Thank you so much man I’m definitely going away from the esports route and more the history route so I’m really glad you’re enjoying these videos, much love 🫶
SPEAKING ON CEATERS I just faced one. A Cheater of the D-DOS type. They literaly lagged to badly my game froze at points. I reported them but it's not as if BMG cares They practicly endorse cheating. With the whole "The report system is so effective! We have replied to 0 comments so far" thing. The game has 0 anticheat in a game based on elo. As I said endorsing cheating.
damn bro I’m so sorry that sucks and yea BMG isn’t the best at banning people 😭 hopefully that doesn’t happen again but I appreciate you sharing smmm, much love
the easiest way to tell if someone is a cheater is if they consistently do reverse weapon throws or chase dodges. they are useless and only happen when if done frame perfect.
I oddly see tons of possible lag switch users as i would be playing twos with my fruend and be perfectly fine for a few matches and then all of a sudden im red bars, and next game it fixes itself. Might be my wifi but I doubt it
Brawlhalla is super inconsistent the same thing happens to me I’d assume it’s probably your Wi-Fi especially when playing 2s u might be on your friends servers causing u to lag slightly more
I SAW THAT and idk how to feel I personally think it'll lower the skill gap which kinda sucks but also good if you have really bad input lag in game, kinda torn on it
Yeah but they said people usong the feature instead of actualy perfect dodging would have a little disadventage (or the other way around I can't remember)
lmao about a year ago there was also an infestation of players in rocket league using bots to cheat with a similar looking program. also based off injection. very interesting
Such a great question and thought driving behind this video!! I was locked in from the very beginning. I feel like the most basic cheats in Brawlhalla will fall into the same issue that many League of Legends cheats run in to... which is top players usually handle cheaters with little issues. IE scripting makes the LoL player move in a way thats unnatural but still punishable. I feel like choosen bots are a close replica of what cheating would look like but its just never as strong as a actually skilled player
Thank you so much bro I’m glad you enjoyed, personally I agree cheating at its current state will only affect lower level players and using macros is the easiest way of saying u have a massive skill issue. Appreciate you lots boss can’t wait to see what you’re cooking up ❤️
I will say that ive encountered many cheaters using bots in ranked 1v1 and i can tell you its exactly like just fighting a chosen bot you know when they walk around forwards and backwards to the edge of the stage whilst waiting for you to respawn? Yeah thats exactly how you can tell theyre cheating
The Special-K incident was handled in a very mediocre way, on the one hand it made total sense to ban it, as in not banning it would be an admission by BMG of their game's poor optimization and also the high crash rate is very bad. On the other hand, when Foda came out and said they'll eventually implement Special-K's optimizations into the game, so that it would perform just as well, this was never done and this situation was not addressed again. What this means is, BH is essentially a pay-to-win game at the highest level, the player with the 360Hz monitor has a big advantage in an online tournament setting, because of the game's poor optimization, this becomes even more evident when we're talking about top-level players.
True I wish they followed through on their promise as I agree making people install a external program is honestly terrible for business but when u have massive advantages based on hardware it can be very annoying, so honestly I agree with u and hopefully one day they’ll follow through with their promise
brawlhalla is NOT pay to win, unless you consider EVERY game pay to win using that logic, ofcourse someone with worse wifi, worse Hz, worse FPS will have a less success rate compared to that said person with better wifi, better hz, better fps???? like what???
My experience as an iron player seing "People" using frame perfect doges, perfect true combos every time they hit, and seemingly inhumanly quick weapon swapping- Yeah I don't belive for a second its ligit. The bots on brawlhalla are made to counter whatever lendend to you play to keep you from rising to quickly. And as you try to get back to gold for the 10th time- new iron players end up facing you and loosing. Causing them to also get stuck.
Yea it must be infuriating and in iron it could also be smurfs, regardless tho I hate to hear so many of you guys have to deal with these bots, I hope you can climb out soon bro
@@cerofr I mean even if my rank doesn't Increase I am still getting better and have a level 15 Kor and Valkov... As a mobile player on a phone :) never expected to get far as a mobile player on a small screen so all good ig 🤷♂️ Mobile is on general a janky platform, when I go to report someone (I am 99% sure the reports don't actualy get received) the typing is so scuffed and most messages look like this: Smurfin g and possibly cheating, unrealistic dodge timings for an iron player. The issue with the report box is you can't delete text once there is at least a one space gap, the text is extremely laggy and near impossible to use. Quite likely to stop people from trying to use it. Mobile needs matenince but nobody at bmg wants to. I picked up the game just before loki was released- dark times for lower teirs. Tho it always bothered me there was no 1v1 stock mode for non ranked. Feels like a first instinct for a platformer. This game is more of a hobby but as someone who has played mobile games for years I can resist the attempts to force you to pay2win. The one thing I can say is: for a mobile game, not having ads is an actual blessing.
I literally just opened the game and encountered 2 cheaters in a row and I'm glad other people are talking about this, trying to make it more "public" so more people are aware of this. Mine were honestly somewhat blatant to me as they simply had perfect "wake up" attacks and counter attacks and some nasty and sometimes also random dodges across the map while I attacked far from them. But I'm glad you also mentioned "Special K", cheating means having an unfair advantage and yes, having something EXTERNAL improving your game is indeed having an unfair advantage, even tho it "only" boosts the quality of the game, it's still cheating. Great video :)
thank you for making this video, it was much needed as i looked into this myself and couldn't find much. about the bots however, i remember boomie a few years ago getting beaten by a bot, and you could tell it was a bot because of how it played, if i find it i will send it here. great video, you got yourself a sub!
@@cerofr here's the bot i remember looking at, it has a clip of boomie talking about bots but i couldn't find the video of him losing to one: ruclips.net/video/wM1roKWL_jU/видео.html
also, this video from solarson, a pro player, analysing how he lost to a bot, showing it doing frame perfect actions: ruclips.net/video/52c3122q_G8/видео.html so yeah these bots are very much able to compete at the highest level
Don't think I've ever ran into a cheater. Theres try hards (easy to spot) theres spammers (then theres good spammers) then theres the gawd damn one trick ponies that make that one trick of there's solid and all dodge routes for the victim (No longer work)
As a top 100 brawl player in NA I find it very funny whenever i queue a cheater (havent queued one since i made a video on it months ago) because what theyre doing will never be optimal at the highest level. The one I queued in that video had good movement and used a cheat to do what it considered the optimal punish frame perfectly, which sounds good on paper, until they find out that they are trying to optimally punish moves that are nowhere near them, leading to them getting punished. If you lack fundamentals to the point where you have to cheat in a platform fighter, you are not going to do well regardless of whether or not you are cheating.
Yea I figured as much especially if you are solely relying on a bot to do everything for u as I imagine it becomes super easy to punish/predict. I appreciate your input bc I honestly had no idea how they could stack up against top players like yourself, really appreciate the input 🫶
Ddossing def does happen. Mostly around 1900-2000 due to boosters and stuff. You can always tell when someone is doing it when they stand still or start moving just a little bit to not get hit while they take u out the game, then boom all of the sudden you have to connect to the server again.
hmmm ill have to do more research on it ik it can happen in very rare cases but everything i read said that DDOSSING was almost impossible due to the servers not being peer to peer, maybe if the DDOSer actually had the players info they could ddos their person internet
Im from Argentine and I play on the South American servers and it is full of cheaters (both in the ranked and in the experimental), 9 out of 10 rivals have cheats. Some are new players who don't know how to hide, it's so pathetic. In this 2024 almost 2025, the arrival of cheats of all kinds increased in online video games, it is a plague.
This is great. I've actually come across users that have disabled the Report button so you can't report them. Dash always being on and Autododge are the biggies I've come across way too many times to count. Also it's usually an international player outside of the US that has these hacks on. Only once I've come across an invincible player though.
In most cases I agree but there have been a few bots that have even given top players a run for their money but I think have since been banned thankfully
Definitely a decent video. Do feel like the research was kinda “rushed” since dex bot at its peak had gotten the attention of pros as the users (before being exposed) were quite literally farming top 100 players in 24-2500. Pros had joined the discord server for the dex bot to play against it and really see the difference. Pros like Boomie & Ethan saw the difference between a human vs the bot pretty early and then ruled it easy to detect. There was so much information on it you just would have had to interview a few specific top players to get the FULL scope of it potential. DDOSing was VERY possible and still is as players (who were some of the 1st banned players) such as, Doh & Serenade were known to ddos esp when they did it in tournament against noel (who spoke out about the situation which later got them banned) I did enjoy the video and how clean the production is keep up the good work 🔥💯 I would even recommend taking up becoming a brawlhalla journalist of some sort. Good vid
I really appreciate you man and I won’t lie you’re totally right with the busyness of the holidays mixed with me also wanting to keep my consistency I rushed a bit of research in turn missing a few points. I really appreciate the info and trust me bro I also really appreciate the honesty my next video will be even better, thank you tons ❤️
That means a lot as i do too, this game means so much to me so hopefully that can happen as I want to see u at the top of the coaching space of brawlhalla, lets make 2024 great brother@@CoachCosmic
No lie, as soon as I opened RUclips I saw this video immediately after I just got done fighting someone that had a new account with a generated name. They didn't miss a single combo. It didn't matter where I was on the map, he was hitting me every single time. The only thing I could do was try to read his dodges to hit him, but even then he was still somehow reading me and countering. Just like a chosen bot would. It's sad, really.
@@cerofr Yeah.. it sucks. He invited me to a custom lobby so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I thought maybe he got lucky. I accepted the invite but I think that may have been my first real encounter with a cheater. There's not a doubt in my mind. I legit couldn't do anything against him. He was accurate with all of his attacks, with every single legend he used. I'm only Plat and I've fought many Diamonds that don't even fight the way he did. Great video by the way! I'm glad you shed some light on the issue, don't want cheaters to ruin the game. Hopefully they don't last
good video, but a couple of things i wanted to say. 1. bots are extremely good for their purpose, pros have complained about fighting them in the top ranks, so yeah they live up to the sales pitch 2. macros for dodging are not really useful at all since brawlhalla gives a 4 frame window when using the dodge key, so even if the string is 1 frame, you dont actually have to press the dodge key within 1 frame. btw you should have touched on that elo bug a while back lol that was what i thought of when i saw this vid. there was a player that got like 3k elo using a glitch
Dang dude I really appreciate the insight I really wish I touched on more things in this video but I’m thankful for ppl like you that can clear it up for other people, legit means the world to me and I’ll look into that elo bug I’ve never heard of it before seems really interesting, much love 🫶
Yea the hold to dodge change is interesting and I can see the upsides to help input lag but I also think it will lower the skill gap, it’ll be interesting to see if it gets graduated to competitive
@@cerofr As a greatsword main and cannon enthusiast where we only have w true comboes as a whole, im telling you that this will make gameplay VERY predictable in the lower levels and VERY unforgiving in higher elo. My greatsword play is entirely off of dodgereads, but because the only true comboes that are easy to pull off are Slight (opener) Dlight(Bridge) and Dair Nair, literally everything else is dodgeable
yea its going to be VERY interesting to see how it pans out bc that could be a terrible thing or a great thing depending on how u look at it@@paolocompagni9952
We've gotten to a point where risking an injection for a decent game experience sounds reasonable in Brawlhalla, they're quick to ban useful tools but slow to fix the shitty 2D PNG fighting game that lags more than openworld 3d MMOS
There was an incident on Xbox for a few days where a DDOSer was booting everyone in the queue offline. So Xbox players basically couldn't play ranked for a few days, fortunately the Xbox account was eventually reported then terminated.
@@cerofr long ago ddoser was possible you had people just disconnect you from game than after that another ddos happend disconnect and reconnect and you cant rejoin (you cant exit bh and rejoin eather ) there was ddosing and whoever got fkt by it hope they somehow got pass it and never have to go vs it again
great video! i not only play brawl but i also do stuff like tarkov and other shooters and cheating between the two looks and feels very different. with a platformer or other games like that cheats are actually "replicatable" in the sense that if you just put enough time into the respected game you can learn to do the combo or space something properly and do it almost perfectly . with a shooter you can clearly (or atl east its more clear than a platformer) tell because people can't just naturally hit 100% of their shots or have the "gamers intuition" to just peak a certain obscure corner that you happen to be looking from. oh and 1 other thing, not every player who ends up being godlike at a game is a cheater tarkov has server wipes from time to time and sometimes a 50 hours gamer might come across a 2000 hour gamer and get rolled. works the same way with brawl. if ya placement matches just SUCK and you end up in a low bracket the climb isn't bad but its annoying to all other players cuz it feels like they are fighting a hacker. also you mentioned lag switching and DDos isn't really possible, i have some scary news, it is if the hacker has access to the players internet info. the chances of it happening is highly unlikely though cuz hacking a persons personal internet is a whole other can of worms that most low level hackers don't even consider attempting
Yea that’s the worst part about brawlhalla cheats is it is incredibly hard to detect but yea I wish I mentioned the fact that DDoSing could happen if the other person had your personal info, I really appreciate the comment and glad u enjoyed, much love ❤️
I always had this thought on my mind of what was the other guy doing? Why is he acting so unreal? And being salty said some are hacking but I absolutely did not know it was real all this time
I’ve heard about that but never heard a name or else I would’ve mentioned it, looks like these cheats are trying to replicate it, thank god it got banned tho, appreciate your comment bro
@@cerofr all good brother and happy new years too u nice video on the subject despite anti cheat clients people still manage to cheat in pvp games it makes little sense too me and at the same time it's disappointing
I think you could have easily bought the cheats, used a second account with a VPN from another computer and told something like it was an anonymous cheater who wansn't afraid to get banned but wanted anonimity or whatever. Or even played on private servers and tried pairing it up against a pro like Cosolix/Pavelski which I'm sure would be hungry for the content since it's such a inovative topic. The video however was really good, not saying it was bad, but it wasn't the best version it could have been! I would love a follow-up showing us the actual cheat if you could figure something out c:
Definitely bro my main problem with that is I also don’t want to shill money to a cheat developer, plus even with all those precautions I could still get banned based off just having the cheat but I definitely understand, I could’ve found a way to validate my suspicions, if I can get in contact with a cheater I’ll definitely make a follow-up video! Thank you for being so real bro, appreciate you ❤️
There were old hacks like this since 2020 i remember there was one that patched into a year and also these cheats suck and you can get detected by real players and BMG can easily patch this
I've only ever played against one player who I was a 100% convinced was cheating. We played 3 games of 2v2. He dodged every single interaction frame perfect. It was so consistent that the game kept rolling back me and my mate because he'd dodge faster than the network code could process properly. I thought he was very sus, but didn't think anyone would cheat in brawlhalla. Nope. Very same day some dude added me on discord to advertise a "perfect dodge script" that could dodge attacks just before you get hit. Since then I've encountered 2 or 3 guys that might've been using such scripts. Pretty sure they have a discord server.
yep it was probably a cheater its a lot more common then people think. also if u find the discord server let me know because i was looking everywhere to infiltrate one but couldnt find one, regardless tho tysm for sharing
@@cerofr Yea I blocked and reported him and I don't remember the name of the server, sorry. If you hang around brawlhalla discord servers you might be able to find someone who knows around the scene tho
I use a macro for small hops, it messes me up more than helps me so i barely use it. Also i just got knocked out of silver if you want to know my rank lmao.
@@cerofr I've been trying to learn the small hop inputs, but i struggle always mess up the jump input using both space and w, and then my brain turns off on the S. I can occasionally do it, but for consistency I use the macro even if not a lot.
no i get it that stuff takes lots of time make sure to input a dodge right as u hit the ground to get the hop, but of course itll come with practice, i wish u the best of luck @@FTWMFXD
About a year ago (on EU servers) there was a hacker called ''diamond denied''. They'd keep their elo around 1950 to lock peeps outta diamond. They won 2 times, but then I figured out their patterns and started clapping dem cheex. Hackers ARE beatable and in fact can ligma bAWllz
Idk man I reached plat and I know plat really ain't shit but I versed someone today where they dodged (perfectly) every single time. I didn't get a single hit on them. Not one single hit, I disconnected after losing 2 stocks cuz I was just mind blown at what I suppose to do to win that match lol
Nah plat is great bro but the thing that sucks is u can never tell if they’re just insane at the game or if they’re cheating, but I will say it is becoming more common, regardless good luck with your climb Diamond soon 😈
Good to know I wonder if it’s because the person had access to they’re personal internet, allowing them to hit them specifically offline, regardless tho appreciate your input
@@cerofr they hit people off threw the game server so they will pull the servers IP but when you pull the servers IP it gives you the IPS connected too the server so you will see you IPS and the other players IP and you can do this in seconds just buy using octo sniff or lance_remasterd
I beat a guy six times and it kept bouncing back into the game and not letting me win till I was teleported out of the ring on my last knock out of him tell me that’s not a cheat!
I think its always super important to inform people on things like this because I dont want people to be blind to it, of course ill never condone any form of cheating and i understand your point but keeping people in the dark is just as hurtful imo, but regardless I really appreciate your input
@@cerofr i understand your point bro i like your videos and im just asking myself if is just not better just ignore this small persent of people ho use cheat, but its ok good video
Im a console player till this day on ps4 it is stuck on 40fps while ps5 it is at 60fps. While on ps4 you would have to legit predict your opponents moves 3 second before they make that move so you can have a better chance of punishing the character after they whiff either on hammer or blasters im not joking its that bad. I switched to ps5 and i noticed i have less lag inputs i still have crazy dogde lag inputs but thats console for you. I never liked special k or having to need only for pc players to have a modify programming system to enhance your game only on pc is buck fuckin wild. Legit if that had happened on tekken 8 if only pc players have better frame data and less input lag the community would legit try to ban pc from tekken entirley. I honestly believe we lost alot player count due to special k like you legit need a handicap to be better at already shitty game. No wonder ppl in the FGC would NEVER claim brawlhalla fighting game or part of FGC to begin with.
Hope y'all enjoy! Lmk what videos you guys wanna see next. Happy new year!!
a great video after a great video, also not making your brawlhalla content e-sports focused makes every video feel like a fresh breath of air
Thank you so much man I’m definitely going away from the esports route and more the history route so I’m really glad you’re enjoying these videos, much love 🫶
SPEAKING ON CEATERS I just faced one. A Cheater of the D-DOS type. They literaly lagged to badly my game froze at points. I reported them but it's not as if BMG cares
They practicly endorse cheating.
With the whole "The report system is so effective! We have replied to 0 comments so far" thing. The game has 0 anticheat in a game based on elo. As I said endorsing cheating.
damn bro I’m so sorry that sucks and yea BMG isn’t the best at banning people 😭 hopefully that doesn’t happen again but I appreciate you sharing smmm, much love
the easiest way to tell if someone is a cheater is if they consistently do reverse weapon throws or chase dodges. they are useless and only happen when if done frame perfect.
ohhhh good to know i never peeped that but ill look out for it, appreciate you homie
reverse chase dodges? i mean recently there has been tecniques but it is not frame perfectt
I oddly see tons of possible lag switch users as i would be playing twos with my fruend and be perfectly fine for a few matches and then all of a sudden im red bars, and next game it fixes itself. Might be my wifi but I doubt it
Brawlhalla is super inconsistent the same thing happens to me I’d assume it’s probably your Wi-Fi especially when playing 2s u might be on your friends servers causing u to lag slightly more
4:20 new test feature makes it so all you gotta do is just hold dodge and it comes out on first frame of the next dodge window
I SAW THAT and idk how to feel I personally think it'll lower the skill gap which kinda sucks but also good if you have really bad input lag in game, kinda torn on it
Yeah but they said people usong the feature instead of actualy perfect dodging would have a little disadventage (or the other way around I can't remember)
lmao about a year ago there was also an infestation of players in rocket league using bots to cheat with a similar looking program. also based off injection. very interesting
Oh really??? That sounds crazy I’ll def check it out, appreciate you bro ❤️
I've met someone in ranked using one of these, pixel perfect attacks but awful movement and dodges
Such a great question and thought driving behind this video!! I was locked in from the very beginning.
I feel like the most basic cheats in Brawlhalla will fall into the same issue that many League of Legends cheats run in to... which is top players usually handle cheaters with little issues. IE scripting makes the LoL player move in a way thats unnatural but still punishable.
I feel like choosen bots are a close replica of what cheating would look like but its just never as strong as a actually skilled player
follow up if you use macros you are a loser B)
Thank you so much bro I’m glad you enjoyed, personally I agree cheating at its current state will only affect lower level players and using macros is the easiest way of saying u have a massive skill issue. Appreciate you lots boss can’t wait to see what you’re cooking up ❤️
I will say that ive encountered many cheaters using bots in ranked 1v1 and i can tell you its exactly like just fighting a chosen bot you know when they walk around forwards and backwards to the edge of the stage whilst waiting for you to respawn? Yeah thats exactly how you can tell theyre cheating
Right that’s what I figured but good to get confirmation, appreciate the info bro, much love ❤️
i do this for fun
Finally, someone made quite a presentable video on the topic. Nice work.
Thank you so much, means a lot to me 🫶
The Special-K incident was handled in a very mediocre way, on the one hand it made total sense to ban it, as in not banning it would be an admission by BMG of their game's poor optimization and also the high crash rate is very bad. On the other hand, when Foda came out and said they'll eventually implement Special-K's optimizations into the game, so that it would perform just as well, this was never done and this situation was not addressed again. What this means is, BH is essentially a pay-to-win game at the highest level, the player with the 360Hz monitor has a big advantage in an online tournament setting, because of the game's poor optimization, this becomes even more evident when we're talking about top-level players.
True I wish they followed through on their promise as I agree making people install a external program is honestly terrible for business but when u have massive advantages based on hardware it can be very annoying, so honestly I agree with u and hopefully one day they’ll follow through with their promise
brawlhalla is NOT pay to win, unless you consider EVERY game pay to win using that logic, ofcourse someone with worse wifi, worse Hz, worse FPS will have a less success rate compared to that said person with better wifi, better hz, better fps???? like what???
@@speedy2k116you just explained how it can be pay to win ?
thats not pay to win...every single game is like that. pay to win is IN GAME paying to win the game.@@Netflix_Kingbob
@@Netflix_Kingbob he explained how EVERY game could be pay to win with the hardware logic
My experience as an iron player seing "People" using frame perfect doges, perfect true combos every time they hit, and seemingly inhumanly quick weapon swapping- Yeah I don't belive for a second its ligit. The bots on brawlhalla are made to counter whatever lendend to you play to keep you from rising to quickly. And as you try to get back to gold for the 10th time- new iron players end up facing you and loosing. Causing them to also get stuck.
Yea it must be infuriating and in iron it could also be smurfs, regardless tho I hate to hear so many of you guys have to deal with these bots, I hope you can climb out soon bro
@@cerofr I mean even if my rank doesn't Increase I am still getting better and have a level 15 Kor and Valkov... As a mobile player on a phone :) never expected to get far as a mobile player on a small screen so all good ig 🤷♂️
Mobile is on general a janky platform, when I go to report someone (I am 99% sure the reports don't actualy get received) the typing is so scuffed and most messages look like this: Smurfin g and possibly cheating, unrealistic dodge timings for an iron player.
The issue with the report box is you can't delete text once there is at least a one space gap, the text is extremely laggy and near impossible to use. Quite likely to stop people from trying to use it.
Mobile needs matenince but nobody at bmg wants to.
I picked up the game just before loki was released- dark times for lower teirs.
Tho it always bothered me there was no 1v1 stock mode for non ranked. Feels like a first instinct for a platformer.
This game is more of a hobby but as someone who has played mobile games for years I can resist the attempts to force you to pay2win.
The one thing I can say is: for a mobile game, not having ads is an actual blessing.
im gonna say that those are absolutely things humans can achieve with about 50-100 hours of playtime for your average brawl player
I literally just opened the game and encountered 2 cheaters in a row and I'm glad other people are talking about this, trying to make it more "public" so more people are aware of this. Mine were honestly somewhat blatant to me as they simply had perfect "wake up" attacks and counter attacks and some nasty and sometimes also random dodges across the map while I attacked far from them. But I'm glad you also mentioned "Special K", cheating means having an unfair advantage and yes, having something EXTERNAL improving your game is indeed having an unfair advantage, even tho it "only" boosts the quality of the game, it's still cheating. Great video :)
thank you for making this video, it was much needed as i looked into this myself and couldn't find much. about the bots however, i remember boomie a few years ago getting beaten by a bot, and you could tell it was a bot because of how it played, if i find it i will send it here.
great video, you got yourself a sub!
Of course bro im super glad you enjoyed and id love to see that video if you find it, regardless I really appreciate you
@@cerofr here's the bot i remember looking at, it has a clip of boomie talking about bots but i couldn't find the video of him losing to one:
ruclips.net/video/wM1roKWL_jU/видео.html
also, this video from solarson, a pro player, analysing how he lost to a bot, showing it doing frame perfect actions:
ruclips.net/video/52c3122q_G8/видео.html
so yeah these bots are very much able to compete at the highest level
"Imagine cheating bro just learn the basic really it is not that hard my friend"
My quote
Words to live by and it’s way more fulfilling to do it naturally
Don't think I've ever ran into a cheater. Theres try hards (easy to spot) theres spammers (then theres good spammers) then theres the gawd damn one trick ponies that make that one trick of there's solid and all dodge routes for the victim (No longer work)
As a top 100 brawl player in NA I find it very funny whenever i queue a cheater (havent queued one since i made a video on it months ago) because what theyre doing will never be optimal at the highest level. The one I queued in that video had good movement and used a cheat to do what it considered the optimal punish frame perfectly, which sounds good on paper, until they find out that they are trying to optimally punish moves that are nowhere near them, leading to them getting punished. If you lack fundamentals to the point where you have to cheat in a platform fighter, you are not going to do well regardless of whether or not you are cheating.
Yea I figured as much especially if you are solely relying on a bot to do everything for u as I imagine it becomes super easy to punish/predict. I appreciate your input bc I honestly had no idea how they could stack up against top players like yourself, really appreciate the input 🫶
This video was really stimulating to watch and listen, also the informative value was pretty high too.
That actually means so much to me, thank you so much I’m glad you enjoyed
Ddossing def does happen. Mostly around 1900-2000 due to boosters and stuff. You can always tell when someone is doing it when they stand still or start moving just a little bit to not get hit while they take u out the game, then boom all of the sudden you have to connect to the server again.
hmmm ill have to do more research on it ik it can happen in very rare cases but everything i read said that DDOSSING was almost impossible due to the servers not being peer to peer, maybe if the DDOSer actually had the players info they could ddos their person internet
yea, im pretty sure its happened to pavelski a few times, and he’s usually 2600-2700
I once faced a guy that had 0% cool down on all his sigs and light attacks but that was once.... weird tho
thats extremely weird ive never heard of hacks that could do that ill look into it tho, appreciate your story boss
2k subs? Bro that was top tier keep up the good work
Ayyyy appreciate you so much bro, more coming in the near future ❤️
Im from Argentine and I play on the South American servers and it is full of cheaters (both in the ranked and in the experimental), 9 out of 10 rivals have cheats. Some are new players who don't know how to hide, it's so pathetic.
In this 2024 almost 2025, the arrival of cheats of all kinds increased in online video games, it is a plague.
This is great. I've actually come across users that have disabled the Report button so you can't report them. Dash always being on and Autododge are the biggies I've come across way too many times to count. Also it's usually an international player outside of the US that has these hacks on.
Only once I've come across an invincible player though.
Oh wow I’m gonna have to look into those type of cheats bc I had no idea those were even possible but tysm for the info and I’m glad you enjoyed boss
The cheating is Eric with his hotboxes and bummy patch notes
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Ay new video from the W, pure enjoyment bro you keep surprising me with this stuff
Ayyy im so glad you enjoyed I got so much more to show u in the future im so happy you’re loving them
these cheats can't harm no diamond even less elite players
In most cases I agree but there have been a few bots that have even given top players a run for their money but I think have since been banned thankfully
@@cerofr cheatin in brawl is down down bad
nah actually u have to be another kind of weird to cheat in brawl @@XezoNoric
@@cerofr ong 💀
Definitely a decent video. Do feel like the research was kinda “rushed” since dex bot at its peak had gotten the attention of pros as the users (before being exposed) were quite literally farming top 100 players in 24-2500. Pros had joined the discord server for the dex bot to play against it and really see the difference. Pros like Boomie & Ethan saw the difference between a human vs the bot pretty early and then ruled it easy to detect. There was so much information on it you just would have had to interview a few specific top players to get the FULL scope of it potential.
DDOSing was VERY possible and still is as players (who were some of the 1st banned players) such as, Doh & Serenade were known to ddos esp when they did it in tournament against noel (who spoke out about the situation which later got them banned)
I did enjoy the video and how clean the production is keep up the good work 🔥💯 I would even recommend taking up becoming a brawlhalla journalist of some sort. Good vid
I really appreciate you man and I won’t lie you’re totally right with the busyness of the holidays mixed with me also wanting to keep my consistency I rushed a bit of research in turn missing a few points. I really appreciate the info and trust me bro I also really appreciate the honesty my next video will be even better, thank you tons ❤️
@@cerofr Always brother 🙏🏾💯 , I definitely look forward to the next video keep it up 🐐
@CoachCosmic can’t wait to show u, appreciate u bein so real
@@cerofrnp man I definitely want to see you be at the top of the information space of brawlhalla.
That means a lot as i do too, this game means so much to me so hopefully that can happen as I want to see u at the top of the coaching space of brawlhalla, lets make 2024 great brother@@CoachCosmic
No lie, as soon as I opened RUclips I saw this video immediately after I just got done fighting someone that had a new account with a generated name. They didn't miss a single combo. It didn't matter where I was on the map, he was hitting me every single time. The only thing I could do was try to read his dodges to hit him, but even then he was still somehow reading me and countering. Just like a chosen bot would. It's sad, really.
Damn bro I’m so sorry to hear that, a lot of these cheats are becoming a lot more common it sucks so bad
@@cerofr Yeah.. it sucks. He invited me to a custom lobby so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I thought maybe he got lucky. I accepted the invite but I think that may have been my first real encounter with a cheater. There's not a doubt in my mind. I legit couldn't do anything against him. He was accurate with all of his attacks, with every single legend he used. I'm only Plat and I've fought many Diamonds that don't even fight the way he did.
Great video by the way! I'm glad you shed some light on the issue, don't want cheaters to ruin the game. Hopefully they don't last
Such a goated video! Love the unique ideas man 🐐
Thank you so much bro, glad you enjoyed 🫶
as someone who knows the creators sBot isn't supported anymore. They disappeared.
elitepvper isnt that good of a forum either.
Ayy I appreciate the info bro, very very helpful, much love ❤️
@@cerofr
good video, but a couple of things i wanted to say.
1. bots are extremely good for their purpose, pros have complained about fighting them in the top ranks, so yeah they live up to the sales pitch
2. macros for dodging are not really useful at all since brawlhalla gives a 4 frame window when using the dodge key, so even if the string is 1 frame, you dont actually have to press the dodge key within 1 frame.
btw you should have touched on that elo bug a while back lol that was what i thought of when i saw this vid. there was a player that got like 3k elo using a glitch
Dang dude I really appreciate the insight I really wish I touched on more things in this video but I’m thankful for ppl like you that can clear it up for other people, legit means the world to me and I’ll look into that elo bug I’ve never heard of it before seems really interesting, much love 🫶
@@cerofr love bro keep it up i fw the vids
The funny thing is that with the new experimental changes, a dodge macro is now less viable since you can just skip making one in the first place
Yea the hold to dodge change is interesting and I can see the upsides to help input lag but I also think it will lower the skill gap, it’ll be interesting to see if it gets graduated to competitive
@@cerofr As a greatsword main and cannon enthusiast where we only have w true comboes as a whole, im telling you that this will make gameplay VERY predictable in the lower levels and VERY unforgiving in higher elo. My greatsword play is entirely off of dodgereads, but because the only true comboes that are easy to pull off are Slight (opener) Dlight(Bridge) and Dair Nair, literally everything else is dodgeable
yea its going to be VERY interesting to see how it pans out bc that could be a terrible
thing or a great thing depending on how u look at it@@paolocompagni9952
We've gotten to a point where risking an injection for a decent game experience sounds reasonable in Brawlhalla, they're quick to ban useful tools but slow to fix the shitty 2D PNG fighting game that lags more than openworld 3d MMOS
Yea it’s really unfortunate I understand why they banned it but not fixing the lag afterwards sucks :/ hopefully in the future it’ll happen 🙏
video quality been amazing recently keep it going and been really entertaining too 🙏❤️
I’m so glad you’re enjoying them boss, much love ❤️
Solid video! Onwards and upwards for 2024!
I’m glad you enjoyed, so much more to come in 2024 have a great new year man
bmg has added an experimental update that allows players to frame perfect dodge with more ease as of last patch
yea i saw that and am honestly really hoping it doesnt make it outr of experimental it'll just lower the skill gap which is never good imo
There was an incident on Xbox for a few days where a DDOSer was booting everyone in the queue offline. So Xbox players basically couldn't play ranked for a few days, fortunately the Xbox account was eventually reported then terminated.
So DDOSing can but very rarely happen on console
Wait really?? I wish I knew about that, must be extremely rare but I’m glad it got sorted out quickly, really appreciate the info 🫶
@@cerofr i had to get a new router bc it fried lol
@@cerofr long ago ddoser was possible you had people just disconnect you from game than after that
another ddos happend
disconnect and reconnect and you cant rejoin (you cant exit bh and rejoin eather )
there was ddosing and whoever got fkt by it hope they somehow got pass it and never have to go vs it again
Thankfuly im so bad that i will never encounter a cheater in ranked
LOL trust me, me too bro, we'll climb together tho 🤝
great video! i not only play brawl but i also do stuff like tarkov and other shooters and cheating between the two looks and feels very different. with a platformer or other games like that cheats are actually "replicatable" in the sense that if you just put enough time into the respected game you can learn to do the combo or space something properly and do it almost perfectly . with a shooter you can clearly (or atl east its more clear than a platformer) tell because people can't just naturally hit 100% of their shots or have the "gamers intuition" to just peak a certain obscure corner that you happen to be looking from. oh and 1 other thing, not every player who ends up being godlike at a game is a cheater tarkov has server wipes from time to time and sometimes a 50 hours gamer might come across a 2000 hour gamer and get rolled. works the same way with brawl. if ya placement matches just SUCK and you end up in a low bracket the climb isn't bad but its annoying to all other players cuz it feels like they are fighting a hacker.
also you mentioned lag switching and DDos isn't really possible, i have some scary news, it is if the hacker has access to the players internet info. the chances of it happening is highly unlikely though cuz hacking a persons personal internet is a whole other can of worms that most low level hackers don't even consider attempting
Yea that’s the worst part about brawlhalla cheats is it is incredibly hard to detect but yea I wish I mentioned the fact that DDoSing could happen if the other person had your personal info, I really appreciate the comment and glad u enjoyed, much love ❤️
Thank you for other video cero, you and Vondakay oly say the true😁
Of course bro I’m so glad u enjoy it makes my day knowing y’all love these 🫶
Hold to dodge taking away the timing of dodges anyway😐😅 anyway great video
Yea very disappointing to hear I hope it doesn’t make it into competitive 😭 but regardless tysm bro means a lot
I always had this thought on my mind of what was the other guy doing? Why is he acting so unreal? And being salty said some are hacking but I absolutely did not know it was real all this time
Yea FR obviously some people are just extremely good but sometimes they could be using something else, sucks that it’s so hard to detect
There was this cheat which allowed frame perfect dodges for a while but it got banned
I’ve heard about that but never heard a name or else I would’ve mentioned it, looks like these cheats are trying to replicate it, thank god it got banned tho, appreciate your comment bro
And that is why I stopped ranked games all together nothing but cheat fcks
Yea I don’t understand why people can’t just play the game normally it’s much more rewarding doing we’ll legitimately, btw appreciate u watching
@@cerofr all good brother and happy new years too u nice video on the subject despite anti cheat clients people still manage to cheat in pvp games it makes little sense too me and at the same time it's disappointing
Great vid brooo!!!
Thank you so much boss glad u enjoyed :)
youre by far the most underrated brawl youtuber currently. keep up the amazing content man
I really appreciate that bro I got so much more coming, I’m glad you’re enjoying ❤️
I think you could have easily bought the cheats, used a second account with a VPN from another computer and told something like it was an anonymous cheater who wansn't afraid to get banned but wanted anonimity or whatever. Or even played on private servers and tried pairing it up against a pro like Cosolix/Pavelski which I'm sure would be hungry for the content since it's such a inovative topic. The video however was really good, not saying it was bad, but it wasn't the best version it could have been! I would love a follow-up showing us the actual cheat if you could figure something out c:
Definitely bro my main problem with that is I also don’t want to shill money to a cheat developer, plus even with all those precautions I could still get banned based off just having the cheat but I definitely understand, I could’ve found a way to validate my suspicions, if I can get in contact with a cheater I’ll definitely make a follow-up video! Thank you for being so real bro, appreciate you ❤️
There were old hacks like this since 2020 i remember there was one that patched into a year and also these cheats suck and you can get detected by real players and BMG can easily patch this
Yea I hope so recently they’ve gotten pretty decent tho so just wanted to inform people on the matter :)
I've only ever played against one player who I was a 100% convinced was cheating. We played 3 games of 2v2. He dodged every single interaction frame perfect. It was so consistent that the game kept rolling back me and my mate because he'd dodge faster than the network code could process properly. I thought he was very sus, but didn't think anyone would cheat in brawlhalla.
Nope. Very same day some dude added me on discord to advertise a "perfect dodge script" that could dodge attacks just before you get hit. Since then I've encountered 2 or 3 guys that might've been using such scripts. Pretty sure they have a discord server.
yep it was probably a cheater its a lot more common then people think. also if u find the discord server let me know because i was looking everywhere to infiltrate one but couldnt find one, regardless tho tysm for sharing
@@cerofr Yea I blocked and reported him and I don't remember the name of the server, sorry. If you hang around brawlhalla discord servers you might be able to find someone who knows around the scene tho
good screw that guy, and yea ill def ask around to see if people have any clue, appreciate you@@Sup3rlum
Wait this is real? Who would cheat in Brawlhalla, it just screams that you’re bad at the game
Yea it’s really odd 😭 but it is extremely real unfortunately
Macro is the most used cheat used in brawl
good to know, appreciate you
I use a macro for small hops, it messes me up more than helps me so i barely use it. Also i just got knocked out of silver if you want to know my rank lmao.
That’s very interesting thanks for the info bro you’ll get your rank back keep grinding ❤️
@@cerofr I've been trying to learn the small hop inputs, but i struggle always mess up the jump input using both space and w, and then my brain turns off on the S. I can occasionally do it, but for consistency I use the macro even if not a lot.
no i get it that stuff takes lots of time make sure to input a dodge right as u hit the ground to get the hop, but of course itll come with practice, i wish u the best of luck @@FTWMFXD
About a year ago (on EU servers) there was a hacker called ''diamond denied''.
They'd keep their elo around 1950 to lock peeps outta diamond.
They won 2 times, but then I figured out their patterns and started clapping dem cheex.
Hackers ARE beatable and in fact can ligma bAWllz
LOL that’s actually really interesting and yea I wish I mentioned more that bots def have patterns that can be abused also I’m glad u beat them hahaha
It was just like fighting any other passive player, once u crack their code it's over for them, not ez, but doable :)@@cerofr
Great video!
Thank you so much as always man glad u enjoyed
Idk man I reached plat and I know plat really ain't shit but I versed someone today where they dodged (perfectly) every single time. I didn't get a single hit on them. Not one single hit, I disconnected after losing 2 stocks cuz I was just mind blown at what I suppose to do to win that match lol
Nah plat is great bro but the thing that sucks is u can never tell if they’re just insane at the game or if they’re cheating, but I will say it is becoming more common, regardless good luck with your climb Diamond soon 😈
@@cerofr thanks
someone tell this guy about sbot being down
Oh?? Since when if u don’t mind me asking
@@cerofr3 months now I think
really well im glad hopefully it stays that way@@grapphy9573
5:21 lol one of my friends ddosed too 2700 lol it's definitely possible idk maybe you can only do it on Xbox
Good to know I wonder if it’s because the person had access to they’re personal internet, allowing them to hit them specifically offline, regardless tho appreciate your input
@@cerofr they hit people off threw the game server so they will pull the servers IP but when you pull the servers IP it gives you the IPS connected too the server so you will see you IPS and the other players IP and you can do this in seconds just buy using octo sniff or lance_remasterd
4 or maybe 5 years ago i versed one that destroyed aussie servers
really??? I had no idea they went back that far in time thats crazy
Funny thing about sBot is, it was a compete exitscam lol
Yeah only combo is legit
I beat a guy six times and it kept bouncing back into the game and not letting me win till I was teleported out of the ring on my last knock out of him tell me that’s not a cheat!
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Good eye sir
W vid brudda
Thank you so much bro glad u enjoyed 🫶
sbot is a scam btw
Good to know I read some comments that they wouldn’t refund ppl, Preciate the info boss
Only combo is legit
Great content
Thank you so much boss glad u enjoyed
Dlight dair on sword should be true😅
No 100% I just wanted to give an example of being able to dodge 1 frame every time
bro why are you publishing this? like no one knows about cheat in brawlhalla and now more people will be interessed to use
I think its always super important to inform people on things like this because I dont want people to be blind to it, of course ill never condone any form of cheating and i understand your point but keeping people in the dark is just as hurtful imo, but regardless I really appreciate your input
@@cerofr i understand your point bro i like your videos and im just asking myself if is just not better just ignore this small persent of people ho use cheat, but its ok good video
@@cerofr idk i think informing people will always cause more harm than good by calling attention to it but good video regardless
The ddosing part of the video is completely wrong
If they have the individual persons ip then it’s possible but ddossing through BMG servers is extremely unlikely
@@cerofr oh
@@cerofr nevermind then
its all good i shoulve clarified in the video, all love dude i hope you enjoyed
does special k still work?
It does for other gams but for brawlhalla it is bannable and if I’m not mistaken I think the program shut down completely
Im a console player till this day on ps4 it is stuck on 40fps while ps5 it is at 60fps. While on ps4 you would have to legit predict your opponents moves 3 second before they make that move so you can have a better chance of punishing the character after they whiff either on hammer or blasters im not joking its that bad. I switched to ps5 and i noticed i have less lag inputs i still have crazy dogde lag inputs but thats console for you. I never liked special k or having to need only for pc players to have a modify programming system to enhance your game only on pc is buck fuckin wild. Legit if that had happened on tekken 8 if only pc players have better frame data and less input lag the community would legit try to ban pc from tekken entirley. I honestly believe we lost alot player count due to special k like you legit need a handicap to be better at already shitty game. No wonder ppl in the FGC would NEVER claim brawlhalla fighting game or part of FGC to begin with.
i love this dudes videos
I love you
Nice vid
Preciate you boss im glad you enjoyed
@@cerofr which rank are u
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