I'll admit: just before you started playing, I had a moment of anxiety at the thought that any of the weird designs might actually be a drastic improvement, and we would all have to change all our mouthpieces.... Bullet dodged.
Ha! Lol that would have been crazy "e Extra extra read all about it off center deep cup square rimmed mouthpieces (yes all 3 at once) is actually the way to go for effortless octave jumps, lip slurs, turns and perfect tone."
Well yesterday I 3d printed an adaptor that takes a standard cornet mouthpiece in one end and the other end plugs into a baritone lead pipe and allows you to play ridiculously high notes on bari
What would happen when you put a deep mouth piece into a already mellow instrument? Would it cause mass depression due to shear sadness you could make? Maybe. But would it be interesting. Probably not to most people. BUT WE ARE NOT MOST PEOPLE
Trent - brave attempt, and the square sounds actually surprisingly close to useable - I was expecting them all to have significant issues, but that wasn't too bad at all. The challenge with mouthpiece design (or modifications, which in many ways are the easiest way of getting to grips with how the different elements interact) is that different parts of the mouthpiece need to balance out with others... It all basically comes down to intonation patterns - bad mouthpieces will generally either compress the octaves (flat up high and sharp down low) or they'll expand them (sharp up high, flat down low). This is basically what's wrong with your "very deep" model - it sounds compressed, you could try shortening the length of the backbore... in short - cut off a couple of mm from the end of the shank, then sand down the outside of the shank to restore correct insertion (the diameter at the very tip ought to be measuring somewhere similar to your Bach mouthpiece anyway, right?)
Indeed - it's interesting stuff... unfortunately it can be costly to learn (as basically anything you modify becomes almost impossible to sell again, even if it plays well people don't want to buy modified stuff) and it's much easier to get a feel for if you're able to play to a fairly decent standard to begin with.
It's been a while but I think mellos do accept trumpet mouthpieces? Although it's better to use an actual mellophone piece. But I'm just a tuba player so idk.
First I thought that you have too much time on your hands. Then I thought that being able to tweak cup depth or rim size, etc. could be a revolutionary to design a mouthpiece to suit me individually.
I 3d printed a trombone to french horn mouthpeice adapter for my son who plays "the horn". The adapter also corrects for what I consider a design defect of french horn, that is requiring you to stick your hand in the bell to not play sharp.
The big cup reminds me of a megatone mouthpiece at first glance. Granted, I don't know what megatone is supposed to accomplish, I've only seen them be used in a school setting by someone who wanted to play really low and really loud. With the mellow tone from the 3D print, with some design improvements it could be interesting for someone playing a 3rd part or try plugging it into a flugelhorn.
Trent, I currently use a 1G Bach mouthpiece in my bass trombone. I like it because it has such a large deep cup size. A friend gave me a tuba mouthpiece to try, one he'd turned down the shank in the lathe to fit smaller size (eg large bore trombone). The sound was very dead compared to a normal trombone mouthpiece. The "very deep cup" you tried in this video sounded to me to be (almost) muted. Given the problems of register etc, I wonder if you made it just not quite so deep if it would sound better and/or be easier to blow. So putting the two concepts together; I think the tuba mouthpiece was too heavy and too big (diameter) for the trombone. However, I wonder if one was made to bass trombone diameter but as deep or slightly deeper than a tuba mouthpiece, what would it be like for sound and for playing. Now, on the other mouthpieces: Square; did you try playing it turned 45 degrees (so that it "faced" you as diamond shaped). The Offset; sometimes, especially on a tuba, there is need for a "bent" leadpipe to bring the mouthpiece further around the bell for playing. But how about if the mouthpiece was already "bent" rather than just offset?
Not really. The first results weren't great, but that might have been because I ended up using a pocket trumpet & a trumpet together to test, as I couldn't fit two normal trumpets in together.
you can do a deep V cup to get a nicer sound and less tuning problems, as long as it's not that deep. but like a Bach 5V. I've also designed a mouthpiece based on a shilke 28 horn mouthpiece that's been extended to but my Con 16E mellophonium back in the key of F (mine was in F#)
I can see a music store instead of stocking a lot of expensive mouthpieces keeping a library of cad files and being able to supply whatever a customer wants. Probably comparable prices and profit.
The deeper mouthpiece kinda sounds like the trumpet has a mute in it? Also, I know you won’t see this but would you be willing to do something lime this but with a baritone/trombone size?
Did you try the square mouthpiece with the top and bottom parallel to your teeth line or did you try it with the teeth line going through the corners of the mouthpiece (as if playing a diamond)?
Perhaps make a mold of your embouchure and design a mouthpiece to fit it? Or even easier, grind out an existing mouthpiece gradually to fit it. You can fill it back with epoxy glue.
This reminds me of something I saw about 40 years ago. It was a set of mouthpieces called 'The Doublers Mouthpiece'. In the box were 'French horn', 'trombone', and 'tuba' mouthpieces. Each was basically the shape and depth you'd expect, but the rims were all identical and the size of a trumpet mouthpiece. So the 'Tuba' mp was close to your 'very, very deep' mp... actually it was probably deeper. As a young know-it-all man I thought it was stupid and passed on purchase. I should have bought them. At worst, a collectors item.
You know what would be fun? It's a trumpet that uses a bigger mouthpiece but still fits in the horn. Like sticking a trombone mouthpiece into it but it works and it's not like terrible
How much smoothing have you done on the mouthpieces? Sanding/acetone smoothing? I could see a use for specialty mouthpieces e.g. if you’ve got a tooth damage. Or might an oval mouthpiece be more comfortable for long concerts? Maybe shape the rim but keep the inner dimensions?
I dont know about trumpet mouthpiece's but on the tuba the deeper the cup the more air/preasure you have to add, but it helps tubas get another low range octive
In my experience it’s quite similar on trumpet mouthpieces. On a deeper mouthpiece it allows for more air to pass through and you gain access to a massive low register, albeit at the cost of some endurance. I play on a massive Denis Wick 2 cornet mouthpiece and it is what gives me the best low range.
Wick actually makes (French) horn mouthpieces like that second one. They look like a Bach Megatone, but the cup actually IS that deep. They're not my favorite.
I am wondering if a deeper NORMAL Mouthpiece would allow for a more air ish sounding tone? the "deep mouthpiece" seems to provide a bit of this. could you explain how that tone is achieved?
You might have a word with your designer on the Spreadshirt merch. The Tuba takes up a reasonable span of space on the various printed items, but the Trumpet and Trombone seem to disappear into the background because they're so small.
Hi there Trent, could you try the deep cup mouthpiece with a flugelhorn or a cornet ? Yes you may need to reprint another one because of the backbore size. Oh well you already know that. Chur Bro !!
you should try selling the deep cut mouthpiece. it has such a unique sound, it's almost saxophone like or euphonium like. i know i would buy it myself. also you should try making an asymmetric mouthpiece
Perhaps it’s time for the flatulence powered 3-d printed .. what shall we call it.. derrière piece? Of course the required tubing would flatten the instrument tremendously requiring you to hammer the tunning slides in well past the limits.
Interesting experiments! With CAD and 3-D printing, we are no longer restricted to solids of revolution -- as you have shown. How about returning to the traditional design, but make it wider one way than the other, so its rim is roughly elliptical? Perhaps the best width and best length are not equal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_of_revolution
I don't think there's a huge scope for it with brass instruments, but in other instruments potentially. What size bed do you have on yours? I'd love to print a full "brass" instrument with a 3d printer, but mine is too small, unfortunately.
There are some 3d printed trumpets and at least one trombone, all with little success. I've only found one that sounds remotely good but it's just a bugle ruclips.net/video/edo-HsMKzas/видео.html I've heard of some college kid trying to print a baritone horn but that sounds like an ambitious project.
There is some use for it in the academic study of early woodwinds. There isn’t all that much for the mass market, but there have been very important historical reproductions like an original Adolphe Sax mouthpiece reproduction. 3D printing is incredibly useful with historical woodwinds in the fact it can easily create very specific tapers and poly-cylindrical bores.
Whats the name of the song played with the last mouthpiece the really deep mouthpiece??I liked the song and want to play it myself sooo if anyone knows the name of the song please tell me
Hi Trent! I was wondering if you could print a trumpet mouthpiece that is in the shape of a french horn mouthpiece? I want to see if it would work, as I love the sound I get with I use my french horn mouthpiece with my trumpet
Hey Trent, having watched youngsters struggling with holding positions to get the mouthpieces straight on, on instruments a bit too heavy (flugel in particular) or too far to reach round (baritones & Euphoniums), could you try the effect of an off angle (round the corner - 30 or even 45 degrees - rather than chicane) mouthpiece. If it works it might payback more than T-shirts ! Doesn't matter if the sound(sorry, I meant music) is aimed at the floor if the kids can actually look over the music to see the conductor, or around the instrument to see the music, without taking their lips off the mouthpiece!
Hi Adrian, a bend of 30-45 degress would not noticeably alter the sound or capabilities of the mouthpiece as far as learners are concerned. I'm happy to print and send you a couple if you want to try them out. My only concern would be the solidifying of potentially bad habits, although you're better to judge whether a bent mouthpiece would hinder or help the specific cases you're aware of. Get in touch with me on Facebook or via email if you wish to discuss further.
As a trombone player I could see a kind of practical yet not at all practical use for the off centered mouthpiece. For people like me (flute players switching to loe brass) who blow their air down instead of straight, wouldn’t that theoretically make the air go straight since the air would go down anyway in the mouthpiece?
You actually want the air to go down and not straight. It cleans up and focuses your sound in the mid/high range and becomes more important the higher you go. Potentially, upward air can work too I think, but I would never do that since I have a overbite which naturally leads to downward air.
What if you made a deep mouthpiece so deep that it would flatten the tone with a complete semitone? Then you would (kind of) have no tuning issues anymore.
I have to wonder if he had a clue about he design of the mouthpiece beyond the cup. I've had Schilke mouthpieces altered by the factor for a different backbore and it can have a dramatic effect on how a mouthpiece plays. I'm guessing he used the standard backbore he had with the original design and that was probably a problem. Also the fact that he lost range with the uber deep mouthpiece may be more a factor of his ability to play than anything else. If you are used to playing on a standard sized mouthpiece a deeper mouthpiece can impact your range if you are using too much pressure when you normally play. If you have a good range to begin with the deeper cup isn't going to have the impact he had with him. I've rigged a trombone mouthpiece to my trumpet and it didn't impact my range onlt the tone.
I'll admit: just before you started playing, I had a moment of anxiety at the thought that any of the weird designs might actually be a drastic improvement, and we would all have to change all our mouthpieces....
Bullet dodged.
Ha! Lol that would have been crazy "e
Extra extra read all about it off center deep cup square rimmed mouthpieces (yes all 3 at once) is actually the way to go for effortless octave jumps, lip slurs, turns and perfect tone."
Good thing I'm a woodwind player! Crisis averted.
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Being a low brass player, I would love to see a similar experiment with trombone or euphonium mouthpieces.
Don Poenisch tuba
a tuba mouthpiece with 2 shanks to go into 2 different tubas... you might want to 3d print some extra lungs too.
I’m a trombone player, so I would like to see trombone.
I think a tuba mouthpiece that was at a right angle to make the instrument positioned differently
Well yesterday I 3d printed an adaptor that takes a standard cornet mouthpiece in one end and the other end plugs into a baritone lead pipe and allows you to play ridiculously high notes on bari
What would happen when you put a deep mouth piece into a already mellow instrument? Would it cause mass depression due to shear sadness you could make? Maybe. But would it be interesting. Probably not to most people. BUT WE ARE NOT MOST PEOPLE
Super er you could put that deep mouthpiece into a mellophone since the mellophone has the same lead pipe size as a trumpet
Shear sadness is when you get a bad haircut.
You just described a French horn
Mellophone has a very similar bore size, but a deeper cup already. It would probably just sound like a mellophone but a bit worse
That deep cup makes it sound like a cheap euphonium.
Yea I got a cheap Chinese euph and it sounds almost identical if I play in the higher register
Sounds like the tenor sousaphone abomination he had for a while...
Flugelhorn more likely.
Or a flugelhorn with air leaks.
The square sounded pretty nice imo, gave the horn a nicer, mellower tone.
Katisnotaneyeball true
I agree.
Something like the off center one might actually help in marching bands to help with horn angles for trumpet and baritone.
Angled mouthpieces exist already, for that reason specifically. I know a guy who plays one when he plays in a bigband.
Or you can just get stronger…
What if you have the mouthpiece as normal, except that it expands again after the cup, kindof a
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Interesting thought. I'll have to try it!
Please post a video of that
Sweet, I've designed it and will try print it out tonight.
You just changed history.
@@TrentHamilton hey, did you post that yet??
I feel like with the deep mouthpiece, the trumpet solo in “go down gambling” by blood, sweat, and tears would sound AMAZING
Trent - brave attempt, and the square sounds actually surprisingly close to useable - I was expecting them all to have significant issues, but that wasn't too bad at all.
The challenge with mouthpiece design (or modifications, which in many ways are the easiest way of getting to grips with how the different elements interact) is that different parts of the mouthpiece need to balance out with others...
It all basically comes down to intonation patterns - bad mouthpieces will generally either compress the octaves (flat up high and sharp down low) or they'll expand them (sharp up high, flat down low).
This is basically what's wrong with your "very deep" model - it sounds compressed, you could try shortening the length of the backbore... in short - cut off a couple of mm from the end of the shank, then sand down the outside of the shank to restore correct insertion (the diameter at the very tip ought to be measuring somewhere similar to your Bach mouthpiece anyway, right?)
That's interesting, I'd love to see him perfect that model, maybe even do a give-away for the prototypes
Indeed - it's interesting stuff... unfortunately it can be costly to learn (as basically anything you modify becomes almost impossible to sell again, even if it plays well people don't want to buy modified stuff) and it's much easier to get a feel for if you're able to play to a fairly decent standard to begin with.
Can you please do a review of a cheap C trumpet. I'm looking for one and I would love your help!
Vincent Moore look on amazon and eBay bro
Smoke weed Evreyday but the point is he wants a review of one before he buys one.
I've just uploaded a review of a C trumpet to my patreons (who get early access). It'll be released to the public in a few days time.
Trent Hamilton Thank you!
I bought the the large bore one top_eseller sells on ebay and other than it's on the flat side it's better good for being under $300.
You should try taking mouthpiece designs from other brass (like a horn or tuba) and scale them up/down until they fit in a trumpet.
Will your mellophone accept that deep mouthpiece? I bet that would sound a little interesting =P
Vysca no it won’t, not for any reason, mellophone are just assholes. My mellophone won’t accept my cats’ existence, or any tuning
It's been a while but I think mellos do accept trumpet mouthpieces? Although it's better to use an actual mellophone piece. But I'm just a tuba player so idk.
Bob mellophone shanks are indeed the same size as trumpet
@@SpiderPigRS They also sell adapters for French horn mouthpieces, which are actually *smaller!*
3d print a tuba mouthpiece with a trumpet shank, bass trombone with trumpet mouthpiece but the opposite
I can fit a trumpet mouthpiece on my tuba
What about a tuba mouthpiece with a bore size small enough to fit in a trumpet leadpipe
Other way around ;)
Keep experimenting! This is so cool!
Is it just me or does the really deep mouthpiece kind of sound like a saxophone at some points?
First I thought that you have too much time on your hands. Then I thought that being able to tweak cup depth or rim size, etc. could be a revolutionary to design a mouthpiece to suit me individually.
I would say try the one that's deep on a bigger instrument like a baritone
I feel like someone could do some very interesting stuff with that extremely deep mouthpiece.
Perhaps something jazzy? Not sure.
yes, but perhaps not as deep. was thinking about flugel and some other alto-pitched horns
The deep cup sounds jazzy and I like it. Can you give me the cad file? My local mall has a 3D print shop last I checked
I 3d printed a trombone to french horn mouthpeice adapter for my son who plays "the horn". The adapter also corrects for what I consider a design defect of french horn, that is requiring you to stick your hand in the bell to not play sharp.
The big cup reminds me of a megatone mouthpiece at first glance. Granted, I don't know what megatone is supposed to accomplish, I've only seen them be used in a school setting by someone who wanted to play really low and really loud.
With the mellow tone from the 3D print, with some design improvements it could be interesting for someone playing a 3rd part or try plugging it into a flugelhorn.
The megatone mouthpieces aren't necessarily very deep, they just have a lot more mass to them.
Bob megatones have the same cup size as the normal trumpet, they are just a different design and do not lower the pitch.
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Trent Hamilton thanks. Never saw the inside of one so I thought they were deep
Trent, I currently use a 1G Bach mouthpiece in my bass trombone. I like it because it has such a large deep cup size.
A friend gave me a tuba mouthpiece to try, one he'd turned down the shank in the lathe to fit smaller size (eg large bore trombone).
The sound was very dead compared to a normal trombone mouthpiece.
The "very deep cup" you tried in this video sounded to me to be (almost) muted. Given the problems of register etc, I wonder if you made it just not quite so deep if it would sound better and/or be easier to blow.
So putting the two concepts together; I think the tuba mouthpiece was too heavy and too big (diameter) for the trombone. However, I wonder if one was made to bass trombone diameter but as deep or slightly deeper than a tuba mouthpiece, what would it be like for sound and for playing.
Now, on the other mouthpieces:
Square; did you try playing it turned 45 degrees (so that it "faced" you as diamond shaped).
The Offset; sometimes, especially on a tuba, there is need for a "bent" leadpipe to bring the mouthpiece further around the bell for playing. But how about if the mouthpiece was already "bent" rather than just offset?
what about the double trumpet mouthpiece you teased us with?
I'm currently testing other designs of it to see whether I can improve the result
oh nice. do you have an estimated time for that?
Not really. The first results weren't great, but that might have been because I ended up using a pocket trumpet & a trumpet together to test, as I couldn't fit two normal trumpets in together.
oh no . i hope you can make it so 2 trumpets fit well. im really curious about how it would sound. legit exited for that upload.
With the offcentre one. Doesn't it mess with the up/down stream of the embouchure? Try some standard lip exercises with it.
print out a billet trumpet that externally is a solid rectangular block ! (no external tubes)
The square mouthpiece is used to blow square notes
you can do a deep V cup to get a nicer sound and less tuning problems, as long as it's not that deep. but like a Bach 5V. I've also designed a mouthpiece based on a shilke 28 horn mouthpiece that's been extended to but my Con 16E mellophonium back in the key of F (mine was in F#)
I can see a music store instead of stocking a lot of expensive mouthpieces keeping a library of cad files and being able to supply whatever a customer wants. Probably comparable prices and profit.
The deeper mouthpiece kinda sounds like the trumpet has a mute in it? Also, I know you won’t see this but would you be willing to do something lime this but with a baritone/trombone size?
Did you try the square mouthpiece with the top and bottom parallel to your teeth line or did you try it with the teeth line going through the corners of the mouthpiece (as if playing a diamond)?
The piece you played to test these: Herbert L. Clarke? Very interesting vid; thanks.
The extremely deep-rimmed mouthpiece makes the trumpet sounding like a mute cornett...
Perhaps make a mold of your embouchure and design a mouthpiece to fit it? Or even easier, grind out an existing mouthpiece gradually to fit it. You can fill it back with epoxy glue.
Keep doing this my friend ! Great job! Congrats from Brazil
What program did you use to design those mouthpieces? I’ve thought about doing some experiments myself.
This reminds me of something I saw about 40 years ago. It was a set of mouthpieces called 'The Doublers Mouthpiece'. In the box were 'French horn', 'trombone', and 'tuba' mouthpieces. Each was basically the shape and depth you'd expect, but the rims were all identical and the size of a trumpet mouthpiece. So the 'Tuba' mp was close to your 'very, very deep' mp... actually it was probably deeper. As a young know-it-all man I thought it was stupid and passed on purchase. I should have bought them. At worst, a collectors item.
The deep one gives it a weird jazzy feel
Like
If you tried playing blues on it, it would sound great
You know what would be fun? It's a trumpet that uses a bigger mouthpiece but still fits in the horn. Like sticking a trombone mouthpiece into it but it works and it's not like terrible
How much smoothing have you done on the mouthpieces? Sanding/acetone smoothing?
I could see a use for specialty mouthpieces e.g. if you’ve got a tooth damage. Or might an oval mouthpiece be more comfortable for long concerts? Maybe shape the rim but keep the inner dimensions?
I dont know about trumpet mouthpiece's but on the tuba the deeper the cup the more air/preasure you have to add, but it helps tubas get another low range octive
In my experience it’s quite similar on trumpet mouthpieces. On a deeper mouthpiece it allows for more air to pass through and you gain access to a massive low register, albeit at the cost of some endurance. I play on a massive Denis Wick 2 cornet mouthpiece and it is what gives me the best low range.
The deep mouthpiece makes the high register sound bad, but the low register sounds really nice, kind of flugelhorn/french horn like.
Wick actually makes (French) horn mouthpieces like that second one. They look like a Bach Megatone, but the cup actually IS that deep.
They're not my favorite.
I did not expect to hear Spain without asking for it thank you
the square sounds good!
Trent have you been practicing your trumpet chops? 3d printed mouthpiece or not, you sound great! I can tell you've been hitting the shed
The deep one kind of reminds me of playing a trumpet with a French horn mouthpiece.
The other variable with the too deep mpc is lower mass. How about wrapping it with lead wire to increase the mass ?
The offset one reminds me of a toilet . . . i want one!
I am wondering if a deeper NORMAL Mouthpiece would allow for a more air ish sounding tone? the "deep mouthpiece" seems to provide a bit of this.
could you explain how that tone is achieved?
You should try to make a less extreme deep mouthpiece, giving a little more ease of use but still a comparable shift in tone
Can you test a deeper mouthpiece, like this one, on a flugelhorn?
I wonder what would happpen if the 3D prints were used to make molds and cast mouthpiece's from diffrent metals like, brass, copper or steel?
You might have a word with your designer on the Spreadshirt merch. The Tuba takes up a reasonable span of space on the various printed items, but the Trumpet and Trombone seem to disappear into the background because they're so small.
I printed a trombone mouthpiece that fit in a French horn and it is very good
How about making it wider as well as deeper? I own a Schenke 24 mouthpiece--I;m told it's one of the largest out there--for my alto trumpet.
Hi there Trent, could you try the deep cup mouthpiece with a flugelhorn or a cornet ? Yes you may need to reprint another one because of the backbore size. Oh well you already know that.
Chur Bro !!
I was hoping one would have a bulbous bubble below the rim, a bit like the profile of a thistle. :-)
Orange juice sounded almost exactly like a flugel when you started out, before it got higher.
you should try selling the deep cut mouthpiece. it has such a unique sound, it's almost saxophone like or euphonium like. i know i would buy it myself. also you should try making an asymmetric mouthpiece
This is great! Could you please do more videos like this?
What was the first example you played with only the deep cup mouthpiece called?
Sweet sound
If it were made out of brass I think it would be better and in my opinion it makes it sound naturally jazzy
Bro his tone is so full and bright
Hi trent! What are you playing around 05:37? Thanks!
Matteo Selvaggio I believe he is playing concierto de aranjuez from brassed off
I’m attempting bluebells for competition as a freshman. Any advice/suggestions?
I could see the Deep Mouthpiece Being Redesigned into a Real mouthpiece because of its mellow Sound
Is there a place I can find that 3rd mouthpiece file? I want to print one as a gag
The square mouthpiece produces square waves
How about a trumpet-style mouthpiece that will fit the Frumpet?
Perhaps it’s time for the flatulence powered 3-d printed .. what shall we call it.. derrière piece? Of course the required tubing would flatten the instrument tremendously requiring you to hammer the tunning slides in well past the limits.
I would like to see something similar to the Wycliffe Gordon mouthpiece for trombone-to-trumpet...
Try a mouthpiece with an interior spiral or cyclone which may increase the flow rate.
Interesting experiments! With CAD and 3-D printing, we are no longer restricted to solids of revolution -- as you have shown. How about returning to the traditional design, but make it wider one way than the other, so its rim is roughly elliptical? Perhaps the best width and best length are not equal.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_of_revolution
my boi playin aranjeuz
I can’t help but feel that the deep cup mouthpiece would work better on a Mellophone or a flugelhorn
Hey Trent, Great idea. Could you share with us the hardware/software you are using to design and print these mouthpieces??
Have you tried the deep cup on a mellophone yet? I feel like it would fit a bit better for the instrument, even though it’s still ridiculously deep
Unfortunately I no longer have the mellophone.
Here bc of the 3d printing. I'm curious how else musicians use 3d printers... can anyone contact me and tell me how they have used it?
I don't think there's a huge scope for it with brass instruments, but in other instruments potentially. What size bed do you have on yours? I'd love to print a full "brass" instrument with a 3d printer, but mine is too small, unfortunately.
I can print 10x10 inches. Most items can be broken up into smaller items and assembled.
There are some 3d printed trumpets and at least one trombone, all with little success. I've only found one that sounds remotely good but it's just a bugle ruclips.net/video/edo-HsMKzas/видео.html
I've heard of some college kid trying to print a baritone horn but that sounds like an ambitious project.
There is some use for it in the academic study of early woodwinds.
There isn’t all that much for the mass market, but there have been very important historical reproductions like an original Adolphe Sax mouthpiece reproduction.
3D printing is incredibly useful with historical woodwinds in the fact it can easily create very specific tapers and poly-cylindrical bores.
GeoDroidJohn School. For my Trombone mouthpiece.
The second one is for those who want to know how they will sound once they get old. I mean it's literally for when you're in the bottom of the well
Whats the name of the song played with the last mouthpiece the really deep mouthpiece??I liked the song and want to play it myself sooo if anyone knows the name of the song please tell me
Concierto de Aranjuez by Joaquín Rodrigo.
That deep-cup mouthpiece almost makes it sound muted by a harmon w/o stem
Hi Trent! I was wondering if you could print a trumpet mouthpiece that is in the shape of a french horn mouthpiece? I want to see if it would work, as I love the sound I get with I use my french horn mouthpiece with my trumpet
Yes, absolutely possible. Send me an email or message me on Facebook.
try the cup mouthpiece in a flugelhorn, see if that makes a difference
Hey, do you have the files for the deeper mouthpiece?
spain is such a cool piece
Hey Trent, having watched youngsters struggling with holding positions to get the mouthpieces straight on, on instruments a bit too heavy (flugel in particular) or too far to reach round (baritones & Euphoniums), could you try the effect of an off angle (round the corner - 30 or even 45 degrees - rather than chicane) mouthpiece.
If it works it might payback more than T-shirts !
Doesn't matter if the sound(sorry, I meant music) is aimed at the floor if the kids can actually look over the music to see the conductor, or around the instrument to see the music, without taking their lips off the mouthpiece!
Hi Adrian, a bend of 30-45 degress would not noticeably alter the sound or capabilities of the mouthpiece as far as learners are concerned. I'm happy to print and send you a couple if you want to try them out. My only concern would be the solidifying of potentially bad habits, although you're better to judge whether a bent mouthpiece would hinder or help the specific cases you're aware of. Get in touch with me on Facebook or via email if you wish to discuss further.
*Makes a Megatone mouthpiece*
As a trombone player I could see a kind of practical yet not at all practical use for the off centered mouthpiece. For people like me (flute players switching to loe brass) who blow their air down instead of straight, wouldn’t that theoretically make the air go straight since the air would go down anyway in the mouthpiece?
Seems more of a crutch than anything else
You actually want the air to go down and not straight. It cleans up and focuses your sound in the mid/high range and becomes more important the higher you go. Potentially, upward air can work too I think, but I would never do that since I have a overbite which naturally leads to downward air.
Even if you want to play more straight on, which you do in the low range, I bet that mouthpiece would hurt more than help.
What is your 3D printer setup?
I feel like you could alter the deep one to make it more ridiculous. Maybe make it so deep that the cup stops at the receptor
What Trombone do you recommend? Tenor or Bass?
Jadeygaming BASS
I like the deep one!!!! It's weird! Maybe not that deep could work better
I'd buy a French horn shirt
Same
what about the double-shanked mouthpiece You showed in a text post?
Could anyone leave he name of the origin for the excerpt Trent used for the mouthpiece tests?
What if you made a deep mouthpiece so deep that it would flatten the tone with a complete semitone? Then you would (kind of) have no tuning issues anymore.
Cool, now on the trombones!
I have to wonder if he had a clue about he design of the mouthpiece beyond the cup. I've had Schilke mouthpieces altered by the factor for a different backbore and it can have a dramatic effect on how a mouthpiece plays. I'm guessing he used the standard backbore he had with the original design and that was probably a problem.
Also the fact that he lost range with the uber deep mouthpiece may be more a factor of his ability to play than anything else. If you are used to playing on a standard sized mouthpiece a deeper mouthpiece can impact your range if you are using too much pressure when you normally play. If you have a good range to begin with the deeper cup isn't going to have the impact he had with him. I've rigged a trombone mouthpiece to my trumpet and it didn't impact my range onlt the tone.