How the Ruthenians defended against the Mongols - Medieval DOCUMENTARY
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Proto Ukranians??? Really??? That's a thing??? Cos I thought at that time they called themselves Russians and were part of the Kievan Rus.XD
In fact, didn't the defeat to the Mongols happen under the Rurik dynasty whose last known descendant/ruler was Feodor I of RUSSIA aka Fyodor I Ivanovich, a RUSSIAN czar during the 16th century???
You advertise yourself as a channel presenting historical accounts of significant military events...
You're a joke and a blatant propagandist, shame on you. Unsubscribed.
Northern Estonia was under Danish rule, not Swedish rule.
Also parts of Estonia weren't under Novgorod rule back then.
FINLAY THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY ! STILL , WE LITWINS (GDL) who destroyed ulus of juchi
"How did the Ruthenians defend against the Mongols?" "They didn't....." *loony toon ending theme music*
Why fight when the option of going with the flow lets them rule and survive? It is always wise to know where and when to fight
Hey, Vladimir tried.
They just failed, very, very, hard.
Ivan Franko, great ukrainian writer, wrote a novel Zakhar Berkut exactly about these events. Translated into English by Theodosia Boresky.
Highly recommended!
Excellent recommendation: beautifully written and translated. Thank you for the title and author.
Recently new version of Zakhar Berkout was made by Hollywood. This is second movie based on Ivan Franko novel.
Did Franko knew that hes ukrainian?
@@kaissertsarist He was literally a member of an organization which was promoting Ukrainian language
Pope: "If you convert to Catholicism, we'll provide you with support in the upcoming fight with the Mongols."
Danylo: "I don't like it, but I need all the help I can get."
Pope: "Oh, actually we can't provide you with anything right now but we'll give you this shiny new crow."
Danylo: "...I'm converting back to Orthodoxy."
Pope: "What?! You can't do that! We demand you convert back to Catholicism immediately!"
Danylo: "What're you going to do? Have that army you promised to help fight the Mongols but all of a sudden can't muster come and attack me instead? Oh wait."
I don’t think anyone was describing the people of that area as proto Ukrainians haha
when did the italians originate?
@@forrix6294 when did the italians originate?
@@forrix6294 I wonder if you are a hypocrite or a fool
I don't get this comment. That Ruthenians are a large part of Ukrainian ethnos is not disputed.
@@forrix6294 That would be your interpretation and that only. He’s been pretty objective with The Ukraine conflict considering what Russia has done and is still doing to their country. As they say go cope
Congratulations on 3 million subscribers! You are by far my favorite history channel. Keep up the great work.
OGs will remember when the video was called how Proto Ukrainians defended against the mongols
and not proto-Ukrainians? then who
@@Kwerd Rus or Ruthenians
@@anarquia201 and who now lives on the territory of the Rus' kingdom and Rus'?
@@Kwerd i suppose that makes the turks the true heirs of rome and Alexander
@@anarquia201 Ukrainians like Turks came to someone's land, or were they still natives?
Proto-Ukrainians? Please tell me that's for the algorithm.
:/
Who cares?
@@jcheck1107 History nerds and pro-Russian mouthbreathers really, really care lol. I can see the argument for both. People think it's "pandering".
kinda funny cos "Fulminatus" here has directly *rewarded* the use of "proto-ukrainians" in the algorithm by even caring enough to comment, cos a comment is engagement
@@AdamOwenBrowning IT IS PANDERING. it is obvious, the Rus were people from Novgorod, Moscow, Ryazan, Kiev and many others and like Italy divided in numerous polities but Undeboutly similar even if later they developed a separate identity
for sure, but clickbait is hardly a new thing.
Welp, we have another set of royal brothers, civil war time!
Romanovich brothers: We don't do that here.
Thank you for this high-quality content, and the high-quality subtitles for us non-English speakers!
The proto-Ukrainians called themselves Rus'
The fact that they completely chose to ignore the obvious makes this video comparable to satire, can't take it serious.. "Proto-Ukrainian" 😭😂
@@Streetslogic what does it manifest itself in?
In case anyone doesn’t know, the name in the title was called “Proto-Ukrainians”; they changed it to “Ruthenians”
Did yall watch the video? He calls them Rus the entire time.
@@MercShame He’s talking about the title before K&G changed it.
8:14 You failed to admit that you said in several videos that the Mongols abandoned the campaign in the west because of Ogedei's death. You said the same thing with Möngke's death.
Yeah, I really recommend you listen to Dan Carlin’s Wrath of the Khans. Some great stories in there that will help string alot of the mongol timeline together. Cheers!
Why is it proto Ukraine instead of Rus lol
He's getting a check from Ukraine government
Because russians are the descendens of the mongols who destroy The real Rusia they became white by mixing with The real russians,The ukrainians.
No coments
Because Russia is toxic and a joke. Zelensky kicking butt and making the world laugh at Putin in his bunker deep under the Kremlin
But its true.
@@sircatangry5864 it is partly true but we can’t start replacing historical names just because we feel the need to claim other’s achievements. Historical informations must be told by how it was, not how we like it to be by manipulating it.
The oldest recorded mention of the word ukraina dates to the year 1187. In connection with the death of Volodymyr Hlibovych, the ruler of the Principality of Pereyaslavl which was Kyiv's southern shield against the Wild Fields, the Hypatian Codex says "Oukraina groaned for him", ѡ нем же Оукраина много постона (o nem že Oukraina mnogo postona).
В «Сказании ο Довмонте» 3-й Псковской летописи 1271 года говорится о сёлах псковской «ѹкраины»
@@harleyquinn8202 Псков це земля України. Скоро всі наші історичні землі будуть деокуповані.
@@harleyquinn8202 как ты считаешь, Москва украинный город?
@@Truspio is not known for certain, there are many versions
@@Kwerd Возможно когда Москва была на окраине Руси. В то время да.
Anyone who has played Total War Medieval 1 knows that the Ukrainians/Rus should have built the biggest fortresses possible in Volga-Bulgaria and the Chimera and filled it with a ton of Halberdiers with gold armour and gold weaponry (but not enough to be starved out in a few turns). If they did this the Mongols would have all stood in archery range of the walls and sent units one by one to hit the gates with swords whilst standing under pouring boiling oil until the swords eventually made the portcullis suddenly disappear. Then they would be all killed in turn by the Halberdiers. Just talking from personal experience.
In terms of content this is a great video. 👍 This period in this region of Europe is rarely explored in English-speaking world. But I think using the term Ukrainians is a little anachronistic here. It would also be really interesting to see you covering the struggle for Halych-Volhynia region between Poles, Lithuanians and Hungarians in 14th century and a kind of 'westernization' of the region in subsequent centuries because of Polish influence in Ruthenia. 🦁💙
and why anachronistic?
@@massive1979 like it or not, the concept of "nation" originated with the french revolution. Italians appeared in the 19th century, and it doesn't matter that earlier people were called Genoese, Milanese, and had the same religion, culture, tradition, language
@@Kwerd We don't call the Holy Roman Empire Germany either. It just wasn' t that nation yet.
@@massive1979 What did you mean by "existing as a nation"? Then who were those people living in Ruthenia? They were not ethical Poles, not ethical Lithuanians, not ethical Hungarians, they had their own language and culture, their own state and kings (who's sons married daughters of Hungarian kings). Then who exactly were they? Some aliens? As it is told in the video, the title Ruthenia was only a title of the region - not some ethnical group.
@@michimatsch5862 Which would be why calling the inhabitants of the HRE proto-Germans is accurate. They had always been called Germanic, but Germany, the state, no it didn't exist until the Franco-Prussian war came to a close and all the Germanic nations unified into one empire.
Its like calling the english settlers in the new world proto-american, or proto-canadians.
and why is your comparison correct?
@@Kwerd because in both cases you are defining people in the past not by what they were, but by what they would be in the future
@@thadsul and what are the changes, except for the name?
@@Kwerd if you think there are no changes, only in name, then why do you question the comparison made initially?
@@Kwerd I will tell you why: because nationalistic views of History are illogical. Modern cultures are a continuation of past ones, but never identical. We, modern people, are not the same as out ancestors
What is proto-ukrainia? You mean Kievan Rus...
There was no Kyivan Rus, this name was created in 19th century.
If you will read chronicles deeply you will see that the word “Rus” was mostly used like ethnonym but not like territory.
Mostly by the word “Rus” people mean orthodox people.
There was also term “роусьска земля” that means territory of over Dnipro lands, Volyn, Kyiv, Chernihiv, Pereyaslav and Smolensk.
Also you will see that people wrote: “I am going from Novhorod to Rus” or “I am going from Suzdal to Rus”
Kievan rus=proto ukraine,because russians are the descendens of the mongols who destroy The real Rusia they became white by mixing with The real russians,The ukrainians.
NO COMENTS
@@high4702 Smolensk was also not Rus'. "Izѧslavъ da darъі Rostyslavou что 7 ѿ Rouskъіy 8 zemlѣ and ѿ all ц҃рских 9 zemlѣ. and 10 Rostyslavъ da darъі Izѧslavou что ѿ верхнихъ 11 zemlѣ. ѿ Varѧъ ." Chronicle for the year 1148. Translation: "Izyaslav gave gifts to Rostislav from the Rus' land and from all the imperial lands, and Rostislav gave gifts to Izyaslav from the upper lands and the Varangians"
@marieagheorghe8081 "...ἃς Ρωμαῖοι μὲν ἰδόντες ἀῤῥήτου χαρμονῆς ὑπεπλήσθησαν, Σκύθας δὲ δέος ᾕρει, τὸ ἐπιφερόμενον αὐτοῖς ὑγρὸν πῦρ"..."τὸν μετὰ Σφενδοσθλάβον τρίτον παρὰ Ταυροσκύθαις τιμώμενον Σφέγκελον" Book History, written by Leon Diakonos in 990 ac. The Rus are referred as Σκύθες (Scythians) and the Kievan Rus as Ταυροσκύθαις ( Scythians of Tavriki, the Greek name of the area of ukraine.) Can you point me in an actual source that a) says that the Rus are Mongols and b) that the proto-ukranians weren't the Kievan Rus?
@user-cg2tw8pw7j I am a Greek, and I stated what was known at that time. Sima Qian, Chinese historian, describes them as blond and red haired.. so yeah
I don't blame the two brothers one bit for bowing down to the Mongols. They would've been destroyed otherwise.
I mean not really a fan of the Russians but proto-Ukrainians really?
It's total cringe. The Romans were also no proto-Italians
Yeah me too. I don't know much of the region, but I think its quite far fetch?
@@radec5437 The RUthenian ethnonym was still common amongst Ukrainians all the way up to the 20th century.
@@abukafiralalmani The Ruthenian ethnonym was still common amongst Ukrainians all the way up till the 20th century.
@alekshukhevych2644 Ruthenians did not include just Ukraine, no need to appropriate history
K&G.... I like your videos, they are good way to learn history and made me buy several books about many civs/empires/etc.
But calling the Kievan Rus as proto-Ukranians... Is way, but way far fetched. That's the same as calling the Lusitanians, a celtiberian tribe, the proto-portuguese.
Ruthenians would, at least, have been a better phrasing.
that is, Genoese, Milanese and Bolognese are not Italians? and it turns out that the Italians appeared only in the 19th century?
@@Kwerd Not sure if you are joking but northern Italia was indeed settled by celtic (Romans called them gallic) people. Northern Italy was indeed called provincia gallia cisalpina (Gallia this side of the Alps), then came 600 years Roman rule, then the German Langobard (or Lombards) moved into the area. So, what IS Italian and which one of these people are proto-Italian? Diogo Sousa is absolutely correct that calling Ruthenians from 1000 years ago proto-Ukrainians is absurd and K&G apparently agreed as they changed the title.
@@yaldabaoth2 And where did the Ruthenians disappear then? Some nomads came and took their place, or how?
@@Kwerd Mixed with Kossack, Turkic/mongol (tatar), Turkish, Polish, Lithuanians, Romanians, Russians etc. There weren't many Ruthenians left after the mongols were done (Kyiv destroyed and 95%+ of the population killed) and mostly near the Carpathian mountains. The steppes were empty and dominated by non-ruthenian nomads.
@@Kwerd you do realize that Ukraine this time had several groups besides the Kievan Rus.
Your example of the Genoese and others from the italian peninsula cant really be compared to the Kievan Rus.
They weren't proto-italians, they were already italians.
That's way i said "Ruthenians", as then we know we're talking about the Rus that would, throughout centuries, become the Ukrainians.
The Portuguese were once the same as the Galicians (in Galiza, Spain, both descendents of the inhabitants in the Northwest corner of Iberia), same language, culture and costumes. But through historical events, as the roman conquest of Iberia and the consequent divide of the peninsula with the roman provinces of Lusitania and Gallaecia, and later disputes between aristocratic families, churches and others, the soon to be Portuguese rebelled from Galiza and expanded south. Is somewhat similar with the Kievan Rus... A group that would later split between the Ukranians and Russians (as well the Belarusians... The almost always forgotten brother of the 3).
Curumsah successor was a different story.
Yeah in south Kazakhstan many villages on his name. Boraldai, Burundai
Excellent video 📹
We wait for the next part.
The Battle of the Kolka River is covered but then how do the Battles of Legnica and Mohi not figure into the story?
Changing the title and thumbnail was a good decision.
They changed the thumbnail lmao😂😂
You can call them Ruthenians, Kievan Rus, but Proto-ukrainians? As someone said, there were on dose stepes scithians, jazars, turks, cossaks, tatars, mongols, slavs, nordsmen, even parthians maybe but nothing proto-ukrainian.
Unlike the video and unsucribed the channel.
They could called them just Rus. This is very close to the term which they used for themselves in that time.
They were proto-ukrainian. MOSTLY SAME people as Ukrainian has now.
by naming them proto- ukrainians they make a claim those people are ukrainian ancestors and this is pretty much it
@Ivo Palazzo Kievan Rus did not exist, there was Rus, and it was exclusively on the territory of Ukraine, according to ancient chronicles
and the Cossacks are no longer Ukrainians?)))
Outstanding video, guys. 👍
Proto-Ukranians? Lol.
Edit: They changed it. Pathetic. Be skeptical of anyone who makes subtle changes in their presentation of history in order for political benefit.
There a lot of inaccurate information in this video. For example, Battle of Kalka river wasn't just between Halych-Volynia principality and Mongols. There were much more knyaz of other Rus principalities, who participated in battle. For example, the head of Rus coalition was Mstislav the Old, who was slain in battle.
There were no Cuman, they were Kipchak
@@ChevyChase301 why do you call yourself Karl V. Do you really thing you are a king? Very mature
Thank you for the video 👊🏻
"Proto Ukrainians" how weasel can you get kings and generals. Pathetic
He's definitely getting personally payed by Elensky
They called themselves Rus. Distorting history isn't a help for Ukraine.
@@abukafiralalmani why do you keep parroting this like tens of times? Show us a historic document, where whole modern Part of Ukraine called themselves Rus?
@@EMillerphotography Look after the title of the King of Galicia in Lviv. "King of the Rus' " in Western Ukraine. Look how Ukrainians called their language before the 17th century. It was "руська мова" (Language of the Rus')
@@superpower21 I have never stated that
Weren’t they Cossacks?
They came later in the times of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, the Crimean Khanate and the Tsardom of Russia. It's around 1450 to 1750
Cossacks was Borodnik tribes in dnieper in that time.
@@cosmiccosmonaut820 stop reading r*ssian history propaganda.
@@cosmiccosmonaut820 What growing Russian demographic in Ukraine? What are u even talking about. Cossacks were huge. During the Hetmanate every region of free Ukraine had Cossack battallions.
Proto-East Slavs vs Proto-Common Mongols
@@globalterroil3208 You wrote that reply 2h ago according to youtube, so I guess you didn't see the video's original title & thumbnail. That's what people are making fun of
the disunity of Rus principalities and other eastern European kingdoms even in the threat of Mongol empire is puzzling.
Will be interesting to learn about the Korean and Indian conquests, topics with little coverage. One question I hope K&G answers is, why the Koreans didn't get the same treatment as the Song dynasty? Both resisted for decades yet the Song got obliterated and the Koreans got a slap on the wrist and essentially treated as if they had initially surrendered and never resisted.
Because Kublai Khan was claiming to be Emperor of China, among his other titles. He can accept the King of Korea as a vassal. But the Zhao family who ruled the Song had to go.
@@JayFLee1 lol then why Kublai Khan didn’t accept his daughters to marry han chinese? Many mongol princesses married korean kings.
@@JayFLee1 Chinese always have excuses and trying to distort fabricate history.
Goryeo was kurgan or son in law country, Mongols saw them as almost familial kin after 30 years of war.
@@JayFLee1 regardless of what they thought about being Chinese or not, their actions were the same everywhere, resist and you get obliterated after defeat. Same across China, Middle East, Eastern Europe, but not Korea. Why?
Gotta love the Ruzzian sycophants in comments screaming about a reference to Ukrainians. The hardest cope in history.
No it is the hardest correction in history. Ukraine wasn't used at that time. Neither for the people nor for the state.
@@abukafiralalmani The first uses of the term "Ukraine" were in the 12th century to refer to the region, and by the 16th century it was used in official chronicles. By the 20th century terms like "Ruthenian", "Podolian", or "Volhynian" were anachronistic and gave way to "Ukrainian". It was also used to describe the Cossack Hetmanate.
It's a perfectly valid historical term to use in reference to an area and the people living there, unless you're a modern-day Russian revisionist with motive to impose the "Little Russian" epithet that wasn't a thing until long after the development of nationalism. Cope harder.
@vondondolo1582 It was not used as an ethnonym and meant borderland. No need to push your propaganda
I don't understand butthurt reactions in the comments over calling Ruthenians under the king Danylo proto-Ukrainians. Proto-Belarusians were a part of Lithuania back then. Proto-Russians -- part of Golden Horde as Vladimir-Suzdal Duchy. Proto-Ukrainians were a part of Ruthenian Kingdom. Later that Kingdom was annexed into Polish-Luthuanian Commonwealth and Ukrainian identity was formed in the midst of the Poles and Lithuanians.
Or you don't understand modern meaning of the prefix "proto"? Nowadays, we have come to understand it as "before", rather than "first". Like, proto-Greeks before the Bronze Age were not Greek and didn't call themselves this way. Yet we call them proto-Greeks in the books.
Denounced the video for misinformation
Liking that big stack of money for propaganda eh?
Not Proto-Ukrainian but Rus or Ancient Rus 🤦🏻♂️.
They were that,because russians are the descendens of the mongols who destroy The real Rusia they became white by mixing with The real russians,The ukrainians.
Same sh*t. All synonyms.
Elite adjustment on the title that’s a 4 star general action
Are we going to start calling the Roman Empire, proto Italy or British empire proto usa now? What a joke
The Anglosaxons are proto-USA 😂
how can you even compare colonists and natives? you must be joking
@@Kwerd colonist build America
Medieval England is proto-Britain. Is it not?
@@andriilink5666 that’s the only one that works if we’re using the proto instead of their ACTUAL NAME because the King Charles is a descendant of William the conqueror which started medieval England
18:00 - As a Mongol, *Damn my ancestors got around.*
Because of this channel I've really started to respect Mongols and that era!
Little bit from Ghost of Tsushima too. I actually liked going around and collecting all the mongol items to learn about the culture of the time they came from!
They were like guns against archers, because of the horse mastery.
But this is the eternal conflict between hunter and gatherer!
Waiting for Delhi Sultanate video
Great video again!
Defeating the Mongols was no small feet, it took talent.
Defeating, and kinda avoiding. 😅
If the Mongols already conquered the lands, the only way to defeat them is to wait for the Mongols' authority to becoming more corrupted and weaker to the point of it is impossible for the Khan to control anything. And then, struck them as fast as lightning and as hard as a boulder.
Pls make a documentary on history of Goa
Lol, Rus is also proto-Russian and proto-Belarus. The correct title is "How proto-East Slavs didn't defend themselves against the mongols"!
@@Paul_Geriat cope
Because russians are the descendens of the mongols who destroy The real Rusia they became white by mixing with The real russians,The ukrainians.
No coments
lol, how Galicia-Volhynia is proto-Russian and proto-Belarusian?
After the fall of the Sassanids ( who fought off the Khazarians during their entire existence) Khazarians became a headache for the Rus people around the Caspian sea . Interestingly the " Rus vikings" were the ones who destroyed the khazar khaganat once and for all .
Actually Khazars were very advanced nation, with pretty well developed trade. The city of Sarkel was big and flourishing city, before Rus razed it to the ground.
@Technocratos That's not what their neighbors believed,.... in fact ,they were considered so " uncivilized ", that th Sassanid Persians built the Derbent Fortifications at the northwestern Caucasian borders of Persia just in order to prevent them from plundering the villiges , ....The Russ Vikings had same problems with the khazars at their mutual southern borders .
They were causing same troubles for the Arab Islamic khalifat that replaced the Sassanid empire .
We even have Roman reports of how khazarian influential people caused corruption in the Roman/ Catholic church.
Fantastic video! I can't wait for the next ones.
I saw the previous title & thumbnail
We have won! The proto-Ukrainians in the title became Ruthenians which was the Latin term for the Rus'
In a different place, the brothers would start a civil war.
The Kievan Rus are Ruthenians as much as the Principalities of Novgorod, Chernigov, Smolensk, Vladimir-Suzdal, Pereyaslavl, Polotsk, Galicia-Volhynia, Murom-Razan, Turov and later Tver, Moscow, etc.
Ukrainians on the other hand are a mix of both Ruthenian Ancestory and that of Scythians, Sarmatians, Khazars, Polovtsy (Cumans), Tatars, Circassians and several other cultures who inhabited the Pontic-Caspian Steppe, south of Kiev.
Areas controlled by the Grand Duchy of Lithuania after driving out the Mongols of the Golden Horde before being conquered again by Moscow from Poland-Lithuania.
How can you still call yourselves historians after blatantly rewriting history and applying this pseudo terminology. You should be charged for spreading misinformation, it's a disgrace.
There are many things I myself would do for money but compromising my integrity is not one of them.
This is everything I wanted to say or have been trying to
Ukrainians are not a mix. By that logic every nation is a mix. Ukrainians are at least 80% of rus blood with some mix ins which is the case for every nation. You make it sound like ruthenians were only a small part of modern ukraine ancestry when in reality its an overwhelming majority.
@@fungunsun1 First, Mixed Cultures is exactly the logic behind why you do not toy around with non-existent terms like "proto-ukrainian". Composition is everything and misinformation is dangerous.
Second, do not take my words out of context, I stated the impartial, cold, hard facts as they are. The Ruthenian Ancestory is just as important as that of the Pontic-Caspian Steppe cultures.
I did not make it "sound like" anything, you should be very careful with your own rhetoric.
@@viscountwilliammelbry6147 ahahahahahaha
@@viscountwilliammelbry6147 Correction, Ukrainians ARE Ruthenians. That was our ethnonym till the 20th century. We are Slavs mixed with Scythians and others.
5:30 I noticed a sliver of lighter coloured green at Kerch on this map. What's the context for that?
A mistake :-)
What about central Asia defended againts the mongols (the first invasion)?
Do the Filipino-American War next!
Proto Ukrainians? Really lol
@Fresh Russian Meat It's not even about that buddy
Because russians are the descendens of the mongols who destroy The real Rusia they became white by mixing with The real russians,The ukrainians.
what is your "lol"?
I don't get the joke, other than your comment.
Proto? Are u kidding me? Try with rus or slavs… fkn western propaganda
Try some history and English lessons
@@EMillerphotography plz find a source from that time where the term ”ukrainian” is used.
@@jackn6441 plz find the meaning of the word 'proto'
@@jackn6441 m.antikor.com.ua/foto/articles_images/39000/39709_9.jpg heres a scan of the Page from 1187
@@asterite3718 in that area its RUS!
sounds more like an uneasy cooporation and partnership than defence
Very good historical video, like abd subscribe!
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I don't think the US should help Turkey until they give up there S-400 systems and accept Sweden into NATO and Syria under Assad should be left to their fate see how quick their Russian overlords come...
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There is a massive tragedy but you just talking about politics?
You are not a human John
@@mtsmts1923 don't bite the hand that feeds and expect nothing your nations actions have consequences...
@@johnbooth5297 hope you taste same tragedy
I will pray tonight for you guys. And John I will pray for your heart to soften up. We all need help sometimes, we are all humans sharing an earth
Sad reminder than the actual "Darwin arch" in Galapagos islands displayed in the game sponsoredcollapsed a few years ago... a sight that will be missed.
In a strictly historical sense, however, it is most frequently used for the Turkic (mainly Kipchak) tribes who constituted the bulk of the Mongol army that invaded Russia in the early thirteenth century.
Invaded who, sorry?
@@romanscerbak5167 Maybe check when such terms were used in Western sources
The adds are particularly abrasive in this channel. Otherwise decent content.
there is no such a thing as proto-ukrainians
But there was a thing called the Rus'
@@abukafiralalmani exactly, not Proto-ukraine, but the Rus'
They were that,because russians are the descendens of the mongols who destroy The real Rusia they became white by mixing with The real russians,The ukrainians.
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@@tamatoa7477 do you know the meaning of the term 'proto'?
@@asterite3718 i know
Thank you for showing true history of Ukraine!
Do not react on ruzzian xenophobic coments and historical kremlin's lie in comments down here.
Some suggestions first vocal "y" in "Kyiv" is sound like in Danylo name.
Chernihiv, not Chernigov.
Thank you!
Heyy can anyone help me like i have to see all the 770 videos of this channel so how should i proceed watch as uploaded from start to now or as playlist like all series
Good,
I love this channel 💙
Seeing one of the brothers portraits all I see is Liam neeson.
Please patent this amazing voice here before some AI generated software starts using it
Ukraine is Rus'. Even before the 19th century, Ukrainians still called themselves Ruthenians or Rus'. the country that is now called "Russia" is Muscovian Tsardom , which was renamed "Russia" by Tsar Peter I in 1720 in order to steal the history of the Rus in this way, to which these wild Finno-Ugric people have nothing to do (at most, as a colony of the Rus in the Middle Ages that paid tribute to Kiev ). that's all. but it's hard for Europeans to understand because they confuse the concepts of RUS and RUSSIA, thinking that they are one and the same.
If that were the case, would Tsar Peter name the land Finland or Urgic? I find it hard to swallow my friend. Peter as I know had wars against the Finnish, why would he attack his "Finnish homeland" why would his subjects speak a Slavic tongue? Did Peter go about educating the Fins and Ugric populations in Moscovia a new tongue? As you know Peter had a German pedigree backround as many dynasties do even to this day. Do you think Prussia attempted to steal the Rus name? And who was Rurik to you? And what is your position on the people of Finland today?
superb stuffia
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Proto Ukranians ? Hahahaha
Mabey better use term "ukrainian predecessors")
@@TurtleChad1 it's a language group just try looking it up ...
Next video will be,, how Russians are actually Mongol, 🤣🤣🤣🤣,, History channel kings & general become more and more turing into propaganda channels,, 🤣🤣
@@alarmenkoThey are predecessors of all eastern Slavs. Why exclude others?
@@NoobMaster-rt3rj He's getting payed by Elensky personally
Thx
What is that map? Halych never had any territory inside the carpathians.
There was words for "Yarlik" in Ukraine:
"Worse than death is tatar honor"
When in muskovy was Alexander Nevskiy who was most loyal prince to Khan.
@@riko_sandokan Well yes, i called it "Muskovy" in sense like people calling Ruthenian Kingdom Ukraine.
@@sircatangry5864 Bro has his own history, ukrs dugged the Black sea
А как Данилка кумыс попивал, да поганым кланялся на коленки не хочешь рассказать?
Kyiv tribe was savage, In 1248 as well Kyiv took out halych making it apart of Kyiv and moving northward
Nice one about early Ukraine!!! Thank you K&G!!!
Hello bro pls make on Karkota dynasty
Was the city was called kiev or kyiv back then?
Kiev
Daniel not adopted Catholicism, he just recognised pope as highest and most respectful person in Christianity and was supporter of orthodox and catholic churches split into 1.
answer: they didn't
Just saying, the map shows Subcarpathia as part of the Rus, which had never been. Subcarpathia was Hungarian territory until 1920 (and 1938-1945). Neither the Rus, nor Ukraine had nothing to do with it up until a couple of decades ago ...
Угорці його ніколи не контролювали
Fighting Mongols by being their vassal, successful
thank you very much from Kyiv
it's also like calling the tribes Mokshan, Erzya, a couple of Mongols and a drunken bear, - Proto-Russian 🤔🤔🤔
You should make videos on India
I. Am. Speed.
The massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia (Polish: rzeź wołyńska, lit. 'Volhynian slaughter'; Ukrainian: Волинська трагедія, romanized: Volynska trahediia, lit. 'Volyn tragedy'), were carried out in German-occupied Poland by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, or the UPA, with the support of parts of the local Ukrainian population against the Polish minority in Volhynia, Eastern Galicia, parts of Polesia and Lublin region from 1943 to 1945.The peak of the massacres took place in July and August 1943. Most of the victims were women and children.[8] Many of the Polish victims regardless of age or gender were tortured before being killed; some of the methods included rape, dismemberment or immolation, among others.[5] The UPA's actions resulted in between 50,000 and 100,000 deaths.
How is this connected with the subject of the video?
And?
Ruzzian propaganda
Why don't you mention the Katyn Massacre, Holodomar and Great Purges under Stalin?
Kremlin bot doing his work.
I only watched the vid for the fishing…
In all actuality, this is the kind of stuff I know the least about and now I know more. Keep up the good work!
In my opinion , Rus ceded to exist after Yaroslav . Various principalities and rulers were only descendants of Rus , which I see as an entity . Politics, interests, actions of this principalities were no longer common , but quite in opposition , so the Rus entity no longer existed . Talking about Rus even after it have split , gives the Muscovites the argument of pretending to be the heirs of Rus . Those Muscovites which were much of a tool of the Mongols for quite long time .
Facts
Rus' was a conglomeration of principalities since the beginning. Never a centralized state. Moreover, according to the Primary Chronicle people from Novgorod, Pskov, Suzdal etc traveled to Rus' and back.
Rus' land in the narrow sense of the term was a compact area around Kyiv, Chernihiv and Pereyaslav up until the 13th century (when Roman the Great, a ruler of Halych-Volhynia, became the grand prince of Kyiv and all Rus' and his son Danylo a king of Rus').
@@Vithimerius Maybe I expressed myself wrongly . I was reffering to Kiewan Rus , which was an unified state from Oleg to the death of Yaroslav , when got split between his sons . Never after , the resulted principalities had common goals or history .
@@seaman5705 pretty sure the Russian empire reunited the lands of the kievan Rus for 100s of years so your opinion is incorrect.
@@zodric7999 Pretty sure the Muskovite Empire conquered/invaded the lands of former Kievan Rus . Moskow was not part of Kivan Rus , while this existed , so it was a conquest/invasion , starting with Novgorod in 1478 . Moskow was first mentioned AFTER Kievan Rus split between the sons of Yaroslav and it was for a good time part of the Mongol Empire or The Horde .
''Eventually Ivan III forcibly annexed the city (Novgorod) to the Grand Duchy of Moscow in 1478. The Veche was dissolved and a significant part of Novgorod's aristocracy, merchants and smaller landholding families was deported to central Russia.'' - it does not look like a reunification at all . This was the begining of the forever aggression of Moscow towards all it's neighbors and it still continues today . In every conquered territory , part of the population was deported and rusification begun . Name ''Russian'' is a theft of identity .
So , I stand behind my opinion .
Insane amount of ads. Made the video unwatchable every 2 minutes, beginning of video, end of video, ridiculous.
Unsubbing till yall fix your monetization issues.
Shouldn't be. There should be 1 at the start and 1 in the middle. I wonder if it is a RUclips bug.
What about tell peak of Cossack country building, when they wrote second world constitution, and created first modern type republic with different branches of government with parliament as "Rada" and president as "Hetman"