★ 4K 🇨🇭 Luzern - Seetal - Lenzburg cab ride, Switzerland [02.2020]
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- Welcome to the first Seetal Cab ride on youtube in this direction. This is a unique line in many ways. For starters, the line is constructed much like that of a tramway, with many intersections without barriers and reduced clearance for standard rolling stock due to the close proximity of the road. Usually tramways of this caliber feature light rolling stock. The Seetal railway however, was run with the normal heavy, standard gauge rolling stock of the SBB, including Ae 6/6 locomotives for freight, Rbe 4/4 motor coaches, De 4/4s & the specially produced De 6/6. These do not have the braking capacity of their lighter, narrow gauge counterparts, which poses a risk when crossing intersections without barriers.
During the past 30 years, many changes have been made to improve safety, including a massive reduction in crossings, installed barriers and the rerouting of the line at certain points. Beforehand there were over 500 crossings without barriers or warning lights. In 2009, the number could be reduced to 85, all fitted with a warning system, many with barriers.
Moving the entire track or fitting each crossing with barriers would have meant the end for this line due to the high costs involved, keeping in mind that it has never been profitable since it's conception in 1882. Closing the line in favour of a bus service has been debated in the past, notably in the 1950's and again in the early 90's due the safety concerns. Thankfully though, the line has been preserved and solutions were found.
Over the years, locomotives, wagons and trains have also been specially produced and adapted for use on the Seetal line. Notable examples are the De 6/6 Seetal crocodile locomotive, the reflective yellow strips used on many locomotives to warn cars and the more recently produced RABe 520, which we are riding in today, produced with a narrower body than standard SBB stock, to avoid the strafing of cars.
Freight traffic is also a very interesting part of the history of the railway. There still is occasional traffic from Hochdorf in the direction of Lucerne, where the clearance for standard trains is given. Unfortunately local freight traffic has been declining nationwide, especially in areas where only small amounts of freight were being transported. A search for "Seetal SBB" on google image search will produce some interesting photos of how things used to be.
And now, enjoy the ride on this historic railway!
The same line in the other direction: • ★ 4K 🇨🇭Lenzburg - Seet...
Stations and links to other videos:
0:00 Preview
1:03 Map
1:35 Info screen
1:47 Luzern
4:25 Gütsch junction
5:09 To Wolhusen - Langenthal: • ★ 🇨🇭Cab ride Luzern - ...
5:18 To Zug - Luzern: Video coming. From Thalwil: • ★ 🇨🇭Cab ride Thalwil -...
6:15 Emmenbrücke
6:25 Original line from Waldibrücke to Emmenbrücke: • Seetalbahn Mai 1998 Wa...
8:15 Emmenbrücke Gersag
10:05 To Zofingen - Bern: • ★ Autumn cab ride Roth... Video to Olten coming.
12:39 Waldibrücke
17:25 Eschenbach
21:10 Ballwil
24:05 Hochdorf Schönau
26:01 Hochdorf
29:37 Baldegg Kloster
31:03 Baldegg
35:55 Gelfingen
38:35 Hitzkirch
41:17 Ermensee
44:30 Mosen
48:00 Beinwil am See
54:00 Birrwil
59:45 Boniswil
1:02:25 Hallwil
1:06:40 Seon
1:15:30 Lenzburg
Please note, you won't be hearing the usual beeps because the audio was recorded from the rear cab. This contributes to an overall quieter ride. Also, not all gradient information was available, so not every gradient is indicated during the video.
Intermediate stops have been left unedited. Skip if desired.
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Min. 1:14:46 Ehemalige Linie nach Lenzburg Stadt - Wildegg ist falsch
Die Abzweigung nach Lenzburg Stadt-Wildegg ging nicht
dort weg, erst nach dem Niveauübergang
Min. 1:15:35 Genau hier nach dem Niveauübergang der Strasse nach
Hunzenschwil befand sich die Weiche der Spitzkehre nach
Lenzburg Stadt - Wildegg
Hi everybody. A quick correction. The former line to Wildegg did not branch off at 1:14:46 as stated in the video, rather at 1:15:35
where is link for 49:46?
@@leonpano I can't find either!
Switzerland is definitely one of the most beautiful countries in the world....I envy your job as a train driver. :)
NO TRASH ---- IT was like that in 1971 when I traveled over Switzerland. USA has road trash every where.
@@JamesMcCutcheon Agreed cleanliness is a big thing for me as well...too bad the US doesn't have the same high standards.
A magical journey on a wonderful rail corridor,To the good people of switzerland please preserve this rail line forever it's a one of a kind cheer's bob.
Супер классное путешествие! 🙏💕Спасибо огромное за красоты природы!!!
Да никакой природы возле ж.д .нет . . .
What a sparkling day! A great way to ‘soak up’ the countryside and feel momentarily that I am immersed in the calm, clear light. Thank you for the chance to ride along.
thank you for this 🙏 I am off school ill today and your videos always cheer me up
I have been to Zurich. I loved Switzerland! I love train rides but only took the train from the airport to downtown. Next time I want a real train ride through the country.
I love to watch the train as it passes over switch tracks. I try to guess which track its going to switch to before it gets there. Lots of fun! 🤓
I do the same thing!!! I am mesmerized by watching the layout of the tracks and the switches. I loved to guess which track the train would turn onto but eventually learned to see certain things about the switches and saw I could always predict correctly. Watching the switch tracks is just as enjoyable as watching the scenery!
@@mikelastname1220 always afraid watching the train going over a turnout or switch when we meet another train !
Super Video. Als ich das erste Mal im Seetal in Instruktion war, sagte man mir: vergiss was du über Eisenbahn weisst, im Seetal ist ALLES anders
🤣
Noch ne Korrektur/Anmerkung: in der Beschreibung steht, dass es nur noch vereinzelt Güterverkehr zwischen HO und LZ gibt: Es verkehrt jedoch noch täglich (am frühen Nami wenn ich es richtig im Kopf habe) der ‚Waldibrüggler‘ nach WAB um danach im Anschlussgleis der alten Trassee eine Recyclingfirma anzusteuern
@@628s-chanf7 dort wurden früher viele Ae 6/6 auseinander genommen
Lorirocks777 a toujours de superbes images 4 K à nous proposer pour un réseau ferroviaire Suisse hors du commun . Mille mercis et salutations de la France .
Merci bien et salutations
This is the second best place in Switzerland after Montreux.❤️❤️❤️
I miss the charming Swiss train journey so much.
I definitely want to visit again.🙂
Greetings my name is Jeff Evans I live in a suburb called Rosebud which is south of Melbourne on Port Phillip Bay Australia I’ve been to Switzerland twice in the past I love to go back again tomorrow but I’m very tired had a pensioner now so it’s a little bit out of my finances but I just wanted to comment on your cameras they’re absolutely superb they suit me down to the ground I’m home not well at the moment so I’m thoroughly enjoying them keep up the good work sir yours Jeff Evans
Hi Jeff, nice to "meet" you. Glad you enjoy the videos. I've been to Melbourne twice too.
I hope you'll be well again soon. Take care!
Definitely another terrific train ride. Always love the scenic rides through spectacular scenery.
Thank you!
If I lived in the Seetal I would surely have called in sick to work on a spectacular day like that In the typically gloomy month of February! Nice ride! 😎
Bin auch gerade in die Schweiz gezogen. Habe Deutschland den Rücken gekehrt.Jetzt heißt es nur noch genießen meine gute Rente mit 60.Möchte auch nicht mehr tauschen.Die Menschen sehr freundlich. Einfach nur super.
Cool video, keep shooting
Oh I love the Seetal line/route!!! I have actually ridden it many times in the 1980's, they have done major changes since then!!
Magnifique train citadin et rural à la fois .
Für mich natürlich DIE Bahnlinie, bin schliesslich im Seetal aufgewachsen. Meinrad Signer, Kleefeld MB, CANADA.
Excellent! Loved the road side tramway sections.
so beautiful video
💐♥🌷🌷🌼💚🌿🌴
Wunderschön - ich bin Wildegg direkt an der Bahnlinie aufgewachsen und habe ein paar Jahre "z'Länzbig" gelebt. Der alte Seetaler war somit ein Teil meiner Jugend, früher noch mit den offenen Übergängen zwischen den Wagen und dem sagenhaften roten Seetalerkrokodil. Die neue Strecke haben ich nun mit diesem Video kennengelernt und erkenne noch das eine oder andere Sujet. Wildegg-Niederlenz-Lenzburg-Stadt ist natürlich längst Geschichte. Ich hoffe es gibt davon noch irgendwo Aufnahmen.
Спасибо. Было интересно "проехаться" 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃 по маленьким швейцарским городкам и деревенькам! 😍
Меня возмети с собой?
Super ride!Thanks for the video!
thank you for this fine rail journey . we liked the train style .
Wow such luscious greenery and wonderful looking homes. What I find most unusual is I don't see any traffic issues or have noticed any traffic lights. The United States has a lot of that because we so heavily populated, seeing every mile you go either a supermarket, a convenience store or a fast food restaurant and a great deal of hustle and bustle and especially a great deal of crime here. Over there it looks so like country living but unless you have a car it looks like unless I'm missing something you would have to travel far to go shopping ( supermarket wise) never even see a fast food restaurant anywhere, just very peaceful living for a retired person who doesn't drive anymore I would think living there would be rather difficult. Even on that stretch of road I never even saw a city bus. Just on occasion some cars going to and fro. I must say living here in the USA isn't all that good because of crime and big city living, but where I live I do see and ride a city bus or get handicap service. As much as I love the scenery I think I would have a difficult time living there.
Living here is not difficult. Towns and villages are very centralised, meaning the most people can walk to the post office, grocery store or school. Public transport is very reliable and takes you basically anywhere you'd like to go. Cars are more of a luxary here than a necessity, except for those who live in houses away from it all.
Schöne Aufnahmen und Fahrt und das alles bei sehr gutem Wetter👍🙂
Thank you for sharing the cab ride. Last year I took S9 from Lenzburg to Luzern monthly.
Absolutely fantastic! What an awesome journey!
Thanks!
dear lorirocks777 ! thank you very much !♥
Great video, nice scenery and good weather.
i really like to visit and live for a while in Switzerland😎
thanks for sharing this footage🙏💜
thanks for uploading...very nice video
I love all the side of the road running, it's like some of the smaller Japanese intercity routes. Maybe this is what the electric interurban railways in US would look like if any of them survived to today.
Fajnie jest zobaczyc to samo jeszcze raz widoki za oknem nostalgia choc mam to samo w POLSCE . Ale zawsze razem z zona
Awesome my friend, greetings from Brazil.
Love the ride, Thank You.
Very.nice and pleasant train ride in the countryside of the cantons of Luzern and Aargau under a blue autumn sky.
Alcuni passaggi sulla strada sono da brivido! 😁👌
That was an amazing ride!
Thank you for nice trip))
Amazing cabview!! Like!
That a great video! Hopefully someday I'll be able to ride that train.
Rute perjalanannya seru banget. Melewati banyak pinggir jalan raya... Pemandangannya juga sangat bagus...
Woww amazing scenes 👍👍
Дякую за цікаву ,,подорож,, по казковій Швейцарії! 🍁🍃🍂Super video! Thank you! 👍
wunderschön, wie immer lori.........................Daumen hoch !
Greetings from St. Petersburg Russia, thanks for the great video. Good luck and prosperity to your channel👋
Very nice , great success for video 😊
Great scenes! Danke für hochladen!
I love the agricultural buildings.
Hallo lorirocks - tolles Video aus dem Seetal - unglaublich wieviele Bahnübergänge es hier gibt (bei 100 habe ich mit dem Zählen aufgehört)! Herzlichen Dank für die gemütliche Fahrt - Gruss Remo
😆 Ja, wenn man denkt dass ursprünglich über 500 unbewachten Bahnübergangen gab und dass man Güterzüge mit Normalspurige Loks fuhr (Ae 6/6) ist es schon ein Wunder dass nicht mehr passiert ist.
Danke für den netten Kommentar wie immer.
Liebe Grüsse
Good luck👍👍👍
Great video. Switzerland is such a beautiful country & they have a great railway system. :-)
Thanks!
prachtig!! ik heb er van genoten!! alweer een opname voor te bewaren voor opnieuw te bekijken!!!
bedank voor de mooie opname!!!en de groeten JULIEN
Very nice train video💛
Ausgezeichnet wie immer.
Très belle vidéo d’une ligne secondaire Suisse
Très long kilométrage en voie unique Dans un parcours assez bucolique
Ce qui me surprend toujours c’est les longues distances ou la route et le rail sont côte à côte sans réelle séparation physique. Assez surprenant pour un français
Merci Lorirocks
Merci bien!
Sehr schöne Fahrt.
Thank you for another beautiful video (I think you did one a year or so ago of this line in the opposite direction, from Lenzburg to Luzern). Beinwil am See looks like an interesting little town to visit.
You're welcome. That's right. This was filmed on the same day.
Very nice video!
Que de bons souvenirs,j'ai habite 13 ans la frontière Suisse et nous y allions 2 fois par semaine, c'est beau ultra propre,les gens sont sympas contrairement aux Savoyards qui sont infectes
Very Nice !
а чо прикольно среди дамов среди горада поезд ходит классная идея👍🏻😉🇰🇿
Super Mitfahrt Daumen ganz weit nach Oben
Danke sehr
This is awsome !
Super Schönes Video. Ich wohne in Hochdorf und fahre jeden Tag mit der S9 von Hochdorf nach Luzern und von da mit der S5 nach Kriens, Mattenhof zur Arbeit.
Grüsse aus Hochdorf im Kanton Luzern in der Schweiz.
😀👍
Vielen Dank und liebe Grüsse aus Basel
@@lorirocks777 Danke 😀👍
Wow...pedestrians actually stand and wait for crossing gates to go up. 24:52 Pretty much unheard of throughout the rest of the world.
Where I live in Australia pedestrian gates beside a level crossing close and lock as the booms descend, and open when the booms go up.
Thanks for sharing this underappreciated line! If I may amplify what has been said elsewhere, the original passenger route at Waldibrücke followed the roadway closely all the way and joined the current line at the Lenzburg end of the station - there is cabride footage on YT from the final days of the original passenger route clearly showing this and also showing the construction of the s-curve that currently connects to the Luzern end of the station.
Thereapart, do you happen to know why Gersag station appears to be dimensioned for long distance traffic? Were they anticipating international conferences? Thanks again \m/
Hey, this train goes through a city with the same name as my hometown. Emmen
If using tour rolling stock on this route with opening windows. Do they have to lock the windows shut? It would take a lot of yard brushes (ala RhB practice for close clearances) to make sure no one lost their head.
красота))))😊
God I want to live in Switzerland! 👍🙂💜
59:24 At the barn/workshop on the right I think I can see what looks like the first version of a Danish electric vehicle called the Ellert. Or are they just very good copies?
Very nice ride through your beautiful scenery btw.
Nice videos
Danke fürs produzieren sowie hochladen! Weiss jemand wie man betrieblich (2 Lokführer?) die Spitzkehre in Emmenbrücke anging?
Die Fahrten von ca. 200 m im Bahnhofsgelände von Emmenbrücke von und zur Spitzkehre fuhr der Lokführer jeweils rückwärts. Im anderen Führerstand winkte der Kondukteur mit einem weissen Tuch aus dem Fenster. Im Bahnhof Emmenbrücke wechselte dann der Lokführer den Führerstand. Ich hatte dieses Prozedere im 1991 gefilmt.
Suíça linda 🇨🇭🌻🌼
schöne Strecke !! Was mich ja interessieren würde wäre, ob es Nachts viel schwieriger ist durch diese Städte zu fahren, und wie die Unfallzahlen oder wieviele Beinahunfälle es gibt.
Красиво 👍
Vielen Dank dafür. Darf ich auf einen klitzekleinen Fehler hinweisen? In 1:14:46 wird eingeblendet "Ehemalige Linie nach …" Dieser Schriftzug gehört meiner Meinung nach in den Moment 1:15:35, unmittelbar hinter dem Bahnübergang sieht man auf der rechten Seite ein Mäuerchen, dass die ehemalige Bahnlinie begrenzt hat.
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Thanks for sharing. May I point out one tiny little mistake? At 1:14:46, "Former line to ..." is inserted. In my opinion, this text belongs at 1:15:35, immediately behind the level crossing you can see a small wall on the right that bordered the former railway line.
Ach so, danke. Ich war nicht sicher wo genau die alte Strecke weiterging.
Bin ich doch nicht der Einzige, dem das aufgefallen ist ... 😁
In den achtzigern war ich mal unterwegs nach beromünster der Zug setzte sich zuerst Richtung lenzburg in Bewegung leicht aufwärts um dann mittels Spitzkehre weiter aufwärts hinter dem Bahnhofsgebäude Richtung menziken zu fahren war sehr speziell
Is there a reason for the mix of colour light and tramway signals?
At Seon the train took the left-hand track without a signal in advance. Was that a diverging point indicator next to the point motor ?
Hi, I was wondering if there were any Tessin routes planned, since the Ceneri basis tunnel has recently opened
Yes, the Ceneri has been filmed
Вот это дааа ,поезда в городе ,но и дела .
Amazing & love from pakistan ❤👍
Great ride! can you explain "with a narrower body than standard SBB stock, to avoid the strafing of cars." a bit more? Straffing with what... ice in winter or are we talking about something else?
Because the railway and road are so close, trains take up some space on the edge of the road. So narrower trains were developed prevent accidental scraping between the two.
For example, when cars are standing, inexperienced drivers may not have left enough room for the train.
@@lorirocks777 Ah I see - thanks.
Let's go.
Ein tolles Video, danke. Ich glaube die Strecke hält den Weltrekord mit den meisten unbeschrankten Übergängen ?
Früher ging die Strecke am Anfang noch durch Emmen , dort alleine hatte es viele unbewachte Übergänge. Und Emmen ist bekannt für Nebel . Da hat’s fast jeden Monat mindestens einmal gekracht
0:18:02 Swiss military? Navy?
0:24:30 For a moment I thought that driver was going to gun it in an effort to get past the gates.
1:01:34 That looks like a crossbuck out on the road to the left of the lamppost. A remnant of the original route through this area?
The lack of protective fencing between road-and-rail along much of this line is amazing. The we-must-be-protected-from-everything-that-might-hurt-us crowd here in the United States would be up in arms over the situation. Claiming it's only a matter of time before either a car/truck hits a train or a train hits a car/truck, those folks wouldn't shut up until fencing was up along the entire route--whether it were needed it not.
I do seem to remember "riding" this line in the opposite direction, lorirocks (the track relocation away from the highway rings a bell). Thanks for the information in your description, it helps out those of us completely unfamiliar with Swiss railway history/operations.
@ 18:02 yes swiss military, but not Navy, its the artillery. They call it the "Tenue A" which is the "Ausgänger" which in english means like "outputs". The perret colour tells you which troops he is
I imagine that here in the US there would likely be fatalities every week on a rail line like this until those fences you mention went up. Maybe we're just dumber than the Swiss on average?
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 There is the possibility that a train operating on this Swiss rail line could jump-the-track/derail and crash into highway traffic. Were such to happen, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that a chain link or wire fence will provide zero protection for any highway vehicles.
More likely is that a driver will lose control of his/her vehicle and crash into a train operating along the tracks. The crash could be due to, say, a tire blowing out. Maybe a fence would shield the railway right-of-way from a wayward car; far less likely if a heavy truck is involved. Were such an accident as just described to take place here in the United States, my bet for the cause would be on the driver stupidly operating the vehicle in an aggressive/reckless manner. And our bubble-wrap people would want the fencing so as to "protect" themselves from themselves.
I remember when Amtrak resurrected the old New York Central Railroad West Side Line in Manhattan back in the early 1990s so as to access Pennsylvania Station and provide better connecting service. The railroad constructed a heavy, chain link fence on both sides of the right-of-way to prevent trespassers, as well as erecting pedestrian overpasses for local residents. Of course, it was only a matter of time before a young child was struck and killed by a passing train. How did the kid get on the tracks? He went through one of the holes that were deliberately cut in the fencing as a means of providing a short-cut alternative to using one of the pedestrian overpasses. Seems that at least some of the locals were more concerned with convenience than they were with safety. As you said, plenty of stupid people here in America.
@@Xavier_stepson Doesn't this come from the Swiss German expression "in den Ausgang gehen", meaning "to go out"? So I imagine this is the uniform for "going out" in public on leave etc.
@@bikerpaul68 Yeah, you are right.
Fun fact, nobody likes the design and want a new one. But the military doesnt care...
A big media goup habe asked designers to draw a new one and the y looked way better. But we still need to wesr this old fashioned grey one...
Love your videos, but a question on all of them. The arrow with numbers in metres. Is that above sea level indicated?
Thanks. Yes, as displayed on the info screen after the map.
@@lorirocks777 Thank you. Your videos are about the only way I can get back to Switzerland at present.
Hi, I'm a train driver for Eurotunnel. What camera do you use and what settings do you have it on as your footage is so clear and smooth. Thanks.
Nice to meet you. Just a GoPro 8 on 4k60p, but for lowlight situations I'd recommend something with a larger sensor.
Let me know if you want to collaborate.
Ich bin begeistert. Wieder eine schöne und entspannte Reise. Wie heißen die beiden Seen entlang der Strecke? Danke für's Hochladen und Mitnehmen ☺💕
Der erste links ist der Baldeggersee, der zweite rechts der Hallwilersee. Zwei Überbleibsel der letzten Eiszeit.
@@LifeforArt Ahja, vielen herzlichen Dank 🙂👍
Hallo lokirocks777,
schönes Video!
Allerdings stimmt die Angabe bei 6:25 nicht. Die alte Linie von Beinwiel kam von rechts und zwar in Fahrtrichtung nach dem Bahnhof Emmenbrücke in etwa dort wo rechts der Parkplatz ist (etwa zur Minute 7:32). Sieht man auch sehr schön in der alten Aufnahme von 1998. Die Signalbrücke stand 1998 auch schon da...
Gruß
Patrick
Danke für den Hinweis
An interesting 3-car bus at 5:31-5:36 and at 5:41 in the opposite direction! Is it common in Luzern? Another great video though.
Yes, they are common there
😎👍
I noticed in the shadows something swinging in and out at the front of the train at certain stops? Is it a mirror? Why does it do that?
It is retractable and automatically retracts at a certain speed.
The dislikes are from the people who live besides the track in Luzern and Emmenbrücke. The houses are sometimes awfully close to the track, especially in Luzern.
Beautifull video , as usual!!!
Thank you .
They should ban the selling of spray can paint in town , it's only there that you see graffiti , as soon as you got out of Zurich there was no more ...
At around 14:00 no doubt you have to be careful crossing the road at a pedestrian crossing. I wonder what the rules are for a divided road for motorists that have to stop at crossing.
At the start of the video and may be 10 min in or so, Whats the Numbers like up 55 and than down 25 on top right corner of the cab window?
See 1:35. They are a promille value, which is a tenth of a percent.
Thank You I missed that@@lorirocks777
Hallo, nur eine kleine Anmerkung
Der ehemalige Abzweig nach Wildegg ist bei 1:15:36 entlang der Mauer rechts im Bild
Grüsse und danke für's hochladen
Danke für die Korrektur