Drilled And Slotted Rotors! Are They Worth It?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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Legend has it, he can still be heard explaining how rotors heat up and lose stopping power.
Really just wear out faster. Tires and clean fluid are more important for performance than any rotor.
On them big 35ss
@@jdigitalseven7 Uhm no - not actually
The drilled/slotted usually slip cleaner, but it's highly recommended you clean new rotors thoroughly (brake cleaner, then soap and water) to remove machining debris and oils. And of course, USE JACK STANDS!
As everyone else said, Jackstands! There are a lot of kids who watch this and they will follow your lead..
Greg Olson Good point! Yes safety is important and we will be sure to get jack stands. Hopefully they read the comments and take some advice from you guys also.
dont worry hes got a goonzquad hat, he’s immortal
Jackstands are definitely important but at least they weren't beneath a low import while the car is on jackstands.
I was thinking the same as well til I realized they never got underneath the Jeep so I didn't think it was a big deal :P
Hi, I too in my channel I take these videos, soon I will do this work on my car;)
Sounds like what I tell me dad all the damn time. They are sitting just on the other side of the garage 🤷♂️
Any motorcyclist who has ridden with basic rotors vs. those which are drilled and slotted can tell you the difference on braking while wet. However, drilled and slotted rotors will not greatly improve braking performance if there is insufficient time for the limited additional cooling effect to lower temperatures. Once the rotors are glowing from excess heat the only remedy is to avoid using the brakes until they cool down.
just a little tip I’m sure you guys know. Try not to let the caliper hang it can ruin brake lines even though you have those hefty ones on the front.
Here's a tip, before you take the calipers off take a pry bar and pry in between the pad and rotor to compress the pistons that way you dont have to use a clamp, lol it will same a lot of time
You need a big brake kit for them tires. Also thanks for showing love to the Mexican. Says a lot in these times we are in.
Safety guys!! don't start to work on the front of your Jeep with just the lop-sided trolley jack holding it up!! put it on jack/axle stands first before starting to work!
I just installed StopTech's Sport Select Slotted and Drilled Rotors and pads that came with them just in the front on my WRX and the stopping power is a lot better, installed myself. Only $177 for the front kit. I've been installing parts myself for about 4 months now because it was just too expensive to do what I want at a shop and I've installed a lot of parts, mostly suspension and it's really not that difficult. Anyone out there looking to save some money, consider watching a video on how to install something and decide within your ability or not. For suspension, it usually will be.
Right there with you … 3 months installing my own parts for the first time in my life at age 29. Long overdue
@@SaintChicagoJay feels good knowing you got it done and saving yourself some money huh!! I’ve bin watching, helping, and wrenching since I was a lil boy. Now at 31 I pretty much do it all I even got into going in on motorcycles.
Seriously...i went to the shop and they were quoting $1200 for front and rear brakes and rotors... when i bought front and rear brakes and rotors on my own for $360. I saved $840 for opting to get the parts on my own and do thr job myself!
Nice jeep. Agree with the Jack stand comments as well as chocking those wheels. I would be careful using your air impact wrench to completely tighten those lug nuts. You will over torque them. Better off final tightening to torque spec by hand with a torque wrench.
Blank rotors have more metal and therefore can handle more heat. Blanks also have more surface area and brake better because more pad surface is on the rotor.
Man....I am thinking about get some of these so I just on the old "You find it Tube" and low and behold I see the family....... Goonzquad boys!!!!! Man Thomas was soooo small. #humblebeginning
Carbon ceramic pads will resist heat more. I use them on my cars. They hold up really well in the canyons especially, no brake fade due to heat.
Dokk Tekk yeah but they take a decent amount of hard braking to get up to an optimal temperature for any benefit. If you’re just driving on the street there really isn’t a point. Plus they are much more expensive than the other types.
come on guys! safety! use them jackstands! I'm trying the powerstop kit for my dad's expedition....hope they improve!
Giacomo Battilana Ferla Yea safety is important! Mainly if your going to be crawling under the rig. We’ll be sure to be safer next time. Hope you get that excellent stopping power
Also shouldn't let the calipers hang on the hose!
My beagles name was the name "buddy" also I see your German shepherd is named buddy. Had to put him too sleep yesterday 😢 he rode with me on the truck over the road. He was a good boy y'all give buddy a hug for me and Thomas ok thanks for the videos guys
chad harmon Im sorry to hear that man. Respect for Buddy 👊🏽
chad harmon Sorry to hear that! I’ll be sure to give buddy a big ole hug for you!
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Nice! If they hold up on a jeep that size the ones i ordered for my hatch back small car will do fine.
Crazy I found a OG goonzsquad video 😅
Jack stands and don't let the caliper hang from the line and be pulling those lines either.
Always check brake fluid level in reservoir also, and follow manufacturer's procedures for new rotors.
I'd feel a lot more comfortable if you had a couple more jacks under that axle....
Talez From the DashCam that’s true but since we we’re crawling under it, should be fine. More safety coming soon
A couple more? He didnt have any. Just a jack. He needs a couple before he get a couple more
Safety last, I guess!
@Dino Ververis look at there channel now. I don't think there afraid to get their hands dirty. You spoke to soon.
@@goonzquadbro your dog was sitting under it ….
Put some jack stands under there, kinda sketch
Or at the very least, lay the wheels on their inside surfaces under the frame rails. Better to loose an expensive, oversized rim than to have a 1,500 lb wheel hub land on your balls.
he has gloves, it's safe bro
there kids.
Right I was thinking the same thing I've had Jack's fail before
Great video thanks for sharing if I may add I've had Jack's fail on their own before nice brand new ones really dangerous to go under a car and do anything with just the Jack holding it it could slip out and so on jack stands or something else to support the vehicle with the jack, I know you didn't ask for opinions but since this is a public RUclips video I thought to add on with y'all ready skill and knowledge
respect, you guys reminded me of my group back in the 90s and you got yourself another sub. A++++++
You Guys built a very nice looking jeeps very Detailed👍
Drilled rotors have a design flaw, they are known to crack under pressure. The same can be said for nearly any type of rotor but the drilling process causes a few fundamental issues, most notable micro fractures in the rotors (which has been improved by better manufacturing and improvements in the drilling process) but this is a all to common issue with no name brands. Another issue is rotors expand and contract slightly once in use, this is very minor in day to day usage but over time it does add up (especially if the rotors are cheap and the drilling was poor) this encourages them the crack along the drill marks.
You can find photos all over the net of rotors that came to this type of demise it's a common issue with cheaper rotors, slotting was the solution to this as it allowed for the rotors to cool without the risk of cheaper rotors having the same faults of cheaper drilled rotors. You may think drilling isn't a issue but it's highly recommended to avoid them in towing applications and racing (the same type of stuff they where designed to benefit by improved cooling). Slotted tho are far more stable and while not perfect either (less contact area along with eating pads quicker) they are a more viable solution. You wanna try and avoid these types of rotors tho if you plan to use ceramic pads ... idk they are always bundled but slotting and drilling do effectively cool a rotor but ceramic pads work best hot (a good bit warmer than normal pads) so the extra cooling will effect their braking performance.
If you ever watch a race and you see glowing red rotors it's because they are using ceramic pads, they produce more heat and benefit from it but by using slotting/drilled rotors with ceramic pads you effectively defeat the advantage of both (better cooling, and better braking when hot).
Well stated. Thanks
Y’all put a lot of faith in that jack to not put any jack stands!
he did not read the fine prints on the jack....
Right
I have tried the drilled and slotted and you have to clean them out - those holes get gunked up with brake dust and no more hole/ventilation/cooling. Also watch out if you get a pebble in those holes it will chew up the pads. The best way to increase stopping power is probably just getting better/bigger calipers and pads/rotors. What do you think? I read the directions on how to break in new brakes and I'm pretty sure that it is breaking from 40ish down to 5-10 without stopping and repeat a bunch of times. You may look like a crazy person and annoy anyone driving behind you but the brakes will be good to go lol!
The ACDelco Drilled & Slotted rotors as installed on the famous 95 MERC are marked "L" and "R" because they ARE directional, which means that the slots wipe the pads properly, which does not allow the slots to clog up.
My ACDelco Drilled & Slotted Rotors have been in service for nearly eight (8) years, with no clogging of the slots or the holes.
These rotors work best with the Motorcraft Severe Service Brake Pads.
www.mercuryforum.com/forum/grand-marquis-14/1995-grand-marquis-restoration-8937/
Should always clean new rotors off with brake clean, bc they are shipped with a protective oil coating to prevent rusting during delivery and can mess up the new pads
I like these old style goonzquad videos
You’re not suppose to come to a complete stop when breaking the rotor in. Go up to 30-40mph brake moderate down to 5-10mph then back up to 30-40mph and repeat
Glad to see you helping fellow Jeepers out! Good Video!
always degrease those before using because they are usually coated with a thin coat of oil for protection!
I enjoy watching your videos. Keeping it real with the community and doing positive things. You guys are gonna make it to the big leagues. keep it up! lets see another truck in the future
Drilled & Slotted Rotors should be marked with "L" for left, and "R" for right side positioning.
My ACDelco rotors were marked -- with no chance to get 'em on the wrong side.
No. Just no. They are not directional. Unless specifically marked as directional, slots do not matter what direction they face
@@abc1099 My rotors are high-performance rotors made especially for severe service on POLICE interceptors. They were marked "L" and "R" at the ACDelco manufacturing facility.
These rotors ARE DIRECTIONAL, and the direction of rotation DOES matter.
Yes, there are several brands of rotors which claim to be non-directional, but tthe FACT is that the slots ARE directional, and it DOES matter the direction of wheel rotation -- it effects the dissipation of the gasses from the brake pads.
Your notion that ALL drilled & slotted rotors are non-directional is blatantly incorrect.
www.mercuryforum.com/forum/grand-marquis-14/1995-grand-marquis-restoration-8937/
I just did the same thing on my 2013 JK (might even be the exact same set), and they have been noticeably better. I upgraded the lines and all new fluid, and it stops like a champ.
Hot tip, if you have an older vehicle or they salt the roads in winter where you live, make sure you clean your hubs before you swap the new rotors on. Even a millimeter of rust or debris can cause uneven wear on your new rotors and deform your pads because of uneven contact. Can even cause warping if it's really bad. Drill with a wire brush and a healthy amount of brake cleaner until it's clean all around, a thin layer of high heat anti sieze never hurt anybody neither.not an issue on a newer vehicle like this, but good to remember as she ages.
I tried them on my TJ. They offered no more stopping power over stock and the pads wore out quicker.
Great vids guys, but please oh please if your under a vehicle put jack stands while you work.
Is anyone gonna talk about that squirrel in the wheel lmao.
I'm just glad your jack held up...no pun intended...
My fav build yet
These slotted and drilled rotors are shipped to auto parts store aka (white box rotors) in turn performance wise the slotted and drilled are excellent on cars smooth rotors are better for truck application also slots and those drill holes will fill with brake dust and cause rust build up causing rotors to eventually crack
Hey bro, from Cali. I like the fact that you guys kept it true with where you’re from! I believe more people need to take pride in that shit! Because people out here, don’t respect people who simply try to adapt to us! Be real
Very nice upgrade!
We have a saying:
What you can't brake, you can't argue about..
it's a straight translation but you get the point.. 😁
Also, I absolutely love your new helper Thomas 😊
how do 20 something year old kids afford such nice rides that took me my whole life to buy
Wait til you see their recent videos and the fleet they got now!
When the vehicle falls on your arm or leg and the bone comes out through the skin, then you'll remember.
Wow! You two have come a long ways since this build!
I was thinking about putting some on my chrysler 300. I ride with 22s so it should be a nice change! Thanks for the vid fellas! God bless you!!
No jack stands, letting the calipers hang by the brake lines... Kids!
The holes and slots are great for storing rocks and mud !!👍
you guys are my favorite channel very in depth with you're projects!
Just love watching your videos guy, great job. Salut from Romania.
Goonzquad at it again in the early vids....just upgraded to drill and slotted myself and the upgrade is 100% worth the money
My boys always making great content getting recognized by people out in public that's awesome there is no limit with you guys keep going
With experience with customers cars, I work on the slots of the rotors pack in with brake dust and prematurely wear out the pads. Also you guys should look into the WJ grand cherokee 2 piston caliper swap you swap the knuckles hub and uses a WJ rotor and just back drill the WJ rotor against the D30 TJ XJ MX rotor
Thanks for making this video can't wait to get my own set
Going through life with my Jeep. Nothing better.
I just ordered some of those slotted-drilled rotors for my Ford Windstar Beast, lol. But seriously, anything is an upgrade for a Windstar.
Dope another updated to the blue Jeep 👍👌👌👌
Awesome video guys! I didn't know you had a rear disc brake conversion on the Rubi. She's looking good!
Them dang big ole 35s
Good luck with cracking
Remember to stay humble when you guys hit 1 Mil
Nothing like chunking up the grunt yeeehawww dog
slotted and drilled feels right
It also creates a gas that forms between the rotor and pads.
Detroit axles set from Amazon right? Just had mines installed and I love em!!07 jgc laredo 3.7 sick rig brah!
I love this channel I look for your video posts everyday
Holy mall crawler Batman!!
What about sanding down the wheel hub to get rid of that rust? Wouldn't that cause brake pulsation if you do not do it?
Cross-drilled brake disks are a hangover from the days when pads were made from inferior materials 30+ years ago when the old pads heated up gases would be emitted from the pads causing brake performance degradation so hole where drill in the disks to dissipate the gases. With modern materials this no longer necessary cross drilled disk are probably less effective than sold one because of slightly less surface area.
I need those
Another Great Video From Goonzquad
In the rust belt those rotor rust after on season....better rotors will have a black or grey z clad ecoat on them
Honestly would have loved some before and after testing
The slotted and drilled rotors also have a tendency for cracking due to loss of integrity
Love the video and the light bars will b sick
Love your show, please think safety first just to be on the safe side. Some jack stands and throw them tires under the car for added security.
loving the videos guys, keep it up!
I see a lot of comments on jackstands for safety - safety is great, but so is not having to deal with any of the aftermath of my car dropping to the floor.
Even if I am not crawling under it, jackstands every time. I can't imagine what sort of a headache it would be for a jack to fail and the car fall onto the ground.
New hats are 🔥
great content as always buds 💪🏼
In my opinion Yes it's worth it. They don't warp like the solid rotors do.
Awesome videos guys! Keep up the good work.
Discount tire doesn't use jack stands for rims and tires; get off their backs just don't get under it.
On those rotors direction of slots and holes doesn’t matter. It’s the direction of the vein in between the rotor. In your case the veins are straight up and down so it doesn’t matter direction of slots and holes. Vein direction is different with different manufacturers and applications.
What happens if that jack rolls or fails and you're under the Jeep? You guys are crazy. Please use jackstands! Keep up the nice vids tho
Bruh, the "weering" sound is the tire tread lol
Only use slotted. The dis will cra k between the holes. The slots are there to have a place form the gasses to go when you are braking hard.
Probably clamping force and pad material are the most important
You guys make it look so easy I wish I could change my brake pads on my car I’m scare I might mess something up
hell yeah, they are worth it! great vid..
Y'all are m favorite youtubers
I would suggest putting a link in the description of what rotors and pads you went with. It's fun to geek out on that stuff.
Great video!
yes, they are worth it! will take a couple days of driving around to fully break them in...….
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Installing larger caliper wouldn't help much with stoping what it could do make the front lock up which in a corner can cause snap over steer what would help is stopping is haven larger rotor for example going from a rotor that has a 11in diameter to a 12in diameter or larger rotor
Love your video's bro's keep it up
4 door Rubicon would be sweeet.
Great new build!
don't forget guys the ceramic pads along with the new rotors will make a huge difference
Good explanation bros🏎
Back when Thomas was just a kitten. Happy 2020 Quarantine
i know this was awhile ago but never ever let your brake calipers hang like that, your damaging your brake line like that and it’s gonna cause you to buy new ones due to that weight.