That trick Chris uses of playing the harmonic and bending it above the nut isn't something I've seen before. It sounded super cool with distortion. I learned something today.
Country guitar players do the bending behind the nut thing sometimes to replicate b-bender/pedal steel bends, it’s slightly harder on bass though, depends on the string length behind the nut and the break angle over the nut.
Some of the early demos on RUclips of the Bass Butler were unimpressive. But THIS ... this, I like. Very informative, too, especially with your thoughts at the end.
The only *possible* way for this to be better is for an fx loop for each channel, so I have more control over the EQ by putting a GEB-7 or something in the loop. I'm already considering it tho.
Please keep including the epi vintage pro bird in pedal demos, it’s really useful for me, because it’s hard to know how some pedals will handle the pick ups on it, they’re a bit hot!
In case you guys don't know, Ade Emsley has also mastered The Book of Souls album for Iron Maiden. And I think he also worked on the most recent remasters.
Nice piece of equipment and from Orange for a change (with not having many bass pedals/items released in a while) Probably not for me right now as I've got equipment that suits my needs for now but to those out there still building rigs and pedalboards, get on it 😎🤘🏻
I have been looking at getting The Bass Butler since it was introduced in October .. I finally pulled the trigger & ordered one today... I can't wait until it arrives.
I have the Butler and the Terror Bass. Says in the manual that you can plug into the front of the amp. You CAN'T!!! If you do, the Terror will cut out. The line level supplied by the Butler is too much for the Terror Bass preamp to handle. It works via the Return jack as a preamp. Just a heads up...............
Gotta find someone to mod this baby for me. If there was another switch to switch the clean channel on and off as well, this could also serve as a powerful ABY pedal
honestly instead of an expression pedal hookup they shouldve given you another 1/4" output to have the option to actually bi amp if you wanted too, kinda baffled they didnt, otherwise it sounds great!
sound good with low gain but high gain sound like 30 metal zone to my hear! I wish you will put it against the microtube x7 ultra during the battle! I am also curious to ear a guitar pluged in it
I think there's a bigger limit to how much gain sounds good on bass vs guitar. Bass is a very punchy dynamic instrument and too much gain messes that up and it sounds flat
i must decide between the orange butler and the tech21 sh1. I play with a pick and my sound is in lemmy territory....distorted with strong mids (i'm not a fan of darkglass, too scooped and modern for my tastes). Yes, i know the tech 21 has the lemmy setting but i wonder if you could get pretty close also with the orange (what about orange mids?) I would like to hear your opinions!
The Tech21 nails the Lemmy sound pretty well. But the closest I ever got is with this little bastard - the Motörbass: ruclips.net/video/6s7FotldY8c/видео.html
I think you would like this pedal. This vid doesnt do it justice. Just curious...do you only have one tone that you always dial in? And if you were only going to dial in one tone why would you imitate someone else's? (Lemmy's tone IS great but I have several basses and play everything from Cannibal Corpse to James Brown) If I were chasing Lemmy's tone the first thing I would do is buy a Ric.
@@TheBassChannel i must decide between the orange butler (which sounds very organic and "real" to me) and the tech21 sh1. I play with a pick and my sound is in Lemmy territory....distorted with strong mids (i'm not a fan of darkglass, too scooped and modern for my tastes). Yes, i know the tech 21 has the lemmy setting but i wonder if you could get pretty close also with the orange (what about orange mids?) I would like to hear your opinions
Nice Grabber. Looks just like the one I used to have. This pedal reminds me of my Tech 21 Pinnick pedal...ironic considering my bass rig is all Orange.
Curious about your opinion of how this compares to the Darkglass VMT preamp. I’ve been riding the Darkglass train for a hot minute and wouldn’t mind trying something new. They sound similar but do they feel similar? This orange preamp actually sounds more meatier than the DG VMT.
Any of you guys know when this will be available? Cant find any near me and only preorders available online!! Trying to decide between that and Darkglass Alpha Omega Ultra!! Cant wait to get to try it Thanks!
That sounds incredible... Great option for play with distortion and definition... Now I'm indecisive with the alpha/omega or the Bass Butler... Damn! Someone tried both? Thanks.
bass butler a better choice according to me. Alpha omega is a 9v pedal so you have less headroom than the 18v bass butler. For bass à lot of headroom will give you definition and fat powerful low end. I have both the a/o and the butler and I can say that the feeling of the butler is very close to a good quality bass amp. The a/o is more of a distortion box (something you put before an svt or a big tube amp) but the butler is literally your full rig in a box. The clean channel is the most powerful low end I found in a pedal on the market period. :)
I like all the new bass pedal preamp out there but the simple truth is for pro bass tone you need high headroom. If you have an active bass of 18v I highly recommend the bass butler. If you have a passive bass you can go with whatever preamp you want.
This is my one and only gripe with this pedal. There needs to be some FX loop for one or both of the channels. I would like to see a more accurate compression-level meter LED system, but I can live without it.
Don't get me wrong, this pedal doesn't sound bad at all, but for the price of this thing you can almost get a HX-Stomp, that can do all of this and plenty more... Who needs analogue cab sims these days, when you can have all kinds of great sounding Impulse Response Patterns built into affordable pedals? Just my personal point of view.
I just recently got this. Its loud as fuck. Makes alot of line noise....its got me considwring adding a 2nd noise gate, directly behind this to tame it a bit...
Well, it’s possible that every other video has tones dialed in that you don’t prefer and maybe I accidentally found your sweet spot. 🤷🏻♂️ There was zero post-production on the audio (except adjusting some levels).
is there much difference between clean and distorted signal? My main Issue with OB-1 500 bass head (apart from not having an fx loop) is the ABYSS in volume between clean and blended signal. I Had to bring up the clean signal with a boost.
@Ryan Denley Phat Bass is right. Try not to think of these as Clean and Dirty channels, instead think of them as Low End and High End channels. You wouldn't want one without the other.
Do you use the Sans Amp Bass Driver DI? Because that has a -20dB pad on the XLR output. If you're able to run out through the XLR and engage that pad, it would probably solve your issue. I have an active bass that is way too hot and I always use a DI with a pad.
The tech 21 DP-3X (the Dug Pinnick sig) does the same thing. It emulates bi amping. I have it. It's awesome. The Orange Bass Butler came out a few months after I got the dUg (really pissed me off) Ironic since my rig is Orange.
I love this pedal. I own it. My only complaint is not being able to bypass the cab sim. I'd like the option of having my clean signal unaffected by the pedal but when comes to the distortion, there is no better for me.
@@TinkerToneworks The only way to bypass the cab sim that i know of is to use the amp output which blends the distortion and di together and by passes the cab sim. Thats great if you want the distortion running to your amp but as far as I can tell on the independent outputs there is no way to bypass the cab.
I really like the clean channel but wouldn't have much use for the high gain channel. If they sold one with just the clean channel for half the price, I'd be all over it.
rome8180 it’s nothing special with just the clean channel. It’s whole point is bi-amping. Keep the gain low on the clean channel and it sounds huge. Clear lows and clear highs.
Kev Mac my bass butler cost £199 on sale! Cheaper than the dark glass. I like the harmonic booster but it’s not got a fraction of the functionality the bass butler has. Nothing else I’ve ever tried comes close to it, it’s wonderful.
@@phatbass9548 Congrats,you scored a deal. My heavy gigging days are mostly behind me at 65 so the full price doesn't make sense at this point.Looks like a great Actually I was responding to a person that asked for a clean preamp at half the price hence the H.B. but it has been a pleasure talking to you.
GrimJaw333 not a drive pedal at all. Its a bi amp preamp. By splitting the signal it keeps the low end clear and the high end clear. Keep the gain low and it sounds better than any other bass rig. The gain is there if you need it but it’s not a drive pedal.
Idk man. I’ve seen a lot of drives with B/M/T controls. Plus you just said yourself bi-amping let’s you choose with part is clear which implies I can choose which part is driven.
I'm really not trying to be a dick here but Nicks playing really hurts the example. Just a little too ahead of the beat that it made the example feel odd. Good player but just a little more practise!
![Orange Bass Butler [IN THE MIX]](/img/1.gif)
That trick Chris uses of playing the harmonic and bending it above the nut isn't something I've seen before. It sounded super cool with distortion. I learned something today.
Country guitar players do the bending behind the nut thing sometimes to replicate b-bender/pedal steel bends, it’s slightly harder on bass though, depends on the string length behind the nut and the break angle over the nut.
Ashdown Geezer Head of Doom needs a full review in the way only you guys can do.
I had my phone connected to my car, and neither my car nor myself were ready for that intro!
Some of the early demos on RUclips of the Bass Butler were unimpressive. But THIS ... this, I like. Very informative, too, especially with your thoughts at the end.
Will has become the best player on the channel!
Yeah, I was kind of shocked at how much better he's gotten.
His power is growing
The only *possible* way for this to be better is for an fx loop for each channel, so I have more control over the EQ by putting a GEB-7 or something in the loop. I'm already considering it tho.
Amen!
Please keep including the epi vintage pro bird in pedal demos, it’s really useful for me, because it’s hard to know how some pedals will handle the pick ups on it, they’re a bit hot!
I think I need this. My main gig uses a helix, and that won’t change. But I’d love this for any side project I might have.
In case you guys don't know, Ade Emsley has also mastered The Book of Souls album for Iron Maiden. And I think he also worked on the most recent remasters.
Looks like some radio from my Soviet childhood. Выглядит, словно радиоприёмник из моего советского детства :)
THICCUUQQQQ
You and The Bass Channel uploaded/released at the same time! Choosing who to watch first was a very difficult choice.
Ahhhhhh! When are you going to do a video on this? 💪🧡
Nice piece of equipment and from Orange for a change (with not having many bass pedals/items released in a while)
Probably not for me right now as I've got equipment that suits my needs for now but to those out there still building rigs and pedalboards, get on it 😎🤘🏻
Holy cow! This thing sounds amazing! I might get one now!
It takes up sonic space doesn't it? Waiting on mine. My 2 guitar players will be green with envy.
I have been looking at getting The Bass Butler since it was introduced in October .. I finally pulled the trigger & ordered one today... I can't wait until it arrives.
Are the XLR outs at LINE LEVEL? I'm guessing they are. That's why you're input levels were hot. (You were plugged into a MIC preamp)
YEAH, THE BASSIST WITH THE AMAZING BASS PLAYER JAYME LEWIS
Jayme is so good that it's aggravating.
Goodbye darkglass!!
That preamp sounds killer. \m/ I like the distortion sounds that it provides.
It sounds better than your regular rigs you use. It's like taking the Le Bass cold fusion mode and running a better cab simulation.
Please demo the JHS Moonshine!
This is the best review I have ever seen.
Luis Nasser hell yea!🤘🏼🤘🏼
Yeah. This is the best bass distortion ever.
I'm a "little bit of distortion go's a long way on a bass" guy. I can definitely see me getting one of these though, it sounds amazing!
I'm more of a "goes" than a "go is" type of dude!
@@Kathayne636 lol! Unfortunately my playing is even worse than my spelling. Working on both though!
I have the Butler and the Terror Bass.
Says in the manual that you can plug into the front of the amp.
You CAN'T!!!
If you do, the Terror will cut out. The line level supplied by the Butler is too much for the Terror Bass preamp to handle.
It works via the Return jack as a preamp.
Just a heads up...............
I love the tones! They killed it with this one.
I want a pedal kind of like this but it also has a FX loop for each side so you can change the comp and diet to your own pedals
AWESOME!!!! Demo gentleman.
Gotta find someone to mod this baby for me. If there was another switch to switch the clean channel on and off as well, this could also serve as a powerful ABY pedal
When doing this, you would end up with a thin Hi-Channel. Would that be useful to your setup?
@@bazZzment For intros and quite sections of songs and any other madness I can come up with, most definitely. Are you saying its possible?
LRD UND Strange I don‘t assume it is, but maybe someone will come up with a solution for you.
I couldn't agree with you more about the mix or wet/dry feature on most pedals. That said... I think I need one of these.
This was great! Love this box. I recently bought an Ashdown Valve DI Preamp, and I love it! Would you guys do a review of it sometime?
I hit like before the video started
klaymeister you mad lad!
I LOVE that Ibanez Fieldy signature 😍
Me, too!
I LOVE that tone from 2:36 onwards :)
honestly instead of an expression pedal hookup they shouldve given you another 1/4" output to have the option to actually bi amp if you wanted too, kinda baffled they didnt, otherwise it sounds great!
That thing sounds great damn
Great pedal! And mr Will got the FuNk goin!
sound good with low gain but high gain sound like 30 metal zone to my hear! I wish you will put it against the microtube x7 ultra during the battle! I am also curious to ear a guitar pluged in it
That's exactly what it reminded me of a $$$ Metal Zone
I think there's a bigger limit to how much gain sounds good on bass vs guitar. Bass is a very punchy dynamic instrument and too much gain messes that up and it sounds flat
i must decide between the orange butler and the tech21 sh1. I play with a pick and my sound is in lemmy territory....distorted with strong mids (i'm not a fan of darkglass, too scooped and modern for my tastes).
Yes, i know the tech 21 has the lemmy setting but i wonder if you could get pretty close also with the orange (what about orange mids?)
I would like to hear your opinions!
I’m with you on Darkglass man. Except for the Alpha Omega, I just can’t seem to make ‘em work for me.
The Tech21 nails the Lemmy sound pretty well. But the closest I ever got is with this little bastard - the Motörbass: ruclips.net/video/6s7FotldY8c/видео.html
I think you would like this pedal. This vid doesnt do it justice.
Just curious...do you only have one tone that you always dial in? And if you were only going to dial in one tone why would you imitate someone else's? (Lemmy's tone IS great but I have several basses and play everything from Cannibal Corpse to James Brown) If I were chasing Lemmy's tone the first thing I would do is buy a Ric.
Sounds great dudes 🔥🤘
Thanks, dude!
@@TheBassChannel i must decide between the orange butler (which sounds very organic and "real" to me) and the tech21 sh1.
I play with a pick and my sound is in Lemmy territory....distorted with strong mids (i'm not a fan of darkglass, too scooped and modern for my tastes).
Yes, i know the tech 21 has the lemmy setting but i wonder if you could get pretty close also with the orange (what about orange mids?)
I would like to hear your opinions
I'm definitely feeling this!!! Alright 💪
Nice Grabber. Looks just like the one I used to have. This pedal reminds me of my Tech 21 Pinnick pedal...ironic considering my bass rig is all Orange.
I need to see to against the new Tech 21 Geddy Lee, same idea, almost same features, that should be fun
the sound of the distortion on 2:35 omfg
Anibal Resendez That was my favorite!
I find it closer to the Tech 21 Pinnick pedal, which is specifically designed to emulate bi amping. I have the Pinnick...it's awesome.
@@ferox965 Too bright for me
@@anibalresendezpulido You can dial that back...I have.
Hi. Great review! I am thinking of getting one of these. Do you know if I could put this pedal directly into the Headrush FRFR-108 speaker? Thanks
Very ironic. Patrick Hunter plays the orange bass butler while he is at the Darkglass Booth.
I wish it had a 3rd DI out XLR to sum it all as one signal
Outstanding video, love the tone!
Yeah I’d trade in my dark glass pedal for that.
Check out ADAM by DG.
Did Justin Chancellor pass behind Will in the NAMM clip with the Casady bass? lol
Any idea how it works on a preamp bass?
Fantastic review and such a cool piece of gear.
Curious about your opinion of how this compares to the Darkglass VMT preamp. I’ve been riding the Darkglass train for a hot minute and wouldn’t mind trying something new. They sound similar but do they feel similar? This orange preamp actually sounds more meatier than the DG VMT.
DG Adam is amazing. But it's also more $$ than the Bass Butler.
Cab I use other pedals along side this through the effects loop?
If I get this I will use a tiny submitter then send a summed signal to board
Any of you guys know when this will be available? Cant find any near me and only preorders available online!! Trying to decide between that and Darkglass Alpha Omega Ultra!! Cant wait to get to try it
Thanks!
I have a question about Will from this clip.....does he fix the cable at the end?
That sounds incredible... Great option for play with distortion and definition... Now I'm indecisive with the alpha/omega or the Bass Butler... Damn! Someone tried both? Thanks.
bass butler a better choice according to me. Alpha omega is a 9v pedal so you have less headroom than the 18v bass butler. For bass à lot of headroom will give you definition and fat powerful low end. I have both the a/o and the butler and I can say that the feeling of the butler is very close to a good quality bass amp. The a/o is more of a distortion box (something you put before an svt or a big tube amp) but the butler is literally your full rig in a box. The clean channel is the most powerful low end I found in a pedal on the market period. :)
I like all the new bass pedal preamp out there but the simple truth is for pro bass tone you need high headroom. If you have an active bass of 18v I highly recommend the bass butler. If you have a passive bass you can go with whatever preamp you want.
Im wondering when the dirt is disengaged do you get clean sound through that channel or just nothing?
That Street Fighter t-shirt oouh yeah!!
Can you use this as pretty much a bass head for a cab?
Yes but to power a cab you need a power amp. This Bass Butler is only a preamp. No power section.
How would I use it with another effect pedal? Like chorus, octave, etc.
This is my one and only gripe with this pedal. There needs to be some FX loop for one or both of the channels.
I would like to see a more accurate compression-level meter LED system, but I can live without it.
Does the compression work on the distortion channel or only the clean
Clean only.
Has the Bass Butler a built in noise gate or do I need a seperate pedal for that?
Could I run this at the end of my pedal board to get a cabsim’d di just from the clean channel so I can run my other pedals behind it?
Don't get me wrong, this pedal doesn't sound bad at all, but for the price of this thing you can almost get a HX-Stomp, that can do all of this and plenty more...
Who needs analogue cab sims these days, when you can have all kinds of great sounding Impulse Response Patterns built into affordable pedals?
Just my personal point of view.
I just recently got this. Its loud as fuck. Makes alot of line noise....its got me considwring adding a 2nd noise gate, directly behind this to tame it a bit...
I'm torn. It sounds better than any drive I have in this video, but everywhere else it sounds like absolute crap
Well, it’s possible that every other video has tones dialed in that you don’t prefer and maybe I accidentally found your sweet spot. 🤷🏻♂️
There was zero post-production on the audio (except adjusting some levels).
is there much difference between clean and distorted signal?
My main Issue with OB-1 500 bass head (apart from not having an fx loop) is the ABYSS in volume between clean and blended signal. I Had to bring up the clean signal with a boost.
Hmm, is the cab sim always on? If you could turn it off I'd want this pedal.
It’s always on when using the Balanced Direct Output but not when using the 1/4” Output.
Live this channel!
1:00 What is the name of the red bass guitar reflected in this?
Fender jp-90
Great review! :)
Just play Test for Echo!
The clean sound was completely muffled sounding by itself even with the treble turned up. I think that would be a deal breaker for me.
I agree but don’t use only the clean channel.
I always have both channels on with the guitar channel on low gain and it sounds immense.
@Ryan Denley
Phat Bass is right. Try not to think of these as Clean and Dirty channels, instead think of them as Low End and High End channels. You wouldn't want one without the other.
Could I plug this straight into my tascam portastudio?
Yes.
How does this work with an 18v active bass? At church, I currently use a Sans amp and it gives me issues with my 18v active bass.
No more government subsidies for active basses.
Do you use the Sans Amp Bass Driver DI? Because that has a -20dB pad on the XLR output. If you're able to run out through the XLR and engage that pad, it would probably solve your issue. I have an active bass that is way too hot and I always use a DI with a pad.
I think it's a hangover from passive bass days that you need your bass output volume knob full up. Dial it down to 70% maybe and try from there
Josh is the fucking master!
Bass Butler or Sans Amp v2 ?
The tech 21 DP-3X (the Dug Pinnick sig) does the same thing. It emulates bi amping. I have it. It's awesome. The Orange Bass Butler came out a few months after I got the dUg (really pissed me off) Ironic since my rig is Orange.
I love this pedal. I own it. My only complaint is not being able to bypass the cab sim. I'd like the option of having my clean signal unaffected by the pedal but when comes to the distortion, there is no better for me.
You can't bypass the cab sim? Even when going into an amp and cab? Or is the cab sim only on the clean DI?
@@TinkerToneworks The only way to bypass the cab sim that i know of is to use the amp output which blends the distortion and di together and by passes the cab sim. Thats great if you want the distortion running to your amp but as far as I can tell on the independent outputs there is no way to bypass the cab.
@@TBM_studios_ thanks for the info.
2.36 Darkglass who?...
Thought that opening was Left Behind by slipknot for a second
Tremendous
What was the second bass?
dangermoose666 took me a moment. Haha
dangermoose666 not the tbird. The black one with the signature on the headstock.
dangermoose666 ya, must be the PRS
dangermoose666 I looked it up. PRS SE Kestrel. Looks nice.
of course it's pos centred..
I really like the clean channel but wouldn't have much use for the high gain channel. If they sold one with just the clean channel for half the price, I'd be all over it.
rome8180 it’s nothing special with just the clean channel.
It’s whole point is bi-amping.
Keep the gain low on the clean channel and it sounds huge.
Clear lows and clear highs.
@@phatbass9548 Darkglass Harmonic Booster,super clean preamp and half the price.
Kev Mac my bass butler cost £199 on sale! Cheaper than the dark glass.
I like the harmonic booster but it’s not got a fraction of the functionality the bass butler has.
Nothing else I’ve ever tried comes close to it, it’s wonderful.
@@phatbass9548 Congrats,you scored a deal. My heavy gigging days are mostly behind me at 65 so the full price doesn't make sense at this point.Looks like a great Actually I was responding to a person that asked for a clean preamp at half the price hence the H.B. but it has been a pleasure talking to you.
400 bucks?.....no thanks
lol typical orange price
Save like 200 and get a used darkglass preamp instead
@@crypticdon It is nice but the price is nuts
Oh wow another drive pedal....
GrimJaw333 not a drive pedal at all.
Its a bi amp preamp. By splitting the signal it keeps the low end clear and the high end clear.
Keep the gain low and it sounds better than any other bass rig.
The gain is there if you need it but it’s not a drive pedal.
Idk man. I’ve seen a lot of drives with B/M/T controls. Plus you just said yourself bi-amping let’s you choose with part is clear which implies I can choose which part is driven.
The SansAmp is still better than this.
Jeyme Lewis is really nice guy and I like his videos in general but I just can't stand his hat. Seriously I just can't stand that hat.
Reminds me of Fred Durst
nick maffei.....🤦♂️
I'm really not trying to be a dick here but Nicks playing really hurts the example. Just a little too ahead of the beat that it made the example feel odd. Good player but just a little more practise!
I agree... Nick's timing is awful. Not just here either. He seems slightly off the beat always.