Philips CD618 CD Player repairs - CDM4 drawer gear wheel replacement
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- This 1991 Philips CD618 has a problem that is typical for CD players based on the CDM4 mechanism: The gear of a plastic wheel for opening and closing the drawer is broken. Here is how to fix this problem.
The CDM4 mechanism was also used in CD players by Marantz, Technics, Rotel, ...
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Even though this was probably a budget/mid range Philips player from back then it is still much, much better built than any CD player made today. I have two CD players that are used almost every day, a Yamaha from around the same time period and a late 80s Technics. The Technics is solid, very heavy and superbly well built and even manages to read CD-R discs and CD-RW discs too even though they weren't invented when it was made. It is also using the same loading belt from when it was new, never had to replace it unlike the belts in cassette players and my Yamaha CD Player's loading belt.
Definitely agree . A lot of manufacturers cut costs in the 1990s . But this player is great
The CDM series it the finest of laser pick-up design; the CDM-1 is built to last forever, all metal, excellent piece of design. The CDM-4 is a later cost saving version with some pieces made of hard plastic, but the swing arm is still high quality. Very durable pick-up, virtually no maintenance required throughout all of its life. As for access speed, CDM were not that fast due to the mass of the pickup and the counterweight which tended to overshoot in case of wide and fast movements. Philips itself abandoned the swing arm with the last of the line CDM-9 in 1995 and started using linear pick-up with the (cheap) series of CDM-12. Beside costs reason (swing arm are quite expensive), it was not possible to use swing arm in CD-ROM, they were too slow for the random access of a data player.
It was CDM12.4 I think the last time I work in the service sector.
So great to find a RUclips creator who specializes in these classic stereo components. Great stuff
My CD604 had this exact issue. Very helpful and to-the-point video. Thanks a lot for sharing
I've had a unit "stored" on my shelf for the last 3 years waiting for this video to be made. I had no idea a spare gear was avaliable. The original gear in my unit crumbled!
I'm glad this video helped to save your CD player :)
Thanks for this video; it was very helpful getting my CD618 back to working order The original plastic wheel in mine was so rotten, it pretty much crumbled in my hands after I had removed it!
I am glad this video was useful :)
Thanks for the video. It helped me fix my Philips CD634 that I've owned since 1991. Had not it used for many years, and was unpleasantly surprised to find the plastic wheel rotten. Now it's working perfectly!
I am glad this video was helpful :)
However.... That is some quality you do not see today anymore.... Amazing that no plastic was "cooked" and brittle
Ummm... the plastic of the gear wheel was VERY brittle ;)
I was biting my finger nails when you bent the plastic to fit the gear :)
The chassis plastic actually was okay, in very good condition. Though thinking about it, maybe I should have been a little more careful in case it wasn't...
Thank you! I just fixed my Philips CD 610, here in Brazil!
CDM4 Hover-Laser, Technics, Philips.. These Lasermodels sounds really good. Had these over years.
I had a portable Magnavox cd player that had the same mechanism. It was built like a tank and very high quality.
very impressive that 1991 cd player is be able to play CD-RW
Designer: "How many plastic do you want?" Philips: "Yes".
A lot of manufacturers cut costs in the 90s not just Philips . Sony Sanyo matsushita
Yes these are great players for playing back CD & CDR discs those CDM4 pick up mechanism are some of the best even now in 2021
Thanks for the video! Just ordered a CDM4 gear wheel and hopefully will fit it to my misbehaving CD604!
I am glad this video was helpful :)
I have a CD610 mk2, and a CD634. Great machines. I also have a Marantz CD52 SE mk2, and three German made Technics players which all use the reliable CDM4/19 mech. Thanks for the video. Hello from the UK! I think a lot of 'Japanese' CD players were made in the EU to avoid import duty. These Philips Machines may be 'plasticy' but it's a very strong, low resonance construction.
Philips used the TDA1541 DAC a lot and that thing sounded smooth. It was so good that chinese companies started plagiarising it 😂
Very helpful video, fixed my CD614 yesterday, finally!
I'm glad this video was helpful! :)
Thanks for the video . Replaced the pieces for mine and everything is working nicely now
Got a player magnavox branded version(usa) from 1986 and i am impressed it can read a cdrw disc as well and play it back
With Philips transport, no need headache of focus alignment as oppose to Sony KSS laser head. Just replace the transport. Very tech friendly. We like.
Always fun to watch! I try to fix electronics as well but have poor skills- I learn by watching however
Someone keeps knocking at your door, let them in! 😄
Beautifully described. Now to fix my CD850
Good Luck!
@@DrCassette and the repair went seamlessly and only took 20 mins. Tricky to get new wheel in as it appears too big but levering the plastic gently allows it to snap into place.
Onyah!
Majestic Plastic ,,,,,,if every 1991 VW or Merc was as good as Philips Cd players they both would have been out of business 🙂
Beautiful job. So really is worth repairing these units. I have just bought a Denon that apparently has a lazy door so may need to do this. Still love CD sound rather than mp3 what we are used to now. Thanks for posting 👍😊
The only applies to CD players with CDM4 mechanism, those are mostly Philips, Marantz and Technics. Not sure if Denon used the CDM4 mechanism.
@@DrCassette 👍 ok. I have subscribed. I may need more advice in future. Thank you 😊
Excellent video
Thank you! :)
Perfecto mantenimiento.philips cd 618 muy buen reproductor,gracias por compartirlo y animo con el canal,un saludo desde España.
Easy, breezy, beautiful Cover Girl - It's a Philips. It works, nice plastic ribs for extra strength. Mechanisms themselves better than the best Sony, my Sony skips on some 80min CD-R towards the end. BTW, don't be surprised that it can play CD-RW - Philips developed them after all. And this one has removable bottom panel - my Sony from around the same time doesn't, so another big plus for the Flying Dutchman. Volume control, Program, Index - what else would you need. I can't find any Philips based machine in my area - the it's a Sony advertisement made such a following that in North America Philips was treated like low fi brand which is very far from the actual truth. Guess what my post 2001 Sony Car CD player uses as amplifiers - NXP chips. And think of all the NOS Mullard and Philips tubes many people are after, some of the best quality tubes ever made.
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BTW, the TDA1541 with oversampling, dither, and noise sampling was used by Sony untill 1988 when they finally were able to make their own chips that were as good as the Philips TDA1541.
CD-RW requires a dedicated "mode" to be read: reflectivity between pits and lands is lower and with standard pick-up the signal is too noisy to be decoded. CD players that supports CD-RW increase by 10 the amplification of the RF coming from the laser pick-up. The TDA1540 is a 14-bit DAC, but it was used by Philips in a sigma-delta configuration so that thanks to noise shaping it could reach a resolution of 16 bits. Very clever ! I have a Philips CD 204 with both CDM-1 and TDA1540 and despite its age it works perfectly and sounds very good.
Interesting, I knew CDRWs were less reflective, but I didn't know CD players could switch in additional RF amplification to better cope with this. I used to have two Philips CD204 CD players, one silver and one black. I ended up selling them because I didn't use them as much as they deserved. But they were absolutely fantastic machines.
I would have loved to have one of these back in the 90s. It looks a heck of a lot better than the walmart one I had.
Thanks for the video, I had a 614 with the same problem. However, I found that I didn't have to disconnect the power button arm from the switch to remove the front plate, just tilting the front like an oven door was sufficient.
Thanks much for the video - and this comment. I've got a CD614 to repair in a few days (same issue: The wheel came apart like a piece of cooked and re-dried pasta) and this will do the trick. Meanwhile: Do you know what the CD618 relationships are? Looks like a CD624 from the outside. Is the 6X8 family (if it is a family) the 230V UK version of the 6X4 family, by chance? Cheers & best from the continent.
Was waiting for the SNAP from that bendable piece of plastic...
The plastic the chassis is made from fortunately is in very good condition, so I had no worries about snapping off that piece. And if it had snapped off, there would have been some swearing and some epoxy glue and all would have been fine again...
Wow that's a lot of plastic, but it's probably still a great classic cd player! Thumbs up.
never saw this kind of mechanism, it works more like a HDD, interesting and very fast really
My CD player opens but doesnt close by oressing the button. It closes when i give the tray a little push. What else could be the problem besides the wheel?
I’ve got a single disc CD player I’ve had for years I love it. It recently started to fail. The cd drawer only opens when you tap the top of the CD player. I’ve tried greasing the components but that doesn’t help. Think it’s something I can repair myself or should I bring it to my repair guy
How am I supposed to know if you don't even give me the brand and model number? ;)
DrCassette kenwood DP-2040 mfg 1992
Seems to me like the drawer drive does not have enough force to disengage the part that holds down the CD during playback. That's why tapping the CD player helps. Most likely a bad drive belt. Make sure the belt has plenty of tension. If it hasn't, replace it. Also make sure you haven't gotten any grease on anything that is not supposed to be slippery.
DrCassette awesome thank you 🙏 the guy I topically bring my electronics to doesn’t charge much . If I can’t do it I’m sure he’ll be able to help . I like to do what I can just feels better thanks again and kind regards, Michael
You are welcome :)
Buena reparación, 🙂👏👏👍
That was really good. I really like to have that.
My second CD player ever was a Magnavox with this rotary voice coil mechanism. I think it was also the only CD player I ever had that supported index marks. I own only one CD I know has these index marks (Genesis - Invisible Touch). I really wish I hadn't traded that CD player away all those years ago.
That's interesting, do you remember what the index marks were good for on the Genesis album? Must have been the first release of the album on CD, the re-release on CD that I have of course has no index marks. I always thought the index marks were only used on CDs with classical music to subdivide tracks.
@@DrCassette on Invisible Touch, "Domino" has an index mark that will take you to the second part of the song ("The Last Domino"). CD ripping software like Brasero will even pick these marks up and put them on the TOC.
Apparently, if you've got Genesis's "Foxtrot" album on CD, the "Supper's Ready" track is subdivided into 7 parts using index marks. This is probably release-specific, too.
Very interesting, I never knew index marks were used on pop/rock CDs as well. Thanks for the info!
The first release of Enigma - "MCMXC a.D." also had indexes. Later versions of the CD used regular track markers but I recently bought the first version brand new via Discogs so I could use the index buttons on my Philips CD 473. :)
And on the first pressing of Genesis’ Foxtrot there were index marks on Supper’s Ready!
I fixed my CD player with this video. Awesome. One more question... Now, a week later, the motor starts to spin shortly when I press the CD player ON, as if it wants to close the drawer. However, the drawer is closed, so the belt starts to spin around the wheel, making weird noises. I don't think it's normal behavior for the motor to start spinning when the unit is powered on. Any ideas?
This could be caused by dirty contacts in the limit switches, so the logic thinks the drawer is open
@@DrCassette thanks for replying! Where can find those switches and how to clean them ?
Another note: Because this is a Phillips product, all of the screws are Torx, probably T10. (yes, I know that it may be considered ironic, though the inventor of Phillips head screws is not related to the electronics company)
Japanese decks use JIS screws (simillar to Phillips head screws, but slightly modified to reduce cam out (colloquially known as "slipping", it acts slightly like a torque limiter).
@UsernameNotDefined. You may already know this. The Japanese JIS screws are identified by a small stopped "hole" punched into the screw head next to the cross head pattern. Apparently, there are JIS screwdrivers available specifically for these screw fixings, right down to miniature versions for Japanese cameras and optical equipment. The JIS stands for "Japanese Imperial Standard" although I think the Imperial is based on the Japanese measuring system "Sun" and not UK/USA Imperial Inches.
Doc, I was wondering, what are the names of the songs you used in this video to test the cd player at the end? It's really good!
Thanks for sharing this, I'm following closely ...Do you know if the CD 604 is the same wheel and belt?
Mine is orange colour and although the gear was well worn in parts it was a part of the belt's running groove that had been shorn off.
The motor fires up no problem with it all removed so it must have been jammed somehow, and I couldn't hear the motor trying to do something when pressing the load/eject button so thought it was the motor that had died ,you mention the diode can leak away over time-
Also I didn't need to disconnect the power arm on this one-
there's a snapped dowel pin on the corner of the tray bottom left side-it seems to be retaining a small spring- perhaps it's one of the snap locks when the tray is fully closed you feel it connecting ?
Maybe you know what I should call it and if is available as a part ?
Thanks again and I'm hoping the wheel and belt are the same so I can order them
Best regards to you !
lots of lovely plastic .
this is great detailed info, I am just servicing marantz cd40. Doc you sound like you are narrating an episode of childrens TV, how did you get your accent?
My Philips CD 950 is mostly metal . Other manufacturers of the time like Sanyo / Fisher were plasticky as well .
Yes, the Philips 900 series was a more conventional design with metal cases.
I bought myself a box of 10 gears and belts for CDM4 players last year from China.
The gears are fine but god damn the belts are beyond utter garbage. Less than two months and they're completely fubar.
That's good to know, I was thinking about getting such a 10 pack from China so that I have these parts in stock for possible future repairs. Good thing I didn't.
You keep calling this garbage, but this was actually the end of the period when Philips and Magnavox (then owned by Philips) made some really decent gear. I would say between 1986 and 1993 or so. Philips also had a high quality reputation in the 1970s until about 1981 when they started using crappy plastic for everything; fortunately later in the 1980s they saw the error of their ways.
In the mid 1990s Philips was in trouble because of heavy competition from Japan and elsewhere, and that's why they started making everything cheaper again, with lower quality materials and components (they didn't make their own components anymore either).
Bottom line: Philips equipment from before ca. 1982, and from between 1986-1993 is not as bad as you may think. Serviceability was always bad with Philips if you compare it to e.g. Sony, but a lot of stuff didn't need servicing in the first place.
Where do I "keep calling this garbage"? Give me time stamps!
@@DrCassette You didn't use the word "garbage" specifically, but you did say some negative things about it:
0:10 "Nothing special" "plastic faceplate" "typical dubious Philips build quality"
1:19 "Lots of plastic; yes it's a Philips, what did you expect"
13:23 "The top cover has this weird texture... that's annoying"
I'm not saying you're wrong, all those are valid comments for this particular CD player. And you praised it too.
My point is that Philips didn't always make crappy stuff and this was not a crappy CD player at all when it came out, even though Philips was in its "Let's Make Things Better" (but only for the shareholders) phase in 1991 (a lot of people at Philips lost their jobs around that time). The number buttons on the front panel and the display that shows track number and time simultaneously are a sign that this was probably a higher-end model at the time, and in spite of the stupid drawer gear, I'm sure it still works great after almost 30 years. I'd say that's commendable. :-)
Anyway thanks for posting!
@@JacGoudsmit the problem is that they were a great brand in all they built but in the early 80´s they turned themselves for plastic and low quality equipment, when they notice they lost is market regarding to hi-fi components ,the release of new quality material was done but the building materials were still bad ,and when to release the digital cassette i watched when in Lisbon they rented a store in a shopping center or mall they didn´t caught the atention of possible byers ,at the time i was living in Lisbon, Portugal and several times i watched the store empty, people were already used to relate philips with low quality ,they had the colour grey to see if one could find it interesting but still bad quality plastic employed in the building of the components ,they had earlier a good quality hi-fi components but by that time no one looked for philips to buy a hi-fi system, they did own other brands where the selling success was great but not that good as expected, but it´s sad to see one of the greatest brands destroy themselves in what relates to hi-fi components, the ones i bought from their 79 F series were good ,they still are in use and with great sound quality, but they lost with the at the time manager of the brand, with a incredible decline of quality . I owned a radio with a strap to carry on the shoulder that the deck A was incredible good playing cassettes but having used it for around 10 years to listen to music whenever my group of friends travelled to the beach or countryside it endured lot´s of bad treatment ,it kept working till today, my father who was faithfull bought in 1990 a ,what they call now boombox and it was really good in what cocerns to sound quality ,this with not so big woofers they had a lot of bass with an equaliser and a on/off button to increase the bass ,even had a on/off key to work ,normally they work when you pressed play on the tape or turn the selector to the cd player or radio, that was a good boombox compared with others from the same year, all the brands did decline their building quality by the same time but the quality of the components still was there no mather if they were all made of plastic,we had to surrender to japanese brands it was a pitty seeing several european good brands disappear by the same time . About Magnavox i never seen other than philips material re-branded , if it turn out to be an independent brand i never saw it ,the radio that i refer to with a strap to carry it on the shoulder had a Magnavox brother but instead of light grey was black ,this in austria ,the only place i saw magnavox material ,regards
I have a Philips cd player with a similar mechanism, however it is has a different problem. It can’t play cd’s properly anymore, it skips like crazy even on known good cd’s. Tried cleaning the lens once, but I think it might have a more severe problem. I wonder if the laser itself has gone kaput. It just seems to have a tracking issue.
That is certainly possible, laser diodes have a limited lifetime. Over the years I have come across two Technics CD players with CDM4 mechanism. Both had problems detecting CDs and tracking properly during playback.
@@DrCassette You are correct - they have a finite life - good for a certain amount of hours and that is it. Kind of a shame because alot of these older players were great.
I'm surprised you bash Philips so much - I though they were fairly well regarded in Europe/GB. Here in the US, they weren't remarkable bad, just not normally special either. They weren't the best you could get, but they were far from the worst.
Great video!
I was not bashing Philips, I was defending them! It is a fact that out of all European manufacturers Philips were the first to cut cost and reduce built quality. But they were still very well capable of making good products. And time has proven them right, out of all the major European electronics manufacturers Philips remains as one of the last independent companies.
Does it sounds good? Maybe comparing to the Onkyo?
J'ai entre autres dans mes platines CD cette Philips CD618 qui fonctionnais bien , mais quand j'ai touché le pignon après avoir vu cette vidéo il est partit en miettes rien quand le touchant ! par chance dans ma réserve de pignons j'avais j'avais ce modèle de pignon en nylon pour CDM4/19 et c'est repartit ! pour le graisse j'utilise de la teflon Grip Shift qui date beaucoup devenue SRAM...
Super helpful!
I have the CD 620 from around the same period, was my first real CD player, took it out of storage ( the loft) and powered it up, pressed open on the drawer but nothing happened so I opened it up, the gear and belt were OK but somehow the cover had got stuck, lifted it up like you did and then put it back, now the drawer opens fine but its quite slow, do you think I should replace the belt anyway and also the grease as the existing has gone a yellowish colour.
I would definitely replace the belt but also look for the same issue with the broken gear that he showed you in this video.
@@postersm7141 thanks for the reply, the drawer opens fine but slowly without making any sounds like in this video so I think the gear is ok but I think I will change the belt and put some new grease.
Das gleiche Model habe ich auch, mit dem gleichen Problem. Ich habe erstmal nur das Zahnrad entfernt, damit man die CD Schublade besser manuell öffnen un schließen kann, aber ich sollte meinen villeicht auch mahl reparieren. Könnte ich villeicht den Link zu der Webseite wo du das Zahnrad her hast haben? Ich habe im Internet keinen Ersatz unter 10 € gefunden.
Mein Trick um die Oberseite zu reinigen war ein nasser Schwamm mit Spülmittel, jedoch war der Dreck damit auch nur mit Geduld entfernbar.
Ich habe da einfach eine Suche auf Ebay gemacht. "Philips CDM4" als Suche liefert reichlich Ergebnisse, und dann kannst du ja auch in den ähnlichen Artikeln weiterschauen. Wie gesagt, das billigste, was ich gefunden habe, kam für so 3 - 4€, aber aus China, das kann also etwas dauern.
Do you still have this player? I have an odd question about it.
I have a Micromega Leader 2. They modified it off this player. I took off the feet and put them aside with the screws. I went to put the feet back on and noticed that one of the screws is shorter than the other 3. I'm embarrassed to admit I can't figure out which foot uses the shorter screw.
Hello ! I Wonder If the philips cd player 618 , 620 or other model can count what songs fit at a c-90 cassett A / B side and what other phillips cd player can play cd-rw?
Well done as always, and like you said a lot of plastic.
I have a cd614, i ve replaced the gear and rubber band but it gives me an error when feeding cds, tray works like a charm but cd wont turn 🤔
I have a Phillips CD604 that is, I presume, either slightly older or slightly lower spec that the 618 you showed. It has just developed the same problem with the CD drawer and also will not read the table of contents. Before I take the casing apart, is the remedy the same for the 604? Is there anything else that might cause this? Thank you.
I just fixed my 604, following the Doc's excellent instructions. So yes, I confirm the remedy is exactly the same. Though since you posted this just under a year ago, I appreciate that my response may not be entirely useful to you now.
@@hingmy5746 Is it the same wheel and belt as CDM4 in this one?
@@badbasstrilogy I ordered the same wheel and belt as shown in the video and it was a perfect fit.
@@hingmy5746 I think the entire 6X4 family (04, 14, 24, 34) and the 608, 618 are interchangeable in that aspect.
Teilweise gehen 70er-Jahre Geräte wie am ersten Tag, da sind Platik und Gummiteile wie neu, dann gibt es Geräte aus den 90ern oder sogar neuere, die haben Gummipest und poröses Plastik.
Kommt aber auch sicher auf die Lagerung an.
You do not have to remove the frontplate nor losen the powerswitch,just take of the clamp and you can slide out the cd platter through the front
No, you can't. Not on this model. The end stops for the CD drawer are part of the front. With the front in place you can not pull out the drawer.
@@DrCassette Oke,my fault,I am used to the other design of Philips I guess,
If you don't replace the worn parts of the gear drive, will the CD player eventually get to the point where the motor won't be able to open or close the tray at all?
When experimenting with how to get the mechanism apart for the video, I actually broke the gear completely. In that condition, you could freely move the drawer around as shown in the video, but the motor drive wouldn't do anything anymore at all.
Thanks!
You're welcome :)
Danke, sehr gut erklärt.
Freut mich, dass das Video hilfreich war! :)
What other maintenance is needed on older CD players to look after them and keep them going?
Or is it a case of if it ain broke don’t fix it
I would say CD players are mostly a case of if it's not broken, don't fix it.
I have a Philips D8884 with same CD-mechanism (excluded loader mechanism) CDM-4, it is a portable radio "boombox". The problem is that it won't read all tracks, stops and shows "error" mostly after track six and higher.I know you are DrCassette however maybe some others know what is actually going wrong? Is this a common problem of the mechanism and easy to fix? I don't think it is a mechanical problem because the arm can move freely at any position. Any ideas? Thanks for any reply.
Possibly the laser diode has gone weak. If that happens there are all kinds of problems with the CDM4 mechanism.
@@DrCassette Ah, thanks. Any chance to replace it?
Hi, very good video. Which type of grease do you use?
I usually use white lithium grease.
@@DrCassette Thanks a lot for your quick reply
I have a Philips CD 750 it won’t play the first track of any CD and then skips occasionally it seems like it can’t find the starting point any ideas please let me know thank you
You could try to very carefully clean the lens of the laser. Use an alcohol based window cleaner, apply it with a cotton swab, use another cotton swab to dry it off. Generally there is not too much that usually goes wrong in the old Philips mechanisms.
@@DrCassette thank you it works perfectly now
I have the original Rotel RCD 865, whenevr I put in a CD I hear a clanking noise and no TOC is read. Can this be fixed?
Жаль что Philips сейчас китайский. А ведь CD именно их формат. По поломке: было сразу понятно- дело в кинематике, и усталости материалов. Например, у даже гораздо более 'современных' Samsung- привод лотка вообще больная тема. Старение наступает гораздо быстрее, несмотря на опыт. Скорей всего ошибка (не искючаю запланированная) инженеров. А может и попросту экономия.
В случае этого Philips- просто неизбежное время и ошибка в выборе материала шестерни. Вылечил легко, с чем и поздравляю.
Muito bonito 🧐🙏
I have three devices of this model
Does it have the 1541 DAC?
The CD player says "Bitstream Conversion" which I think is the technology that they had after the 1541. I forgot to check the DAC while I had the CD player apart :P
@@DrCassette the TDA1541 was so good that chinese companies started plagiarising it 😂
It use Philips Bitstream DAC (1-bit DAC), very likely a TDA 1547
Hi are you still on this chanel Doc?
Yes, of course I am :)
Try Armoral on that cover ?.👍
I wonder if the replacement wheel is a 3D-printed part.
It is not. It is a proper injection molded component.
@@DrCassette Thanks for the clarification.
So many of these and Marantz players have this problem. Unexpected poor quality from a German company.
Philips is a company from the Netherlands ;)
Dubious Philips build quality? It might be plastic but dubious? It is one of the best Philips CD players.What does it matter of the housing is plastic? It has no effect on the playback. What do you have against Philips? ;-)
Not sure why you would call this one of the best Philips CD players, compared to for example a CD204 this is quite sad. Also remember Philips was responsible for things like the almost all plastic N7150 reel-to-reel...
@@DrCassette This was the last CD player with the CDM-4 and which has a TDA1541. What does it matter if it has a plastic housing? It does not effect the playback or performance.
I have sold and repaired CD players since the introduction of the CD. And your focus on this player is way off when you only focus on the plastic. A lot of other brands also used plastic housing. But that does not make the player any worse. The essence here is the performance which is outstanding.
You also act as if Philips products are built in a dubious way with plastic. That is your opinion and that is ok but plastic can often also be firmer to metal. And that is what you want. Metal bends. Plastic does not.
I've got a Philips CD150...tray comes out but the flip down door it's supposed to push prevents it opening....unless I flip it manually then it's fine. Any ideas what the issue could be ?
Seems like there is not enough force transferred from the motor to the drawer to push open the door. This could be caused by a bad belt.
@@DrCassette cheers mate. Is it a similar process to this unit?
@@midnightpretenders5749 Unfortunately I don't know.
This CD player is almost like my Magnavox CDB 610 CD player (lots of plastic of course). It too is having tray opening issues.
For many years Magnavox was owned by Philips. So it is very likely that these models internally are almost identical.
Philips used crap plastic during this era. I think they made it out of toffee. I have several components which are all unserviceable. Such a shame that a great company & innovator stooped to such crap componentry.
It is worthwhile to look around online. Since Philips products were so popular, it seem like there actually is a large variety of replacement gears available from different sources. I have another project coming up that will involve replacing gears in a Philips cassette deck.
it´s true i notice the same in the turn for the 80´s decade
I have the phillips cd 710
yeah just belts
Ummm... no?
Sarcasm...
Snap! The plastic "bendable" piece breaks. All is in ruin!
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. Feel free to figure out another way to get the gear installed...
@@DrCassette Sorry, but that bent piece of plastic had me on edge!
hello dr cassette! are you interested in a hitachi hifi system from the 70s / 80s? I give it away for 20 € because the power button does not click into place and some drive belts are defective. It would be a shame to throw them away.
I am from germany:)
Thanks for your offer. Can you see a model number on the system?
@@DrCassette SDT 1000m
Alles klar, danke. Leider muss ich dir ganz offen sagen, das ist nicht die Gerätekategorie, für die ich Geld ausgebe. Zumal die Versandkosten für so einen Turm auch nicht wenig sind. Allerdings wäre so ein System doch eigentlich ein ganz gutes Projekt für einen Anfänger - vielleicht magst du dich selber mal an der Reparatur versuchen?
@@DrCassette hatte die Reparatur schon versucht und bin leider gescheitert da es viel Fummelei ist. Jetzt suche ich jemanden der das für wenig Geld macht.
Ach so, okay...
I absolutely hate philips because of their boomboxes and micro hi-fi system. All of them were rubbish. Cassette player started to show signs of aging just after a 1.5 years. The playback levels went uneven. The cd player stopped working completely. It did not even rotate the main motor. it wasn't a case of a bad cable connection. Probably the ic.
Philips had some really decent components - at a price. Their bottom line consumer products weren't that reliable.
In the end all this low quality budget priced equipment is the reason why Philips still exists today as an independent company. Remember what happened to so many other European companies that maintained a high built quality on all their products...
@@svenschwingel8632 old sharp boombox from early 90s performed far better
@@DrCassette There were dual, grundig , telefunken, tandberg etc
@@DrCassette I don't know much about what was back then because cassettes were pretty much dead when i saw the daylight for the first time.