I always questioned my non-belief. Would it hold up in a fox hole? Then I got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, which has a 6% survival rate. People offered to lay hands on me, pray for me, and pray with me. Never once did I think "well, it cant hurt." I was not obstinate, stubborn, or angry. I simply was honest that I possessed not an inkling of belief.
I have my own "foxhole" story. On a cross-country drive once, I woke up doing 70 in the median. It never once crossed my mind to pray. I just got the car under control, got out of the median, and sat for a few minutes for the adrenaline to subside.
Atheists and foxholes . . . I spent 20 years in the US Air Force and known quite a number of people who served in Vietnam and since. My experience is that more atheists come OUT of foxholes than went IN.
Watched my mother pass away from cancer. Not once did I think to myself "I'll see her again some time" I knew deep in my bone marrow that I'll never see her again, ever. It was sad, yes. But it was also the truth, and I'd rather live a hurtful truth than a pretty lie.
The Bible predicted the Messiah would have his hands and feet pierced, they were as He was nailed to the cross. (They could have hung Him) The Bible predicted that He would be hated by His own people, by and large the Jews did NOT accept Him as messiah. The Bible predicted the Messiah would suffer a criminal's death, He was crucified between two criminals. The Bible predicted the Messiah would come 483 years after the king made a decree to re-build Jerusalem, Jesus made His triumphant entry into Jerusalem claiming to be Messiah to the day 483 years after King Artexersis made a decree to re-build Jerusalem. The Bible said the Messiah would be buried in a rich man's tomb, Jesus was buried in the tomb of Joseph of Arimethea, a very rich man. The Bible said the Messiah would be called a Nazarene, Jesus grew up in Nazareth. The Bible said the Messiah would be given vinegar, the Roman soldiers gave Jesus vinegar on the cross. The Bible said the Jewish Messiah would be a light to the Gentiles, (non-Jews) The vast majority of followers of Jesus around the world are NON-Jews. The Bible said the Messiah would be called oout of Egypt. The parents of Jesus took Him as an infant to Egypt to escape Herod who wanted to kill all babies under two. They were called back to Israel from Egypt after Herod died. The Bible predicted that a close friend would betray the Messiah, Judas told the Roman soldiers where to find Jesus. The Bible predicted the Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah; Jesus was. The Bible said the Messiah would be from the lineage of King David; Jesus was. The Bible predicted the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem; Jesus was. The Bible said The Messiah would NOT have any broken bones; it was customary for crucified individuals to have their bones broken to hasten death, but when they came to Jesus, He was already dead. The Bible said the Messiah would have people gamble for His clothes; the soldiers at the crucifixion gambled for Jesus' cloak. The Bible said the Messiah would bring in a new covenant; Jesus did. His death on the cross, once for all did away with the need for the slaughtering of lambs at the Jewish temple. The Bible said the Messiah would suffer; Jesus was beaten, had his beard ripped out of His face, and was brutally nailed to the cross. The Bible said the Messiah would be a prophet; Jesus predicted the destruction of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. The Bible said the Messiah would come riding on a donkey; Jesus did. The Bible said the Messiah would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver; Judas Iscariot was given 30 pieces of silver for betraying Jesus. The Bible said the Messiah would be a willing sacrifice; Jesus willingly went to the cross, and even predicted His death in Jerusalem. The Bible said the Messiah would be proceeded by a messenger; Jesus was heralded by John the Baptist. The Bible said the Messiah would be descended from Abraham; Jesus was a descendant of Abraham. The Bible said the Messiah would be lifted up; Jesus was lifted up on the cross. The Bible said the Messiah would perform signs of healing; Jesus did. I could go on, but it is already so long you probably won't read it.
@@Mike-qt7jp the bible was invented 40 years after the fact and modified through out history with every new thing that ppl wanted to add in it so it would make control over the dumb slave masses much easier,thus making all predictions not really predictions lol. this is beside the point that history proved that bible was invented to control the masses of slaves at that time and science proved bible not only isnt accurate to reality,but was written by dumb ppl who didnt even know how the universe around them works at that time. u're critical thinking and education=0 dude!😒go back to school and pay attention in science classes!!🙄
@@Ooshgaar I also thought it not possible, then low and behold Almondo Calvo opened his mouth and done what was thought impossible, have points stupider than Ray and of course be a plagiarist.
When I had a ruptured colon and knew I could die if surgery was not done very soon it never occurred to me to pray or even think of a god. All I thought was - “Pain killers NOW!” “Surgery NOW!”
Here's a challenge: State something that is too crazy for anyone to believe. Can't do it, can you ? I can't either. With the crazy belief bar that low, belief in a magic sky spook seems less crazy that some other beliefs....or maybe not?
The atheist emotional response study was done by the Institute of Behavioral Sciences, University of Helsinki and the department of anthropology at Ashford University by measuring skin conductivity. They did get the results the title says. What is interesting though is that the study itself goes out of its way to say they don't know exactly why the results theu got are what they got and that there may be other variables that play into the results. They then went on to name a couple of variables they believe could be relevant, including previous religious belief, how long they had been atheists, level of atheism, beliefs of friends and family, etc. They also said that appealing to a God as an atheist could be the reason for the result in and of itself. Essentially, recording cognitive dissonance through skin conductivity. So it absolutely didn't say atheists believe in God secretly, just that there was an emotional reaction with no explanation.
So 2 Christians and 2 Atheists went for a job at the zoo The boss says to the Atheists, your job is to feed the Monkeys The Elephants and the Snakes. The Christians ask what their job is The boss says you’re here to feed the Lions.
Ironically today I watched a creationist video claiming that's how Noah fed the lions on the ark, but with floating dead sinniers. It was also a joke from Sheldon's mom on Big Bang Theory. Who knew it was established scientific fact ?
@@DoctorZisIN Because theists, in their bloodlust, only think about the corpses of people, forgetting the infinitely more numerous corpses of innocent animals.
Wait, Almondo! Chupacabra does exist. I have a concept of it, so it must exist. You deny its existence, therefore it exists. You are an achupacabrist! It’s coming for you!
The shades I can tolerate. He's filming and probably has several lights pointed at his face. What is obnoxious though is his wearing a leather jacket while sitting inside in a vain attempt to look cool. (The shades are probably worn for that reason, too, but they at least could be explained away hypothetically.)
usually. unless they are high as fck. altho thats a reason to wear sunglasses. and just wearing shades inside for no reason is indeed a great reason to not pay attention to them😂
I would love to grant Almando the title dumbest apologist alive, but there are way too many contenders to chose from. By his logic (and that of many others who spew the exact same argument), them arguing AGAINST evolution means they know it's real. CHECKMATE ATHETITS ... no ... wait ...
That's what made it so laughable when the first guy accused atheists of being anti-reason/logic. Classic tactic of painting the opposition as doing the shit you actually do.
to be fair they are being watched by heir glorious leader 24/7 and one wrong word could land them in hot -water- brimstone, they have no choice but to be dishonest.
I do love it when people generalize those with different beliefs. I’ve got no problem with average atheists, but this comment stinks reeeeal bad of reddit atheism Seriously, believe what you want, but please avoid putting down perfectly good people as you do so
The man with the dark glasses doing a Dr Strangelove impression seems to be arguing that theism must be true because it has more utility than atheism. I thought we had got beyond that years ago.
Well, it's apparently _very_ useful _for him_ if a lot of people believe that bullshit, so going with the Jordan Peterson definition of "truth is that which is most useful", for him, that bullshit is definitely true... Too bad that's not how truth _or_ epistemology work. But he's apparently been making money off this grift, so... On a _completely_ unrelated note - am I the only one who was instantly reminded of the Mafia underboss Sonny from "Ghost Dog"...?
He's using the argument that governments rationalize using religion for. "If they believe this they are easy to control" Governments do not like people being logical and self thinking
I used to think that maybe, if my life was on the line, I'd start praying again or something. Until it happened, and I was in the hospital, bleeding and inexplicably unable to clot for a couple of hours, losing quite a bit of blood. I honestly thought that was it. I had two of my loved ones by my side, and that was good enough for me. Oddly enough, I didn't pray or think "what if God is real". I just thought "I'm lucky to have people who love me who are by my side at the end." Now, I did in fact survive, but at the time I was pretty sure that was it for me.
Am I the only one who feels physically ill whenever Tate says anything? And I love how that “Dr” said the kids get indoctrinated. At least he got one thing right
@@ZackMaddox-gd1zk Kissing Andrew Tate's ass🤮🤮🤮 Can I wash it before ? You know, with pure industrial bleach and 90% hydrogen peroxide for a month or two.
Almando really ought to be a Poe. It's incredible how little self-awareness he has and how arrogant he is despite this. He's so certain he's smart no matter what inanities he's saying. Reminds me of a certain stable genius. But still somehow hard to believe.
I wouldn't dignify them by calling them 'arguments'. Each statement he made was just a repetition of a common Christian talking point which he mangled and mis-stated to the point of incomprehensibility
And somehow their god doesn't violate the first law of thermodynamics by poofing stuff into existence, because he's a god. They really love that special pleading.
That's why a lot of them fall for conspiracies theories. They already believe in the supernatural so if demons are real why not lizard people or Hillary Clinton eating babies in the basement of a pizza shop. Once you believe one nonsensical thing it's easier to believe the next one that comes along.
God SPOKE the universe into existence. As he is spaceless, timeless and matterless, he had no body, so no mouth, and there was not air that could have made his incantation spell heard. Quite apart that as God is timeless and unchanging, at what point in non-time change hs mind and decided to create a universe??? A decision means that there is a before and after. Then God is not timeless anymore.
Armando's 7th point 3:38 : Carl Linnaeus, who developed the first modern system of classification of species, was a devoted Christian. He did not want to classify humans as apes because his beliefs taught him that humans were separate from other animals. However, his study of comparative anatomy convinced him he had no choice. He was a true scientist in that he did not allow his personal beliefs to outweigh the evidence. He was in no sense an 'evolutionist' in that the idea that species changed over time had not been introduced while he lived.
The guy with the "scientific studies" was definitely the most interesting. Plus he gives us a textbook example of why it's a really bad idea to approach a scientific study with a predetermined conclusion already in mind. Plus, have you ever noticed how if a believer is ever in a situation where their mortal life appears to be in peril, they always pray for God to _spare_ their life instead of hoping that they'll get to go straight to everlasting bliss in heaven? Somehow they always have some compelling reason why it would be a bad idea to escape this earthly realm of suffering and sorrow just yet. Funny that. Almost as if, no matter how firmly you believe in heaven, you know deep down that you have to be physically alive to believe it.
There are so many other potential reasons for the reactions in the study! Were the people afraid they would get punished by their peers or the guards for saying something blasphemous? Do they come from families where that kind of language would be punished and have a learned response to it? Dude doesn't explain what the emotional reactions *were*, so what if they were positive emotions?
I'm assuming that Almondo failed whatever basic training he was supposed to have been going through since I don't think that he can meet even the explicitly lowered IQ standards of the modern US Military.
As someone who participated in a similar study, they do it with word games. "Why don't you ask god to punish you or annual or your family?" "Which god?" "You know god, they one and only godx "Oh Odin please come down to earth and punish me and my family!" "No, god, ask god!" "Which fucking god, mate? Odin? Vishnu? Brahma? YHWH? Zeus? Name the god and i will because u now how words work and "god" is a title not a name." "See you won't say it, thus you really believe in god!" "No you absolute Ponce, name the god and I'll do as you asked" "Nope, you just believe in a god!" *plugs ears, chants, "lalala can't hear you!"
8:26 Joke‘s on you, in my country the white bread usually used in toasters IS colloquially called toast 😂 So for everyone wondering: Yes there indeed exists ‚untoasted toasts‘ here.
One thing I figured out is that all these theists think of being an atheist as a religious organization. It shows how limited their thinking is that they can't imagine people not belonging to an organization that dictates how they should think. I loved how Mark Maron described himself as an atheist. It's not that he proactively doesn't believe in God, he just doesn't have the energy to care. I mean I'm a Christian mainly because I was raised as one and I need to believe in life after death to *not* be in a constant state of existential panic. It's my drug of choice.
About that "submarine that is about to implode" - there is a scene in "Das Boot" where things are _really_ bad, and while everyone else is working hard to fix things, the *_one_* very religious guy is praying - until one of the machinists yells at him to stop praying, because two more hands would be _much_ more useful. I don't remember whether Buchheim had put something like that in the book (i.e. whether he actually encountered such a moment in his own submarine experiences), or whether they added it for the movie, but considering that a lot of actual WWII submariners watched it and deemed it to be _very_ realistic, especially the crew interactions... Well, I'd say Ti... sorry, Tate is *_demonstrably_* wrong. As usual.
I think that Almando is confusing Reductio ad Absurdum with Ex Nihilo. To reduce a proposition to absurdity, you first need a proposition. Just as God pulled creation out of nothing, Almando pulls absurdities from the vacancy of his mind.
It's so damn hard to go out into the wilds and find a real atheists in their natural environment, guys! It's much easier and simpler to imagine one in your own head, and have imaginary discussion with them. This method is clearly superior to talking with a real atheist, because you can't lose a discussion happening in your own head.
16:50 Dude just said that chupacabra, man-bat, and mermaids don't exist. That proves beyond a shadow doubt that he absolutely believes that they exist. After all, why go through the trouble of denying them if he didn't believe in them?
I grew up going to church with my family.....we come from a long line of Methodist Ministers. I don't think i evee believed in a god. Just went to church, taught Sunday School and loved to sing the hymns( which im good at). In my 20s that i thought about it and realised i never did believe. 5 of my 7 brothers also are atheists.
15:44 I wouldn’t spend any time arguing against a god if theists wouldn’t shove it in my face, almost on a daily basis. Honestly, I don’t even think about the god concept until someone else brings it up.
As a teenager in the small hours (after a lot of beer and maybe some MJ) I out load said 'if god is real then strike me down now'. A while later there was a thunder storm. I moved away from the wood stove. That garnered a few laughs. Guess what? 4 decades later ...im still here.
@@FatWhiskyDrinkingGuy If a thunder hit the wood stove, we can make a device to extract reliabily energy from thunderstorms: go near a lightning rod, blaspheme, and back off, God strikes the place of the blasphemy instead the blasphemer.
10:56 that’s not how we say it happened. It’s a byproduct of other older psychological mechanisms such as aggressive pattern recognition and agent bias.
The emotional response one isn't that bad despite its small and unrandom sample size. The article was actually 2 studies. The second was a reaction to the results of the first in order to see if they could find an explanation. What's funny is, I'm not sure dude read the study beyond the results. He read none of the discussion or conclusion. at all. They actually point out in the study many of the problems Skeptick did A)they need a bigger sample, B) there are some variables that could account for the effect they are seeing including level of atheism, length of atheism, previous religiosity, religiosity of family and friends, etc. C)that saying bad shit may make people feel bad. In response to rhe "I wish" statements versus the "God" statements with the "God" statements being worse, the author's point out that the I wish statements weren't as harsh as the god statements so that could be an explanation for why they saw more of a response to the god statements. They both wished bad things, but the level of bad things was worse for the God statements than the Inwish statements. Finally, they also said that the effect they saw could easily be just from asking an atheist to ask God for something. Essentially: they created cognitive dissonance, and that was what they were measuring. Pretty much the study said "we are seeing this effect in a very small sample of people, and we don't know why. It needs further study."
As far as the "dare god to do something terrible to your family" bit. Replicate the experiment daring anything else. Like "the universe." You'd likely have the same result. Because you're imagining something terrible happening to your family.
In that study mentioned in the last clip... so, the way I heard it was that Christians showed little or no hesitation at saying that they wanted bad things to happen to other people? Yet they somehow twisted that to mean Christians are "good" 😢
As far as Tate's comment about the submarine and the implosion... I find it humorous that people pray in situations facing certain death, and God never comes through to save them any more than Lisa comes through for anyone.
The idea of "suppressing the truth" assumes that the idea of a subconscious mind existed in the time of the New Testament, which it did not. The original Greek text, as well as early English translations, reflect this fact- they say things like "hold" in place of the Greek katexein, which means "hold back" (i.e. from other people). And when "suppress" IS used, it is in the same sense as "suppressing dissent".
Apologetics often focus solely on secular cosmology & biology because if things ever go into the theist side of the argument they end up having to defend nonsense like thaumaturgy and vague metaphors and allegories that themselves don't have any consistent definition in the way scientific ideas do
Armando took so many takes of this while holding his dumbphone that it wrinkled the heck out of the left side of his shirt. Maybe there is an ironing board on the other side of that door he almost went through 86 times, or perhaps it's where he keeps the straw for his arguments.
“Theists claim a god belief because they hate their lives and have their fingers crossed they’ll have a better one in an afterlife they can’t prove.” How’s that feel, theists?
Before the start of this video, the mandatory ad was for a ministry (no really). After I hit skip I thought, "That had to be sent by Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe".
6:15 This is either the most poorly constructed experiment ever, or purposely designed to come to a desired conclusion. A proper study would at least have theists, deconverted theists (now atheists) and atheists from birth to rule out childhood indoctrination. As well, when asking questions about god, or asking people to say things with respect to a god it should be done with several different gods (eg, Odin, Zeus). I think that experiment would yield vastly different results.
@@johndemeritt3460 Yeah, that too! I really want to track down that study to get a better look at who conducted it and what the methodology was. I'm also betting this didn't make it into a proper scientific journal.
Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe does not exist. Now excuse me, but I have to rake out the leaf pile that suddenly appeared in my living room. And it looks... angry? Can leaves be angry?
No one in any circumstances going to DARE any God to hurt their family not because they believe in that God but because it's our duty to protect the ones we love and not even in a total fictional way would we view such nonsense
9:40 - Wearing dark glasses indoors already tells me all I need to know about this person, I am also a South African and I assure you that the sun is really not that bright that I need to wear dark glasses inside my house.
And does he not realize that Islam where it is dominant has an iron grip on the government, and the citizens of those countries are forced to participate in Islam under literal threat of death.
Almando is wrong about atheists creating Lady Luck. Theists in ancient Rome created La Fortuna. She had earlier been known as Tyche by the ancient Greeks. When will this guy read a book other than the bible?
Yes they are supremely arrogant and also believe that they are mind readers and of course they keep repeating over and over again some version of Romans 1:20.
Didn't people evolve with a bias for attributing agency to things for survival? Doesn't that better explain the second and third study the second guy brought up better than "we all secretly believe"?
At least Lisa, the rainbow giraffe, has defined parameters. God, on the other hand, has variable parameters. Even the bible contradicts itself on the subject, by stating: “… I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” - Genesis 32:30 “No man hath seen God at any time…”- John 1:18. “… with God all things are possible.” - Matthew 19:26 “…The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.” - Judges 1:19
It's the parade of Dunning Kruger mixed with constant strawmanning of Atheism! I literally have NEVER seen a creationist actually argue against real Atheism.
if almondo did actually join the army i hope he has a job not actually requiring a functioning brain. Knowing him hopefully the Chaplin core or something
I don't know... people go to chaplins for comfort. I wouldn't want to see that "comforter" be Almondo, even if I think chaplins are - in reality - unnecessary.
I don't think any of these people has ever met an atheist face-to-face; all they know is what their religious organization tells them atheists believe. I've never seen so many words used to say nothing.
I always questioned my non-belief. Would it hold up in a fox hole? Then I got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, which has a 6% survival rate. People offered to lay hands on me, pray for me, and pray with me. Never once did I think "well, it cant hurt." I was not obstinate, stubborn, or angry. I simply was honest that I possessed not an inkling of belief.
I have my own "foxhole" story. On a cross-country drive once, I woke up doing 70 in the median. It never once crossed my mind to pray. I just got the car under control, got out of the median, and sat for a few minutes for the adrenaline to subside.
And you never thanked Jesus for the "miraculous" save.@@jursamaj
Atheists and foxholes . . . I spent 20 years in the US Air Force and known quite a number of people who served in Vietnam and since. My experience is that more atheists come OUT of foxholes than went IN.
Watched my mother pass away from cancer. Not once did I think to myself "I'll see her again some time" I knew deep in my bone marrow that I'll never see her again, ever. It was sad, yes. But it was also the truth, and I'd rather live a hurtful truth than a pretty lie.
Sorry to hear Ray...but I absolutely hear you... live it whilst you can. I am
I did a study and I found that theists don't really believe a god exists.
Apparently it's lots easier to make sh*t up than talk to a real atheist.
Well, Almando doesn't make stuff up, he just recycles other apologists stuff
The Bible predicted the Messiah would have his hands and feet pierced, they were as He was nailed to the cross. (They could have hung Him) The Bible predicted that He would be hated by His own people, by and large the Jews did NOT accept Him as messiah. The Bible predicted the Messiah would suffer a criminal's death, He was crucified between two criminals. The Bible predicted the Messiah would come 483 years after the king made a decree to re-build Jerusalem, Jesus made His triumphant entry into Jerusalem claiming to be Messiah to the day 483 years after King Artexersis made a decree to re-build Jerusalem. The Bible said the Messiah would be buried in a rich man's tomb, Jesus was buried in the tomb of Joseph of Arimethea, a very rich man. The Bible said the Messiah would be called a Nazarene, Jesus grew up in Nazareth. The Bible said the Messiah would be given vinegar, the Roman soldiers gave Jesus vinegar on the cross. The Bible said the Jewish Messiah would be a light to the Gentiles, (non-Jews) The vast majority of followers of Jesus around the world are NON-Jews. The Bible said the Messiah would be called oout of Egypt. The parents of Jesus took Him as an infant to Egypt to escape Herod who wanted to kill all babies under two. They were called back to Israel from Egypt after Herod died. The Bible predicted that a close friend would betray the Messiah, Judas told the Roman soldiers where to find Jesus. The Bible predicted the Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah; Jesus was. The Bible said the Messiah would be from the lineage of King David; Jesus was. The Bible predicted the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem; Jesus was. The Bible said The Messiah would NOT have any broken bones; it was customary for crucified individuals to have their bones broken to hasten death, but when they came to Jesus, He was already dead. The Bible said the Messiah would have people gamble for His clothes; the soldiers at the crucifixion gambled for Jesus' cloak. The Bible said the Messiah would bring in a new covenant; Jesus did. His death on the cross, once for all did away with the need for the slaughtering of lambs at the Jewish temple. The Bible said the Messiah would suffer; Jesus was beaten, had his beard ripped out of His face, and was brutally nailed to the cross. The Bible said the Messiah would be a prophet; Jesus predicted the destruction of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. The Bible said the Messiah would come riding on a donkey; Jesus did. The Bible said the Messiah would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver; Judas Iscariot was given 30 pieces of silver for betraying Jesus. The Bible said the Messiah would be a willing sacrifice; Jesus willingly went to the cross, and even predicted His death in Jerusalem. The Bible said the Messiah would be proceeded by a messenger; Jesus was heralded by John the Baptist. The Bible said the Messiah would be descended from Abraham; Jesus was a descendant of Abraham. The Bible said the Messiah would be lifted up; Jesus was lifted up on the cross. The Bible said the Messiah would perform signs of healing; Jesus did. I could go on, but it is already so long you probably won't read it.
@@Mike-qt7jp tl;dr
The Bible is the claim, not the evidence.
@@Mike-qt7jp the bible was invented 40 years after the fact and modified through out history with every new thing that ppl wanted to add in it so it would make control over the dumb slave masses much easier,thus making all predictions not really predictions lol.
this is beside the point that history proved that bible was invented to control the masses of slaves at that time and science proved bible not only isnt accurate to reality,but was written by dumb ppl who didnt even know how the universe around them works at that time.
u're critical thinking and education=0 dude!😒go back to school and pay attention in science classes!!🙄
@@Forest_Fifer"The Bible is right. Source: the Bible"
Ahhh, Almando Calvo. The man who achieved the amazing feat of making even more stupid points than Ray Comfort.
Have you heard how he changed his voice now that he’s in the army? He’s an even bigger douche than before.
No way! That cannot be possible. Stupider than Ray Comfort? Impossible....
😂😂😂😂😂
@@Ooshgaar I also thought it not possible, then low and behold Almondo Calvo opened his mouth and done what was thought impossible, have points stupider than Ray and of course be a plagiarist.
He's Ray and Kirk's bastard baby love child.
When I had a ruptured colon and knew I could die if surgery was not done very soon it never occurred to me to pray or even think of a god. All I thought was - “Pain killers NOW!” “Surgery NOW!”
Hope all is well now
@@dnejebdjejddb Great doctors and quick surgical action saved my life. Minus half my colon now but, doing well. Thanks for your thoughtfulness!
I'm willing to put money down that those studies were 1) funded by religious groups and 2) aren't replicable in broader society.
Here's a challenge: State something that is too crazy for anyone to believe.
Can't do it, can you ?
I can't either.
With the crazy belief bar that low, belief in a magic sky spook seems less crazy that some other beliefs....or maybe not?
@@normkeller2405 What's your point?
@@DavidSmith-vr1nb you really need help with that ? Oh, sarcasm, I missed your point, sorry.
@@DavidSmith-vr1nbyeah I don't get it either. Also, I can state many things that are too crazy to be believed
The atheist emotional response study was done by the Institute of Behavioral Sciences, University of Helsinki and the department of anthropology at Ashford University by measuring skin conductivity. They did get the results the title says.
What is interesting though is that the study itself goes out of its way to say they don't know exactly why the results theu got are what they got and that there may be other variables that play into the results. They then went on to name a couple of variables they believe could be relevant, including previous religious belief, how long they had been atheists, level of atheism, beliefs of friends and family, etc.
They also said that appealing to a God as an atheist could be the reason for the result in and of itself. Essentially, recording cognitive dissonance through skin conductivity.
So it absolutely didn't say atheists believe in God secretly, just that there was an emotional reaction with no explanation.
So 2 Christians and 2 Atheists went for a job at the zoo
The boss says to the Atheists, your job is to feed the Monkeys
The Elephants and the Snakes.
The Christians ask what their job is
The boss says you’re here to feed the Lions.
Sounds more like they where seeking a job at the circus.
Ironically today I watched a creationist video claiming that's how Noah fed the lions on the ark, but with floating dead sinniers. It was also a joke from Sheldon's mom on Big Bang Theory. Who knew it was established scientific fact ?
Thank f*ck I don’t believe in hell anymore, because if it exists I’m definitely going for how hard I laughed at this.
@@aubreyleonae4108 Why not feed them floating adulterous zebra and heretic wildebeest?
@@DoctorZisIN Because theists, in their bloodlust, only think about the corpses of people, forgetting the infinitely more numerous corpses of innocent animals.
Wait, Almondo! Chupacabra does exist. I have a concept of it, so it must exist. You deny its existence, therefore it exists. You are an achupacabrist! It’s coming for you!
you fool it was already there ... almondo is chupacabra in a person suit
Indeed, same with the One-eyed-one-horned-flying-purple-people-eater!
A guy sitting inside with shades on is not someone to pay attention to.
The shades I can tolerate. He's filming and probably has several lights pointed at his face. What is obnoxious though is his wearing a leather jacket while sitting inside in a vain attempt to look cool. (The shades are probably worn for that reason, too, but they at least could be explained away hypothetically.)
usually. unless they are high as fck. altho thats a reason to wear sunglasses. and just wearing shades inside for no reason is indeed a great reason to not pay attention to them😂
Almando: Saying something doesn’t exist means it exists.
Almando: Chupacabras don’t exist.
I would love to grant Almando the title dumbest apologist alive, but there are way too many contenders to chose from.
By his logic (and that of many others who spew the exact same argument), them arguing AGAINST evolution means they know it's real. CHECKMATE ATHETITS ... no ... wait ...
Matt Powell is in the wings.
@@scottdelahunt586 Did he ... evolve them?
Ba dum tssss
It must be quite EMBARRASSING to have Almando on your side!
Theists say stupid things because logic and reason are not on their side. Stupid is all they got.
I mean, they had no chance to begin with.
That's what made it so laughable when the first guy accused atheists of being anti-reason/logic. Classic tactic of painting the opposition as doing the shit you actually do.
to be fair they are being watched by heir glorious leader 24/7 and one wrong word could land them in hot -water- brimstone, they have no choice but to be dishonest.
I do love it when people generalize those with different beliefs. I’ve got no problem with average atheists, but this comment stinks reeeeal bad of reddit atheism
Seriously, believe what you want, but please avoid putting down perfectly good people as you do so
@@Tisbilly Please define perfectly good people in a hateful death cult - read your book, it describes you to a T.
The man with the dark glasses doing a Dr Strangelove impression seems to be arguing that theism must be true because it has more utility than atheism. I thought we had got beyond that years ago.
That was the direction it seemed to be headed to me as well. Despite the fact that it's a dumb argument, I wish he'd at least made a point.
Well, it's apparently _very_ useful _for him_ if a lot of people believe that bullshit, so going with the Jordan Peterson definition of "truth is that which is most useful", for him, that bullshit is definitely true...
Too bad that's not how truth _or_ epistemology work. But he's apparently been making money off this grift, so...
On a _completely_ unrelated note - am I the only one who was instantly reminded of the Mafia underboss Sonny from "Ghost Dog"...?
He's using the argument that governments rationalize using religion for.
"If they believe this they are easy to control"
Governments do not like people being logical and self thinking
I am glad that someone also thought of Dr. Strangelove
@@martinmckee5333 He made a point about the utility of a belief, not about the belief being true.
I used to think that maybe, if my life was on the line, I'd start praying again or something. Until it happened, and I was in the hospital, bleeding and inexplicably unable to clot for a couple of hours, losing quite a bit of blood. I honestly thought that was it. I had two of my loved ones by my side, and that was good enough for me. Oddly enough, I didn't pray or think "what if God is real". I just thought "I'm lucky to have people who love me who are by my side at the end." Now, I did in fact survive, but at the time I was pretty sure that was it for me.
Glad you made it!
glad your still here . 😊
Am I the only one who feels physically ill whenever Tate says anything? And I love how that “Dr” said the kids get indoctrinated. At least he got one thing right
I’m probably the only man who isn’t kissing Andrews ass 😂😂😂
Yep Tate is as toxic as it gets
@@ZackMaddox-gd1zkYou're really, _really_ not...
@@ZackMaddox-gd1zk No, none of the guys I know, myself included, kiss Andrew Taint's ass.
@@ZackMaddox-gd1zk Kissing Andrew Tate's ass🤮🤮🤮
Can I wash it before ? You know, with pure industrial bleach and 90% hydrogen peroxide for a month or two.
Funny. One of the reasons I could never fully believe in Christianity was because deep down inside, I knew it wasn't real.
17:29 it is impossible to make Almondo look any more stupid it should be physically impossible.
How can they be so utterly clueless?
(rhetorical question)
Thanks for the video.
Almando really ought to be a Poe. It's incredible how little self-awareness he has and how arrogant he is despite this. He's so certain he's smart no matter what inanities he's saying. Reminds me of a certain stable genius. But still somehow hard to believe.
covfefe
Not having self awareness is exactly what makes it easy to be arrogant
Glad to see Frank Turek's critical thinking skills are still being kept warm and toasty under Almando's big hat.
He's obviously not using his head for anything important so he might as well.
That and flesh eating head lice.
as long as he has books to sell frank will bark at the carnival.
Elf Dawkins wrote two plagiarized books that no one reads..... except Logicked
@@aubreyleonae4108And those poor, starving brain-sucking aliens..!
They just can't stand the thought of people being out there that do not believe in the existence of an invisible sky wizard or their version of it.
Armando proves that an argument is not evidence.
I wouldn't dignify them by calling them 'arguments'. Each statement he made was just a repetition of a common Christian talking point which he mangled and mis-stated to the point of incomprehensibility
@@condorboss3339exactly what I was going to say
That argument against atheism saying that it only exists because theism exists implies that every other religion ever also exists.
Wow, what a collection of noise. Logick did a great job on Almando, and Taint, ain't worth the time of day. Thanks for the laughs, SkepTick.
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why do theists like to say "Thermodynamics" to make them look and sound smart lol
Like any good pseudo scientist they like good soundings words like energy, Quantum and obviously thermodynamics.
And somehow their god doesn't violate the first law of thermodynamics by poofing stuff into existence, because he's a god. They really love that special pleading.
Most of them have probably never heard the wors, let alone used it
And they think the invisible sky wizard poofed everything into existence using an incantation spell. The very definition of magic🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
That's why a lot of them fall for conspiracies theories. They already believe in the supernatural so if demons are real why not lizard people or Hillary Clinton eating babies in the basement of a pizza shop. Once you believe one nonsensical thing it's easier to believe the next one that comes along.
It wasn't a Sky wizard...Odin farted everything into existence
@@duckarse11It was Zues, and he lit his fart. And science says an asteroid killed the dinosaurs.... lol 😅😅😅
theyget a bit annoyed when i say it's all just voodoo.
God SPOKE the universe into existence. As he is spaceless, timeless and matterless, he had no body, so no mouth, and there was not air that could have made his incantation spell heard.
Quite apart that as God is timeless and unchanging, at what point in non-time change hs mind and decided to create a universe???
A decision means that there is a before and after. Then God is not timeless anymore.
Almondo thinks that since we think there is nothing inside his head that we also think the cosmo also came from Almondo's head...I mean nothing.
Armando's 7th point 3:38 : Carl Linnaeus, who developed the first modern system of classification of species, was a devoted Christian. He did not want to classify humans as apes because his beliefs taught him that humans were separate from other animals. However, his study of comparative anatomy convinced him he had no choice. He was a true scientist in that he did not allow his personal beliefs to outweigh the evidence. He was in no sense an 'evolutionist' in that the idea that species changed over time had not been introduced while he lived.
The guy with the "scientific studies" was definitely the most interesting. Plus he gives us a textbook example of why it's a really bad idea to approach a scientific study with a predetermined conclusion already in mind. Plus, have you ever noticed how if a believer is ever in a situation where their mortal life appears to be in peril, they always pray for God to _spare_ their life instead of hoping that they'll get to go straight to everlasting bliss in heaven? Somehow they always have some compelling reason why it would be a bad idea to escape this earthly realm of suffering and sorrow just yet. Funny that. Almost as if, no matter how firmly you believe in heaven, you know deep down that you have to be physically alive to believe it.
There are so many other potential reasons for the reactions in the study! Were the people afraid they would get punished by their peers or the guards for saying something blasphemous? Do they come from families where that kind of language would be punished and have a learned response to it? Dude doesn't explain what the emotional reactions *were*, so what if they were positive emotions?
Excellent point, I agree!
The South African doctor probably thinks the invisible sky wizard is a Boer.
Certainly the God of the Dutch Reformed Church- the one that, until the collapse of the apartheid regime, taught that Heaven was segregated.
Praise to Lisa the rainbow giraffe leaf be upon her
It’s that’s time… popcorn, British Circle, and dumb shit people say lol 😂
I was an amatrixist even before the film came out. But I must have needed The Matrix to be released to validate my position.
I'm assuming that Almondo failed whatever basic training he was supposed to have been going through since I don't think that he can meet even the explicitly lowered IQ standards of the modern US Military.
Training? You mean how to uses the frie-alator?
@@barth9580More along the lines of how to not piss off everyone around you while they are holding their own fire-alators.
So, they require at least double digits?
Worse than that, I don't think he's even bright enough to get into the Institute for Creation Research.
@@markwood1159 Yes. Even if both digits follow the decimal point.
As someone who participated in a similar study, they do it with word games.
"Why don't you ask god to punish you or annual or your family?"
"Which god?"
"You know god, they one and only godx
"Oh Odin please come down to earth and punish me and my family!"
"No, god, ask god!"
"Which fucking god, mate? Odin? Vishnu? Brahma? YHWH? Zeus? Name the god and i will because u now how words work and "god" is a title not a name."
"See you won't say it, thus you really believe in god!"
"No you absolute Ponce, name the god and I'll do as you asked"
"Nope, you just believe in a god!" *plugs ears, chants, "lalala can't hear you!"
there are websites where floating circles can meet other floating circles?!?
Mermaids don't exist? Well, Mr Calvo: Prove it. Come on son. In your own time...
Almando confirmed a-mermaid.
He secretly believes in mermaids!
You have to believe in mermaids before you can deny their existence! XD
And he just says that because he's angry at mermaids!
8:26
Joke‘s on you, in my country the white bread usually used in toasters IS colloquially called toast 😂
So for everyone wondering: Yes there indeed exists ‚untoasted toasts‘ here.
And do toasters toast toast there? Because I think everyone would know that.
One thing I figured out is that all these theists think of being an atheist as a religious organization. It shows how limited their thinking is that they can't imagine people not belonging to an organization that dictates how they should think.
I loved how Mark Maron described himself as an atheist. It's not that he proactively doesn't believe in God, he just doesn't have the energy to care.
I mean I'm a Christian mainly because I was raised as one and I need to believe in life after death to *not* be in a constant state of existential panic. It's my drug of choice.
About that "submarine that is about to implode" - there is a scene in "Das Boot" where things are _really_ bad, and while everyone else is working hard to fix things, the *_one_* very religious guy is praying - until one of the machinists yells at him to stop praying, because two more hands would be _much_ more useful.
I don't remember whether Buchheim had put something like that in the book (i.e. whether he actually encountered such a moment in his own submarine experiences), or whether they added it for the movie, but considering that a lot of actual WWII submariners watched it and deemed it to be _very_ realistic, especially the crew interactions...
Well, I'd say Ti... sorry, Tate is *_demonstrably_* wrong. As usual.
I think that Almando is confusing Reductio ad Absurdum with Ex Nihilo. To reduce a proposition to absurdity, you first need a proposition. Just as God pulled creation out of nothing, Almando pulls absurdities from the vacancy of his mind.
Ah, that elph dawkings image on the thumbnail never gets old.
It's so damn hard to go out into the wilds and find a real atheists in their natural environment, guys! It's much easier and simpler to imagine one in your own head, and have imaginary discussion with them. This method is clearly superior to talking with a real atheist, because you can't lose a discussion happening in your own head.
16:50 Dude just said that chupacabra, man-bat, and mermaids don't exist. That proves beyond a shadow doubt that he absolutely believes that they exist. After all, why go through the trouble of denying them if he didn't believe in them?
I grew up going to church with my family.....we come from a long line of Methodist Ministers. I don't think i evee believed in a god. Just went to church, taught Sunday School and loved to sing the hymns( which im good at). In my 20s that i thought about it and realised i never did believe. 5 of my 7 brothers also are atheists.
Theist: Do you believe in God?
Me: Which god? There are thousands to choose from.
Alfonzo is fun to laugh at, but as an apologist he's not just low hanging fruit, he is fruit rotting in a ditch.
15:44 I wouldn’t spend any time arguing against a god if theists wouldn’t shove it in my face, almost on a daily basis. Honestly, I don’t even think about the god concept until someone else brings it up.
As a teenager in the small hours (after a lot of beer and maybe some MJ) I out load said 'if god is real then strike me down now'. A while later there was a thunder storm. I moved away from the wood stove. That garnered a few laughs. Guess what? 4 decades later ...im still here.
Yeah, yeah, but what happened to the wood stove?
@@FatWhiskyDrinkingGuy If a thunder hit the wood stove, we can make a device to extract reliabily energy from thunderstorms: go near a lightning rod, blaspheme, and back off, God strikes the place of the blasphemy instead the blasphemer.
I actually just said: "Any gods out there? If you're real, split me in two right now!" So far, nothing has happened. But I'll keep waiting.
The projection is real!!! 🤣
I wonder how theists would react to a parody flipping their own arguments back on them. "Theists know in their hearts that God doesn't exist" etc.
Every single theist knows in their heart there is no god. They just pretend to believe so that they can be forgiven for their sins.
@@justanotheropinion5832
I once saw someone do a parody Chick Tract where they had Cthulhu. "Will you be eaten first?"
10:56 that’s not how we say it happened. It’s a byproduct of other older psychological mechanisms such as aggressive pattern recognition and agent bias.
9:02 I do really appreciate that this dude is reaching for scientific data regardless of how well done the studies were.
The emotional response one isn't that bad despite its small and unrandom sample size. The article was actually 2 studies. The second was a reaction to the results of the first in order to see if they could find an explanation. What's funny is, I'm not sure dude read the study beyond the results. He read none of the discussion or conclusion. at all. They actually point out in the study many of the problems Skeptick did A)they need a bigger sample, B) there are some variables that could account for the effect they are seeing including level of atheism, length of atheism, previous religiosity, religiosity of family and friends, etc.
C)that saying bad shit may make people feel bad. In response to rhe "I wish" statements versus the "God" statements with the "God" statements being worse, the author's point out that the I wish statements weren't as harsh as the god statements so that could be an explanation for why they saw more of a response to the god statements. They both wished bad things, but the level of bad things was worse for the God statements than the Inwish statements.
Finally, they also said that the effect they saw could easily be just from asking an atheist to ask God for something. Essentially: they created cognitive dissonance, and that was what they were measuring.
Pretty much the study said "we are seeing this effect in a very small sample of people, and we don't know why. It needs further study."
Of course Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe exists, Leaf Be Upon Her!
The Document X author fancies himself a Bond villain, I think.
If Andrew Tate actually believed in god he wouldn't do 90% of the things he does.
Have you not met any evangelicals?
It is only because he believes in a god that he does what he does. He has a scapegoat for his personal evils.
People will commit any atrocity if they believe they are carrying out the will of their god.
Why not?
@@SolstaLynn Nah. I think he's just an asshole. But there are some people who are horrible due to their religion. I used to be one of them.
As far as the "dare god to do something terrible to your family" bit. Replicate the experiment daring anything else. Like "the universe." You'd likely have the same result. Because you're imagining something terrible happening to your family.
In that study mentioned in the last clip... so, the way I heard it was that Christians showed little or no hesitation at saying that they wanted bad things to happen to other people?
Yet they somehow twisted that to mean Christians are "good" 😢
As far as Tate's comment about the submarine and the implosion... I find it humorous that people pray in situations facing certain death, and God never comes through to save them any more than Lisa comes through for anyone.
I was thinking "How does he know?" He wasn't on the submarine, was he?
@@Angel-nl1hp He's a theist. He imagined that, and because he was the one imagining it, it was real and a fact.
Is it just me or did we see verifiable proof that Peter Sellers resurrected in order to reprise his role as Dr. Strangelove and writes Document X ?
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The idea of "suppressing the truth" assumes that the idea of a subconscious mind existed in the time of the New Testament, which it did not. The original Greek text, as well as early English translations, reflect this fact- they say things like "hold" in place of the Greek katexein, which means "hold back" (i.e. from other people). And when "suppress" IS used, it is in the same sense as "suppressing dissent".
Apologetics often focus solely on secular cosmology & biology because if things ever go into the theist side of the argument they end up having to defend nonsense like thaumaturgy and vague metaphors and allegories that themselves don't have any consistent definition in the way scientific ideas do
They were all crazy, but the ‘doctor’ was the scariest, craziest mfer
Armando took so many takes of this while holding his dumbphone that it wrinkled the heck out of the left side of his shirt. Maybe there is an ironing board on the other side of that door he almost went through 86 times, or perhaps it's where he keeps the straw for his arguments.
“Theists claim a god belief because they hate their lives and have their fingers crossed they’ll have a better one in an afterlife they can’t prove.” How’s that feel, theists?
Wait, wait,wait....people have a psychological predisposition to assign agency to random things?!?! Shocker!!!
Lady Luck is a nice tune from 1920/1930. Fox-trot anyone? It's on Broadcast Twelve label for one..
How to get any theist to say really dumb things: ask them what they believe and why.
Before the start of this video, the mandatory ad was for a ministry (no really). After I hit skip I thought, "That had to be sent by Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe".
6:15 This is either the most poorly constructed experiment ever, or purposely designed to come to a desired conclusion. A proper study would at least have theists, deconverted theists (now atheists) and atheists from birth to rule out childhood indoctrination. As well, when asking questions about god, or asking people to say things with respect to a god it should be done with several different gods (eg, Odin, Zeus). I think that experiment would yield vastly different results.
Not to mention the size of the study population: you need a LOT more than 16 subjects to hope to come to useful conclusions about a population.
@@johndemeritt3460 Yeah, that too! I really want to track down that study to get a better look at who conducted it and what the methodology was. I'm also betting this didn't make it into a proper scientific journal.
Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe does not exist. Now excuse me, but I have to rake out the leaf pile that suddenly appeared in my living room. And it looks... angry? Can leaves be angry?
No one in any circumstances going to DARE any God to hurt their family not because they believe in that God but because it's our duty to protect the ones we love and not even in a total fictional way would we view such nonsense
Besides which, it's very likely that the questioner is looking for a chance to bring about God's Will™ by directly harming the respondent's family.
Awesome video!
9:40 - Wearing dark glasses indoors already tells me all I need to know about this person, I am also a South African and I assure you that the sun is really not that bright that I need to wear dark glasses inside my house.
Logicked really tore Almondo a new one!
14:04 Almando has _literally_ said that being atheist means a theist. "They are a theist!"
Filming in black and white, wearing a black turtleneck and talking shit in a " forceful " monotone makes it so. Thanks Almondo!
Isn’t the Tater Tot following another brand of sky wizard, being a Muslim and all?
Tomato, banana..
And does he not realize that Islam where it is dominant has an iron grip on the government, and the citizens of those countries are forced to participate in Islam under literal threat of death.
Thanks!
I came back especially for Almondooo. Can't forgive him for calling me a 'bag of cells' ones. 😂😂😂😂
Armando is going to put Burning Man to shame with the size of that straw man he’s making.
Almando even says "exist" instead of "exists", damn
Almando is wrong about atheists creating Lady Luck. Theists in ancient Rome created La Fortuna. She had earlier been known as Tyche by the ancient Greeks. When will this guy read a book other than the bible?
6:25 wasn't that in Forrest Gump, when Lieutenant Dan dared a god during the big storm?
9:41 yup leaf be upon her
Yes they are supremely arrogant and also believe that they are mind readers and of course they keep repeating over and over again some version of Romans 1:20.
I have the concept that Almondo is 47 1/2 weasels in an elaborate costume.... therefore it's true
I can't accept that. Even a single weasel is a more competent interlocutor than Almondo.
@@martinmckee5333 As is said, individuals are smart, but (large) groups are dumb. Maybe that doesn't just apply to humans, but also to ferrets...?
@@Wolf-ln1ml That's absolutely a fair point. How do I know that group psychology doesn't affect weasels in a similar manner to people?
17:08 the evidence of a god is soooo strong that no one, ever, will present it. They talk about it, but never present it.
Didn't people evolve with a bias for attributing agency to things for survival? Doesn't that better explain the second and third study the second guy brought up better than "we all secretly believe"?
At least Lisa, the rainbow giraffe, has defined parameters. God, on the other hand, has variable parameters. Even the bible contradicts itself on the subject, by stating: “… I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” - Genesis 32:30 “No man hath seen God at any time…”- John 1:18. “… with God all things are possible.” - Matthew 19:26 “…The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.” - Judges 1:19
I didn't think anything said was stupid.
It didn't even reach the level of stupid.
It was pretty much just incoherent.
This guy is a good example of the "religion makes stupid" argument...
Hmmmm... *WHICH* guy?
There weren't any non-guys in the video, well except for the giraffe....
@@johncoops6897 "Hmmmm... WHICH guy?"
*Yes.*
@@EdwardHowton - you also include the RUclips Channel guy in that stoopid response?
All hail Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe, leaf be upon her.
Omnipotent omnipotent omnipotent…. “you keep saying that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means”
It's the parade of Dunning Kruger mixed with constant strawmanning of Atheism! I literally have NEVER seen a creationist actually argue against real Atheism.
if almondo did actually join the army i hope he has a job not actually requiring a functioning brain. Knowing him hopefully the Chaplin core or something
I don't know... people go to chaplins for comfort. I wouldn't want to see that "comforter" be Almondo, even if I think chaplins are - in reality - unnecessary.
If Almondo had a mirror instead of a camera ...
I don't think any of these people has ever met an atheist face-to-face; all they know is what their religious organization tells them atheists believe.
I've never seen so many words used to say nothing.