The engineers explaining how the rubber in the o-rings actually work, using everyday examples, was really amazing to listen to. Being able to tie an extremely technical idea to a more simple one always helps me understand easier. Super cool of them to take the time to explain.
That’s the kicker part about it! The issue of the orings failing during launch in cold temps isn’t a difficult concept to understand! A demonstration shouldn’t even be needed, a simple explanation should have sufficed for everyone to understand launching in those weather conditions is an absolute NO GO! *PERIOD!* idk why they even bothered consulting the engineers if nasa mgmt was going to do whatever the hell they wanted anyway! They simply didn’t care, more than willing to carelessly gamble away the lives of 7 beautiful ppl without a 2nd thought and then chalk it up to “ this is the unfortunate part of space exploration “ 😒
I was 19 years old, and my dad was almost 56. The same age I am now. I remember getting up early with him to see the launch, and when I saw the white smoke going to different directions I turned to him and said," it wasn't supposed to look like that was it? Dad?" And he said," no honey. They're gone." My dad passed away at 93 over the summer, and I can still remember this as clear as day. Rest in peace to all of the challenger crew and rest in peace forever, Dad. ❤
I had just turned 19 only 4 days earlier. I was in class in college. Between classes I watched what I thought was normal replays on the big tv in the student union. I saw the multitrails & thought "that doesn't look right"
I was 18, almost 19, in my senior year of high school, about to write mid-term exams. I had an anxious day, more about the exams, then learned about this disaster in the evening news. 😢
This happened on my 24th birthday. It was the first event in my lifetime that was one of those, "I remember exactly where I was when this happened". I was over at my friend's house, picking her up so we could go riding our horses together and her t.v. was on while I waited for her to get ready. Of course the launch was on every channel and I was interested in it because of the teacher on board. I remember so distinctly calling out to my friend (who was in her bedroom), "OMG COME HERE!!! It just blew up!!!". She had no idea what I was talking about so she came walking in, and we both just sat there on her couch, holding each other's hands as we watched it again and again and just kept whispering, "Is this really happening?". I'm 61 years old, and it was the only time in my life that something shocked me to the bones like that... until 9/11.
@@sequillawilliams8809omg. This is nowhere near the horror of 9/11. People are just being dramatic. Its not 9/11. It's not a pearl harbor. It's sad and horrible but sad and horrible things happen daily. Things earth shattering happen rarely (thank God), and those are the horrors that take pieces of your soul. The holocaust is another. This is bad. But anyone who tries to make it more are just ridiculous.
I was 8 when 9/11 happened and I remember it almost identical to the way you remember the challenger disaster. I remember where I was and how it seemed like a dream. It couldn’t be real. To this day I can’t shake the feeling I felt watching the towers fall … live in front of my eyes. It changed something in me. I never got that back.
Same here, sis. I was kind of confused when I saw it because I wasn't sure if the smoke was supposed to look like that. That's when I turned to my dad and asked him if it was supposed to look like that and that's when he told me that it had exploded. It was such a preventable tragedy. I used to have horses too! Those were some happy times in my life.
@@sequillawilliams8809 I think of things like that all the time. My great-grandmother who was born in 1895, so everything from horses and wagons to a man lending on the moon in her lifetime! My dad lived through the depression, world war II, the Korean war which he was stationed in Korea for. And then the Kennedy assassination, water gate, the shuttle, and 9/11. And then of course January 6th. He passed away last June at age 93. I'm 57 and even I have lived through some history in my lifetime.
I was home that day with the flu and was channel surfing, came onto CNN almost an hour before launch time. I thought I would be lucky to get this historic moment on video. I put a brand new tape into the VCR and hit the Record button. I got everything before, during, and after the disaster, including President Reagan's address about the disaster later that night. I still have this tape, still as clear as the day it happened, and it has been transferred to DVD as well. Such a sad and shocking event. My then-husband called a few minutes after it happened to find out if it were true. Through tears I told him it was, and I was taping it. He watched the video (still recording) when he got home that afternoon. I went back to work 2 days later, and the mood was very somber and sad. RIP Challenger 7. Never forget. I play the DVD on the anniversary every year. (Jan Griffiths).
I wish I had taped any of the launches, especially this one. I remember scheduling my morning work break just before the launch. I could not believe my eyes when it broke up.
I remember watching it in school. It was the first time they had TV in school for me. I remember how quiet the whole school got for the rest of the day. Such a sad experience for young kids to see..
Think this is the first time I have been made aware that the crew were alive after the explosion. That they all most likely died instantly on impact. Those last few minutes must have been horrific for the crew.
There’s a strong possibility that the crew cabin didn’t lose pressurization. If the cabin didn’t depressurize, they would’ve remained conscious throughout the entire descent. In that situation, I’m sure the last 2 minutes 45 seconds were terrifying. The only “good thing” about that scenario is the fact that the death upon impact was instantaneous and they didn’t feel a thing.
They put a team together afterwards to see what went wrong. They didn’t need a team they already knew in advance what the problem was. No one wanted to admit it. Putting a team together was the cover up. Bless this man and his integrity.
Exactly, this is why Astronaut Dr. Sally Ride went behind the Rogers Commissions back. Reagan had ordered Rogers to go easy on NASA. Dr. Ride secretly obtained the Thiokol evidence and enlisted Air Force Major Don Katyna and Nobel Physicist Dr Richard Feynman to back and ream both Thiokol and NASA management against the wall. When Rogers found out what they were doing he immediately made it a closed session, in spite of the openness proclaimed. The American public was literally denied their "Watergate" moment regarding the space shuttle program.
I’d be willing to bet nearly every department thought they knew what went wrong, and thought they were at fault. It’s a complicated system and it can always be “safer.” Everyone’s always worried about something. These guys just happened to be right, so it’s the story we hear.
@@mikemck4796sure, every department had their worries, but the administration leaders knew that they had just pressured Morton Thiokal to back off on their warning. Every single person familiar with the whole situation knew exactly what had just happened.
@@mikebronicki8264Hell yeah, the one engineer told his wife the night before the launch "We just killed 7 astronauts." He, and other engineers KNEW what was going to happen BEFORE it happened. There was no need to investigate it. It was already investigated.
I remember being a freshman in HS, and we all gathered to watch the challenger launch... the first teacher was on board. But i will never forget the crying, screams, and general heartbreaking feeling as we watched it explode.
I was also a freshman that year. My biology teacher went to the teacher's lounge to see the launch. She came back to the classroom crying and screaming "her babies were watching!", referring to Christa McAuliffe because her kids were right there at the Cape. Such a dark day. I also remember Reagan's address to the nation and how heart felt that was.
A friend of who used to work for NASA launch control in the early 80'a told me about one of the boosters having an catastrophic o ring failure 3 missions before the Challenger disaster when a 6ft by 9 inch section of the booster seal burned through, but it just happened to be facing the opposite of the fuel tank- so they just kept launghing without bothering to redesigning the seals !!?? PERFECT-
I’ve always believed that the officials at NASA should’ve been charged with a crime for what happened to Challenger. They were made aware over and over again about this issue and how deadly it could be but they willfully ignored it. They put the lives of those astronauts in danger simply because they wanted to stay on schedule. They really should’ve been charged with manslaughter or negligent homicide. What they did was so willfully negligent that the deaths of the astronauts should’ve been viewed as a crime.
Alas, they'd get off with the technicality that the astronauts knew the risks when they flew, and the signed document saying that it was okay to launch. The managers responsible though were removed from their jobs and were offered other roles where they'd never have that influence again. They all retired instead, because they knew that their careers and reputation were over.
I watched this live while at work in Whittier, California . . . The whole office froze. Money and Power - Always the prime motivators, showed it's face again. Until we can balance safety into that equation, it will go on . . . RIP, our seven heros...
@@napoleonbonerfart278Reagan forced NASA to carry "payloads” and make money to get their budget approved. The 'go' decision that killed Challenger was made to keep the payload schedule on track.
I was an employee of Morton Thiokol at the time and I was working on O-ring test blocks. I don't like the phrase "engineering disaster" because it should be "a management disaster"
It really doesn't matter if it was engineering or management. Both knew it could happen. I know it's "guilt by association" but the general public couldn't differentiate
The underlying problem is whistle blowers lose their careers, and their reputation is damaged beyond repair. This was true with Alaska flight 261 when an engineer blew the whistle to the FAA over safety concerns at Alaskan Airlines. He was proven right with the tragic loss of 261, yet no management types were ever prosecuted for their gross negligence.
A suit executive should never veto an engineer. The executives were worried about losing the contract. The engineers were worried about losing human lives.
The executives were pressured by NASA bureaucrats, accountable to no one, like every other government scumbag, because they were afraid that congress might reduce their budget.
Absolutely astonishing, how much catastrophe was caused by group-think, dismissal of expert opinion and putting task-schedules ahead of people's lives! I was motivated to read Professor Feynman's "What Do You Care What Other People Think? - and learned the value of holding that same attitude in my own life.
I remember this so well. It was indeed so sad day & the loss of seven amazing people who was just irreplacable. I was watching from our home in Norge then & although so many year ago, once brought back to mind, feels just like the yesterday. May these 7 people RIP. Tusen takk for sharing.
Not only was this disaster criminally negligent, costing 7 lives of people who depended on NASA doing their utmost to keep the mission safe, but how many more suffered because of this negligence? The astronauts' family and friends, NASA personnel who knew what was wrong and were powerless to do more than they did to alert the higher ups, and the millions of children here and abroad who witnessed the whole thing on live tv? And honestly, I feel for the poor teachers who watched one of their own die on live tv, then were left trying to help the children in their care cope with the trauma. What an awful mess we all went through because some people at NASA placed their precious launch schedule about the safety of their astronauts. 😨
I got exactly 2 seconds in the this video, and my face just fell flat when I saw the "Challenger" monicker.... I witnessed this live, on TV because I had the flu and was at my Grandparents' house when it happened, and had to explain, as an 11 year old child, I immediately said when the booster blew up as we watched, "That's not right..." "Nannie, Papa, that's not what's supposed to happen," to people 2 generations separated from me. I still look back like it hurt to do so, as they had seen the moon landing 6 years before I was even born... Nannie said I started crying about 10 minutes later.
My english teacher in junior highschool actually was a student of Krista McAuliffe. She was always choked up on the anniversary of the disaster. I'm also glad NASA was taken to account for this, they 100% caused this accident, no doubt.
Yep, no doubt. One of the teachers where my ex wife went to grade school was a finalist to go on this. Needless to say she was especially upset by this; she came close to being on that mission.
Man it's been a while, I was at Lewis elementary in Iowa watching it live in the gym when this happened, tears me up and I was confused then. Now he just tears me up to see it again.
I watched it from home I was 20. It took me a few minutes to even realize what happened. I was horrified. It seemed unreal. Love to all who witness Ed or lost someone in this traumatic event
I’m not calling you out or anything because it seems to be a common theme that many people (even the families on the ground) didn’t realize it had exploded right away, but I can’t help but wonder why that was the case. While I wasn’t alive at the time (born in ‘98), it looked pretty clearly like a catastrophic explosion to me the first time I saw video of it. Maybe it was just a case of the brain trying to find a rationalization, not wanting to accept that an unspeakable tragedy had just occurred.
@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 For me it was because I had never seen a shuttle lift off before. At first I thought that's what it looked like when it separated. Now I watch it and realize something went wrong. Have a great day!
The Space Shuttle was such a stupid and dangerous concept, the result of politicians and bureaucrats getting into the business of test pilots and engineers. It's amazing that the Shuttle made a single successful flight, let alone 135 of them. It says lots about the skill and dedication of the people who did the hands-on work in the program.
True but who should override the white house.. interference came feom the top for this because the white house had a press conference..my thoughts are even if they wanted to call it off they were pressured
Because am sure they were getting pressure from the white house to launch...how do you fight that......they said the president has a press conference which include the event
Challenger actually survived the conflagration we saw on TV (which was deemed not combustive). Rather, it broke apart afterward due to tumbling at Mach 1+ speeds, for which it was never designed for. This is why the crew initially survived the conflagration we saw on TV and activated their emergency oxygen packs. Specifically, the controls belonging to Onizuka and Resnik had been manually switched to the ON position when the cockpit was recovered. There was no accidental way for this to happen. These are all official findings noted in the Rogers Investigation Commission Report.
This was not just a negligent act where someone didn't perform up to standard, these deaths were the direct result of a reckless disregard for human life-- a deliberate choice to place others in unjustifiable and preventable peril. They not only knew about the danger, in no uncertain terms, but they knew that there was a high degree of likelihood that their actions would result in serious injury, or in this case death. Unfortunately this sort of thing happens often in bureaucracy; decisions get made based on someone protecting their power base and position rather than accomplishing the stated mission. Often times the person who is making a decision where bad results are highly likely may believe that they can blame any undesirable results on someone else-- a scapegoat or even diffuse the blame among many people; this kind of thing can clearly highlight individuals who are not afraid of doing the wrong thing, but only in getting caught or blamed. Unfortunately a bureaucracy is inevitable in government, elsewise executive functions wouldn't get done; regretfully in this case the necessary evil of bureaucracy resulted in tragedy.
Wow, this made me tear up. I was 10 years old. When we returned from lunch, our substitute teacher said he had bad news for us -we thought it was about our teacher who had been out sick. It was not. He showed us video of the shuttle launch and explained what happened. Honestly, we could have done without the coverage with no mental health support, but alas, it was the 80s, and everyone just expected us to buck up. I was numb. I was just glad it wasn't about our teacher. But it was about someone else's teacher...I felt very sad for those children. Completely avoidable tragedy.
The tradgedy had nothing to do with exploration and discovery but was yet another failure by administrators to follow the rules. The decision makers for this launch in contradiction to previously agreed no-go points should still be serving a prison sentence for murder of 7 people.
The Soviets followed the same playbook (deny, coverup, and punish truth tellers) when Chernobyl happened a few months later. It turns out communists and capitalists do have things in common.
They should have rolled another shuttle out the next day loaded it with NASA executives and launched on an even colder day. That would have fixed NASA management...
Wow, I remember this. I was in college, walking to class and I heard some other students talking about it as I passed. So, I skipped class and headed over to the Student Union where they had a TV room. Up to that point, the shuttle program had been safe, almost routine, so I was shocked by what happened. Years later with Columbia, I was no longer shocked.
As much as I respect these engineers for standing up I still can't believe not one person said "look, when rubber gets cold it looseses it's resiliency. If rubber is cold it will not bounce back."
Well that’s exactly what the engineers did. They laid it all out for NASA and explained to them in very simple terms that this could happen. It was NASA that signed off on it. They were more concerned with getting that shuttle up then the actual safety of the crew
NASA had this pitfall since STS-1 when they kept damage on Columbia from Young and Crippen that called for them to eject over Edwards AFB. (Of which John Young said he most definitely would have bailed out with Crip.) NASA knew the shuttle was underfunded and overpromised and they couldn't get off the ponzi scheme of their self-rationalizing processes.
I was a young woman babysitting my infant nephew for the day. I remember feeding him his bottle and then he and I were alone in the house watching the launch. When it happened, I remember being stunned and wishing there was another adult to talk to . This was before cell phones !
My grandmother and I watched this together, we both loved aircraft, she retired from Lockheed. We both commented at the same time, it looks like it’s lifting off slower than usual.
Travelling into space is inherently risky, as so much can go wrong, even if missions are perfectly planned and executed. However, what is unforgivable is to become "risk accepting" at the detriment of the crew and the mission. Safety always and every time has to be priority number 1 - nothing is more important than this when sending astronauts into space. We also need to remember all those astronauts & cosmonauts who lost their lives in pushing the boundaries for the human race - they are the real heroes who gave their lives for the good of mankind. RIP folks, and fly high, very high.
These people who overruled the engineers should have been told "Ok. But realize one thing; if the shuttle explodes due to the O ring failure because of the cold temperatures, and these people die you WILL be criminally charged and prosecuted and you WILL do 25 years prison time. Are you SURE you want to overrule these engineers, who have told you the shuttle will explode, if you try to launch in these cold temperatures? Here's your ONE chance to decide what's most important in your life." Edit I guarantee you they would have a different perspective come launch day
I was 17 at the time and we all watched it happen live at school that morning. There were a couple minutes of stunned silence. It took a while to wrap your mind around what just happened.
I was in science class in middle school. I remember kids just walking out of classrooms, everyone silent and stunned. Teachers crying. I think we may have gone home for the day.
I was 14 years old and this was the first thing in my life that really hit home. It was the first major news event that shook me up. Teachers were put on a pedastal where I grew up then, and Krista exemplified what it was to be a teacher in every way. Reagan was correct, teachers were our best and our brightest. I miss those days.
The sad thing here, apart from this actual tragedy of course, is that while NASA learned this lesson, they only did so for a short time, before they fell back into their old habits, and in 2002, they lost another seven crew members on Columbia through _"normalization of deviance"_ - in that case, knowing about the tendency for chunks of foam insulation to break off during launch, but not investigating or modelling the possible consequences. Now I know the private space haters will not like to hear this, but one of the reasons why the SpaceX Falcon 9 team has such a good safety record (so far) is because they have a philosophy that their engineers are to be insulated/isolated from pressure from the bean counters - it is the engineering team who have the final say on launch go no/go decisions. This is why it so often happens that their launches are aborted at the last moment. That might be annoying, but its why they have (as of today) a 257/259 (99.23%) success rate for Falcon 9.
The private space people are, by comparison, derivative only and like little boys playing with expensive toys. Better to eradicate mosquitoes or end world hunger.
If used wisely technology like Falcon 9 launches can help with world hunger as satellites can monitor the environment and help with crop forecasting. Too many people do not realize how important space technology is to helping deal with problems, and world hunger would not end if rocket launches and spaceflight ended right now.
@@mcmlxii4419 Yes, the Columbia accident happened in 2003 but this is an unnecessary nitpick. The falling _"back into their old habits"_ began well before that, in at least 2002 if not earlier. They knew large chunks of foam were falling off at supersonic speeds by at least the fall of 2001. They saw it happening on the launches of STS-105 (Discovery, Aug 2001), and again on STS-109 (Columbia, March 2002), and again on STS-113 (Endeavour, Nov 2002, the mission immediately before the Columbia disaster). They did nothing about it - this was a deviation from the expected profile of the flight - they normalized that deviation, and the seven orbiter crew members paid with their lives.
I was working for a electrical contractor on a condominium on the beach in satellite beach florida the day this happened... I was on the 10th floor Working in one of the units. I had seen the launches before So I didn't go out to Watch . after finishing up what I was doing. I walked out onto the walkway. And I saw traffic pulled over on The side of A1A And people out of their cars looking up toward the north.. Then I looked down and saw a big crowd of construction workers in front of the condo looking up to the Northeast.. I walked down to The north end Of the walkway And looked up and saw the big swirling plumes from the solid rocket boosters.. I knew something had happened. I looked below me and saw 4 guys… I yelled down to them what had happened And they yelled back that the shuttle had blown up. Sad day in history.
I’m 71yo retired Corporate Pilot and was based in NY. On a cross country trip to LA I was lucky enough to see a test of a solid rocket booster over Utah. I’m at 36,000 feet and I could swear I felt our aircraft shake. Maybe it was my imagination but I prefer to think it was real.
I was in elementary school, in Florida, and watched the shuttle explode with my very eyes. I will never forget that day. It's as clear as 9/11 in my memory. 😢
Those were some of the most profound words by McDonald: pressure on the workforce to not speak up will definitely be less cost effective than if they would just listen and make those very difficult decisions to not move forward
The highest level managers and engineers over-ruled the strong recommendations of the employees that were doing their job and that included the weather conditions at liftoff. Add to that all of the school children watching live on TV, with a school teacher as part of the 7-person crew. Tragedy of multiple, dramatic proportions.
I was in 3rd grade... We all knew there was a teacher on board. As kids in school it felt like we were a part of that. To see it turn out the way that it did effected us deeply.
I was 6, but I remember it really clearly. I was on the floor at my cousins house, we both had chicken pox, while we all watched it happen. I remember my uncle sitting on the couch and just saying, "oh my God". What really warped my mind was years later when they announced that the crew most likely lived through the explosion and died on impact between the pod and the ocean. 😢
I remember being class my whole elementary school had TVs in their rooms I could fully understand what was going on crying, but my teacher start crying another kid crying. No one went over until I got home and my brother and sister told me then I start crying.
I still vividly remember the morning this happened. A service coordinator in our office yelled out, "hey guys, the space shuttle just blew up". At first I thought she was kidding. As soon as I saw she wasn't, the first thing I said was, "Well, I guess they kept flying until an SRB finally failed". As more info came out, my work colleagues wondered how I was instantly so sure it was an SRB failure. I followed everything space related from the time I was in elementary school. At the time of the loss of Challenger, it was no big secret that the SRB's were a serious failure risk on launch, especially at low temperatures. Several years before Challenger, I had a cartoon in a space related publication that pointed some of this out. NASA was living on borrowed time with the entire shuttle design and many insiders knew it. Prior to the loss of Challenger, there were other missions that had near burn throughs of the "O" ring seals. I think either STS 8 or 9 was one of those near failures. NASA's handlin of the "O" ring issue was just like how NASA management continued to ignore heat tile damage on multpile launches right up until they lost a second shuttle on reentry. NASA engineers knew these problems needed fixing but they were overridden and silenced by get it done management.
It was STS-8, using Challenger and the first Shuttle night launch, that had a near disaster with the Solid Rocket Boosters, although the cause was not related to O ring failure. STS 8 was lucky. STS 51L was not.
I was 20 and was just a month away from expecting my first son. I was on the edge of my seat watching this launch. When it broke apart, at first I wasn’t sure what I was looking at. If it was just the rocket boosters separating or what was happening. Such a sad day in NASA history
I was only 4 on this day, in preschool. My brother was watching, like all school age kids were that day. His teacher was actually one of the finalists in the program. He was in 3rd grade. I didn’t see the launch, that I remember, until I was an adult. But remember Christmas the month before, being cold and it snowing at Disney World. I’m sure my parents left the TV off that day, bad enough my brother watched it…why relive it?
I was in the 4th grade when this happened. We didn't find out about it until after lunch when our teacher came in crying and told us what happened. We lived just outside of Houston at the time.
Growing up with imperial units makes it difficult to comprehend metric units. Pausing and converting units from metric to imperial while watching videos like this is difficult. I wish they implemented a simple text overlay for Americans who were taught imperial as we grew up.
Welcome to what the rest of the world has had to deal with since forever :'). Jokes aside, I agree. If something is meant to or is likely to be seen by an international audience, it feels like such a small, simple detail to just either state it (which we all know is done sometimes anyway) or put a quick simple text with the conversion.
I was at lunch in 6th grade the day this happened. I was watching it going up then the 'puff' as I call it. Following the puff cloud came 'Y' shaped split. I was confused for a few minutes until the principal came on the intercom and told us the shuttle had exploded. All classes were suspended and we were sent to study hall until they could arrange for the buses to get us or notify our families.
In 1986, they didn’t have immediate counseling at schools, etc. School was in session next day and there was a brief assembly to watch Pres. Reagan and we sang some patriotic songs plus Amazing Grace. Then we returned to class as usual.
1:54 Disgusting! ….smh 🤦♂️ Thank goodness people have learned (for the most part), any situation that can turn catastrophic, can’t have any minor detail brushed aside for stupid SCHEDULING !
Looking back, it's actually insane they even lat that teacher on board. Is there any record that someone from NASA sat down with her and literally said, "this is rocket science, but it's new rocket science and you could possibly die on this trip"? I would imagine she was surrounded by Yes Men who did all they could to ensure her this was a routine thing and that danger was minimal since they needed the PR of a teacher going to space.
She was highly trained just like the other astronauts. I'm sure she and her family were fully aware of the dangers. Just like we are all aware of a plane can crash when we get on.
I remember this day very well this happened a day after my 10th birthday i was at school at Hyde Park Elementary School in Jacksonville Florida My dad was at work at Navel Air Station Cecil Field just west of Jacksonville He recalls standing on the roof of his Squadron Hanger and he saw the entire event unfold he told me he watched the shuttle explode and i do remember it was freezing that morning my mom had to bundle me up before she sent me off to school and after the tragedy happened the Principal came on the school intercom to tell the entire school the breaking news
As technical as it was it was a marvelous feat of engineering. Nothing has come close to it since. The Buran Energia was definitely a better design. To bad it lost its financing.
Having already spent the money to design and produce the Energia and Buran I would be surprised if one of its successors was not still flying today, had the bureaucracy not pulled the pin.
I was a kid growing up in Orlando florida leading up to the challenger explosion .my next door neighbor was a NASA electrical engineer for years working his way up to the 2nd in command at Cape Canaverals Kennedy Space Central .the Kennedy crew were in charge of everything to getting the shuttle off the ground and once it made liftoff everything switches over to Houston making them in complete control once the shuttle is the air .my neighbors name was either Peter Minderman .i wanted to say it was Donald Minderman but about positive it was Peter .if any one on here was actually a Nasa employee and have heard of Mr Minderman please let me kno .i do kno he passed away back some years ago but think his son Donald Minderman my childhood best friend followed in his fathers footsteps and was a engineer for NASA
1986 was not a good year! Late January 1986, the NASA Space Shuttle Challenger exploded. Then later in spring, April 26, 1986, a nuclear reactor at Chernobyl went out of control and exploded. The Cold War was still continuing. Both Super Power countries suffered greatly!
I was In The third grade watching the lift off in an assembly…Didn’t realize what I was actually watching or fully understood..I got they died and went home and watched all day..My little sister told me it was ok because they were already close to heaven 😢
The engineers explaining how the rubber in the o-rings actually work, using everyday examples, was really amazing to listen to.
Being able to tie an extremely technical idea to a more simple one always helps me understand easier. Super cool of them to take the time to explain.
That’s the kicker part about it! The issue of the orings failing during launch in cold temps isn’t a difficult concept to understand! A demonstration shouldn’t even be needed, a simple explanation should have sufficed for everyone to understand launching in those weather conditions is an absolute NO GO! *PERIOD!* idk why they even bothered consulting the engineers if nasa mgmt was going to do whatever the hell they wanted anyway! They simply didn’t care, more than willing to carelessly gamble away the lives of 7 beautiful ppl without a 2nd thought and then chalk it up to “ this is the unfortunate part of space exploration “ 😒
I was 19 years old, and my dad was almost 56. The same age I am now. I remember getting up early with him to see the launch, and when I saw the white smoke going to different directions I turned to him and said," it wasn't supposed to look like that was it? Dad?" And he said," no honey. They're gone."
My dad passed away at 93 over the summer, and I can still remember this as clear as day. Rest in peace to all of the challenger crew and rest in peace forever, Dad. ❤
I had just turned 19 only 4 days earlier. I was in class in college. Between classes I watched what I thought was normal replays on the big tv in the student union. I saw the multitrails & thought "that doesn't look right"
@@beckysegundo6688 Hi, I totally get it. I wasn't really sure what it was supposed to look like, so I was confused until I looked at my dad.
RIP to your dad and the passengers on Challenger. I was in middle school at music class when it happened.
@@mikebucketsIt's a memory that you will never forget for the rest of your life, sad to say.
I was 18, almost 19, in my senior year of high school, about to write mid-term exams. I had an anxious day, more about the exams, then learned about this disaster in the evening news. 😢
Almost 40 years later and this still gets to me
Me, too.
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This happened on my 24th birthday. It was the first event in my lifetime that was one of those, "I remember exactly where I was when this happened". I was over at my friend's house, picking her up so we could go riding our horses together and her t.v. was on while I waited for her to get ready. Of course the launch was on every channel and I was interested in it because of the teacher on board. I remember so distinctly calling out to my friend (who was in her bedroom), "OMG COME HERE!!! It just blew up!!!". She had no idea what I was talking about so she came walking in, and we both just sat there on her couch, holding each other's hands as we watched it again and again and just kept whispering, "Is this really happening?". I'm 61 years old, and it was the only time in my life that something shocked me to the bones like that... until 9/11.
You lived through the shuttle failure wayergate 9/11 covid and jan6 the stories you must have omg 😮
@@sequillawilliams8809omg. This is nowhere near the horror of 9/11. People are just being dramatic. Its not 9/11. It's not a pearl harbor. It's sad and horrible but sad and horrible things happen daily. Things earth shattering happen rarely (thank God), and those are the horrors that take pieces of your soul. The holocaust is another. This is bad. But anyone who tries to make it more are just ridiculous.
I was 8 when 9/11 happened and I remember it almost identical to the way you remember the challenger disaster. I remember where I was and how it seemed like a dream. It couldn’t be real. To this day I can’t shake the feeling I felt watching the towers fall … live in front of my eyes. It changed something in me. I never got that back.
Same here, sis. I was kind of confused when I saw it because I wasn't sure if the smoke was supposed to look like that. That's when I turned to my dad and asked him if it was supposed to look like that and that's when he told me that it had exploded. It was such a preventable tragedy. I used to have horses too! Those were some happy times in my life.
@@sequillawilliams8809 I think of things like that all the time. My great-grandmother who was born in 1895, so everything from horses and wagons to a man lending on the moon in her lifetime! My dad lived through the depression, world war II, the Korean war which he was stationed in Korea for. And then the Kennedy assassination, water gate, the shuttle, and 9/11. And then of course January 6th. He passed away last June at age 93. I'm 57 and even I have lived through some history in my lifetime.
I was home that day with the flu and was channel surfing, came onto CNN almost an hour before launch time. I thought I would be lucky to get this historic moment on video. I put a brand new tape into the VCR and hit the Record button. I got everything before, during, and after the disaster, including President Reagan's address about the disaster later that night. I still have this tape, still as clear as the day it happened, and it has been transferred to DVD as well. Such a sad and shocking event. My then-husband called a few minutes after it happened to find out if it were true. Through tears I told him it was, and I was taping it. He watched the video (still recording) when he got home that afternoon. I went back to work 2 days later, and the mood was very somber and sad. RIP Challenger 7. Never forget. I play the DVD on the anniversary every year. (Jan Griffiths).
Thats based af for real for real. You should make a mix tape out of it.
Whatever this footage is, I hope we get to see a full look at it one day.
I wish I had taped any of the launches, especially this one. I remember scheduling my morning work break just before the launch. I could not believe my eyes when it broke up.
I really hope you upload it, for historical records sake. A continuous recorning of all those things would be pretty amazing, actually
I remember watching it in school. It was the first time they had TV in school for me. I remember how quiet the whole school got for the rest of the day. Such a sad experience for young kids to see..
Think this is the first time I have been made aware that the crew were alive after the explosion. That they all most likely died instantly on impact. Those last few minutes must have been horrific for the crew.
It is more likely they were unconscious and never knew their fate.
Yes I heard it before..
There’s a strong possibility that the crew cabin didn’t lose pressurization. If the cabin didn’t depressurize, they would’ve remained conscious throughout the entire descent. In that situation, I’m sure the last 2 minutes 45 seconds were terrifying. The only “good thing” about that scenario is the fact that the death upon impact was instantaneous and they didn’t feel a thing.
They're still alive NOW..
@@dukeford8893 they had on their emergency oxygen masks on. Pilot was still flying it.
They put a team together afterwards to see what went wrong. They didn’t need a team they already knew in advance what the problem was. No one wanted to admit it. Putting a team together was the cover up. Bless this man and his integrity.
Exactly, this is why Astronaut Dr. Sally Ride went behind the Rogers Commissions back. Reagan had ordered Rogers to go easy on NASA. Dr. Ride secretly obtained the Thiokol evidence and enlisted Air Force Major Don Katyna and Nobel Physicist Dr Richard Feynman to back and ream both Thiokol and NASA management against the wall. When Rogers found out what they were doing he immediately made it a closed session, in spite of the openness proclaimed. The American public was literally denied their "Watergate" moment regarding the space shuttle program.
I’d be willing to bet nearly every department thought they knew what went wrong, and thought they were at fault.
It’s a complicated system and it can always be “safer.” Everyone’s always worried about something.
These guys just happened to be right, so it’s the story we hear.
@@mikemck4796sure, every department had their worries, but the administration leaders knew that they had just pressured Morton Thiokal to back off on their warning. Every single person familiar with the whole situation knew exactly what had just happened.
@@mikebronicki8264Hell yeah, the one engineer told his wife the night before the launch "We just killed 7 astronauts." He, and other engineers KNEW what was going to happen BEFORE it happened. There was no need to investigate it. It was already investigated.
Well one reason they got away with it is because no one is naming names. Not even the people speaking how they saw it coming in this documentary.
I remember being a freshman in HS, and we all gathered to watch the challenger launch... the first teacher was on board. But i will never forget the crying, screams, and general heartbreaking feeling as we watched it explode.
I was also a freshman that year. My biology teacher went to the teacher's lounge to see the launch. She came back to the classroom crying and screaming "her babies were watching!", referring to Christa McAuliffe because her kids were right there at the Cape. Such a dark day. I also remember Reagan's address to the nation and how heart felt that was.
@@JeepersCreepers2013 can you even imagine? Those poor babies watched with the world as their mother died. Truly horrific and heartbreaking😔
A friend of who used to work for NASA launch control in the early 80'a told me about one of the boosters having an catastrophic o ring failure 3 missions before the Challenger disaster when a 6ft by 9 inch section of the booster seal burned through, but it just happened to be facing the opposite of the fuel tank- so they just kept launghing without bothering to redesigning the seals !!?? PERFECT-
I’ve always believed that the officials at NASA should’ve been charged with a crime for what happened to Challenger. They were made aware over and over again about this issue and how deadly it could be but they willfully ignored it. They put the lives of those astronauts in danger simply because they wanted to stay on schedule. They really should’ve been charged with manslaughter or negligent homicide. What they did was so willfully negligent that the deaths of the astronauts should’ve been viewed as a crime.
Reagan should have resigned, also. He created the pressure and corruption.
Alas, they'd get off with the technicality that the astronauts knew the risks when they flew, and the signed document saying that it was okay to launch.
The managers responsible though were removed from their jobs and were offered other roles where they'd never have that influence again. They all retired instead, because they knew that their careers and reputation were over.
@@beauferret5414 Unfortunately, Ronald Reagan wasn't impeached and imprisoned for creating the problem.
It's never that easy. They had pressure to launch from all sorts of places; even the White House itself.
@@playgroundchooserstill doesn't make it right
Typical complacency from nasa and the powers above
I watched this live while at work in Whittier, California . . . The whole office froze.
Money and Power - Always the prime motivators, showed it's face again. Until we can balance safety into that equation, it will go on . . .
RIP, our seven heros...
🤣wtf does a teacher going to space have to do with money and power? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏼♂🤦🏼♂🤦🏼♂🤦🏼♂🤦🏼♂🤦🏼♂🤦🏼♂
More like blown up US ego & patriotism
May they RIP.
Yes, I agree.
@@napoleonbonerfart278Reagan forced NASA to carry "payloads” and make money to get their budget approved. The 'go' decision that killed Challenger was made to keep the payload schedule on track.
I was an employee of Morton Thiokol at the time and I was working on O-ring test blocks. I don't like the phrase "engineering disaster" because it should be "a management disaster"
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I doubt that.
@@DrShaikZ Thanks for sharing. No one cares.
@@alecaquino4306I didn't share anything
It really doesn't matter if it was engineering or management. Both knew it could happen. I know it's "guilt by association" but the general public couldn't differentiate
I was woken by my mother because it was the end of the xmas holidays in NZ and we watched in disbelief the coverage of the disaster all day.
The underlying problem is whistle blowers lose their careers, and their reputation is damaged beyond repair. This was true with Alaska flight 261 when an engineer blew the whistle to the FAA over safety concerns at Alaskan Airlines. He was proven right with the tragic loss of 261, yet no management types were ever prosecuted for their gross negligence.
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A suit executive should never veto an engineer.
The executives were worried about losing the contract.
The engineers were worried about losing human lives.
They cared about lives but executives generally have a blind self confidence and dismiss fears. It is handy when everything works perfectly...
The executives were pressured by NASA bureaucrats, accountable to no one, like every other government scumbag, because they were afraid that congress might reduce their budget.
agreed….. this was just horrific
Absolutely astonishing, how much catastrophe was caused by group-think, dismissal of expert opinion and putting task-schedules ahead of people's lives!
I was motivated to read Professor Feynman's "What Do You Care What Other People Think? - and learned the value of holding that same attitude in my own life.
I remember this so well. It was indeed so sad day & the loss of seven amazing people who was just irreplacable.
I was watching from our home in Norge then & although so many year ago, once brought back to mind, feels just like the yesterday.
May these 7 people RIP.
Tusen takk for sharing.
Not only was this disaster criminally negligent, costing 7 lives of people who depended on NASA doing their utmost to keep the mission safe, but how many more suffered because of this negligence? The astronauts' family and friends, NASA personnel who knew what was wrong and were powerless to do more than they did to alert the higher ups, and the millions of children here and abroad who witnessed the whole thing on live tv? And honestly, I feel for the poor teachers who watched one of their own die on live tv, then were left trying to help the children in their care cope with the trauma.
What an awful mess we all went through because some people at NASA placed their precious launch schedule about the safety of their astronauts. 😨
I got exactly 2 seconds in the this video, and my face just fell flat when I saw the "Challenger" monicker.... I witnessed this live, on TV because I had the flu and was at my Grandparents' house when it happened, and had to explain, as an 11 year old child, I immediately said when the booster blew up as we watched, "That's not right..." "Nannie, Papa, that's not what's supposed to happen," to people 2 generations separated from me. I still look back like it hurt to do so, as they had seen the moon landing 6 years before I was even born... Nannie said I started crying about 10 minutes later.
My english teacher in junior highschool actually was a student of Krista McAuliffe. She was always choked up on the anniversary of the disaster.
I'm also glad NASA was taken to account for this, they 100% caused this accident, no doubt.
Ronald Reagan and his administration of corruption and disdain for experts and professionalism was the primary culprit, imo.
Krista was my mom like frfr ong
They should have been jailed for that
Yep, no doubt. One of the teachers where my ex wife went to grade school was a finalist to go on this. Needless to say she was especially upset by this; she came close to being on that mission.
RUclips bullshitters, you have no no shame lol
9:24
Executives caring more about money and losing government contracts than the safety of the astronauts.
Man it's been a while, I was at Lewis elementary in Iowa watching it live in the gym when this happened, tears me up and I was confused then. Now he just tears me up to see it again.
This wasn't a disaster, it was criminal negligence.
YES BOTH DISASTER DO TO NEGLIGENCE
it was a murder-suicide for sure.
Exactly my thought!!!
NASA logic was as Soviet as the CCCP during Chernobyl
@@leelunk8235 Due*
I watched it from home I was 20. It took me a few minutes to even realize what happened. I was horrified. It seemed unreal. Love to all who witness Ed or lost someone in this traumatic event
You must be old now frfr
@@SunBear69420 your a genius
I’m not calling you out or anything because it seems to be a common theme that many people (even the families on the ground) didn’t realize it had exploded right away, but I can’t help but wonder why that was the case. While I wasn’t alive at the time (born in ‘98), it looked pretty clearly like a catastrophic explosion to me the first time I saw video of it.
Maybe it was just a case of the brain trying to find a rationalization, not wanting to accept that an unspeakable tragedy had just occurred.
@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 For me it was because I had never seen a shuttle lift off before. At first I thought that's what it looked like when it separated. Now I watch it and realize something went wrong. Have a great day!
The Space Shuttle was such a stupid and dangerous concept, the result of politicians and bureaucrats getting into the business of test pilots and engineers. It's amazing that the Shuttle made a single successful flight, let alone 135 of them. It says lots about the skill and dedication of the people who did the hands-on work in the program.
Engineers should be able to override managers. Managers overriding engineers is a recipe for this kind of disaster.
True but who should override the white house.. interference came feom the top for this because the white house had a press conference..my thoughts are even if they wanted to call it off they were pressured
How no one went to prison is absolutely ridiculous
Because am sure they were getting pressure from the white house to launch...how do you fight that......they said the president has a press conference which include the event
Challenger actually survived the conflagration we saw on TV (which was deemed not combustive). Rather, it broke apart afterward due to tumbling at Mach 1+ speeds, for which it was never designed for. This is why the crew initially survived the conflagration we saw on TV and activated their emergency oxygen packs. Specifically, the controls belonging to Onizuka and Resnik had been manually switched to the ON position when the cockpit was recovered. There was no accidental way for this to happen. These are all official findings noted in the Rogers Investigation Commission Report.
Yes daddy
This is PURE NEGLIGENCE on the hands of the executives 😢 😡
This was not just a negligent act where someone didn't perform up to standard, these deaths were the direct result of a reckless disregard for human life-- a deliberate choice to place others in unjustifiable and preventable peril. They not only knew about the danger, in no uncertain terms, but they knew that there was a high degree of likelihood that their actions would result in serious injury, or in this case death. Unfortunately this sort of thing happens often in bureaucracy; decisions get made based on someone protecting their power base and position rather than accomplishing the stated mission. Often times the person who is making a decision where bad results are highly likely may believe that they can blame any undesirable results on someone else-- a scapegoat or even diffuse the blame among many people; this kind of thing can clearly highlight individuals who are not afraid of doing the wrong thing, but only in getting caught or blamed. Unfortunately a bureaucracy is inevitable in government, elsewise executive functions wouldn't get done; regretfully in this case the necessary evil of bureaucracy resulted in tragedy.
Wow, this made me tear up. I was 10 years old. When we returned from lunch, our substitute teacher said he had bad news for us -we thought it was about our teacher who had been out sick. It was not. He showed us video of the shuttle launch and explained what happened. Honestly, we could have done without the coverage with no mental health support, but alas, it was the 80s, and everyone just expected us to buck up. I was numb. I was just glad it wasn't about our teacher. But it was about someone else's teacher...I felt very sad for those children. Completely avoidable tragedy.
The tradgedy had nothing to do with exploration and discovery but was yet another failure by administrators to follow the rules. The decision makers for this launch in contradiction to previously agreed no-go points should still be serving a prison sentence for murder of 7 people.
And the guy who told the truth was demoted... This dynamic occurs repeatedly in organizations large and small...
The Soviets followed the same playbook (deny, coverup, and punish truth tellers) when Chernobyl happened a few months later. It turns out communists and capitalists do have things in common.
They should have rolled another shuttle out the next day loaded it with NASA executives and launched on an even colder day. That would have fixed NASA management...
Had I been in power I would’ve fired the top management that signed the order of go ahead.
If that is your mentality, then you would never be put in charge of a coffee maker.
Perfect!
I’ll take Ignorant Comments for $800, Alex
Gently tiptoeing around the single manager responsible for the go ahead order. And those who hired that manager.
Why have engineers if you don’t listen to them?
Exactly.
Because in the real world, risk vs reward is a factor. Sometimes people are blinded by the reward.
Wow, I remember this. I was in college, walking to class and I heard some other students talking about it as I passed. So, I skipped class and headed over to the Student Union where they had a TV room. Up to that point, the shuttle program had been safe, almost routine, so I was shocked by what happened. Years later with Columbia, I was no longer shocked.
That was heart breaking to see!!
What's more heart breaking is that it something u still beLIEve
@@GodOfFuck777 Found another conspiracy idiot.
As much as I respect these engineers for standing up I still can't believe not one person said "look, when rubber gets cold it looseses it's resiliency. If rubber is cold it will not bounce back."
Well that’s exactly what the engineers did. They laid it all out for NASA and explained to them in very simple terms that this could happen. It was NASA that signed off on it. They were more concerned with getting that shuttle up then the actual safety of the crew
NASA had this pitfall since STS-1 when they kept damage on Columbia from Young and Crippen that called for them to eject over Edwards AFB. (Of which John Young said he most definitely would have bailed out with Crip.) NASA knew the shuttle was underfunded and overpromised and they couldn't get off the ponzi scheme of their self-rationalizing processes.
Exactly!!!!!!!!!
They couldn't have said it any simpler well maybe if they wrote it in crayon
Then maybe nasal would have understood
I was a young woman babysitting my infant nephew for the day. I remember feeding him his bottle and then he and I were alone in the house watching the launch. When it happened, I remember being stunned and wishing there was another adult to talk to . This was before cell phones !
My grandmother and I watched this together, we both loved aircraft, she retired from Lockheed. We both commented at the same time, it looks like it’s lifting off slower than usual.
Travelling into space is inherently risky, as so much can go wrong, even if missions are perfectly planned and executed. However, what is unforgivable is to become "risk accepting" at the detriment of the crew and the mission. Safety always and every time has to be priority number 1 - nothing is more important than this when sending astronauts into space. We also need to remember all those astronauts & cosmonauts who lost their lives in pushing the boundaries for the human race - they are the real heroes who gave their lives for the good of mankind. RIP folks, and fly high, very high.
These people who overruled the engineers should have been told "Ok. But realize one thing; if the shuttle explodes due to the O ring failure because of the cold temperatures, and these people die you WILL be criminally charged and prosecuted and you WILL do 25 years prison time. Are you SURE you want to overrule these engineers, who have told you the shuttle will explode, if you try to launch in these cold temperatures? Here's your ONE chance to decide what's most important in your life."
Edit I guarantee you they would have a different perspective come launch day
@21:30 this has got to be one of the best descriptions of what a launch would feel like I've ever heard
No launch below 53 degrees.
It does not take a rocket scientist
to understand that.
I was in the 6th grade in Mrs. Greenwalds' English class watching the shuttle go up on TV .... I'm 47 years old now
I was watvhing it when that happened to them!! 😢😢😢
The whole country was watching!
7:51
Case closed.
A group of experts gave their recommendation.
I was 17 at the time and we all watched it happen live at school that morning. There were a couple minutes of stunned silence. It took a while to wrap your mind around what just happened.
Heartbreaking.
I was in science class in middle school. I remember kids just walking out of classrooms, everyone silent and stunned. Teachers crying. I think we may have gone home for the day.
I think you meant to say: The Second Most Watched Disaster in Human History. The 9/11 attacks has definitely surpassed that.
There is a great documentary on this called challenger: a rush to launch
Very interesting documentary. Codus to the engineers who had the guts to speak up.
I was 14 years old and this was the first thing in my life that really hit home. It was the first major news event that shook me up. Teachers were put on a pedastal where I grew up then, and Krista exemplified what it was to be a teacher in every way. Reagan was correct, teachers were our best and our brightest. I miss those days.
3:15
How are they risking their careers by making sure astronauts are safe?! 😡
I saw it on tv back in 1985, while in the 6th grade
The sad thing here, apart from this actual tragedy of course, is that while NASA learned this lesson, they only did so for a short time, before they fell back into their old habits, and in 2002, they lost another seven crew members on Columbia through _"normalization of deviance"_ - in that case, knowing about the tendency for chunks of foam insulation to break off during launch, but not investigating or modelling the possible consequences.
Now I know the private space haters will not like to hear this, but one of the reasons why the SpaceX Falcon 9 team has such a good safety record (so far) is because they have a philosophy that their engineers are to be insulated/isolated from pressure from the bean counters - it is the engineering team who have the final say on launch go no/go decisions. This is why it so often happens that their launches are aborted at the last moment. That might be annoying, but its why they have (as of today) a 257/259 (99.23%) success rate for Falcon 9.
The private space people are, by comparison, derivative only and like little boys playing with expensive toys. Better to eradicate mosquitoes or end world hunger.
@@nora22000 Whatever honey 🤣🙄
If used wisely technology like Falcon 9 launches can help with world hunger as satellites can monitor the environment and help with crop forecasting. Too many people do not realize how important space technology is to helping deal with problems, and world hunger would not end if rocket launches and spaceflight ended right now.
It was 2003, not 2002.
@@mcmlxii4419 Yes, the Columbia accident happened in 2003 but this is an unnecessary nitpick. The falling _"back into their old habits"_ began well before that, in at least 2002 if not earlier. They knew large chunks of foam were falling off at supersonic speeds by at least the fall of 2001. They saw it happening on the launches of STS-105 (Discovery, Aug 2001), and again on STS-109 (Columbia, March 2002), and again on STS-113 (Endeavour, Nov 2002, the mission immediately before the Columbia disaster). They did nothing about it - this was a deviation from the expected profile of the flight - they normalized that deviation, and the seven orbiter crew members paid with their lives.
As a gov. safety manager, this is almost textbook disaster: time pressure AND cavalier leadership. I remember watching in 1st grade, it was a trip…
I was working for a electrical contractor on a condominium on the beach in satellite beach florida the day this happened... I was on the 10th floor Working in one of the units. I had seen the launches before So I didn't go out to Watch . after finishing up what I was doing. I walked out onto the walkway.
And I saw traffic pulled over on The side of A1A And people out of their cars looking up toward the north.. Then I looked down and saw a big crowd of construction workers in front of the condo looking up to the Northeast.. I walked down to The north end Of the walkway And looked up and saw the big swirling plumes from the solid rocket boosters.. I knew something had happened. I looked below me and saw 4 guys… I yelled down to them what had happened And they yelled back that the shuttle had blown up. Sad day in history.
I’m 71yo retired Corporate Pilot and was based in NY. On a cross country trip to LA I was lucky enough to see a test of a solid rocket booster over Utah. I’m at 36,000 feet and I could swear I felt our aircraft shake. Maybe it was my imagination but I prefer to think it was real.
I was in elementary school, in Florida, and watched the shuttle explode with my very eyes. I will never forget that day. It's as clear as 9/11 in my memory. 😢
It’s outrageous that Challenger launched.
Those were some of the most profound words by McDonald: pressure on the workforce to not speak up will definitely be less cost effective than if they would just listen and make those very difficult decisions to not move forward
R.I.P. Allan McDonald.
The highest level managers and engineers over-ruled the strong recommendations of the employees that were doing their job and that included the weather conditions at liftoff. Add to that all of the school children watching live on TV, with a school teacher as part of the 7-person crew. Tragedy of multiple, dramatic proportions.
I was in 3rd grade... We all knew there was a teacher on board. As kids in school it felt like we were a part of that. To see it turn out the way that it did effected us deeply.
It is remarked at 21:00 that the shuttle weighed 20,000 metric tons. Surely that is 2,000 tons, AT MOST.
I know right? lol even a Boeing 737 only weighs 50 tons.
I was 6, but I remember it really clearly. I was on the floor at my cousins house, we both had chicken pox, while we all watched it happen. I remember my uncle sitting on the couch and just saying, "oh my God". What really warped my mind was years later when they announced that the crew most likely lived through the explosion and died on impact between the pod and the ocean. 😢
I remember being class my whole elementary school had TVs in their rooms I could fully understand what was going on crying, but my teacher start crying another kid crying. No one went over until I got home and my brother and sister told me then I start crying.
Always remember u our 7 space Heroes 💓💓💓💓💓
I still vividly remember the morning this happened. A service coordinator in our office yelled out, "hey guys, the space shuttle just blew up". At first I thought she was kidding. As soon as I saw she wasn't, the first thing I said was, "Well, I guess they kept flying until an SRB finally failed". As more info came out, my work colleagues wondered how I was instantly so sure it was an SRB failure. I followed everything space related from the time I was in elementary school. At the time of the loss of Challenger, it was no big secret that the SRB's were a serious failure risk on launch, especially at low temperatures. Several years before Challenger, I had a cartoon in a space related publication that pointed some of this out. NASA was living on borrowed time with the entire shuttle design and many insiders knew it. Prior to the loss of Challenger, there were other missions that had near burn throughs of the "O" ring seals. I think either STS 8 or 9 was one of those near failures. NASA's handlin of the "O" ring issue was just like how NASA management continued to ignore heat tile damage on multpile launches right up until they lost a second shuttle on reentry. NASA engineers knew these problems needed fixing but they were overridden and silenced by get it done management.
It was STS-8, using Challenger and the first Shuttle night launch, that had a near disaster with the Solid Rocket Boosters, although the cause was not related to O ring failure. STS 8 was lucky. STS 51L was not.
I was 20 and was just a month away from expecting my first son. I was on the edge of my seat watching this launch. When it broke apart, at first I wasn’t sure what I was looking at. If it was just the rocket boosters separating or what was happening. Such a sad day in NASA history
I was only 4 on this day, in preschool. My brother was watching, like all school age kids were that day. His teacher was actually one of the finalists in the program. He was in 3rd grade. I didn’t see the launch, that I remember, until I was an adult. But remember Christmas the month before, being cold and it snowing at Disney World. I’m sure my parents left the TV off that day, bad enough my brother watched it…why relive it?
my mom was 6, and my dad was 9, when the challenger exploded
Every bad event has an “I told you so” guy who proudly speaks about making the safest of possible bets.
To be fair, he really did tell them so.
@@lindsayschmidt2177 I have little doubt. On a project like that, I’d bet there was at least 20 people who said/warned about something.
Next up how NASA did it again in 2003 with Columbia based on all the same dynamics that brought Challenger down killing another group of astronauts...
Hummm..thats scary
I so remember watching being in SHOCK. I couldn't believe it was real....
The anticipation two years after to retry a launch must’ve been agonising
34:33 they often asked me... But did the astronaut know to ask the right question?
Interesting video
I was in the 4th grade when this happened. We didn't find out about it until after lunch when our teacher came in crying and told us what happened. We lived just outside of Houston at the time.
Growing up with imperial units makes it difficult to comprehend metric units. Pausing and converting units from metric to imperial while watching videos like this is difficult. I wish they implemented a simple text overlay for Americans who were taught imperial as we grew up.
Welcome to what the rest of the world has had to deal with since forever :'). Jokes aside, I agree. If something is meant to or is likely to be seen by an international audience, it feels like such a small, simple detail to just either state it (which we all know is done sometimes anyway) or put a quick simple text with the conversion.
I was at lunch in 6th grade the day this happened. I was watching it going up then the 'puff' as I call it. Following the puff cloud came 'Y' shaped split. I was confused for a few minutes until the principal came on the intercom and told us the shuttle had exploded. All classes were suspended and we were sent to study hall until they could arrange for the buses to get us or notify our families.
Soooo shocking, 👀 feel sad for the families,may all they may rest in peaces🎈🎈🎈💐💐🎈⭐♥️♥️♥️♥️
In 1986, they didn’t have immediate counseling at schools, etc. School was in session next day and there was a brief assembly to watch Pres. Reagan and we sang some patriotic songs plus Amazing Grace. Then we returned to class as usual.
1:54 Disgusting! ….smh 🤦♂️ Thank goodness people have learned (for the most part), any situation that can turn catastrophic, can’t have any minor detail brushed aside for stupid SCHEDULING !
The engineers warned NASA not to launch in below freezing temperatures. They also warned about the o ring problem. But NASA ignored them.
Did you know, Big Bird from Sesame Street was going to be on the Challenger but instead they sent a school teacher
Yes..heard so
WTF man....and the Count from Sesame Street was going to do the final countdown!!!😂
This bothers me still. Do irresponsible of NASA at the time to rush this launch. This whole tragedy could've been prevented 😢😢
Looking back, it's actually insane they even lat that teacher on board. Is there any record that someone from NASA sat down with her and literally said, "this is rocket science, but it's new rocket science and you could possibly die on this trip"? I would imagine she was surrounded by Yes Men who did all they could to ensure her this was a routine thing and that danger was minimal since they needed the PR of a teacher going to space.
She was highly trained just like the other astronauts. I'm sure she and her family were fully aware of the dangers. Just like we are all aware of a plane can crash when we get on.
I remember this day very well this happened a day after my 10th birthday i was at school at Hyde Park Elementary School in Jacksonville Florida My dad was at work at Navel Air Station Cecil Field just west of Jacksonville He recalls standing on the roof of his Squadron Hanger and he saw the entire event unfold he told me he watched the shuttle explode and i do remember it was freezing that morning my mom had to bundle me up before she sent me off to school and after the tragedy happened the Principal came on the school intercom to tell the entire school the breaking news
It was tragic, horrific to watch. I couldn’t sleep for aweek
As technical as it was it was a marvelous feat of engineering. Nothing has come close to it since. The Buran Energia was definitely a better design. To bad it lost its financing.
Having already spent the money to design and produce the Energia and Buran I would be surprised if one of its successors was not still flying today, had the bureaucracy not pulled the pin.
I remember when this happened. I remember Reagan's address that evening. It is a noted important event in my life.
I was a kid growing up in Orlando florida leading up to the challenger explosion .my next door neighbor was a NASA electrical engineer for years working his way up to the 2nd in command at Cape Canaverals Kennedy Space Central .the Kennedy crew were in charge of everything to getting the shuttle off the ground and once it made liftoff everything switches over to Houston making them in complete control once the shuttle is the air .my neighbors name was either Peter Minderman .i wanted to say it was Donald Minderman but about positive it was Peter .if any one on here was actually a Nasa employee and have heard of Mr Minderman please let me kno .i do kno he passed away back some years ago but think his son Donald Minderman my childhood best friend followed in his fathers footsteps and was a engineer for NASA
1986 was not a good year! Late January 1986, the NASA Space Shuttle Challenger exploded. Then later in spring, April 26, 1986, a nuclear reactor at Chernobyl went out of control and exploded. The Cold War was still continuing. Both Super Power countries suffered greatly!
They showed this to young kids in schools. Unlike today,
I was In The third grade watching the lift off in an assembly…Didn’t realize what I was actually watching or fully understood..I got they died and went home and watched all day..My little sister told me it was ok because they were already close to heaven 😢
I remember see the frozen shuttle. I went back to sleep. Later I woke up to the terror.
This was extremely sad 😢 I’ll never forget this.
Since then I have witnessed mega Rockets 🚀 launched, as I live near NASA.
It’s now 2023🇺🇸