about a year. It was a droptop so I didn’t have to smell it all the time.
If my kid was in Ms. Cook's daycare he'd be out the instant I saw this I can tell you!!!
Just the way she talks, I wouldn't have enrolled my kid after the initial meeting lol
Right she has no sense
Always file a counter claim is what I learned.
Yes, I learned that lesson too (but just make sure that your counter claim is reasonable, otherwise a judge could side against you if it's not). Also, record the sale through official channels right away. Keep copious records of everything on iCloud or Google Drive. Take a picture of the van blocking the doors to your pole barn. Keep the receipt of the dealer-approved locksmith coming to the van on your property to redo the lock (this can get super expensive). Etc.
A compromise is the solution that makes all parties involved equally unhappy.
All that barking woman and judge stayed cool as a cucumber. that's amazing 👏🏽
She bought the van as is and then dumped it, she should not have gotten a dime
Exactly
Right the Judge was so wrong.
“She says you left the car with no keys”
“That is not true, she just had to ask me for the keys, I didn’t want to leave it there with keys”
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👌💕 exactly. What she said 😊
I have the utmost respect for Rachel McDuffie. Wonderful smile, exceptional demeanor, as well as being legally and procedurally on point.
Was the first woman hard of hearing? She sounded like she was deaf but she was responding I guess to what he was saying.
I even wonder if she has recent cochlear implants or hearing aids. Maybe it's just a speech impediment. But she did give a different name. (That I didn't make out fully) Mistaken identity happens, it could be they got the wrong person.
I thought the same thing. Hard of hearing and crazy.
I’m proud of Mike for not playing FRENCH or DEAF:
What actor said this in a movie:
👤🗯️ Does anybody want a peanut?!
🗣️ Lou Ferrigno
@@shotforshot5983 She said "that's not my name *anymore*" so it's the right person she just don't use the name any more, if she had a legal name change or not is another issue.
@@kosgoth I heard like that, but none of her testimony was intelligible enough to attest to.
Middleton has the best verbiage and catch phrases 🤣
Mike. "Ahmarillo"? You broke my heart.
In “Mindfulness” education, as part of Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, we teach patients to try and view otherwise emotional circumstances without judgement. “I don’t think we’re going to get through this, today” is a perfect example of how this skill can be used.
9:18 kudos to the bag of rust, that's epic right there! lol There's a pic floating around of a vehicle that has been sitting on the lawn so long there's only the axles and a line of rust around the perimeter where the vehicle once was. ...."this is the vehicle I bought" lolol
That Winslow dude is driving during this entire hearing.
Awww snap.
(See, I can talk like the cool kids)
I logged in just in time for Mike to say, goodbye.
That's gucci but the "cool" kids haven't said awww snap for about a decade now
Honestly the woman that sold it, didn’t do anything wrong other than the title exchange.
This Judge is my hero lol... I just found your channel through Bigen, you are hilarious 😂😆
Way to go BIGEN for getting big enough for people to find Mike through him instead of the other way around ❗️
@@iamskippy They are both awesome, different perspective on each video! Good stuff.
It must be maddening to try to question these two over that vehicle.
I thought the lady in funny dark pink was deaf at first. Interesting. Thank you for the video. :) ivan
I supervised an employee who was from the Bayou. Almost, but not quite, a simalar way of speaikng. Very honest honerable human being. But, other workers from central Iowa, (NOT ALL) seemed as adults to make fun of this vet who talked different than others in the area. Interesting. Thank you for the video. :) Ivan. !!
And probably a cleft lip.
Middleton: “Ms Cook did you leave it without the keys?”
Cook: “no that’s a lie, I have the keys right here!!”
I love it
2:26 I am weak...The judges face looks so confused😂
Is it Pig Latin she speaks?
By dropping off the car on her property and leaving for a 1 1/2 year it sounds like it should have been determined that the vehicle was abandoned. She sent her letter to pick it up after a year and half and she still didn't pick it up. The only way to get rid of it was to get a title so you can scrap it. In my opinion Middleton was wrong.
I watched that one live and had the exact same thought as you.
I completely agree with you!! She bought it as is and then abandoned it!!
I don’t know the legal justification but I agree with you. Feels like Middleton is wrong here.
I agree and thought the same thing. A lot of passive aggressive behavior on both sides. I would have made the claim that she paid the 2K, defaulted on the rest of the payments, and then car was basically repossessed. It isn't uncommon for folks to return cars they can't pay for - I realize normally they don't, but it does happen. Based on the time frame, the person buying the car defaulted on an inferred loan. Judge Middleton basically just split the baby.
If the title had been properly transferred, I think you would be exactly right about abandonment. Since the title was never transferred, then I think as Mike said the sale was never fully consummated in the first place.
OK, Mike is already killing me and then Biggen chimes in! 😂
A bag of RUST! LMAO!
"A bag of rust, *thank you very much.*"
She does have a beautiful smile that lights up her whole face and is infectious.
I respect this judge he is so calm and stern
Judge Middleton, showing the wisdom of Solomon there.
The Middleton clip -Hey, Mike. Looks like you and the defendant coordinated your wardrobes.
Mike, can you start a GoFundMe to get a certain judge a makeover? Lol😊😊😊
This judge’s ponytail always makes me laugh. Man, I’m sure these judges just LOVE this new Zoom trials haha no one seems to realize that you can not talk over each other during a preceding 🤣🤣
Apparently he had a traditional haircut until around COVID. He had trouble getting a haircut & decided that he could better relate to non-traditional litigants if he maintained an unusual haircut.
Pre buy inspection:
How you can avoid this sort of scenario in the first place.
I love Middleton’s pony tail
I'm from Michigan and they salt the roads in winter, so always check the bottom underneath.
With this logic the next time the store refuses to refund me for something I'm going to throw it in the lobby and sue them 3 years later.
5:39 I wish if courts are going to do zoom trials they would spend $250 and hire an audio engineer for an hour. Why? The sound quality in that room could benefit from some soft coatings on the walls. The clarity of the audio would improve 100%.
Before the Judge decided, I was thinking to myself, “I’d probably split it 50:50.” The buyer blew it by not returning the keys. She’s lucky the Judge didn’t rule that she abandoned the car and give her nothing.
Agreed with you Mike , the judge should have take in consideration the expenses of the defendant
I think I did see this on Springer - they are married to the same guy who owns the towing company. This isn’t about the car, it’s about the guy:-)
Lol
Oh, the man who got angry at the additional court date. He redirected so well. Acknowledged his mistake and apologized. I respect that.
That first woman sounds like she has hearing problems. That sounded like deaf speach.
I thought she was deaf until she responded to questions. She may have some form of traumatic brain injury. I had an uncle who had scarlet fever as a baby back in the 1920s who talked similarly, and he was blind in one eye and partly paralyzed on the same side. Very sweet , lovely man, but he had the mental capacity of a 7 year old child.
@Lazy I Ranch Thank you, and I meant no disrespect. My mother in law was functionally deaf and was taught to speak at a young age. She's in heaven now so she hears just fine.
That is what I thought, or maybe had a cleft palate issue??
That's what I thought, as well.
Glad I waited for Judge Simpson!
Judge Simpson is like my mom used to be (she passed quite awhile ago). Sweet, kind, helpful but when you go that one last step she was a whirlwind.....Simpson is that way when he gets past patient.
Not the Jerry Springer show? Aw, I wanted to see the courtroom fight!
😂 👍
🤦🏻♀️ oh Middleton you’re great. You sure can wrangle cats
Winslow Teague in the lower left hand corner looks a lot like an animated paper cutout waving in the wind. 27:55 - 29:20 .
Prizes of screaming goats to whomever translates psycho Mcmumbles.
Last guy started to dig his own grave, until the judge stopped him.
Lmao!! I’m gonna give you .1 penny! Lmao!
Omg his little giggle 🤭 🤭
There is a dog in the bottom left corner and then a sleeping older man above that one. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Judge Middleton went old testament....split the truck in half and each take a half......lmao
Wow, that first one 😳😳
Right? Wtf was that
Love the plaid.
3:30 that stomach growl hahaha
That was a good one!🤙🏿
With the first woman, when the judge can’t get a word in and they have to send her back to her cell, what does the judge do since he legally still has to go through the process?
Mike the seller should take pictures of the van All the way around the van and under the van of the frame
The judge is hilarious. Thanks for that bag of rust. 😂😂😂😂
Fight in the Octagon? Hell no. THUNDERDOME!
" Break a deal, face the wheel ! "
That first girl said she took the van to the scrap yard a year and a half later, but she previously had said the van was in perfect working condition. Who scraps a working vehicle? Why not re-sell it again and get even more money from it if its just working perfectly?
Not sure why the judge didnt catch that part.
I saw that small claims matter on Judge Middletons channel yesterday, thinking what a good People's Court matter.
She has never sold anything personally or purchased anything personally. Wow
Judge Middleton is awesome
Omgosh, are you kidding me. She sent the Judge a bag of rust? What did she think $2000 was going to buy her?? She's crazy!!
Judge is teaching both of them a valuable lesson on the proper way to buy/sell a car
No he didn't........ what I hope he taught that women was to lawyer up and appeal. It is 100% your responsibility to transfer a title when you BUY(not sell) a vehicle. It's actually a criminal offense if you don't......I've gone to jail for failure to register a vehicle. That woman should have went to the DMV and released the vehicle I can't remember what it's called but you basically tell them that you no longer own it and it's not your responsibility anymore.
Whenever I sell a used car I always invite the prospective buyer to take the car to a mechanic of THEIR choice, as long as the car stays within my view the entire time!!!
I would look up the blue book value and give plaintiff half of that as a lesson.
That’s about 50 cents
replay gang gang. thanks for the content.
People forget that, although on Zoom, it's still court. You Must act accordingly.
Nuts!😂😂😂😂
If you buy a vehicle and then choose to abandon it, that is on you and you lose your money. I wouldn't grant her anything.
Judge Middleton rocks!
Loving the Columbia zip up shirt.
I love this
I've seen many a customer who purchased a vehicle THEN brings it to me to correct a list of problems.. try to raise it and the lift arms just keep rising up through the chassis rust with the wheels still on the ground! I've also seen two totaled vehicles welded together (worse than my 8 year old daughter could do). Seen frames rusted in half, engine blocks JB welded, gear oil in the engine to quiet etc etc. Your preferred mechanic will charge you for evaluating a prospective purchase. But that's just good sense. As to this case, the purchaser abandoned the vehicle after legal purchase! That's all on her!
Yes Mike, we definitely need a personal appearance by Rachel McDuffie😊
Gary Lewis (under the judge) fell asleep😂.
Can't be a LTWM vid without somebody accidentally muting themselves 😆
This is so crazy
The 2 civil litigants must be a real hoot at the PTA.
this brings to mind Judge Judy
Woman who lived to see the fall of Pontiac doesn’t even know it doesn’t exist anymore
I LOVE Judge Middleton! He's a no nonsense judge.
You can't take a vehicle back after 10 days. Both were in the wrong here. If you buy a used car in an area they salt the roads, you HAVE to check the chasis. If someone parks a vehicle on your property, you cannot just take the car after 10 days. Judge Middleton was completely right here.
It takes about 10 seconds to find out what year a vehicle is😄😄
27:45 mid left box.Are they trying to identify a body?
"she wouldn't let me look at it!" THEN DONT FRIGGIN BUY IT!!!!
Hahaha she said that’s not true then said I have the keys here
I think Judge Middleton is COMPLETELY wrong on this decision. There is ZERO way you can buy a used vehicle and just take it back. Then you just leave it?!?! What an absolutely terrible decision!! Usually he does a great job but that was pathetic and insane. Sad to see him make decide that. 🤦🏻♂️
Well it’s complicated the contract was never completed because the title wasn’t transferred.
@@LawTalkWithMike the contract was never completed because she never finished paying........on top of that if you give someone 2000 dollars drive a car for a week never transfer the title.....IT IS 100% THE BUYERS RESPONSIBILITY. Then abandoned the vehicle on said persons property how do they suddenly owe you money.... there's a loophole that you have to pay someone back if they commit a criminal offense by not transferring title and getting the car tagged and paying taxes. There is no complications about it Middleton was wrong all around. That woman abandoned her vehicle on that poor woman's property she should be paying for storage and she should be paying the rest of the contract.
A reasonable position to take but not the only one. If the contract is rescinded that throws us in to the real of equity or as we say in the profession (making shit up) both your analyses and judge’s analysis are perfectly acceptable in that scenario.
@@jefflane7291 Michigan Vehicle Code 257.240 *literally* says it's the responsibility of the seller to make sure the transfer happens.