This is pure genius, I can literally go back to my fishing journal and every fly I've actually caught fish with was like this unfortunately not many in my box seem to have these elements. To the vice!
This is awesome! So neatly explained. It had a big impact on my thinking when designing my atlantic salmon flies. My OCD just hate flies that don't ride level.
Another informative tutorial on tubes. I think yours are the most informative because you focus on the design, and not just a "how to tie" this pattern. Thanks.
I can not believe that nobody has commented on this tutorial yet. This is a great video. I will be getting in to tying tube flies this year and getting the Fly Men Fishing Company’s desktop size Fly Tester that they are coming out with this year for $99.99 . My wife and I got in to Spey casting for Steelhead 8 years ago through my uncle who is a Master Spey Caster and a very well known Steelhead Guide. He would use tube flies and Steelhead flies tied on Spey hooks. I mostly used wooly buggers, egg sucking leeches with a hot glue egg and bunny strips and egg patterns when I fished for Steelhead. I got in to tying classic patterns on Spey hooks but now I want to get in to tying tube flies and this video is very helpful. Thanks again for the tutorial. Much appreciated!!!!
Thank you! I just found my second second video made by you. Both are great. I was looking for answers to what the cone is creating to a tube fly, and why the bullet or the china hat shapes. Turbulence will be a part of the answer. Surprised to find so little on this topic. Very happy to find your good work!
Cones serve both to bring the centre of gravity forward so that the fly noses down in current, plus it creates turbulence by directing the flow away from the central axis of the fly. Small eddies will form directly downstream of the cone, kicking hackles around. The way the current will flow around the cone and outward (think water flowing around a rock), sucks the hackles farther out from the body, creating the illusion of bulk.
That was some fantastic insight! I might have to share this with some fellow tiers or...could just catch all the fish they missed because of their fly designe.
Thank you Peter! Great video! I am just about to embark upon tying some tube flies. Heading to Gaspé this September. Can't use any cones on the flies there.
Hey peter! Nice to subscribe to your channel! This is paulo from Caledonia😁! How was down river, did you get any luck there? This videos very informative as ive been trying to fish with tube flies more. Im using the cone ones. Man i never even thought of COG/COP for these flies. Good to know sir! Anyway see you on the river again one day maybe same spot when it gets a bit colder.👊🏼👍🏼🎣
Hi Paulo, nothing but bass so far. Saw one guy with a steelhead on a stringer at the dam and that's been it. To be fair, I haven't fished much so far this fall, more teaching, guiding and video than anything else.
You would be surprised how many classic patterns don't swim all that well, yet are still effective fish catchers for a variety of reasons. In the case of the Sunday Shadow, the fly is fished high in the water column for Atlantic salmon who see the fly from below and hit it from below. This negates the hook sag and profile problem. Fish a Sunday Shadow deep for steelhead and you would have a very different opinion of it. You would have a lot of pulls and only a few hookups.
@@hooked4lifeca Agree. Although, we fish variations of the sunray also deeper in the water column. Sunray variations are also often used with full sinking lines for migratory seatrout, and for this I think they are just plain awful when fished low and slow. A good question though, is how to generate a good amount of lift far back on a medium sized tube fly where you want that drop shaped body. Most of us nowadays just use copper tubes or heavy cones and are happy with that, but there are upsides to light flies sometimes.
@@DanielSwe93 Adding a little bit of drag at the rear of the tube or on the hook, will lift the rear of the fly. A larger diameter plastic bead between the hook and the body, or a bit of hackle tied at the rear or on the hook, will produce enough drag to partially lift the rear. Also a small copper tube, maybe as little as 1 cm long slipped over the front of the tube, improves things further.
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This is pure genius, I can literally go back to my fishing journal and every fly I've actually caught fish with was like this unfortunately not many in my box seem to have these elements. To the vice!
This is awesome! So neatly explained. It had a big impact on my thinking when designing my atlantic salmon flies. My OCD just hate flies that don't ride level.
Another informative tutorial on tubes. I think yours are the most informative because you focus on the design, and not just a "how to tie" this pattern. Thanks.
I can not believe that nobody has commented on this tutorial yet. This is a great video. I will be getting in to tying tube flies this year and getting the Fly Men Fishing Company’s desktop size Fly Tester that they are coming out with this year for $99.99 . My wife and I got in to Spey casting for Steelhead 8 years ago through my uncle who is a Master Spey Caster and a very well known Steelhead Guide. He would use tube flies and Steelhead flies tied on Spey hooks. I mostly used wooly buggers, egg sucking leeches with a hot glue egg and bunny strips and egg patterns when I fished for Steelhead. I got in to tying classic patterns on Spey hooks but now I want to get in to tying tube flies and this video is very helpful. Thanks again for the tutorial. Much appreciated!!!!
Peter, thanks for that. As usual, another straightforward and informative video from you. Your instructional videos are top class!
Thank you! I just found my second second video made by you. Both are great. I was looking for answers to what the cone is creating to a tube fly, and why the bullet or the china hat shapes. Turbulence will be a part of the answer. Surprised to find so little on this topic. Very happy to find your good work!
Cones serve both to bring the centre of gravity forward so that the fly noses down in current, plus it creates turbulence by directing the flow away from the central axis of the fly. Small eddies will form directly downstream of the cone, kicking hackles around. The way the current will flow around the cone and outward (think water flowing around a rock), sucks the hackles farther out from the body, creating the illusion of bulk.
That was some fantastic insight! I might have to share this with some fellow tiers or...could just catch all the fish they missed because of their fly designe.
Thank you Peter! Great video! I am just about to embark upon tying some tube flies. Heading to Gaspé this September. Can't use any cones on the flies there.
They say fly fishing is not rocket science, but now it turned in to that :P
Great vid
Thanks, this is really valuable information!
Great video 👍
Hey peter! Nice to subscribe to your channel! This is paulo from Caledonia😁! How was down river, did you get any luck there? This videos very informative as ive been trying to fish with tube flies more. Im using the cone ones. Man i never even thought of COG/COP for these flies. Good to know sir! Anyway see you on the river again one day maybe same spot when it gets a bit colder.👊🏼👍🏼🎣
Hi Paulo, nothing but bass so far. Saw one guy with a steelhead on a stringer at the dam and that's been it. To be fair, I haven't fished much so far this fall, more teaching, guiding and video than anything else.
So in other words: the classic Sunray Shadow that we fish here in Sweden and in Norway is the dumbest fly ever constructed. 8-)
You would be surprised how many classic patterns don't swim all that well, yet are still effective fish catchers for a variety of reasons. In the case of the Sunday Shadow, the fly is fished high in the water column for Atlantic salmon who see the fly from below and hit it from below. This negates the hook sag and profile problem. Fish a Sunday Shadow deep for steelhead and you would have a very different opinion of it. You would have a lot of pulls and only a few hookups.
@@hooked4lifeca Agree. Although, we fish variations of the sunray also deeper in the water column. Sunray variations are also often used with full sinking lines for migratory seatrout, and for this I think they are just plain awful when fished low and slow.
A good question though, is how to generate a good amount of lift far back on a medium sized tube fly where you want that drop shaped body. Most of us nowadays just use copper tubes or heavy cones and are happy with that, but there are upsides to light flies sometimes.
@@DanielSwe93 Adding a little bit of drag at the rear of the tube or on the hook, will lift the rear of the fly. A larger diameter plastic bead between the hook and the body, or a bit of hackle tied at the rear or on the hook, will produce enough drag to partially lift the rear. Also a small copper tube, maybe as little as 1 cm long slipped over the front of the tube, improves things further.