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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

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  • @GrenMambaS30
    @GrenMambaS30 Год назад +42

    The para is for the people who already likes the moondrop tuning, or in china they call it the shui style tuning. I have tried the sundara many times as my friend owns one and always feel like the female vocals are lacking severely and prefer my old K701 that have so much issues but have a much brighter signature than the sundara. I have never heard a set of headphones have such a strong focus for forward female vocals and incredible airiness with that wide soundstage. It is the only pair of headphone that's tuned specifically tuned for jpop, cpop and acg music. Those music is an insanely small market in US and Europe, but in Asia, it's all the rage for audiophiles so it makes so much sense to put such an aggressively bright tuning on an open back that trades blow with the sundara on technical performance. I'm so glad it exists because it's something that I have been looking for.
    Also the thing isn't that heavy compared to the focals and audeze that I'm listening to that day and is perfectly comfortable for me, more so than my 58x and even the sundara, it's on shp9500 level of comfort. The weight hides itself well on your head with the wide padding and wide headband

    • @noobnoob5072
      @noobnoob5072 10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the informasjon 😀

    • @GrenMambaS30
      @GrenMambaS30 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@noobnoob5072 also be careful it dents easily💀 dented mine already

    • @flying.vending.machine
      @flying.vending.machine 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@GrenMambaS30 can it go back?

    • @RadoDani
      @RadoDani 4 месяца назад

      From my messing with IEMs I noticed the often bright tuning. And I figured it has to do with music preferences. I’m sure this product has its audience.

  • @thefritz1
    @thefritz1 Год назад +39

    I received the Moondrop Para about 4 weeks ago. I have several other headphones (including the Sundara and other planars) and I actually like the Para as an addition to my collection for its specific sound characteristics. I do agree with your description of its sound in stock form as bright and thin and I swapped the pads on the second day I owned them (super easy). I now use some deeper Fostex-like angled sheepskin pads and that helps a lot with comfort, bass extension, staging and reduced the shoutiness/brightness. I would give it a try if you can return them. Edit: They are only 8 Ohm of impedance so you need an amp with good current delivery for it to sound good. Edit2: That does not mean it needs a ton of power; the Para also works well on a Questyle M15 with its CMA modules (but not on a more average dongle-DAC).

    • @cameronmckinnon374
      @cameronmckinnon374 11 месяцев назад +1

      please link those earpads, that sounds great.

    • @pk.002
      @pk.002 10 месяцев назад

      @@cameronmckinnon374 I bought the Dan Clark Audio Ether angled sheepskin leather pads for mine and they are absolutely phenomenal on the Para.

  • @liammadridista2395
    @liammadridista2395 Год назад +7

    I appreciate the line running through the preference boundaries it helps me visualize how much over the target it is for my own personal trouble spots.

  • @raphaelvilleneuve9162
    @raphaelvilleneuve9162 Год назад +83

    Still waiting for the planar that will beat the Sundara at that price/performance ratio. But I can't complain, I've got the Sundara.

    • @lorenzolorenzo8402
      @lorenzolorenzo8402 Год назад +5

      Me too. The only sad thing is the build quality ): but I love my pair. The neutral approach encouragedmy try new styles of musis. I was testing it with metal musci (personal preference) and it sounded stellar. Then I was wondering "will it sound as great if try with..." Move forward a year and I've tried From Bjork, Miles Davis, MF DOOM, Bach... Cannibal Corpse and still it's endgame for me

    • @chrisbianchi8876
      @chrisbianchi8876 Год назад +12

      The price of the Edition XS has been lowered to 379. That might be it's only competition along with the Sennys

    • @guybuddy1
      @guybuddy1 Год назад +10

      Yes, and that's the best place to stay in... I was there a year ago. Now, I own a lcd-x and the Sundara sounds like shit in comparison.😢

    • @renbanhart.s
      @renbanhart.s Год назад +6

      Mm100

    • @MrAhuraMazda
      @MrAhuraMazda Год назад

      Will never happen. Theres only so much to improve even for $3000 headphones. In fact id bet they worsen the Sundara in an "update"

  • @BronsonWhite
    @BronsonWhite Год назад +15

    Just a suggestion. I enjoy your reviews and your production quality is top notch but could you please, please, PLEASE show the measurements of the headphones you are comparing against? You mentioned the Sundara as a comparison many times but without showing its measurements in comparison to the Para we can't see how it actually deviates. As an example, you say the Para has more treble than the Sundara, but where? This can matter to those of us that are sensitive in one area of treble and not in another (for instance, 5khz bothers me, 10khz does not). I also would have like to see how the bass roll off compares between the two, even though you didn't mention it. I think showing more measurements for comparison is especially important since you guys are showing measurements differently now so it gives us another frame of reference.
    Anyway, not trying to be negative or hate on your stuff or anything, just pointing out something that could help people make better informed buying decisions in the future. Thanks for what you do!

  • @Autodriveband
    @Autodriveband Год назад +5

    I’ll continue with Sundara and HD600, thanks for this video DMS.

  • @KmtS9
    @KmtS9 Год назад +1

    Oh wow! Was hoping you would cover the Para but didn't think you actually would. Thank you!

  • @EternalLife91
    @EternalLife91 Год назад +10

    Hi DMS, how are you and what did you have for breakfast today?

    • @TunaCanGuzzler
      @TunaCanGuzzler Год назад +2

      a teabag of nuts

    • @myquietreviews
      @myquietreviews Год назад +3

      ​@@TunaCanGuzzlerDAMN 😂😂😂😂 Cold Blooded 🥶🥶🥶

  • @aGrimTurtle
    @aGrimTurtle Год назад +8

    I'm someone who definitely prefers bright headphones. The 800s is my daily driver, I liked the 560s a lot. I'd love to see the DT990s on this kind of graph. I want to see how high that treble goes, because I liked it but it was even too bright for me lol

  • @TC-bz8sm
    @TC-bz8sm Год назад +4

    Great design of the hoodie, would be nice if heavy cotton t shirts would be available

  • @ReneHoffmann194
    @ReneHoffmann194 Год назад +2

    I love the new graph ❤

  • @carlhil2
    @carlhil2 Год назад +3

    Why no mm-100 in this comparison?

  • @iisakei2369
    @iisakei2369 Год назад +4

    moondrop did not launch KATO out of the blue. I would like to support them.
    Of course, whether I buy this or not is another matter.

    • @andrearenaudo9045
      @andrearenaudo9045 Год назад +1

      Yes, but you have to consider that their first in-ears to reach some grade of notoriety (the crescent and the kanas pro) at that time (I talk about 5-6 years ago) were seen as some of the best iems you could get at that price point. No one of their over-ears has got the same kind of reception

  • @Hijynx87
    @Hijynx87 Год назад +4

    Looks like I’ll be aiming for the ananda nano or something like the 109 pro or even a 6x0 Senny. Already have an edition xs.

    • @davidcoons89
      @davidcoons89 Год назад

      Not the Venus?

    • @El_Yukino
      @El_Yukino Год назад +1

      Get the 6x0s

    • @Hijynx87
      @Hijynx87 Год назад +1

      @@davidcoons89 not really interested tbh. I’ll probably aim for a warmish musical headphone.

    • @Hijynx87
      @Hijynx87 Год назад

      @@El_Yukino which 6x0 model? 660s/s2? 6xx/650? 600? Also had my eye on a sivga luan. I forgot to mention I have a fiio ft3 350ohm as well.

    • @El_Yukino
      @El_Yukino Год назад +1

      @@Hijynx87 600, 650/6XX or 580

  • @XeonX__ASMR__METAL-experiments

    Thanks for OBJECTIVE things

  • @chrisischannel
    @chrisischannel Год назад +1

    i use presonus studio one to record poduce mix and master my music. my question is what headphones will work to its full potential directly plugged into a 2023 macbook pro i dont have a headphone amp nor want to buy one..
    heres what apple says - whats your recommendation ?
    You can connect high-impedance headphones directly to compatible Mac computers introduced in 2021 or later.
    The 3.5 mm headphone jack on compatible Mac computers features DC load detection and adaptive voltage output. Your Mac can detect the impedance of the connected device and will adapt its output for low- and high-impedance headphones, as well as for line-level audio devices.
    When you connect headphones with an impedance of less than 150 ohms, the headphone jack provides up to 1.25 volts RMS. For headphones with an impedance of 150 to 1k ohms, the headphone jack delivers 3 volts RMS. This may remove the need for an external headphone amplifier.
    With impedance detection, adaptive voltage output, and a built-in digital-to-analog converter that supports sample rates of up to 96 kHz, you can enjoy high-fidelity, full-resolution audio directly from the headphone jack on your Mac.

  • @1fareast14
    @1fareast14 Год назад +1

    Unrelated, but I like the orange and green background, is is an image on a tv screen or rear projection?

  • @superidyt
    @superidyt 6 месяцев назад

    Can you leave a brief sound comparison between PARA and ANANDA Stealth?😊

  • @xyzed712
    @xyzed712 Год назад +1

    hey I respect you a lot. Please review Simgot ea500

  • @HesDeadJim
    @HesDeadJim 3 месяца назад

    You dont happen to have a youtube studio setup video or post describing how you set scene up by any chance?

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  3 месяца назад

      funny enough in this video I'm sitting in front of a TV with a scene that I made in blender, then just matched the lights on me to the lights in the scene.

  • @JoseFerreira-zb7wh
    @JoseFerreira-zb7wh Год назад +15

    Hifiman could release a Sundara 2 or an "organic" version where they would make a it a bit more balanced. a Touch more bass and a bit less treble. and keep a similar price point (as they could keep the built and design. well, maybe they could make the cups have a bit more swivel 😁)

    • @Qwervy
      @Qwervy Год назад +3

      +1 for the cup swivel although I have basically bent mine into the correct angle at this point 😅

    • @JoseFerreira-zb7wh
      @JoseFerreira-zb7wh Год назад +2

      @@Qwervy i don't find it a problem but it would definitely be an improvement. not much more to complain about really. specially for the price.

    • @Hijynx87
      @Hijynx87 Год назад +2

      @@Qwervyat least a bit of a swivel like the edition xs would be nice….whether it was designed that way or not I have no idea lol.

    • @VSN-wb2ly
      @VSN-wb2ly 11 месяцев назад

      EQ exist but it'd be fun to have some kind of bassier set

  • @gaidan2412
    @gaidan2412 Год назад +2

    What microphone does he use?

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Год назад +3

      It's a 3D printed microphone. "DSLR video shooter" has a great video about it.

  • @aesth1cc
    @aesth1cc Год назад +1

    DMS, how do you style your hair?

    • @h-dawg6462
      @h-dawg6462 Год назад +2

      i heard he teases his hair with the proprietary cable pins from the HE-1 !! 😁

    • @juanblanco7898
      @juanblanco7898 7 месяцев назад +1

      You like it? How do you do yours? Back when I still had hair I used hair mousse as a pre and a bit of wax as finish, which works best for fine hair, ime. Tried clays and styling powders as well. Those can be quite rough on your hair. Gel is the worst in many regards and works for a very limited amount of hairstyles. Then I discovered Crew products and never felt the need to use mousse again. Used their styling paste (gives your hair a nice slightly matte finish and good volume without making it sticky and/or stiff, works for both messy and slick looks) and clay with great results. It may not be the best brand out there, but it's very good and strikes a great balance between price and quality. One can would last me more than a year easily. Damn, I just realized how much do I miss that.

    • @aesth1cc
      @aesth1cc 7 месяцев назад

      @@juanblanco7898 Mine is similarly structured to his, it’s generally thick, so I only use water and a blow dryer. When I was younger, I used different hair product but none seem to work well with my hair without making it look like it hasn’t been washed. I‘m also the first person to go to turkey if my hairline recedes when I get older.

  • @arthurhaywood2184
    @arthurhaywood2184 Год назад

    Out of curiosity….. Have you tried the FiiO FT3 yet?

  • @AhmMansurApu
    @AhmMansurApu Год назад

    Sorry for disturb again But I listen music and also play game (Call of Duty) So what should I choose Pc38x or Hd560s

  • @TheTheShizzler
    @TheTheShizzler Год назад +3

    Some people want more treble and some people just want more cowbell

  • @kazumasatou6124
    @kazumasatou6124 Год назад +1

    How do these compare with the 800s in detail and freq response

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Год назад +2

      The 800S is significantly better

    • @kazumasatou6124
      @kazumasatou6124 Год назад

      @@DMS3TV thanks for the reply man! What would you say these sound the most similar to? Is the venus technically better?

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Год назад +3

      @@kazumasatou6124 a little bit, but as I mentioned in the vid you're better off with a hifiman sundara or HD6xx.

    • @kazumasatou6124
      @kazumasatou6124 Год назад +1

      @@DMS3TV nice, you held me off another expensive purchase xD

  • @Maj0rTac0
    @Maj0rTac0 Год назад

    Interested to get your thoughts on the Sony Mdr -mv1

  • @Hijynx87
    @Hijynx87 Год назад +2

    Moondrop parmigiana cheese grater

  • @ilpastor
    @ilpastor Год назад

    I would really like to try senny hd560S and 6xx

  • @masterxyr
    @masterxyr Год назад

    howdieoh
    do they stage and detail on par with the sundaras?

  • @h-dawg6462
    @h-dawg6462 Год назад

    of recent times there's something about non-oval shaped ear cups that scream AVOID! to me for some reason (?!?) 😆

  • @explodingheavens
    @explodingheavens Год назад

    I'm not much into perfection, but there is a lot of headphones that have frequencies too uneven or too sharp. Why not just go flattish like audeze. Even dark themed headphone can be more enjoyable than sharp one.
    Good thing there are some headphones like that, non-sharp.
    Though there is still am option to use different pads, if it changes sound so much.
    What's not much talked about however is max spl, I often find myself blasting volume lvls.
    That also makes no-peaks important as to not damage ears by accidental highs in music.
    Also happens a lot that my Amp stays at high volume, Like 24W instead of 12W, non sharp highs are welcome then.

    • @DaBigBoo_
      @DaBigBoo_ 8 месяцев назад

      Better yet. Focus on somthing more neutral and let amps + pads do the tuning. Its just more natural in my eyes. Sure some can learn in a certain directions but idk why anyone that wants a headphone that sounds harsh. Honestly if you cant do grado highs, dont bother.

    • @explodingheavens
      @explodingheavens 8 месяцев назад

      @DaBigBoo_ now I got he400se with 3d printed mesh and linear bass boost in pc, clean 1w ext dac boost, more powerful 2. Dac boost(going with 1 straight get me more background noise).
      So now it's quite natural, tho I can't black it to heaven, I hear such lows like never before...
      2 dac makes with volume slightly down so little noise that I don't hear it, with more I get nice loudness.
      Headph9nes are a bit heavy so ver6 long seasons are not easy, well, just little movement on head for now, still ok.
      Weight and pads matter

  • @wrusst
    @wrusst Год назад +1

    With such low distortion i wonder how it would EQ

    • @silentKeys20
      @silentKeys20 Год назад +2

      Most planars respond well to EQ. If anything getting something closer to neutral is ideal because you can really just add low or highs depending on your preference through EQ.

    • @atharvapallikulam9743
      @atharvapallikulam9743 Год назад

      @@silentKeys20 What are some ways i can EQ my headphone properly and use it in everyday tasks. Like is there an application for it? Besides Peace.....

    • @discoRyne
      @discoRyne 8 месяцев назад

      Not gonna lie atop Crinacle's AutoEQ settings these things are one of the most enjoyable listening experiences I've had for $269 shipped.

  • @HobbyTalk
    @HobbyTalk Год назад +1

    Alligator rhyme boosting comment

  • @AhmMansurApu
    @AhmMansurApu Год назад

    I play Call of Duty a lot could you please recommend me a Headphone for Footsteps , Surrounding sound EXT.
    I mean for Competitive gameplay

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Год назад

      PC38X

    • @AhmMansurApu
      @AhmMansurApu Год назад

      @@DMS3TV Okhh Thanks man Have a great day 🥰

  • @stephengriffin1541
    @stephengriffin1541 Год назад

    Bring back the Noontec Zoro. That’s what I say🙂

  • @Queen_K_Rool
    @Queen_K_Rool Год назад

    dang, title change

  • @misterringer
    @misterringer 7 месяцев назад

    I tried a pair and found them to be absolute rubbish. Mud city with any kind of volume and didn't take EQ very well, mostly because they couldn't handle bass at all. A $300 dollar pair of fart cans.

  • @ixoye56
    @ixoye56 Год назад

    I wonder why they make pads that don't fit adults? it is completely incomprehensible.

    • @mattrismatt
      @mattrismatt Год назад

      It's a conspiracy to sell additional pads!

  • @tradehut2782
    @tradehut2782 Год назад

    Why does Moondrop release something that cannot compete in the price point?

    • @Globalnet626
      @Globalnet626 3 месяца назад +1

      They're gonna release a sub 200 planar that performs just a tad worse than this. It's their MO in the IEM market

  • @legendredux1291
    @legendredux1291 Год назад

    Better than 560s? lol the activate windows

  • @theaudiophileworld
    @theaudiophileworld Год назад +2

    I can't agree with DMS. Stay tuned for my review of the Moondrop Para

  • @carminedesanto6746
    @carminedesanto6746 Год назад

    A swing and a MISS …but still
    In the game!

  • @andresgallego5727
    @andresgallego5727 Год назад +1

    I want Sundara killers for under 200$ and HD800esque headphones under 300$

    • @En_Joshi-Godrez
      @En_Joshi-Godrez Год назад +5

      "I want a ferrari for $10000" lmao

    • @andresgallego5727
      @andresgallego5727 Год назад

      @@En_Joshi-Godrez Come on the HD800s have been there untouched by anything it's time for something cheaper to take it down.

  • @aswinpanembrama8043
    @aswinpanembrama8043 Год назад +1

    it's just suck, almost all moondrop products only good for a wrecked taste person

    • @discoRyne
      @discoRyne 8 месяцев назад +1

      🧢. Arrive at that conclusion after you try the Para for yourself with a proper setup + Crinacle's AutoEQ.

    • @ILT12345
      @ILT12345 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@discoRyne doubt he can even afford that. That profile picture of him was taken in an audio store I frequent in my city where we're allowed to try high end headphones.

  • @MrAhuraMazda
    @MrAhuraMazda Год назад +2

    Theres no reason to buy anything else but a HD660S now that it's around $300. It's a slightly better 6XX but at $500 wasnt worth it. Honestly its pretty endgame for 95% of people just due to performance and build quality. I'm sure the Hifiman stuff is great but it's going to break. Maybe Dan Clark is the next step. I have Focals, I like the 660S better for comfort. Too much ChiFi stuff that may break. Thats fine with $200 IEMs but $1000 headphones, Im good. And Audeze are too heavy. Probably 800 series but thats $1800.

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Год назад +6

      Honestly I would take the 6XX over the 660S. Not as much a fan of the scoop in the upper mids/lower treble. Either way that whole line is great.

    • @MrAhuraMazda
      @MrAhuraMazda Год назад

      @DMS3TV i find the 660S to be the slightly technically superior option, but frequency response preferences override that. Price previously made this comparison a no-brainer as the 6XX was the easy steal. But with the 600 and 660S cheaper, it may be worth revisiting this debate

  • @kenc2894
    @kenc2894 Год назад

    I hate the new graph. I really hope this doesn't catch on with other channels.

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Год назад +3

      It's starting to catch on more actually and it's a significantly more useful way to display data.

    • @recode8453
      @recode8453 Год назад

      ​@@DMS3TVit is not. show raw and let people decide for themself.

    • @DMS3TV
      @DMS3TV  Год назад +4

      @@recode8453 people have proven time and time again that they can't read raw measurements.

  • @marksafe5463
    @marksafe5463 Год назад +1

    Most Audiophile headphones regardless of how good they sound are so butt ugly. This is no exception. 😂

    • @mattrismatt
      @mattrismatt Год назад

      In your opinion, what headphones look good... 'audiophile' or otherwise?

    • @marksafe5463
      @marksafe5463 Год назад +1

      @@mattrismatt most mass marketed headphones look better. Beats Bose Apple Sony etc. you really start to realize how ugly Audiophile headphones get with hifiman especially. At least with focal they have a certain style that doesn’t look like somebody put random parts together .

    • @jamesbittle9789
      @jamesbittle9789 Год назад

      @@marksafe5463 I disagree. Most mass-marketed headphones look cheap.

    • @El_Yukino
      @El_Yukino Год назад +2

      ​@@marksafe5463yeah sure mate

    • @KingdomKey57
      @KingdomKey57 Год назад +2

      @@marksafe5463 the headphone featured in this video has a very straightforward design language. I am so confused what you are saying? I assume the shape of the cup for the Hifiman series is what is bugging you? A lot of "Audiophile stuff" favors functionality and comfort over looks. The intended audience using "audiophile headphones" most likely are not leaving the house.