Excellent work Michael and beautiful playing too! Thank you for sharing Roberto’s work so we get a bonus example. I can’t wait to try out the materials!
wie immer tolles video :) irgendwie ist es bei dir auch schon so selbstverständlich, aber ich finds auch einfach klasse dass du immer alles einspielst, anstatt das aus der musescore dose zu hören zu bekommen. ist einfach ein riesen upgrade. das mit dem ‘recomposing’ muss ich auch mal ausprobieren, klingt nach nem guten pädagogischen ansatz!
I'm guessing, that the subject is about the dilemma of the copier, since it's back to that Swedish argument about method or no method. Hey, I was just listening to Ukrainian music about treasure hoarders, which has nothing to do with that book "Charlotte's Web".
Ha, actually I didn’t really know op. 10 no. 11 but Scriabin stole from Chopin and I’d say Chopin stole it from Field 😅 ‘surprisingly’ similar to one of his nocturnes
I don't know men, I keep practicing composition and modifying other composers pieces since some years ago, and I am not a genius yet. Not sure if those work for everybody
Hey Yuri, i don’t think the end of recomposing is to become a “genius”. But certainly it was one of many exercises great composers did to learn their craft. I guess it becomes an efficient exercice if you have in mind a very clear idea of what you are doing, for instance: in the case of this video, we were taking a partimento and exploring textures, jamming with it in an especific style. However we could only find nice solutions because we know the repertoire very well, if I didn’t played a lot of Chopin pieces, I couldn’t find anything. However, taking a piece, making a partimento and strictly realising it was probably not the most common way of recomposing. If we take the examples Michael showed, what was emulated was precisely the texture, or large formal/narrative structures. The later case is probably the one we can go more far from the original piece. It means you must get the structural cadences and modulations, you must understand their strength, and what makes one cadence stronger than other, you must get where there are prolongations, where there are sequences/elaboration, where there are simple statement cadences. So when you map this, you can compose your own guideline: when the original makes a prolongation, you prolong but in other way, when it sequences up, you sequence up but with another sequence, when it cadence strongly, you cadence strongly but in other way, etc etc etc of course all these exercises only make sense if you have already a deep knowledge in figuredbass/partimento and basics of counterpoint…. Don’t forget before recomposing Chopin, Filtsch had studied several years under Simon Sechter!
Ich schätze Ihre Beiträge sehr - aber bitte nicht auch bei Ihnen ständig diese albernen Meme-Gifs und Video-snippets - zumal sie hier stellenweise recht deplaziert wirkten (auf mich).
Zur Kenntnis genommen! Wenn Sie vor dem Hintergrund der Sachlage, dass im 19. Jahrhundert mal ein 15-Jähriger von TBC aus dem Leben gerissen wurde, ein Hüstel-Meme unwitzig finden dann kann ich das allemal nachvollziehen. Ihnen muss hier nicht alles gefallen und das zum Ausdruck zu bringen dazu ist die Kommentarfunktion ja da. Wenn ich das nächste mal ein Video bastle und denke, dass es Zeit für einen Lacher ist, werde ich an Sie denken: "wie würde Herr Kokolores das finden?" ich nehme mir Ihren Hinweis zu Herzen... auf Jokes ganz zu verzichten wird mir allerdings schwerfallen. Ich würde mich trotzdem darüber freuen wenn Sie mir treu bleiben, vielleicht gelingt es Ihnen darüber hinwegzusehen.
Today's a great day. Michael uploaded video.
That last version was a complete nocturne. All he needed was a B section. I was totally invested!
Broooo this video is soooo dope, loved the "and the kid again " XD, amazing materials
Excellent work Michael and beautiful playing too! Thank you for sharing Roberto’s work so we get a bonus example. I can’t wait to try out the materials!
This guy knows more about music theory than any contemporary composer I’ve heard 😂
Like who?
😢♥️💐 the best channel about composition, congratulations for the work😊
Just wanted to say your Brahms voice was on point
thanks a lot, Christian!
Stealin' with style ❤ great video, as always ❤
Amazing!! More recomps like this!! 🎉🎉🎉
Wow, that was great!
Completely amazing! Such an inspiration!
Yey! One of my favorite topics :) Thanks for the upload!!
Amazing!
I've completely recomposed two Mozart piano sonata movements a few years back
wie immer tolles video :) irgendwie ist es bei dir auch schon so selbstverständlich, aber ich finds auch einfach klasse dass du immer alles einspielst, anstatt das aus der musescore dose zu hören zu bekommen. ist einfach ein riesen upgrade. das mit dem ‘recomposing’ muss ich auch mal ausprobieren, klingt nach nem guten pädagogischen ansatz!
Merci, Naphta!
“Yo people” lol :D
Beautiful piece Roberto!!!❤️
hahaha
I wonder if the desfino hadn't killed our prodigy... my God, we lost so much
Lovely! 🙂
Thanks, Jonas!
I knew it was only a matter of time before you would insert an Alma Deutscher meme in one of your videos!
hahha, I used it already in another one
Roberto's bass needs a little more broadening across octaves. But I like both versions. You are middle-late Chopin, Roberto is early Chopin.
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10:00 style #2 style #2
I'm guessing, that the subject is about the dilemma of the copier, since it's back to that Swedish argument about method or no method. Hey, I was just listening to Ukrainian music about treasure hoarders, which has nothing to do with that book "Charlotte's Web".
I'd like to play this. is it possible to get the score?
look into the description
I liked your and your student's solution more than Shopan's though
Was war am Anfang lebensgefährlich?😁 das würde ich jetzt gerne wissen ;D
Kabels...
interessanter Accountname hahah
To be fair chopin copied field's nocturnes
And Field was influenced by folk songs to some extent; those of Russia, Ireland and Scotland.
I'd pay to hear the student's version.
watch video to the very end, the last 2 minutes of the video is his realization played by him
Ha, actually I didn’t really know op. 10 no. 11 but Scriabin stole from Chopin and I’d say Chopin stole it from Field 😅 ‘surprisingly’ similar to one of his nocturnes
oh yeah? Which one?
Der Chopin-Schüler hatte aber einen coolen Kragen.
der war halt auch son Hipster…
@@en-blanc-et-noir Der Komponist, dem die Frauen vertrauen... 😎
I've always wondered if Filtsch got infected by Chopin... it is likely and a horrible realization.
I don't know men, I keep practicing composition and modifying other composers pieces since some years ago, and I am not a genius yet. Not sure if those work for everybody
Hey Yuri, i don’t think the end of recomposing is to become a “genius”. But certainly it was one of many exercises great composers did to learn their craft. I guess it becomes an efficient exercice if you have in mind a very clear idea of what you are doing, for instance: in the case of this video, we were taking a partimento and exploring textures, jamming with it in an especific style. However we could only find nice solutions because we know the repertoire very well, if I didn’t played a lot of Chopin pieces, I couldn’t find anything. However, taking a piece, making a partimento and strictly realising it was probably not the most common way of recomposing. If we take the examples Michael showed, what was emulated was precisely the texture, or large formal/narrative structures. The later case is probably the one we can go more far from the original piece. It means you must get the structural cadences and modulations, you must understand their strength, and what makes one cadence stronger than other, you must get where there are prolongations, where there are sequences/elaboration, where there are simple statement cadences. So when you map this, you can compose your own guideline: when the original makes a prolongation, you prolong but in other way, when it sequences up, you sequence up but with another sequence, when it cadence strongly, you cadence strongly but in other way, etc etc etc of course all these exercises only make sense if you have already a deep knowledge in figuredbass/partimento and basics of counterpoint…. Don’t forget before recomposing Chopin, Filtsch had studied several years under Simon Sechter!
Ich schätze Ihre Beiträge sehr - aber bitte nicht auch bei Ihnen ständig diese albernen Meme-Gifs und Video-snippets - zumal sie hier stellenweise recht deplaziert wirkten (auf mich).
Zur Kenntnis genommen! Wenn Sie vor dem Hintergrund der Sachlage, dass im 19. Jahrhundert mal ein 15-Jähriger von TBC aus dem Leben gerissen wurde, ein Hüstel-Meme unwitzig finden dann kann ich das allemal nachvollziehen. Ihnen muss hier nicht alles gefallen und das zum Ausdruck zu bringen dazu ist die Kommentarfunktion ja da. Wenn ich das nächste mal ein Video bastle und denke, dass es Zeit für einen Lacher ist, werde ich an Sie denken: "wie würde Herr Kokolores das finden?" ich nehme mir Ihren Hinweis zu Herzen... auf Jokes ganz zu verzichten wird mir allerdings schwerfallen. Ich würde mich trotzdem darüber freuen wenn Sie mir treu bleiben, vielleicht gelingt es Ihnen darüber hinwegzusehen.
Good vid, but 2:46 what the fuck? Shopan😂?