For anybody confused about what is meant when the gentleman says he has a 100% handicap at 39:37. It's reference to the fact that he is burdened with his handicap for the remainder of his life. It is not referencing the severity of his handicap as a percentage. "100% handicap" should have been translated to "permanent" or "life long" handicap as this would have better represented the intended context of what the guy said. Different languages use different idioms and the context of this one was just poorly translated
im a military veteran with multiple disabilities. im currently in court fighting the VA for my disabilities. my knee, which causes me to fall on average once a month (causing injury) is only 10% according to the VA. i also have back, shoulder, and ankle problems FROM the knee being bad. and they are saying my PTSD is simply anxiety. i wish the US would look at disability the way the rest of the world did. there'd be a lot less veteran suicides....................... (hundreds and hundreds per year)
@catfishbilly Sorry, but you've got it wrong. First, the proper English term is disability. To qualify for any government support, this disability has to be of a permanent nature. Next comes the severity of ones disability, expressed in percentage points. This is most crucial, since it determines the level of support one is entitled to. 100% is the highest level possible in Germany.
it means he's 100% disabled for work probably, disability ratings affect compensation so they are usually tied to ability to work and support yourself.
@@ghomerhust u are just a liability as a disabled person, they will fight u to the ends of the world to pay u as little as possible, that's what governments do, they do not care about the individual, they care only about money and the big numbers.
As a retired firefighter, I have seen more than my share of deaths from fire accidents and a few train accidents. But I feel blessed to have never had to deal with train crashes involving multiple cars. I also hope and pray that these firefighters police and paramedics had people to talk to. For Myself fellow firefighters were my saving angels.
when i was stationed in germany, i witnessed a motorcycle hydroplane in rain and go under a tractor/trailer/lorry, and was killed. it was a horrible event, and we stopped to talk to the polizei when they got there to describe what we had seen. in my military life and post-military life, i've seen a lot of blood from accidents. and that motorcycle rider was the worst. i won't describe it but it's enough to get a video banned on youtube for sure. i cannot imagine what actual EMTs and other emergency responders see. i mean, i CAN, since im familiar with their line of work (dad and grampa were firefighters) but actually seeing it up front, something i have not witnessed. those first responders are simply amazing people, handling the stress and still working to fix it.
I can tell you the ICE trains are much safer because of this accident and trains are now jointed with single bogues holding up two train carragies prevents them from knife edging into each other like it it did in this crash!
Amen. I have 42+ years in public safety service. Too many bags with zippers and trips that left formaldehyde permeating my sinuses --- Wish we had a delete button. Blessings. Thanks for your service
I heard about this on the news when this happened. I couldn't believe that a fatigue crack could cause an accident. The story was heartbreaking, R.I.P Passengers onboard the train
On Friday 18th July 1997, I rode the Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen ICE train from Munich Hbf to Hamburg Hbf. At the time, I had no idea that months later, that the bogies of that same exact train, would crack, poke through the compartment floor, and completely derail that train. I consider myself fortunate that on 3rd June 1998, that I was at work, in Munich, with no intention to travel that day. This year I rode the ICE from Hannover to Hamburg, through Eschede, and felt relieved when the train left Eschede. While there, I thought of the people who were not so lucky from so many years ago. Although I was not part of the actual derailment, I feel I could have been involved in that same incident in July 1997.
Last year I took an ICE train from Munchen to Hannover. I wasn’t gonna pass Eschede but nonetheless, our train got stuck for two hours. Two trains ahead of us - an ICE train and an RE train - slightly collided against one another. They didn’t collide as much as scratch and scrape against one another. But this could’ve gotten so much worse. This line can’t catch a break 💀
They made a movie documentarty out of this which was so moving. To see/hear the story a man lie lightly injured beside his dead wife in one of the carriages, holding her hands still and not wanting to part, even when rescuers came for him. So sad. But it was heartwarming, how the little village of Eschede came together to help alive victims in the aftermath
Other sources say that the passenger didn’t notice that there was an emergency stop in his compartment (he was probably understandably freaked out), and he didn’t see one in the corridor either. Once he found a conductor, the conductor followed procedure which said to investigate before deciding whether to pull the brake. The train crashed just before he could see the problem for himself. But going to look at least probably saved his life, he’d been further back in the train before the passenger came to get him. People in the front cars were more likely to survive in this crash.
It angers me so much that no one was held responsible for the accident and the victims had to fight for compensation! But is´nt that typical? My heart goes out to all of them, its a real shame and adding to the already severe trauma. The memorial was beautiful and may these people never be forgotten. My thoughts is with the survivors and the victims families. ❤
This is so sad for everyone. My heart and prayers go out to everyone involved. I was stationed in Germany, back when there was still an East and West Germany. The people there were some of the nicest and caring people I've ever met. ❤
I think it needs to be understood how much Germans love rules and order. If the orders were to notify someone then that was what they would do because they trusted that these things had been tested and failsafes had been applied, since 9.9 times out of 10 they are, Germans love testing things 100 times over. This 'mistake' was clearly a side effect of DeutscheBahn not testing something properly and nothing any passenger or ticket officer could have done would have helped this.
What a grizzly event for the emergency services to deal with. My heart goes out to those who helped, and of course to the families who lost loved ones.
Having watched numerous disasters videos it seems that most all companies never step up to help the injured and compensate the famiilies for the deaths and injuries of there loved ones.
Heartbreaking. The trauma was widespread, to the survivors, the families of all the passengers and the responders / medical personnel. The pain for these people is incomprehensible. The saddest of all is that those responsible were not held accountable. The legal system failed. Those who promised to compensate victims did not, or begrudgingly dragged out payments.
Death as a number is never as impactful as seeing the chiselled names and details of each person taken too soon... The magnificence of the pink spring blossoms must look exquisite...painfully beautiful... 🇿🇦
Like everything else, train wheels need to be tested under conditions more severe than it would ever normally encounter. Heavier weight, higher speed, longer run, environmental conditions from very cold to very hot. Thy are often tested in laboratories. You don't just put something you think will work, then hope for the best.
This might sound terrible but if that wheel rim that shot up into the coach would have impaled the passenger rather than just the seat someone would have most certainly pulled the emergency stop before the crash.
Japan: Invents high speed rail, comemorates 60 years of it with never having an accident related death (one person ever died in one Shinkansen .. it was a suicide, the man put fire on himself on the train). Germany: starts 30 years later with slower trains, manages to have the most catastrophic high-speed train in History in only 7 years of service.
Also germany: uses a resilient wheel to maximize comfort on their intercity express train when its obviously wont gonna age well as standard monoblock wheels
A similar accident occurred in Granville, Sydney NSW Australia but it technically wasn’t a high speed train. The train was travelling too fast after descending the Blue Mountains and came around a bend too fast, striking a bridge which brought it down on top of the train killing many passengers. It was one of Australia’s worst rail disasters and lead to many changes to construction and maintenance of railways in Australia and around the world.
This is an absolutely tragic accident and ofc ppl will forever say "I would have" - it's very easy to say those things after the fact, but we don't know how we'll act in the moment until we're actually in that situation ourselves. As much as I want to say that I would have pulled the emergency brake as soon as I saw something pierce the bottom of the carriage between my feet, I haven't actually heard if that was an option. I know after the Gare de Lyon accident in France, some trains were redesigned so that passengers couldn't pull the emergency brake anymore. So the passenger may have had to get a conductor/security officer to pull it. Or maybe they could have pulled it themselves. I've never been to Germany, let alone been on their high speed trains, so I don't know what the situation with the emergency brake was.
The owners of the train should compensate the passengers, families, and all those who lost someone or were injured in this crash. It's only fair these people will suffer for the rest of their lives, either from the loss, injury, both physical and mental issues. Even though money or other compensation won't bring back the people and lives that were impacted by the crash, they deserve something to make their lives easier. Prayers and condolences to every one effected by this crash.
4:32 Slight inaccuracy here. Jörg and his family were seated in a compartment, not in the main cabin. EDIT: Also the restaurant coach (The one with the taller roof) as depicted in the animation at the 5:00 minute mark is in the wrong place. It is depicted as being coach 9 instead of coach 6. Although I will give it to the animators that the crash animation is much better and accurate than others I have seen, which either have an incorrect number of coaches, to one animation showing no rear power car and depicting coach 2 being crushed and the rest following after.
Two different stories even now. Narrator said 5th car back end was crushed, and the 6th the dining car was completely crushed. Then the fire chief said back of 3 rd hits the bridge, 4 th shot through and the 5th was completely crushed. 😢😮???? 3 back end hit, 4 th shot through, and back end of 5th and 6th crushed.
40:07 that’s beautiful, even if you’re not religious, you are still welcome to remember and reflect on this tragic accident, this NEGLIGENT accident. However, the steep stairs at the memorial aren’t very accessible, especially to those survivors who have lasting mobility issues and disabilities which doesn’t seem to make sense
Impossible to watch, every 2-5 min an add... If you have the phone a little far, you enjoy the adds instead of the video (yeah, you do not skip it coz you can't reach it and the add is 2-3min, like the time of video without adds)
Down history once bridges, railroads and locomotives ruled travel, there has been many other catastrophic train wreck accidents. Notably all due to speed and curves and derailment.
Such a horrible disaster, and my heart goes out to the victims and their families! I would argue that the Holocaust probably included the worst train disaster in Germany, though.
Victim Udo should have told the medical people to send all the bills directly to the name on the letter that claimed they would pay. Put that person's name as guarantor.
I wonder if the real issue (after the lack of testing) should be a train should be able to survive a wheel failure. I'd think this is a risk that always exists and should be survivable. Maybe a guard around the wheel that redirects debris out, away from the train. 33:25 A lot of things happened here that required the worst possible exceptional circumstances. The geometry of the failure had to be such that debris hit the tracks like a lever, the debris had to hit at just the right moment and right where a track switch was, the track switch had to be right in front of a bridge.
A wheel design untested at high speed was installed on a very high-speed train and then only cursorily checked for wear? Deutsche Bahn should have been sued into a smouldering crater.
Here in the USA the DB would have had to pay millions of dollars to the relatives of the dead and the injured and rightly so. Unfortunately Germany is not set up to compensate victims like this. For example the guy who still to this day is in pain and is 100% disabled would not only have gotten millions but also money for suffering and losing the ability to work and what he has lost in salary or wages.
How could no one be found at fault? The person who decided to use the new wheel and did not establish a correct system for testing it is clearly at fault.
For a terrible accident to have happened before the millenium. It's very weird to see an iPhone in someone's hand. I get that footage is needed for a report but this is somewhat inaccurate!
That Catholic survivor definitely has thanks to give his guardian Angel. Wow bar shoots up from the floor and thinks he has to investigate. I understand getting a person in charge but the worker should have known.
sad how one persons actions likely could have avoided the accident. had the guy who had the steel part go through his seat just pulled the emergency brake
If someone pulled the emergency stop, the derailment would not happen, and nobody would even know a derailment was averted. But if the stopped train gets rear ended by a following train, this person who pulled the emergency stop would be blamed. This is why nobody wants to do it.
NO NO NO, the crack was in a tyre that pealed off the wheel and actu7alled pierced the floor of a carriage and underneath, ripped up the sleepers and track
I am metallurgical engineer. I can say that separate rim and rubber padding over the solid wheel was OK for low speed team cars. But for 200 kmh train that wheel was foolish decision. Rubber layer between rim and solid wheel caused death and destruction. Germans wanted to boast in their ice glass of wine will not shake at 200kmh.why go for such things most important is SAFETY of the Passengers.
Europe's harsh accident laws discourage people from coming out openly after an accident. These systems are complex and fragile and you'll never have them accident free. It is amazing how the accident happened at the worst possible place at a very bad location on the train.
I can tell you the ICE trains are much safer because of this accident and trains are now jointed with single bogues holding up two train carragies prevents them from knife edging into each other like it it did in this crash
And thats correct, DB uses resilient wheels instead of beter bogie suspension on the ICE 1s and obviously resilient wheels dont age well on highspeed operation
The animation of the train wheel and deformation is epically bad - totally not whats happening, it deforms with the weight of the train becoming oval shaped. When the train moves this deformation ripples round the wheel but it stays mostly at the bottom
%100 of the blame is on the route attendant that did not immediately stop the train after the frickin wheel rim impales the floor, a seat, an armrest, and almost a passenger.. You pull that stupid cable on the wall, folks. This incident is exactly what the emergency stop cables are there for ya'll. As soon as the conductor would have done visual walk, discovery the obvious problem would have ended the doomed trip. I'm sure the families of the victims were furious after the train conductors were let off. Maybe if the conductor sustained a single injury from the crash there would have been an ounce of justice. They wouldn't even help the survivors either. Gross
"They wouldnt even help the survivors either". Not true. Deutsche Bahn paid out lots of restitution to victims and victims families. And they didnt try to cover up or fail to act, they completely changed the wheel and the procedures, so it couldnt happen again. Its easy to cast blame, and yes, they are to blame for changing the type of wheels without doing the simulations to consider the consequences. But they did step up after the accident. And that includes orders to conductors to pull that emergency brake.
German idiom/awkward translation. Means he is handicapped for 100% of the rest of his life with no chance of rehabilitation making him not handicapped.
God Bless All those on that Train...remember when it happened..so sad.......But can not even imagine why there has not been more when speeding along at those speeds on two thin metal rails just a matter of time... But then over there their rail systems are some better than here in states, were the are deplorable at best...so outdated with no upkeep..............BUT this has to Be The Most Complete Report On THis I have Ever Seen...........Thanks
It's not "just a matter of time" thanks to all the safety features of modern railway systems. Similar to how flying appears dangerous of you give it a surface look (a metal tube with flexible wings, hurling through thin air at close to the speed of sound), but is in fact the safest method to travel because of all the active safety measures.
Well this’s a sad story and I feel really heartbroken for the family. But I feel maybe because it happened in my hometown the Mégantic derailed tain crash was way worst than this one I’m sorry for my english I use my knowledge plus google traduction but I think for you it’s google translate
WTF The entire mass of the train on such a rubberised design is beyond belief TUV home of the testing houses too, I think "German engineering is best" tried to do a face-saving exercise and escape blame, this was an unmitigated disaster and formed the best chapter in the idiots' engineering handbook's guide, along with chapters on cockpit avionics design, industrial control system's, precast RAAC concrete etc... It also begs the question -- WHAT DO THE JAPANESE DO/USE ???????!! I can't remember a similar event in Japan prior to this disaster? My brother married a lady from Celle ..
I wonder if DB tried to do the "cheap way out" in trying to smooth out the ride of the original ICE 1 train sets by going to this wheel design instead of re-engineering the train suspension system to smooth out the ride regardless of wheel design. As such, the later ICE train sets such as the Siemens ICE 3 _Velaro_ train sets stayed with monoblock train wheels but with much improved suspension design to reduce vibration at high speed.
41:57 the cherry trees that "don't bear any fruit, but blossom every spring in memory of the victims" are a beautiful way to remember them.
For anybody confused about what is meant when the gentleman says he has a 100% handicap at 39:37. It's reference to the fact that he is burdened with his handicap for the remainder of his life. It is not referencing the severity of his handicap as a percentage. "100% handicap" should have been translated to "permanent" or "life long" handicap as this would have better represented the intended context of what the guy said. Different languages use different idioms and the context of this one was just poorly translated
its very difficult to get 100%- For Example, for 2 damaged (useless) knees you get 30%
im a military veteran with multiple disabilities. im currently in court fighting the VA for my disabilities. my knee, which causes me to fall on average once a month (causing injury) is only 10% according to the VA. i also have back, shoulder, and ankle problems FROM the knee being bad. and they are saying my PTSD is simply anxiety. i wish the US would look at disability the way the rest of the world did. there'd be a lot less veteran suicides....................... (hundreds and hundreds per year)
@catfishbilly
Sorry, but you've got it wrong.
First, the proper English term is disability.
To qualify for any government support, this disability has to be of a permanent nature.
Next comes the severity of ones disability, expressed in percentage points.
This is most crucial, since it determines the level of support one is entitled to.
100% is the highest level possible in Germany.
it means he's 100% disabled for work probably, disability ratings affect compensation so they are usually tied to ability to work and support yourself.
@@ghomerhust u are just a liability as a disabled person, they will fight u to the ends of the world to pay u as little as possible, that's what governments do, they do not care about the individual, they care only about money and the big numbers.
As a retired firefighter, I have seen more than my share of deaths from fire accidents and a few train accidents. But I feel blessed to have never had to deal with train crashes involving multiple cars. I also hope and pray that these firefighters police and paramedics had people to talk to. For Myself fellow firefighters were my saving angels.
when i was stationed in germany, i witnessed a motorcycle hydroplane in rain and go under a tractor/trailer/lorry, and was killed. it was a horrible event, and we stopped to talk to the polizei when they got there to describe what we had seen. in my military life and post-military life, i've seen a lot of blood from accidents. and that motorcycle rider was the worst. i won't describe it but it's enough to get a video banned on youtube for sure. i cannot imagine what actual EMTs and other emergency responders see. i mean, i CAN, since im familiar with their line of work (dad and grampa were firefighters) but actually seeing it up front, something i have not witnessed. those first responders are simply amazing people, handling the stress and still working to fix it.
I can tell you the ICE trains are much safer because of this accident and trains are now jointed with single bogues holding up two train carragies prevents them from knife edging into each other like it it did in this crash!
Amen. I have 42+ years in public safety service. Too many bags with zippers and trips that left formaldehyde permeating my sinuses ---
Wish we had a delete button.
Blessings. Thanks for your service
A rod thrusting upwards between two people is what I would call A Bad Sign.
I heard about this on the news when this happened. I couldn't believe that a fatigue crack could cause an accident. The story was heartbreaking,
R.I.P Passengers onboard the train
RUclips just deleted what I was typing - I am so sick of their cyber crime!
Metal fatigue is a leading cause of major accidents especially on things that fly.
@CaliforniaHigh-SpeedRailWe have more Nazis here in the United States than they have in Germany.
@@terracottaneemtree6697How? Does it disappear suddenly or later? Try again!
Fatigue cracks have been responsible for a number of severe airplane accidents. They have occurred in plane bodies and engine components.
On Friday 18th July 1997, I rode the Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen ICE train from Munich Hbf to Hamburg Hbf. At the time, I had no idea that months later, that the bogies of that same exact train, would crack, poke through the compartment floor, and completely derail that train. I consider myself fortunate that on 3rd June 1998, that I was at work, in Munich, with no intention to travel that day.
This year I rode the ICE from Hannover to Hamburg, through Eschede, and felt relieved when the train left Eschede. While there, I thought of the people who were not so lucky from so many years ago. Although I was not part of the actual derailment, I feel I could have been involved in that same incident in July 1997.
Last year I took an ICE train from Munchen to Hannover. I wasn’t gonna pass Eschede but nonetheless, our train got stuck for two hours. Two trains ahead of us - an ICE train and an RE train - slightly collided against one another. They didn’t collide as much as scratch and scrape against one another. But this could’ve gotten so much worse.
This line can’t catch a break 💀
They made a movie documentarty out of this which was so moving. To see/hear the story a man lie lightly injured beside his dead wife in one of the carriages, holding her hands still and not wanting to part, even when rescuers came for him. So sad. But it was heartwarming, how the little village of Eschede came together to help alive victims in the aftermath
SERIOUSLY ... the steel rim slices through his guys arm rest narrowly avoiding death and he doesn't pull the emergency stop.
This was no ordinary train ..Likely, passengers could not operate any kind of emergency stop.
@@kohedunn Yes you can there are emergency pull stations every so many meters.
@@vortex162Exactly what I have seen while riding.
Other sources say that the passenger didn’t notice that there was an emergency stop in his compartment (he was probably understandably freaked out), and he didn’t see one in the corridor either. Once he found a conductor, the conductor followed procedure which said to investigate before deciding whether to pull the brake. The train crashed just before he could see the problem for himself. But going to look at least probably saved his life, he’d been further back in the train before the passenger came to get him. People in the front cars were more likely to survive in this crash.
It angers me so much that no one was held responsible for the accident and the victims had to fight for compensation! But is´nt that typical? My heart goes out to all of them, its a real shame and adding to the already severe trauma. The memorial was beautiful and may these people never be forgotten. My thoughts is with the survivors and the victims families. ❤
RIP to those 101 victims include their families who are suffering loss of their loves one
As an engineer, the fact that they used untested wheels on a train utterly horrifies me.
And somehow many of internet engineers defend it
Why on god would DB even use resilient wheels isnteqd of upgrade the ICE suspension
My sincere condolences to the victims of this tragedy. Very sorry to hear about the loss. I wish them a better future.
3 1/5 seconds to stop, physics like that and the human body are not compatible with life, miracle anyone survived.
This is so sad for everyone. My heart and prayers go out to everyone involved.
I was stationed in Germany, back when there was still an East and West Germany. The people there were some of the nicest and caring people I've ever met. ❤
Let me get this straight.
A STEEL SHAFT COMES UP THROUGH THE FLOOR AND THERE IS NO NEED TO STOP THE TRAIN?
You have got to be kidding me.
I think it needs to be understood how much Germans love rules and order. If the orders were to notify someone then that was what they would do because they trusted that these things had been tested and failsafes had been applied, since 9.9 times out of 10 they are, Germans love testing things 100 times over. This 'mistake' was clearly a side effect of DeutscheBahn not testing something properly and nothing any passenger or ticket officer could have done would have helped this.
@@kateemma22Yeah the problem was not that the brake was’nt pulled but that a steal beam could suddenly come up between two armrests.
What a grizzly event for the emergency services to deal with.
My heart goes out to those who helped, and of course to the families who lost loved ones.
when the wheel went through passengers floor, pull the emergency breaks !
It has been 25 years since this disaster... Never Forget. Liebe an Deutschland von Amerika. 🇺🇸🤝🇩🇪
Excellent video ---Debbie
Seems to me the Deutsche Bahn SHOULD BE held financially responsible to all the victims of this disaster. Rest in Peace to all those killed . . .
They paid lots of restitution to families of victims, however a life lost cannot really be weighed up against a pile of money
So sad so many people died. Fatigue cracks should be a priority and a reason to actually stop so ironic
Having watched numerous disasters videos it seems that most all companies never step up to help the injured and compensate the famiilies for the deaths and injuries of there loved ones.
Heartbreaking. The trauma was widespread, to the survivors, the families of all the passengers and the responders / medical personnel. The pain for these people is incomprehensible. The saddest of all is that those responsible were not held accountable. The legal system failed. Those who promised to compensate victims did not, or begrudgingly dragged out payments.
Death as a number is never as impactful as seeing the chiselled names and details of each person taken too soon...
The magnificence of the pink spring blossoms must look exquisite...painfully beautiful...
🇿🇦
Like everything else, train wheels need to be tested under conditions more severe than it would ever normally encounter. Heavier weight, higher speed, longer run, environmental conditions from very cold to very hot. Thy are often tested in laboratories. You don't just put something you think will work, then hope for the best.
Amazingly, that is just what they did.
This might sound terrible but if that wheel rim that shot up into the coach would have impaled the passenger rather than just the seat someone would have most certainly pulled the emergency stop before the crash.
My prayers and respect to the relatives of the perished, the survivors and all the responding heroes involved. 🙏
The policy not to investigate the problem til it was too late seemed to work well. How intelligently stupid.
Japan: Invents high speed rail, comemorates 60 years of it with never having an accident related death (one person ever died in one Shinkansen .. it was a suicide, the man put fire on himself on the train).
Germany: starts 30 years later with slower trains, manages to have the most catastrophic high-speed train in History in only 7 years of service.
Also germany: uses a resilient wheel to maximize comfort on their intercity express train when its obviously wont gonna age well as standard monoblock wheels
A similar accident occurred in Granville, Sydney NSW Australia but it technically wasn’t a high speed train. The train was travelling too fast after descending the Blue Mountains and came around a bend too fast, striking a bridge which brought it down on top of the train killing many passengers. It was one of Australia’s worst rail disasters and lead to many changes to construction and maintenance of railways in Australia and around the world.
To know that people knew of problems but did nothing is disturbing. Those people did not have to die.
This is an absolutely tragic accident and ofc ppl will forever say "I would have" - it's very easy to say those things after the fact, but we don't know how we'll act in the moment until we're actually in that situation ourselves.
As much as I want to say that I would have pulled the emergency brake as soon as I saw something pierce the bottom of the carriage between my feet, I haven't actually heard if that was an option. I know after the Gare de Lyon accident in France, some trains were redesigned so that passengers couldn't pull the emergency brake anymore. So the passenger may have had to get a conductor/security officer to pull it. Or maybe they could have pulled it themselves. I've never been to Germany, let alone been on their high speed trains, so I don't know what the situation with the emergency brake was.
"The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli."
My favorite George-ism!
This was the greatest Seinfeld episode where main story and side stories came together........
IS ANYONE HERE A MARINE BIOLOGIST?!?!?
@patrickhamilton6677 I agree! I know every episode by heart, yet I still have to watch it!!
Was it a Titleist???
No soup for you!
How very sad😢 Thank You for sharing, so sad that no one thought about really looking at the wheels.
The owners of the train should compensate the passengers, families, and all those who lost someone or were injured in this crash. It's only fair these people will suffer for the rest of their lives, either from the loss, injury, both physical and mental issues.
Even though money or other compensation won't bring back the people and lives that were impacted by the crash, they deserve something to make their lives easier.
Prayers and condolences to every one effected by this crash.
4:32 Slight inaccuracy here. Jörg and his family were seated in a compartment, not in the main cabin.
EDIT: Also the restaurant coach (The one with the taller roof) as depicted in the animation at the 5:00 minute mark is in the wrong place. It is depicted as being coach 9 instead of coach 6. Although I will give it to the animators that the crash animation is much better and accurate than others I have seen, which either have an incorrect number of coaches, to one animation showing no rear power car and depicting coach 2 being crushed and the rest following after.
Two different stories even now. Narrator said 5th car back end was crushed, and the 6th the dining car was completely crushed. Then the fire chief said back of 3 rd hits the bridge, 4 th shot through and the 5th was completely crushed. 😢😮???? 3 back end hit, 4 th shot through, and back end of 5th and 6th crushed.
40:07 that’s beautiful, even if you’re not religious, you are still welcome to remember and reflect on this tragic accident, this NEGLIGENT accident. However, the steep stairs at the memorial aren’t very accessible, especially to those survivors who have lasting mobility issues and disabilities which doesn’t seem to make sense
I can't even imagine rolling up on something like this...
Impossible to watch, every 2-5 min an add... If you have the phone a little far, you enjoy the adds instead of the video (yeah, you do not skip it coz you can't reach it and the add is 2-3min, like the time of video without adds)
Down history once bridges, railroads and locomotives ruled travel, there has been many other catastrophic train wreck accidents. Notably all due to speed and curves and derailment.
Such a horrible disaster, and my heart goes out to the victims and their families! I would argue that the Holocaust probably included the worst train disaster in Germany, though.
are there any train lines in palestine?
Victim Udo should have told the medical people to send all the bills directly to the name on the letter that claimed they would pay. Put that person's name as guarantor.
I wonder if the real issue (after the lack of testing) should be a train should be able to survive a wheel failure. I'd think this is a risk that always exists and should be survivable. Maybe a guard around the wheel that redirects debris out, away from the train.
33:25 A lot of things happened here that required the worst possible exceptional circumstances. The geometry of the failure had to be such that debris hit the tracks like a lever, the debris had to hit at just the right moment and right where a track switch was, the track switch had to be right in front of a bridge.
How did he make it so he was the only passenger in Coach 11?? Did he buy the entire coach??!
Probably
A wheel design untested at high speed was installed on a very high-speed train and then only cursorily checked for wear? Deutsche Bahn should have been sued into a smouldering crater.
Worse they use resilient wheels which uses on trams and they arent made to go higherspeed
Wow, I never heard of this accident before. I'm a German American living in the USA.
Here in the USA the DB would have had to pay millions of dollars to the relatives of the dead and the injured and rightly so. Unfortunately Germany is not set up to compensate victims like this. For example the guy who still to this day is in pain and is 100% disabled would not only have gotten millions but also money for suffering and losing the ability to work and what he has lost in salary or wages.
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How could no one be found at fault? The person who decided to use the new wheel and did not establish a correct system for testing it is clearly at fault.
Its DBs fault to use a resilient wheels instead of uogarding ICEs suspension
Death or injury by train usually cause change and new rules written with blood.
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For a terrible accident to have happened before the millenium. It's very weird to see an iPhone in someone's hand. I get that footage is needed for a report but this is somewhat inaccurate!
How do you move past something like this, or do you?
That Catholic survivor definitely has thanks to give his guardian Angel. Wow bar shoots up from the floor and thinks he has to investigate. I understand getting a person in charge but the worker should have known.
a railing always goes up, after someone falls
I believe they limit the speed to 160kph or 100mph
This guy's German pronunciation is really good yo.
Prayer's to all those who perished and those injured.
Obviously a solid wheel would be infinitely safer...
Them not being charged is Conspiracy.
sad how one persons actions likely could have avoided the accident. had the guy who had the steel part go through his seat just pulled the emergency brake
If someone pulled the emergency stop, the derailment would not happen, and nobody would even know a derailment was averted. But if the stopped train gets rear ended by a following train, this person who pulled the emergency stop would be blamed. This is why nobody wants to do it.
If this train had The Bisby Train Safety Kit On it I think More People Would have made it.. It is a Great System Once it is on the Trains.
NO NO NO, the crack was in a tyre that pealed off the wheel and actu7alled pierced the floor of a carriage and underneath, ripped up the sleepers and track
I am metallurgical engineer. I can say that separate rim and rubber padding over the solid wheel was OK for low speed team cars. But for 200 kmh train that wheel was foolish decision. Rubber layer between rim and solid wheel caused death and destruction. Germans wanted to boast in their ice glass of wine will not shake at 200kmh.why go for such things most important is SAFETY of the Passengers.
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Imagine if they just hit the emergency brakes from the start...
Watching this while I am in the train 💀🌚
There are way too many adds on this channel
I didn’t see any ads on here.
Working on a laptop in 1998 WOW.
IBM ThinkPad 350 series came out in 1993.
Przecież już dawno wiadomo jak do tego doszło, przez kombinowanie przy kolachprzez producenta!
Europe's harsh accident laws discourage people from coming out openly after an accident. These systems are complex and fragile and you'll never have them accident free.
It is amazing how the accident happened at the worst possible place at a very bad location on the train.
Eschede not Eschida
I can tell you the ICE trains are much safer because of this accident and trains are now jointed with single bogues holding up two train carragies prevents them from knife edging into each other like it it did in this crash
I cant get why DB uses resilient wheels instead upgrading the bogie suspension on the ICE 1s
@voidjavelin23 at the time it wasn't common to use single bogues
@voidjavelin23 so it's not surprising plus it wasn't well proven tech at the time
Seems like the train company was/is made of cheap bastards
And thats correct, DB uses resilient wheels instead of beter bogie suspension on the ICE 1s and obviously resilient wheels dont age well on highspeed operation
If it can go wrong it will go wrong, Patrick Murphy's Law
A 45-minute long video and we know what caused it within the first 3 minutes? Kinda takes away from the whole atmosphere of the video.
I think it's more of the struggle of survival and rescue and the impact for future trains
How would the engineers even be the blame though. More like the maintenance people tbf
its DBs fault tbh because they literlly have a idea to use a resilient wheels which is obviously isnt meant on highspeed on the ICE 1
Maybe if you could spell Eschede I would pay attention to your regurgitated video.
The animation of the train wheel and deformation is epically bad - totally not whats happening, it deforms with the weight of the train becoming oval shaped. When the train moves this deformation ripples round the wheel but it stays mostly at the bottom
%100 of the blame is on the route attendant that did not immediately stop the train after the frickin wheel rim impales the floor, a seat, an armrest, and almost a passenger.. You pull that stupid cable on the wall, folks. This incident is exactly what the emergency stop cables are there for ya'll. As soon as the conductor would have done visual walk, discovery the obvious problem would have ended the doomed trip. I'm sure the families of the victims were furious after the train conductors were let off. Maybe if the conductor sustained a single injury from the crash there would have been an ounce of justice. They wouldn't even help the survivors either. Gross
He probably paid for it with his life!
"They wouldnt even help the survivors either". Not true. Deutsche Bahn paid out lots of restitution to victims and victims families. And they didnt try to cover up or fail to act, they completely changed the wheel and the procedures, so it couldnt happen again.
Its easy to cast blame, and yes, they are to blame for changing the type of wheels without doing the simulations to consider the consequences. But they did step up after the accident. And that includes orders to conductors to pull that emergency brake.
prove it @@dfuher968
Mabey convert to anti gravity magnetic rails!
And then another disaster happens every time the power goes out or they forget to verify the strength of the magnets
Ah yes gravity magnetic trains, idiot much?
Greed and complacency are killers.
If you apply a litle bit of logic, this is not going to be the solution.
They the japanese or chinese started speed trains back in 1965 with germany not far behind in 1971 we havnt even started yet as far as i know ...
40:00 "I am 100% handicapped" proceeds to walk around
German idiom/awkward translation. Means he is handicapped for 100% of the rest of his life with no chance of rehabilitation making him not handicapped.
Thrs no man made will be damaged remember that..! ☠️🇵🇭⚔️
God Bless All those on that Train...remember when it happened..so sad.......But can not even imagine why there has not been more
when speeding along at those speeds on two thin metal rails just a matter of time...
But then over there their rail systems are some better than here in states, were the are deplorable at best...so outdated
with no upkeep..............BUT this has to Be The Most Complete Report On THis I have Ever Seen...........Thanks
It's not "just a matter of time" thanks to all the safety features of modern railway systems. Similar to how flying appears dangerous of you give it a surface look (a metal tube with flexible wings, hurling through thin air at close to the speed of sound), but is in fact the safest method to travel because of all the active safety measures.
Maybe in other countries but Usa has the worst railways ever, and I gave up flying some 15yrs ago.....and never again@@programagor
Why is it imperative that a train be required to travel so fast? Life is safer and more enjoyable at a slower pace.
Because its InterCity Express / ICE? duhh theyre literlly germans highspeed trains and everybody knows it
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These people are not wounded, they are injured...
Oh my
Le indian railways- are you jocking?
May they forever dwell in the House of God and rain tears of joy upon their families.
We need to upgrade the railway train system and we need more trains.
No we need more train companies that prioties safety than short term profit margins, eschede derailment is a example for it
200 m.p.h. trip to hell
I know this incident, I watched this from Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions
Too many boring interviews.
Well this’s a sad story and I feel really heartbroken for the family.
But I feel maybe because it happened in my hometown the Mégantic derailed tain crash was way worst than this one
I’m sorry for my english I use my knowledge plus google traduction but I think for you it’s google translate
All They had to do was pull the break stop
WTF The entire mass of the train on such a rubberised design is beyond belief TUV home of the testing houses too, I think "German engineering is best" tried to do a face-saving exercise and escape blame, this was an unmitigated disaster and formed the best chapter in the idiots' engineering handbook's guide, along with chapters on cockpit avionics design, industrial control system's, precast RAAC concrete etc... It also begs the question -- WHAT DO THE JAPANESE DO/USE ???????!! I can't remember a similar event in Japan prior to this disaster? My brother married a lady from Celle ..
I wonder if DB tried to do the "cheap way out" in trying to smooth out the ride of the original ICE 1 train sets by going to this wheel design instead of re-engineering the train suspension system to smooth out the ride regardless of wheel design. As such, the later ICE train sets such as the Siemens ICE 3 _Velaro_ train sets stayed with monoblock train wheels but with much improved suspension design to reduce vibration at high speed.