Those who struggle with identities and sexualities should NEVER be attempted to be converted. They should never be hated, judged or ridiculed. They should be treated fairly like everyone else in the world. Conversions for gays should not exist, ever. You are, who you are. Be proud and accept who and what you are. Never let anyone take how and what you feel away from you.
I agree that everyone should embrace who they are to a certain extent. Not acting on every impulse that they have. Showing self restraint builds character.
I'm not saying this is for every Christian, but many of the older Christian's I know, got their tattoos before they became Christian's. So a lot of times, they got before they even knew about the Lord.
This is my exact point also! Literally there are so many rules in the bible that have almost been forgotten by 'strict' Christians. However *some* still have hatred towards the lgbtq+ community
I know some who got tattoos WHILE they're still Christian. And I think a part of the Bible is also against haircuts and I've been getting my hair cut for years.
@@harlowitter3060 yeah, it was like that. i remember a story where like some dude's long hair gave him power and when enemies cut it he didnt have power anymore.
safia kausar we are not ones to judge what is right or wrong. I understand what is said regarding sexuality in most religions. But they are just regular human beings like you and me.
This is how the pressure to be a man starts... At a young age when adults are telling you to man up and do all this "manly" things is overwhelming.. I don't understand why I can't just be myself
The pin up boy for Rugby League - Ian Roberts smashed every straight man he ever played against & even ended up signing for a team called the Manly Sea Eagles ... he came out in the 90s at the height of his career and was ostracised for it by some sectors of the sport but respected by teammates and competitors alike!!! Ian Roberts ... one of the Manliest Manly players to play!!!
You could be the “manliest”man in existence and still love the D. How would exercise and posture make anything but your back straight. I’m assuming I’ve caught a tame clip of what Is undoubtedly an upsetting movie.
I would be GETTING INTO IT WITH THEM DAILY. And I can be pretty butch. I’d be fighting back at them. And protecting all of my other camp mates who couldn’t protect themselves.
Being a man is being brave enough to be your true self A real man doesn't care what others think A man cares regardless of ones sexuality or gender identities A man stands up for what is right. If what society what considers a man to be someone " not afraid of anything" then why be afraid of being himself and why caring what others think I know this one person who loves feminine products and he is straight. In fact he is more of a man than those so call " therapist" because he doesn't care what others care, he be him,
Ive known at an early age i was different but really didnt know until my early teens that i liked boys instead of girls ive lived to hide it thank god i had good friends who helped me out will never forget them
I could barely sit through this scene. I have some good friends and people I look up to who are gay, and would do anything to protect them.
Comments like this make my heart soft
That's so sweet! You are amazing!
Oh sweetie this like the least horrible scene compared to the rest of the movie.
ISipFactsand_Tea • 15 years
O I know.
Those who struggle with identities and sexualities should NEVER be attempted to be converted. They should never be hated, judged or ridiculed. They should be treated fairly like everyone else in the world. Conversions for gays should not exist, ever. You are, who you are. Be proud and accept who and what you are. Never let anyone take how and what you feel away from you.
Be careful with what you say.
Bisexuals too
@@DonoZeek they are. Everything they said was true.
I agree that everyone should embrace who they are to a certain extent. Not acting on every impulse that they have. Showing self restraint builds character.
@@DonoZeek I’m bisexual so I know what I’m talking about. Troye Sivan and Miley Cyrus inspired me to come out, believe it or not.
I work out every single day, and that requires my stance to be in a "manly shape".
Still attracted to men.
Same bro, I do TKD, Muay Thai, BJJ, etc along with weightlifting and I am still(sorry for the analogy) gayer than a box of crayons.
TKD Skits and outtakes lmao same
Erick Perez, XD
I love this comment so much
No real man would ever do this stuff to defenceless and scared children.
But isn't having tattoos against gods wishes? Why do Christians pick and choose the parts of the bible they listen to
I'm not saying this is for every Christian, but many of the older Christian's I know, got their tattoos before they became Christian's. So a lot of times, they got before they even knew about the Lord.
@@nichill7474 what about earrings? lol
This is my exact point also! Literally there are so many rules in the bible that have almost been forgotten by 'strict' Christians. However *some* still have hatred towards the lgbtq+ community
I know some who got tattoos WHILE they're still Christian. And I think a part of the Bible is also against haircuts and I've been getting my hair cut for years.
@@harlowitter3060 yeah, it was like that. i remember a story where like some dude's long hair gave him power and when enemies cut it he didnt have power anymore.
The triangles scene cracked me up ......then i cried
Why is being a “man” or a “woman” so important when we should just be human beings?
Symbol Guy it's important to me
I'm gay and I love me some men
But seriously I'm joking it shouldn't matter
WHAT ABOUT NASCAR
Sofia Banuelos what?
Why is everyone gay nowadays its wrong, god put us on earth to love the opposite gender which is natural and right.
safia kausar we are not ones to judge what is right or wrong.
I understand what is said regarding sexuality in most religions.
But they are just regular human beings like you and me.
This is a very emotional movie, and it made me cry the first time I watched it, but can we appreciate the collective gasps when he hits the ball?
I'm straight. But what I do know is coming out is not losing your dignity. It's about regaining yours.
When your masculinity is so fragile that you have to make a camp
This is how the pressure to be a man starts... At a young age when adults are telling you to man up and do all this "manly" things is overwhelming.. I don't understand why I can't just be myself
The pin up boy for Rugby League - Ian Roberts smashed every straight man he ever played against & even ended up signing for a team called the Manly Sea Eagles ... he came out in the 90s at the height of his career and was ostracised for it by some sectors of the sport but respected by teammates and competitors alike!!!
Ian Roberts ... one of the Manliest Manly players to play!!!
You could be the “manliest”man in existence and still love the D. How would exercise and posture make anything but your back straight. I’m assuming I’ve caught a tame clip of what Is undoubtedly an upsetting movie.
it’s weird cause i’m masculine and im gay 😬
Wuuuuh? but that's not possible (btw that surprised pikachu in your pfp really brings up the sarcasm of my comment)
Lucky, sadly I give off really feminine vibes so I’m attacked for that
@@Danielpitt1467 don't be ashamed. we all have this manmade social construct around what kind of behavior we consider "manly"
Julia Hornback thanks sm, that really means a lot to me 🥺
Same here.
Great movie, it's a shame it went mostly unnoticed
Flea is such a good actor god damn I hope he is in more films
Bro, I noticed too. He's got a heart of gold 💛
This man has obviously never seen a triangle
😂
Lol
Flea did a job in this movie. His appearance took me by surprise. But hated his character.
I’m just imagining he song “I’ll make a man out of you” while they were working out 😂
Hahaha Mulan
I lowkey wanna go to a conversion camp just to be sassy to the counsellors 😂
I would be GETTING INTO IT WITH THEM DAILY. And I can be pretty butch. I’d be fighting back at them. And protecting all of my other camp mates who couldn’t protect themselves.
I haven't even been to conversion camp but I know you dont ever want to be there
What an immature thing to say. As someone that was forced to go to conservation therapy, trust me, you dont "lowkey wanna go".
I believe that if you don't like this persons sexuality, you don't do anything nor say anything about it.
That's true 👍 you don't have to believe their identity is real, but you still need to treat them like a human
IS THIS FLEA FROM RHCP ?!?!?!?
YESSSS !!!!
Dude I wish this movie was on a viewing platform of some sort I want to see it SO BAD but can’t find it anywhereeeee 😓😓
fatima huq It’s on Amazon Prime.
It's not even in the gay section on UK netflix
It's available for rent right here on RUclips.
This was an incredibly good movie, but it was sad too. I shed tears a few times.
It'd be interesting if John Eldridge (author of "Wild at heart") offered his 2 cents
Is that troye or am i trippin
jimins jammies it is lol
This is just sad ,to much pain 💔
As an lgbtq female, I’m following ‘how to be a rEaL man’ bc then I’ll make the stupid consolers mad 😂
that "god bless god bless" made me burst out laughing. i can't
The book made me cry
After seeing flea be homophobic I couldn’t take the movie seriously
It was nice of them to help him.
Yo... That's flea
That is like the most twisted and most hypocrite place one would ever put himself/herself in.
Being a man is being brave enough to be your true self
A real man doesn't care what others think
A man cares regardless of ones sexuality or gender identities
A man stands up for what is right.
If what society what considers a man to be someone " not afraid of anything" then why be afraid of being himself and why caring what others think
I know this one person who loves feminine products and he is straight. In fact he is more of a man than those so call " therapist" because he doesn't care what others care, he be him,
Ive known at an early age i was different but really didnt know until my early teens that i liked boys instead of girls ive lived to hide it thank god i had good friends who helped me out will never forget them
I love Flea! How did they get him?
ok but like isnt putting a bunch of boys in the same room like the gayest thing.
I'm just gonna go on record saying that I've met many "manly men" who aren't straight
Every person on earth should watch this movie. Even God was not perfect.
Joel Edgerton directed here too…pretty impressive…Flea wasn’t bad, but he probably shouldn’t quit his day job yet
Flea!!!!!
HYPOCRISY.. They talk about spirituality and demons they do not even know about spirits nor the spirit world and anything about it.
Atleast they're becoming physically fit❤
I know lots of men who have a manly shape -- and relish the same manly shape in the other men they desire.
I don't think most of those things they did here would make a different.
Do conversion camps still exist? If they do that’s scary because if I ever came out to my parents they’d send me to one 😰
yes, and if you're in the US (like this movie's setting, and me) it is legal in 32 states because republicans suck
They exist, some are even on other countries.
Marquis de Lafayette It’s only illegal for teens in those states. It’s legal to do to Adults in all states.
I’m so grateful that this wasn’t my life. I sincerely would’ve probably killed myself if I were put in this situation.
Im straight but what the hell my thumbs are forward when I put my hands on my hips😂
I'm straight and I sucked at baseball.
Under the bridge downtowwnnnnn
Troye Sivan 😍
Is one of them a transgender man? They called him “sir” and he doesn’t exactly pass
i THOughT tATtoOS wERE a siN
Crazy theists
Those poor kids 😢
Religion is evil I'm glad I left it and can think for myself now
my dad be like
Actually looks fun
Billy 1 excuse me. People suffered in those places.
Dont lisen to they lies
Well to answer that
I have no answer
I just wand to sound smart
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