Revisiting Ben 10: Alien Swarm Frame-by-Frame
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TIMECODES:
0:00 - Introduction
2:00 - Movie Breakdown
40:50 - The Ratings
46:14 - Final Thoughts
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THE REVIEW
I watch each episode with my own commentary, often pausing the scenes to get my words out without having to talk over the episode, and also to point out and analyze the show's art and animation. I have seen each episode already growing up, so these reviews are to compare and contrast the five categories listed below.
PLOT (Scaled from 1 to 5 Points)
The foundation of the episode. Uniqueness and overused tropes are taken into account, but it is also judged on how well it tells the story of the episode. An episode can score a 5 even with a basic/ cliche plotline as long as it has good pacing, worthy use of its tropes, and feels well-polished. An episode can lose points due to plotholes, uneven storytelling, and relying too heavily on cliches to do the work for it.
CHARACTERIZATION (Scaled from 1 to 5 Points)
How well the characters are written. Do they feel like themselves compared to the grand narrative of the franchise? Are the supporting or one-off characters interesting, or pure plot devices? Did the humor land? Did the actions and character motivations make sense?
VISUALS (Scaled from 1 to 5 Points)
Basically, everything that happens on-screen. Character Design. Animation. Backgrounds. Creative mechanics and solutions. If there is CGI or digital effects added, how well do they blend into the show, and were they used as an enhancement, or a crutch?
IMPORTANCE (Scaled from 1 to 5 Points)
This includes, but is not strictly based on, how important the episodes are to the current story arc (if there is one) or the general narrative of the Ben 10 Franchise. Points can also be awarded for how impactful the episode was, or how favored/ important it is to the general Ben 10 fanbase. I ask myself, "If I skipped this, would I be missing out on the 'Ben 10 Experience?' "
ENTERTAINMENT (Scaled from 1 to 5)
Pretty much the most important part of developing a tv show. You can be perfect in all four of the previous categories, but the episode can still be boring. On the flip side, the episode can be absolute garbage, but still an enjoyable watch. How likely would you be to put this episode on if you were in the mood to watch Ben 10? 
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This live action is better than the first one.
Finally is here , to bad i don't have Popcorn :( Great job mr Kuro:),hope you are doing good BTW
Would have been perfect if you had DONE this with diamondbolt.
I didn't think you were going to breakdown alein swarm i was expecting the ultimate enemy breakdown tonight but this was better. btw are going to breakdown heroes united crossover?
Looking back, 2009 had a LOT of movies based on the shows I watched growing up. Ed Edd n Eddy had a movie, Hannah Montana had a movie, Wizards of Waverly Place had a movie, Totally Spies had a movie, The Fairly OddParents had a trilogy of movies and Scooby Doo had TWO movies, a typical yearly direct to DVD movie and a live action movie! And I listed them all here in this playlist I made!
ruclips.net/p/PLDdYXCLMNKAFUrDXoqVqulE27AiNcKJxf
BTW, haven't seen either of the original Land of the Lost shows, but I have seen the movie which wasn't very good.
Edit: I'd love to see you review the shorts that Cartoon Network used to do for most of their shows.
I figured out why Max was acting so aggressive. It's another Albedo situation, why else would he be wearing a blue shirt instead of his iconic red?
Barry Corbin who played Max in this movie is a very funny Actor
You know too much hermit. Your going to need to be silenced PERMANENTLY
IT WAS THE LYMAX. I'm kidding. I'd be cool though
I'm still a bit disappointed that they didn't make an Ultimate Alien nor Omniverse movie. I'm honestly surprise they didn't at least give them an animated one
Ben 10 would've been an amazing cinematic universe. But no one is committed to that rn
Agreed completely.
@@AqwDragulum I need the canceled Gwen/Kevin/Charmcaster spinoff so bad.
The Plumbers Helpers could also be a good spinoff.
Maybe a prequel of Azmuth going around and collecting DNA samples for the watch, getting into misadventures along the way?
Hey atleast we got a crossover movie
Same
For the budget this movie had, they did a pretty decent job at bring the aliens to life.
If only they didn’t use it for car shots and an inherently expensive enemy to create lol. Then they would do an amazing job.
@@jasonnguyen2575 There's really not as much car shots as people say. Just check it yourself. Just 'cause Kuro and Diamondbolt did a funny review (which I like by the way) and made car shots a meme, doesn't mean the film as well spends a lot of time on car shots. And most of them are quite good that I'm okay with them existing in the film.
But maybe only doing a few car shots requires a lot of money. In that point of view, I would agree with you.
@@kumarsaurabh9216 I mean the car was likely a pretty expensive prop on it’s own. So might as well film it looking cool a couple times. I don’t know how much doing less car shots would have supported more SFX/VFX/CGI.
Yeah all
*counts on fingers*
fucking two of them.
This movie bores me to tears.
Humongasaur and big chill looked passable if you ask me they looked better than most live action movie cgi characters based on cartoon characters.
you absolute madman
Oh A youtuber I spy. Love your videos man.
Oh hello diamondbelt
Why was he a madman?
Personally, I think they did a really good job capturing the pitch-black backgrounds from Alien Force
😭
Still more light than fant4stic
@@axelnilsson5124 still more light than in every DCEU movie combined
@@ilyassebenana3824 not really since they have aquaman and SHAZAM!
I can see the backgrounds from AF, I think his monitor, him needing glasses (might be a cause, ok?), or youtube's quality might be the problem.
The silicon thing is because the only to chemicals that can support life is carbon and silicon, humans are referred to as carbon-based life forms in movies because of this. Any silicon based beings would be more metallic/crystal like and weight a lot more and therefore be a lot stronger which is why a lot of sci-fi show refer to their alien being made of silicon.
@No. 1 Spidey-Fan something about where those two elements are placed on the periodic table, I don’t know I just remember learning about it in high school and then noticing it in movies
@No. 1 Spidey-Fan only two element that can form organic compounds
@No. 1 Spidey-Fan so they both have 4 valiance electrons which gives them a lot of flexibility with the range of compounds they can make. Famous example of this is how depending on how carbon is arranged pure carbon can be substances as weak as graphite (pencil lead) or as strong as diamond, but more importantly is how carbon can work with hydrogen it can form simple compounds like methane CH4 or complex chains like Glucose (actually this is still on the very simple side of what carbon can do) C6H6O12, these are stuff like carbohydrates. Carbon’s unique properties allow it to create plastics and rubbers (some that have come close to replicate human skin). And carbon is the main component in all organisms on earth.
Silicon is the next element in the carbon family meaning it is the closest to carbon in terms of properties (right under carbon on the periodic table), which has made it a hypothetical most likely alternative for a life form that isn’t carbon based. Silicon also has its own very wide range of complex applications most notably in nanotechnology/small-material science (computers.)
I more connect silicon to organisms that look like rocks and can pull plastic film out of their eyes to waterboard the protagonist's girlfriend.
Silicon based lifeforms should be theoretically possible in extremely cold environment
I really love this movie's take on Kevin's absorbing powers, and I'm glad Omniverse does the same thing, where him absorbing things makes his body more bulky. In Omniverse his features become more jagged, and chiseled, and his chin hairs turn into spikes, and he gets shoulder-pads. It's really cool.
I’m also glad they didn’t have the aliens shout their names out when they transformed 😂
Naah that would be good. It's like in anime when you shout out your move. No sense but good be done if done
@@randomturd1415 Although I hate with Humongasaur they reduced him to only roaring.
@@duncananderson2113, yeah especially since we heard Dee as Big Chill earlier. What? Did the $40,000,000 budget couldn’t get Dee for like one more day for him to voice Humongey, could they not get him in his lunch break, or what?
@@jasonnguyen2575 Yeah,or did they have to follow the trend,if it's a big cgi monster than it must only roar.
@@jasonnguyen2575 humongey lmao💀 maybe there was some audio difficulties or something even big budget movies struggle with the most simplest shit or maybe that dude who worked on the hulk 2003 probably suggested that humongosaur shouldn’t talk that much just like the hulk did
Gwen: "she led you into a nest of chips"
> investigating the chips
> surprised when they find the chips
36:05 Actually, the Omniverse design in some aspects is more accurate. Like his split three toed feet, his headspike being longer and his arm gauntlets. DJW says that when redesigning characters he likes to mix and match their different designs from the past, which you can see with a lot of Omniverse designs (Like how Charmcaster wears her OS jacket, but with the Alien Force sigil). So I think his nanomech take is a little bit of the movie design, a little bit of Ulitmate Alien and a little bit of new personal touches.
I even think Derrick based Ben's hair in Omnvierse on Garahm Phillips' hair in Race Against Time, to push Ben's design away from just a generic white male protagonist haircut. And it worked, the floofy hair makes him stand out more and fits Ben's personality more. It's a bit stylish, a bit "look at me, I have great hair" (especially UAF jacket Ben in the flashbacks), but also a bit goofy and cute.
You can see it in Transformers Animated too. Optimus Prime in that show has the chest of Star Convoy, lips of Beast Machines Optimus Primal, and the headphones of movie Optimus, which have one pair of circles on his ears, and one pair of circles on his cheeks. Derrick ruled.
Thanks for the info.
Wait he was taking influence from previous version what part of UAF had Big Chill be on steroids I know they were tackling dark subjects but dealing with substance abuse is very mature
@@allforone3427 Har har.
Outside of taking inspiration from different versions of the characters, he also was great because he thought outside the box. I wouldn't think of making Big Chill buff. And it's cool seeing his cloaked form be all hunched back.
@@allforone3427 it's a reference to Killer Moth from Teen Titans
I don't get why they did it either
@@HiperPivociarz ya it's ok I guess just not for me but hey I can't stop people from liking it everyone gets to like what they want
This movie was the reason for me playing "Just a Little faster" on loop for like, A year. I'm so thankful for having parents that were patient enough to not break my CD boom box into a thousand pieces. It would've been justified.
Same here too!!!!!!!!
I love the song especially that one AMV I watched
Actually I learned about this song from the NERF N-Strike series commercials, and it took me years to finally hear this song again in full.
I still listen to it
Honestly, considering how everybody except for Ben was constantly against Elena for no reason, it's pretty valid for her not to tell them her dad was being controlled. This Max would probably say "He probably learned how to control the chips and is using them against us"
In the earlier scenes, that actually was Cannonbolt you saw in the holograms! In timelining this movie (even though the mention later of it being March doesn’t match up 1:1 with the show’s timeline being roughly in fall), I talked with TJ Collins about how the animation crew was contacted for some sense of character designs for costumes and continuity references.
As signified later in the film when Kevin and Gwen change from their AF S1-2 outfits to the ones we see them in during S3, this movie was intended to take place between War Of The Worlds and Vengeance Of Vilgax (though with some small changes in the animated continuity).
So yes alongside Ghostfreak, Nanomech was an alien Ben canonically had throughout S3 but never used, though that’s no fault of the crew since - aside from the crew who offered references - they weren’t privy to the movie’s details to integrate anything until UA after they’d seen it themselves!
Also, this film is VERY inconsistent with timeline details as you noted. Two conflicting verbal mentions of the Validus time-skips, and onscreen dates @ 16:20 that, according to the animated timeline, would have taken place a year ago meaning either Ben and Elena should be 11 in this movie or this movie is taking place in like 2012/13.
Hell, it doesn’t even match up with RAT’s onscreen dates of September 2007 with this being a sequel. Is Ben supposed to be 13 here? Lol
@TheGlassesPro I appreciate that sentiment a bunch, kind stranger. I wish I had more time to contribute to even my own “professional” ventures, but I’ll admit it’s rough at the moment even as my own singular unit. Happy to be a part of the community however I can, and always thankful for some ‘howdy’s here and there, like yours. Thanks for making me feel welcome!
To be fair "Molecular density is inert" is sci-fi jargon that does make rough sense. It means they are not in a state of phasing or possessing any density shifting properties (abilities they later display when they phase into people's skin). Also, even though 'silicone based life form' is a phrase thrown around in sci-fi (notably because after carbon silicone would be the easiest element to build DNA with) for Chromastone and Echo Echo it makes perfect sense. Silicone is abundant in rocks/crystals/sand and in plastic. Things that chromosome and echo echo respectfully are made of.
cool facts.
Some metals can also contain silicone (although I forgot witch ones) so clockwork could be a silicone lifeform.
18:34 I have the personal theory that since Kai revealed she was only interested on Ben because of Blitzwolfer, Ben prefers not considering Kai as his first crush for the bad memory and maybe Gwen respects that so that's why she tells to Kevin Elena is the first one. That same experience is the reason ben doesn't use Blitzwolfer until Omniverse.
Edit: okay Jesus, We know Ben 10 is not the Best when it comes to continuity but I was just saying My in universe reason for Ben not using blitzwolfer using a bit of Elena and the retcon they did with kai and stuff.
Maybe they just wanted to retconn it for the movie
@@Shawno625, yeah just like ALL of Alien Force lol.
In omniverse they redconed it again I think
@@lonemotheomatshaba9640 no when ben encounters Kai, He mentions those events and Rook knows them because of Gwen
@@andrewleyton6689 no, omniverse retconned ben's first crush again, just rewatch showdown part 1 bc I forgot the name of the girl.
If the Omnitrix can influence the Nanochip DNA with Ben's human DNA in order to make Nanomech a sentient lifeform, I feel like there should have been nothing keeping Ben from unlocking a DNAlien form after scanning the Xenocytes. Either way, it's a non-sentient alien parasite merged with human DNA to make a sentient humanoid.
Word of God states that the chips are in the same boat as the Mechamorphs, so they’re both hybrid transformations. Though DJW also claimed that Nanomech is simply an matured/evolved form of the nanochips
I recall the wiki having notes saying that a DNAlien transformation was sampled during Max Out, but the Omnitrix didn't register them as a proper species and removed the transformation.
@@twinodoom I'm pretty sure the Omnitrix sampled the DNA since it did detect it.
It probably isn't a transformation on its own because it's not sentient enough and it didn't get the hybrid treatment since there wasn't a need for it at the time.
Max's distrust of Elena in this movie becomes funnier in hindsight due to Ultimate Alien, where it's retconned that *SPOILERS*
She was the real Nanochip Queen all along, and the one inside Victor was just a decoy.
Damn!
Wait then.. how was he producing the chips?
@@mattygee6852 He Was Infected By The Fake Queen That Elena Gave Queen Status
I didn’t know where this movie fell in the continuity. Sweet video & analysis!!
Before anything is said about the movie, let me say this.
Just A Little Faster is a banger.
Preach bro
Weird how Elena keeps being treated as this untrustworthy femme fatale type character, when she's really not. I don't know why everyone but Ben struggles to trust her.
well she does end up being the villain after all soo
Femme fatale? She's a goddamn yandere.
"you don't recognize your own dad" so true, brilliant line from kuro 10:54
I think that Elena and Kai are so similar in personality and backstory that the screenwriters could have made her Kai. In my opinion, the movie would be better that way.
(Sorry for bad english)
Nah man it was good English
Your English is good marvin it's also good point
@@blueraccoon1088 thanks :)
I think Omniverse should've had Kai joined up with Ben and Blonko from the very beginning.
@@FMK03 like a new version of the alien force?
Since Shazam worked so well, I think WB would be stupid not to consider a live action Ben 10 film. It could honestly be a sci-if Harry Potter if they let Ben grow up through the films. Also Michael Rooker or John Goodman should play Grandpa Max.
Its happening
The creators of it did a pretty good job making the aliens of Ben 10 come to life. It sucks that we didn't get to see more of them on screen (due to budget) but still I would say this live movie movie improved ALOT compared to the first live action Ben 10 movie. Sure it was cheesy at times but it wasn't too over the top cheesy (or cringy) to make it unbearable to watch and still took itself seriously on some parts. It sucks we will never get a live action film of Ben 10 again for Ultimate Alien and Omniverse from modern CN. Definitely a piece of memory from my childhood right here.
"Lotta silicon in this show"
I mean, scientists have hypothesized that silicon is the only other material life can be based on.
I did not think you'd do this until after the alien force series was done.
I also like nanomech's voice in this one. It's almost like a metallic human. in the animation it was annoyingly and unnecessarily high-pitched. We could also see more of his adaptation powers. I feel he'd be one of the most powerful and versatile aliens in the arsenal.
Same
@TheGlassesPro just because it's realistic doesn't mean it's not annoying
I assumed he’d do it between 2 and 3
@TheGlassesPro You all know that Nanomech is voiced by director Alex Winter right?
I absolutely adore how on point Kevin is in this movie
Whenever people see Cartoon Network live action movies or movies in general they expect some kind of multi billion dollar project as if it's made by Mappa or any other massive animation studio forgetting it's a small crew in charge, Good analysis Kuro.
6:45 they also weirdly don't have a twistable dial on that prop so ryan just has to kinda slide his fingers across it lol
Oddly, this actually would have worked for an Omniverse movie if they added added a pop up cg selection dial when he chose his form since that one did have a touch control interface with what looked to be a holographic alien selection dial. Too bad this is Alien Force where that wasn’t the case. Oh well. Lol.
@@SakuraLovesong lol yeah.
The setting looks more realistic but that's what I miss most about back then, it was more awesome and well-made.
I've only ever seen this movie once in my life in my uncle's house I swear to god it was a fever dream. I slept through some of it and woke up to the humongosaur transformation that shit scared the hell out of me.
Bro gotta agree your comment can be seen in general on ben 10 videos
@@bhuvan8597 Yes. Ben 10 is my childhood.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 So was mine:)
14:08 thats one detail that i really liked that they changed here in brazil, the translation team made ben and gwen call him granpa max throughout the movie, and plus the voice actors where all the same from the show, including elena i think
Surprised he doesn't mention how much of a canon breaker Ben's car is in this movie.
If Kevin has known Ben for long enough at this point to make him a birthday present, especially a 2 month late birthday present, it can't be his 15th birthday. It has to he his 16th, but Ben at 16 didn't have the Recalibrated Omnitrix.
Still crazy to me that the wiki lists this movie as canon.
I like to think that, even if some things of the live-action movies made It into the Prime timeline (the anímated series) It wasn't a 1 to 1 situation. TL;DR: this is It's own universe and something similar happened offscreen in the series.
Considering what happens with Elena in Ben 10 ultimate alien grandpa max's' mistrust has some merits
I feel like the main reason they had Max so out of character in his first scene was so that they position Ben as a bad boy renegade going outside the rules. Sure it’s also to create a sense of ambiguity regarding Elena’s trustworthiness but let’s be real, Ben’s next scene has him riding a motorcycle, something he never did in the cartoon and probably can’t do legally at the age of 15.
2009?! I remember very specifically this premiered on October10th, 2010. Cartoon Network had a whole countdown to it and everything.
“Missouri in February.” Can confirm. This last February here was about as cold as Greenland in Winter.
Finally!!!
I’ve been asking this since the start of Ben 10: Alien Force: Season Two breakdown.
Also, Car Shot!!! from that Diamondbolt video.
I like how Alien Swarm seems more canon then the first Ben 10 movie, because Ben’s car, Nanomech, even Alaina were in Ultimate Alien
Eon was also in ultimate alien and is more reoccurring in omniverse
Pretty sure at 8:58 that's Brainstorm. The spacing of the top could show the brain while the crane like structure being the arms. And as for Kevin always decorating, CGI budgets. Always the Budgets
Yeah it looks more like brainstorm than Humoungousaur or Cannonbolt
Ryan Kelly in this movie gives me big Logan Lerman as Percy Jackson vibes, especially in the hoody. Makes sense, Percy and Ben are pretty much the same character archetype. We even get an evil version of Ben with black hair and sea green eyes in Omniverse.
I'm just saying, maybe you guys as Ben 10 fans would enjoy the upcoming Percy Jackson show on Disney+ starring Walker Scobell. It'd be much more accurate to the books.
When I was younger I always confused Elena with Kai to be honest. It was probably a combination of lack of attention, them having a some what similar red senteric color scheme, similar-ish designs and her being Ben's first crush(because we saw Kai be his crush before in the actual show) making me think that it made a lot sense she was in here and now they were giving this interesting evolution for her character.
Now tho I think I just wish that this actually was the case. It would've added some more interesting tid bits to Kai and given audiences connections to make for Ben and Kai's relationship in the long run.
Same I was bad with names so until Omniverse came o it I assumed they were the same person
Considering Ben turned 17 halfway through OV:
OS is set in 2005.
AF seasons 1 and 2 takes place between December 2009 and February 2010.
Alien Swarm takes place in February 2010.
AF season 3 takes place between February 2010 and December 2010.
UA takes place between December 2010 and June 2011.
OV (16 year old Ben) takes place between June 2011 and December 2011.
OV (17 year old Ben) takes place between June 2012 and December 2012.
OS Ben 10k is 30 years old, so it takes place in 2024/2025 (first appearance); and is 42 years old, so it takes place in 2036/2037 (second appearance).
Ultimate Ben is 36 years old (as it takes place 20 years after UA), so his future takes place in 2030/2031.
Ben 10k from OV takes place around 2032 (because Argit uses that year when they say to vote for him), so Ben 10k from OV is 37/38 years old.
The reason for these dates is because:
Whereas in Moonstruck, Max said he was Kevin's age (17 at the time), it's mentioned in the ep that Kennedy was president and that the colonel alludes to Kenned's 1962 speech, so Max was 17 between 1962 and 1963. Also considering that Max would be replacing Neil Armstrong in the Apollo 11 Mission, so Max must have been born in the summer of 1945. As he turns 60 in the OS (in the Ben 10,000 ep), then the OS takes place in 2005 and Ben and Gwen were born in December 1994.
Note: In Many Happy Returns, Gwen says she is on spring break, however, as the third season of UA takes place after summer, so I assume that Gwen's spring break is early or late due to something that may have happened in college (maybe it's just a schedule mix-up or a problem with some Lucky Girl villain).
(this information was based on a theory post on the Ben 10 wiki, which I agree with everything except that OV is not canon, because the episode “Blukic and Driba Go to Area 51”, it was never directly said that the events of the episode are the Roswell Incident, therefore, Alien X recreating he universe did not affect these events. The link to the original post is: ben10.fandom.com/f/p/3072715829280769230).
Also, in Ben 10 Alien Swarm, footage from 3 years prior to present day showing Max's interrogation of Victor was dated September 22, 2006. Considering that when Max says the recording is from 3 years ago, the 3 years is not exact, but rather 3 years and a few months (since the film takes place in February, as evidenced by the fact that the car Kevin gave to Ben is a birthday present two months late, and Ben's birthday is in December (because Ben and Gwen have the same birthday, and in OV, Rook mentions that Gwen's birthday is in December)). This indicates that the film Alien Swarm takes place in February 2010, so the first and second season of AF takes place between December 2009 and February 2010. Furthermore, interestingly, the Ships began to be sent around the world by back to March 24, 2009, as seen in Ship-It documents that Kevin holds during the film.
I always preferred Ben's car over Kevin's. Kind of wish we saw more of it in Ultimate Alien
This film felt like a weird fever dream. The late 2000's was a great time to be alive
I think at least one more Omnitrix Alien would have been satisfying enough for this movie. I could see a more organic, “muted” Swampfire, Chromastone or Spidemonkey especially.
What Nanomech's not good enough for you huh?
About that shrinking then transforming bit, we’ve seen a couple of variations like that in the series such as when Ben transformed from Nanomech to Way Big when he was fighting Gwen. Way Big started off tiny then grew to full size.
I remember this movie comming out how hyped I got. I remember being a little confused on plot. But I did enjoy watching some of my favorite characters in live action.
30:03 I was thinking the same thing instantly that I assumed Gwen was going to try and track him and you gave a brilliant and funny way of putting out what I was thinking, from a ben super fan to you the ben super fan god I appreciate you talk about the littlest details because there are some things I and a lot of other people still don't know about the ben prime universe or even the multiverse as a whole, thanks for the great video, don't ever give up this passion.
Regardless of how Elaina was handled, do you wish her father came back in the show and if so how?
He did in one episode, and it was revealed he was deceased. If he came back, one of those OV flashback episode would be neat. We could see Ben and Elena’s childhood, and some of what Max and Vic’s relationship would be like.
29:30 "You can't break Plumber ranks, Benji!"
As a reference to Kuro in Diamondbolt's Alien Swarm review.
it’s very disappointing to not see more aliens in live action. i feel like chromastone, echo echo, and maybe swampfire were all doable
In the german dub of this movie, all of the characters were dubbed by the same voice actors that prievously voiced their animated incarnations. This wasn't the case in Race against Time. Even the new characters in Alien Swarm were voiced by actors who had prievously been in Ben 10. (Notably, Victor Validus had the exact same voice as Diamondhead and Xylene's voice actress portrayed the Swarm Queen). However, when these characters returned in Ultimate Alien, they were recast, even though most of their original voice actors were still in the episodes.
Here in Brazil we got the Voice cast in both movies
Echo Echo, Chromastone and Loadstar could have made good additions to the live action cast of aliens in this film
This movie reminds me of Zach Snyder movie with how grey everything is. Big Chill and Humongosaur both have very muted color schemes here.
I think this movie is pretty fun, but I personally always hated when movies do that. I prefer something like Stargirl, where there's a lot of vibrant colors.
i agree, i would rather have the movie be more brighter n colorful rather than like u said the blandness of everything
I love when Nanomech first made his appearance
At first I didn’t really like that he first gets to the size of nanomech before transforming to how he’s supposed to look like but nowadays I’m fine with it because it’s like the omnitrix processes the transformation because nanomech is actually half nanochip half human and not fully nanochip
While it does seem like Max freaked out on Validus for no good reason, it was actually (from what I read) that Victor stole dangerous alien technology from the Plumbers to deal with the threat the chips were and during the interrogation, Max just thought Victor was making up excuses for his actions
I always thought it was funny they gave Nanomech a chipmunk voice in both UA and Omniverse.
14:59-15:08 funny how you mention one of the writers worked on 2003 Hulk cause pretty sure they replicated the effect of the Absorbing Man's powers from that film
My biggest issue with this movie was we only got 2 alien force Aliens and Kevin doesn’t keep his armor long enough
49:30 it would have been cool to do like a mix of both concepts with elena becoming both bens new love interest and a villian and have her overcome the chips influence and join the team but always with the possibility that she would turn bad again, kind of like with kevin and gwen
This movie was amazing however the only thing I would change about it is having 4 or 5 of bens aliens like add jetray and swampfire but I really love the introduction of nanomech he’s one of my absolute favorite aliens
Yeah most of the Alien Force aliens could translate well in live action. If only they had more budget
@@BrandonTBlackwell I know..
Yeah get rid of some of the car shots for aliens. Winter for some reason thought that vehicles=older audience and it perplexes me.
@@jasonnguyen2575 Hey, that's the deal with product placement and licensing, you want your budget? Promote our cars, ever wonder why Fast and Furious budgets are high as hell? Not just about the action
Man, I would have LOVED to see a fully-fleshed live-action Swampfire, from the articulation and design, it could have kicked butt out of the water 😍. Not so sure about Jetray though, don't fully see it 🤔.
But I agree with Brandon, they serve only under big-budget conditions to work
I kinda like the Omnitrix giving Ben the wrong alien and as you mentioned Big Chill was much better in that situation than Spidermonkey so it kinda adds to the idea that the Omnitrix is sentient and gives him the alien he needs over what he wants
Been waiting for this one. Keep up the amazing work!
There for tomorrow goes unbelievably hard so having a song by them for this movie back in the day had me hype af, I'll never forget dialing the number for Kevin's challenger back in the day. Good times
What are you talking about? This is Alien Force Season 1&2 tone to a tee: Teen Drama with Aliens and sci-fi.
I love the morph they did for the transformations. I do wish the Omnitrix glowed brighter during, or Ben was coated in a green layer like they do in OV
I’m pretty sure in the show Gwen wouldn’t be so calm about Kevin throwing a guy out a window
It's survival of the fittest, duck, and apparently, Kevin's the fittest.
If they ever make a third live action Ben 10 movie, preferably theatrical with a good budget, I would love if they made a movie after the events of Omniverse. Have Ben be in his early 20's and give references to the previous shows but you can introduce a new status quo to make it fresh for old and new audiences and you can mix and match any of the aliens from any series you would wan to to show off (as you said Kuro, hopefully 10 haha). It would be fun to see who they would cast as Ben too. Also bring back the rock soundtracks!
As for the "lots of silicon" thing, it's long been theorized that alien lifeforms would most likely be silicon based rather than carbon based in environments with extreme temperatures.
There was a Julie cameo at the bar that they went after the big chill incident
Or it’s just an extra
Bro I love the ink tank I love everything you guys do my support is through the roof I started making fusions because of you. Thank you.
I agree I do you like the bike his outfits
Gotta love another video, especially when the original with diamondbolt was funny and this one is more of a usual break down
Hey Kuro, my friends and I did a concept in our group chat where we came up with our own playlist of 10 aliens if we got to select them for our own omnitrix. I thought it’d be cool to see a video where you guys talk about what aliens you’d pick if you could have an omnitrix with just 10 aliens to start! Just a cool video idea!
Hey…. At least this movie was consistent with Alien Force’s season 1’s dark backgrounds 😅😅😅
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That reminds me of some of the Ben 10 toys that I love
So, this is something I didn't realize until now, Ben's fight inside Validus is probably why he's dead in Ultimate Alien.
Like he accidentally hit some of his nervous systems with his energy blasts
"What about his crush on Kai?"
I'd imagine he doesn't consider that genuine, not since she said she liked him better as a dog
“Worked on 2003 Hulk and rise of the silver surfer.” Ah so only the greats, huh
You can feel the 2000 vibes from that movie :D
Although I hated how the did "hacking" with epic music and just typing really fast on keyboard.
Bellwood being placed somewhere in Georgia would actually support the reason why Max, in the episode about the old-people's home and the slime creatures, has a southern accent.
I was actually mildly irritated by Kevin's car in the film, iy's established in Paradox that Kevin's car is a Classic car, 1976 precisely, so it felt wrong to me that it was a modern car
Actually his car in the show looks a bit more like the ‘74 Dodge Challenger, given the hood scoop
@@idle_speculationThat may be what It looks like, but the episode Paradox explicitly states that the car was made in 1976.
@@medafan53 i'm just saying visually
Regardless of this movies canonization, I think this is the car Kevin bought after War of the World's that looks like his original one. But it still gets destroyed anyway.
You know for what it's worth this movie isn't all that bad but there are always gonna be some people who are gonna hate on it like Watchtower Database is almost definitely gonna hate on it.
35:47Alex went to film school with Dwayne McDuffie.
I just realized that Nanomech's transformation is a callback to the Benwolf episode, where Ben transformed very slowly, presumably it's much quicker because he's smol and because Nanomech is half-human
I'm a little surprised you never mentioned the whole thing w/ the fake queen and Elena, but I figure you're saving it for the UA episode breakdown/quick review.
Yeah the retcon for the events of this movie being part of Elena’s plan to reconnect with Ben & the Plumbers is so BS. It falls apart in that very episode.
Of course I love the idea of Kevin in a beanie
Never noticed until today. They misspelled Surveillance every single time on the screen at 16:30 "Survelliance" instead of "Surveillance"
Those muggers are underrated af🤣
“It’s time for you to give us ya money”
Always had a head canon that Ed’s garage got remodeled into Max’s Plumbing by the time of OV, and that the underground base we see is the same as OV’s!
@TheGlassesPro Careful, the wiki is fan run. I’ve never heard that info from anyone who’s worked on the show so if it’s unsubstantiated, it might be someone just added their fan theory as if it were fact.
This movie at least remembered Humungousaur could sextuple in size, unlike OV.
Unlike majority of ua they seemed to completely forget about the size changing in ua.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 UA didn't forget about his size-changing capabilities, it just had him use Ultimate Humungousaur every chance he got. In fact, most if not all the situations he'd come across in UA, would be solved either way; with or without Humungousaur sextupling in size. I'd argue him going Ultimate Humungousaur would solve the problem more effectively by giving him the means to use both short-range and long-range attacks, both on the offensive and defensive.
@@FMK03 Yeah but the fact that he rarely ever used it there to the the point it just seems the writers completely forgot he could change in size.
Humungousaur stopped using his size-changing ability after "Video Games".
@@FMK03 Plus once Ben got Way Big big back, there was little reason to use Humungousaur's size-changing.
33:10 i think what she meant is like, they altered his physical appearance that she didnt recognize him but now that it was clearer
36:01 Nanomech’s omnitrix badge resembles the original omnitrix icon, and stays like that for a few seconds, right before nanomech flies off it changes back to the actual recalibrated omnitrix icon on the badge, kinda annoys me
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Okay so not only did I strongly rememeber Nanomech just being Ben's voice, I also misremembered this line.
I misremembered this whole scene actually. But one part of that is that I always remembered it being the "Humans never give up" bit first. And I did not know that one of Nanomech's powers was adaptation 'cause I remembered the line as "And drones... Drones can attack!"
I would really enjoy you and ash doing a tier list of all ben's love interests throughout the franchise
I actually remember winning a call-in contest around the time of this movie, me and my mom called in all night and she had to wake me up when we finally got them on the line. I got some Ben-themed patches for a jacket, a custom T-shirt with a logo on it, masks of all the alien force aliens +Ben Gwen and Kevin, and some stickers which I still have around my room. It’s a great memory for me and really makes me look back fondly on this movie even if I think it’s only okay
When I first saw the film, I had completely forgotten about Kai, so seeing them portray Elaina like she was a character that we were supposed to know already, made me think that this was her (also due to the fact that she kinda looked like her, with her dark hair), just with a rewritten character.
On another note, TFT rocks! A Little Faster is such a good song! Still have it on my main Spotify playlist and jam out to it every now and then!
I bet Ultimate Nanomech would essentially become a new queen, generating a whole swarm that can interface with technology. It would be like Uprigg is Uprigg was more of a cloud. I can't believe I never considered this before, given that I've speculated on nearly every unseen 'ultimate' xD
Basically he’d be a miniature UA Elena
I know we got Ben’s jacket but I wish we got Elena jacket to
Yeah, that red jacket is fly af.
Kuro and his cats is such a cute thing