Underworld T4s and Iso8 - Destromonger Breaks Down Positioning! - Marvel Strike Force
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
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Time Stamps
00:00 Opening
00:40 T4s and Iso 8 Nobu
01:23 T4s and Iso 8 Kingpin
02:25 T4s and Iso 8 Taskmaster
03:08 T4s and Iso 8 Greem Goblin
04:05 T4s and Iso 8 Mr Negative
04:52 Proper Positioning With Destromonger
08:12 Poor Placement With Destromonger
09:49 Save Squads Matter!
12:36 Special Thanks To Contributors
13:53 Closing
Really informative.
This team is surprisingly enjoyable to play. Will be even better with Negative. I like them.
Never knew placement is that important. Thx alot bro! Anyway, i got a question regarding clear revive once, can it be resisted like SS ult clearing charge? Thx!
I do not believe that clear revive once is an effect that goes through a focus/resist check as I've not had it be resisted even in some situations where a low character was facing a much higher character. However, I have not specifically tested this. So I do not claim this is absolutely the case.
Great insights fellas !
Do the positioning slot numbers dictate the order of when passives trigger in ALL teams or just Underworld?
This is something that would impact all teams. It's just not a noticeable on other teams since there aren't as many teams/characters that have passives or abilities that play off each other in such quick succession.
Another example is the BA bug that was found recently between Hulkbuster and Viv Vision. You want VV's passive to resolve after HB's. So their placement is critical in that same regard. Although theirs triggers on dropping below 50% hp rather than on spawn.
We are trying to look into any other potential teams/characters that may have useful positioning like what was found here, but it's a bit of a manual process.
just to be clear, are the number indicated here 1-5 when the passive order for the team or the game in general? curious because that would also change up how bionic is placed too, no?
This is the order in which all characters/teams will resolve their passives. It's just that not a lot of teams have passives/abilities that both have the same triggering condition and can potentially build or play off of each other. So it's not as noticeable for other teams.
As for Bionic Avengers specifically, you want to take advantage of this by placing Hulkbuster to where his passive resolves before Viv Vision. The difference in placement here will be that when Hulkbuster goes below 50%, if his passive resolves first and he had taunt, he will give offense down to the entire enemy team which is what you want. However, if Viv Vision's passives resolves first, she will give stealth to Hulkbuster when he drops below 50%. Since stealth clears taunt, the offense down potion of his passive will not trigger even if he had taunt at the beginning of that turn because he will not have taunt when his passive resolves.
Edit: I accidentally hit the submit button halfway through my response.
how about Nobu as a healer?
a little extra heals don't hurt right?
I’m building this team for use in CC and war. I don’t think many people will know how to deal with this
So does Mr. Negative go in the same slot as the Merc Lieutenant or does he go in position 1 (the empty slot at the end of the video)? Love your videos, keep up the great work!
Really the only important placement is taskmaster in the very last slot. To avoid any confusion I mean the last slot the game fills on the far left.
Nice video as always, I am getting back to this 'cause I am building my UW now, so is this still valid? I am getting 700 turn meter as opposed to 800 that you said on this video, so what am I missing? Any t4 that I have to do to get 800? Positioning is just like you showed left to right - TM, GG, MN, KP and Nobu. Thanks for the awesome work as always!
Hmmm no so long as TM is far left you should be good! That’s very weird if you’re not getting the max speed.
Edit: looks like I may have misspoke and that 700 is the max not 800. So if you position it improperly you could get 500 or 600 based on TM positioning.
@@DorkyDadMSF Perfect, yes I tested a couple of times with diff positioning and manually picking the characters and the turn meter gain does go down so I definitely get 700 now so should be fine. Thanks a lot
Also you didn’t say about green goblins passive is 15% armor to underworld
Interesting. It's not just positioning but who you put into the team first.
Peace King. Question for ya.. Why not put Taskmaster in the middle, replace Merc Lt with Bullseye Bullseye left of Taskmaster? He'll give Task speed up on Spawn which will allow him to Ult twice in 3 turns & continue to allow him to keep attacking. Just a thought... 😉✌️
There's two parts of your question that I'd like to address.
First, if we put Taskmaster in the middle, his passive will resolve first before Kingpin's, and that will give us less turn meter than if we have Taskmaster in a spot lower in the resolution order than Kingpin.
Second, as to replacing Merc Lt. with Bullseye, I think you might be confusing Bullseye's passive with another character, but off the top of my head, I cannot think as to whom. I went back to look at Bullseye's passive and the rest of the Mercs, and none of them give speed up on spawn. Bullseye gives accuracy and crit damage. Plus he assists Mercs on non-attack abilities while on war def. In the meantime while Mr. Negative is unavailable to us, any Merc Villain could be substituted for Merc Lt., but I do feel that Merc Lt. well benefit Taskmaster and the group as a whole better than any of the other Mercs.
@@destrojenra841 Gotcha. I'll revert back to Lt then.
Thanks king. ✌️
@@deadmanrashaun No worries! Hope that helps.
but ALL cc said they are underwhelming
I think it's mostly going to vary for each player's roster and how much you value war. This certainly doesn't feel like a team that every player needs to build immediately, but I'm seeing a lot of positive impact from them from a lot of players that are war focused. I personally decided to work on them a bit because I've already built Taskmaster pretty high, and for the moment, he carries this team pretty hard. Plus I have all the other characters at 7*. I'm also seeing a lot of people have success with a Spider-Weaver variant until we get Negative, Noir, and 2099.
Regardless, the biggest thing to take away is that if you're going to use them, this will give you the information you need to know to maximize their effectiveness because an additional 10 or 20% turn meter on spawn could potentially make or break a fight because speed is king.
Broo, how did u get 3 mill in scourge.. I'm maxed at 1.8
Ravagers lol
Videos on that coming soon! But in short a stupidly big roster
@@topjimmy7028 HA works too
Hes exceptionally smart and has strong roster.
@@DorkyDadMSF at least you're being honest haha. I had a good run for 2m, surprisingly easy, maybe it was rng. Kinda left all the scourges that I never want to deal with, so donno how to improve.
I love the content. Again oddly educational. Lol. I do have a question. I have aspergers and part of that is misophonia. It's trigger by lip smacking and it hurts bad. Is there achance you could consider cutting it back? I really like your info and it makes a 10 minute video take 35 minutes to watch from all the times my brain does its thing. It made school hell and it has taken over most of my life. Its truly its own hell
I can absolutely try to be better about it. My current mic isn’t that great and picks up a lot of things even though it’s heavily gated. I’ll try to find the sweet spot to cut that noise out!
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