This particular god is forgetful... "What did you do to my tree?!" Forgot that he left two infants unsupervised in his garden. "What did you do to my world?!?!?! Flooooooood." Forgot that he made the world and the people in it that way. "What did you do to my people!" Forgot that he made egyptians that would conquer and enslave israel. "What did you do to my son?!?!?!?!" Forgot that he purposely designed an entire system of redemption that hinged on the death of his son.
I'm not saying Troy gives me some serious bad vibes, but for some reason I think the two words Troy "hears" from the "holy spirit" are "negging works".
I’ll never understand how apologists can spend their entire lives producing, processing, and practicing their script, and still be so bad they need a literally captive audience.
Seems like everybody and his brother is claiming to be a prophet of god. Must be some place where I can get my prophecy manual and my god secret decoder ring.
@@cliftongaither6642 Indeed Thousands of man made gods, Fun fact one of our local churches which is 12th century turns out the alter was pinched from the Roman fort and is an alter to a Celtic goddess, So for 900 years Christians have been worshiping her 🤣
This kid sure paid attention in preaching class, and has been practicing in front of his mirror for weeks. Things like this are like journeyman projects, demonstrating his skill in the craft. And it's so oily I could fry hash browns in it.
You ain't joking. Edward Tarte used to make videos talking about his time in seminary and in one of them he specifically said future parasites are taught to steer their victims away from asking questions and towards vapid platitudes in the bible. I think the exchange went something like "What if someone asks me about this or that contradiction?" and Tarte was basically told to tell the idiots to stop reading that bit, trust god, and just read something that'd make them feel warm and fuzzy instead. Tell'em what they want to hear and make sure they never think about anything. That's Troy all over. It's theological pablum.
Looked up the word ‘prophecy’ in the dictionary and found the entry: 4. (n) The act of having a dream or lucid dream and then making a slightly boring RUclips video about it. Touché, atheists!!!
Nice. Actually, you can see in Troy's face a bit of hesitation when he makes some of these "prophecies", because he is actually saying that it's totally fine to either celebrate Xmas or not because the only thing that matters is what's in your heart. That is some borderline sacrilege right there in the eyes of some Christians.
Actually that was a pretty good prophecy. It sounded like it meant something while being so vague that nothing can be pinned down. That gives it the added advantage of being able to be worked into some event or experience, whether large or small, in the future. It can be a major news event, or some minor personal thing someone comes to him with. No prob. Look at my prophecy. It came true. Hallelujah.
There is, one of the apocryphals, that tells a story of a young Jesus. He was an evil little pile. He actually killed people. He brought them back to life but still he killed people he disliked. Jesus was that kid played by Billy Mumy in the Twilight Zorne.
And behold, the spirit of the Lord came upon me, and the voice of the Lord spake unto me, and after a series of vocabulary lessons, weird Bible verses, and vague platitudes about inclusion, I pleaded with great torment of heart, "Dear God, why are you wasting both of our time with this drivel?"
I like how they claim that Jesus never did anything wrong yet the buybull says that jesus was flipping tables in the temple which would of been a crime.
Not to mention being scornful of a guy who wanted healing (changed in certain translations) and cursing a fig tree for...not bearing fruit out of season? Plus there are Non-Canonical Gospels about Jesus as a child shows him pissing off teachers, killing his playmates (but it's okay because he brought them back) and just being an arrogant little shit.
I do actually know someone whose heart was in the wrong place. He required immediate surgery at birth to properly connect it into his circulatory system. He's about eight or nine now, and thriving. It's amazing what science and medicine can do.
I asked and received a biography of Scottish enlightenment philosopher and atheist David Hume for christmas. Gotta love atheists celebrating christmas!
I asked a Christian once about the fig tree thing and he informed me that it was an allegory about Israel being cursed by god (I forget the rest). You can’t win a logical argument against these people because they’ll twist the Bible to avoid any discrepancies.
As a mostly-incognito ex-vangelical, I did want to point out that "Prophetic Ministry" is an important aspect of charismatic worship, and places less emphasis on prophecy as prediction, and much, much more emphasis on the idea that everyone is capable of receiving direct messages from God during prayer and worship- it's a kind of Protestant Mysticism rather than Nostradamus. Great content in any case, happy tickmas!
I'm just so worried that a man can say all this with such a straight face. He appears genuine and sincere. He KNOWS he did not hear any of this, but there he sits lying his arse off.
The crazy thing is that when you spend hours and hours in your own mind trying to speak to God like Troy does, you learn to interpret every thought, feeling and sensation you have as God talking back. Eventually you can mash some verses together and compose a sermon about witchcraft and HONESTLY BELIEVE it’s a Word From God™️ when that’s just how thoughts work.
And about his "manipulating God" thing, wasn't there literally passages where prayers to God were declared as being so powerful that, if you were a True Christian (TM), you could command a mountain to go jump into the sea ? Isn't that the same sorta thing he's complaining about ?
"Traditions turn into witchcraft when their purpose is to manipulate Me into doing something." Like baptism, alter calls, confession, those traditions that have magical purposes?
For a moment there, I thought he was talking about letting in the poor, the hungry and the refugees but, no, he closed down that door pretty damned quickly.
I can think of two words I'd say to Troy, the second one would be "off"😉 Troy sounds a bit crazy, I wonder if he's off his meds again. Happy Christmas to all and may Santa bring you all you desire.
I truly wish these God talkers will realize how utterly preposterous they come across to those not indoctrinated in their belief system. Great work Skeptik
Also is anyone going to stop him and ask "DID the two people stealing stuff mean they DESERVED an agonising death by slow torture ?" Cause I don't remember hearing any details about either that really would come close to making them deserve the death penalty, much less a cruel and slow death. And the fact the person he claims was the most perfect and flawless person imaginable STILL got the same treatment at least implies it was likely you would have people crucified who objectively did not deserve it. Soooooooo........
They also (apparently) freed a murderer on Passover in favour of Jesus so their justice system left a lot to be desired, thank Lisa the rainbow giraffe it’s all fictional 👍
This is actually one of those story detail problems. Roman law was pretty clear on who suffers crucifixion as a punishment. Thieves didn't qualify. The Romans could be brutal, and did have capital punishment. But the form of punishment varied depending on the crime. For the most part, thieves were simply fined or imprisoned or punished in other ways. Crucifixion was generally a form of public terrorism and was most often the result of political charges. So....no. They didn't deserve that form of death for stealing stuff. Wouldn't have happened.
@@Kevin_Williamson In that regard, one has to wonder if they would have deserved their punishment if they were crucified for the reasons Romans generally crucified people then.
The solution is that the whole thing was made up. David Fitzgerald explains that the whole trial narrative is made up by people who didn’t know how justice worked in Jerusalem at the time.
@@WeirdWonderful -- personally, I think not. That sort of slow, painful death seems unwarranted in any case. Even for the reasons it was employed (such as sedition or revolt). But the Romans were a very cruel society. Not an excuse. Just the background of the culture at the time. Pretty much all societies at that time were brutal. Another form of capital punishent they used was death by animal. Various aninamls were allowed to kill and eat the convicted prisoner. Either by tying the person up and letting the animals go or allowing the person to fight for a bit of public spectacle before finally being eaten. Also rather excessive and unwarranted, in my view.
At 9:19 I thought I was back in the Mormon Church as things Christians are supposed to do. At 16:04 and 16:21 he equates angels with myths, and at 16:49 he says Satan is fine with us worshiping angels. Wasn't it an angel that told Mary that she had been screwed (hmm, got pregnant) by the Holy Ghost?
Speaking of hearing two words at the same time, everyone should listen to the audiobook version of Embassytown by China Mieville. Some really great sci-fi with a linguistics heartbeat.
I couldn't finish the codex version of that book. And I'm a big admirer of China Mieville. I think it's because I couldn't really engage with the central character. But if you're interested in language as a component of SF, I'd recommend Jack Vance's 'Random Acts Of Senseless Violence'.
@@richardfurness7556 In the audio version, their translators, like Cal/Vin, have their name spoken simultaneously. It's delightful. I can see having that issue with the work. I think it worked in its favor, further alienating the reader in an already alien environment, but my opinion is by no means the be-all end-all! Thanks for the rec, I'll have to see if my library has a copy.
his words about opening the door, did have a profound affect on me... Went off and watched "Tommy" "Come to my house, be one of the wonderful people" and "Come to my house, be one of us"
Notice how he says that i"it's between you and god" and "as long as your heart is in the right place". Put in different words: "nobody is going to know" and "yu can decide for yourself" Relgion is a fascinating case of snakeoil; they tell you you have a problem, they sell you a solution and you (and you alone) get to decide wether it worked. Oh and if you say it didn't work then your loving religious community will cast you out for being a heretic.
Why does God only speak to people who already believe in him and never to an atheist ? It would scare the sh%& out of me for sure if God started talking to me.
Woah... Tick, you missed that clairvoyant calling, my friend. I mean, tbf it was Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe, Leaf be Upon Her whispering those words to you, but you clearly have a connection. How else could anyone explain that your very specific and accurate prediction came true?! Checkmate!
@@TheSkepTick I know! That interview you did with that chap... I can't remember his name now, I'm so bad with names. That gave me a lot of insight into where you're coming from. Plus it's always interesting for me to hear how some of the most clearly intelligent, caring, and rational people went through their deconstruction. Sounded like you kind of just grew out of it, and the external validation wasn't of high enough importance to pull you back in. Anyway, that Interview did a lot to humanize the floating orb I've come to enjoy listening to so much, so I hope you don't mind my mentioning it.
"Do you spend your time worshipping your savoir...know wot I mean, eh, eh, say no more...your friends do they worship their savior too...know wot I mean eh, nudge, nudge..." 😁😁😁😏😏😁
"I hope you can hear this through a lens..." That's not how hearing, or lenses, work. That's some mighty fine synesthesia you've got there. Maybe ease back on the drugs just a scooch.
I think he's a whackadoodle who believes his own imaginary bullshit like Kat Kerr and so many many many many many many many other absolutely stupid sheeple around the globe
@@dj_tika I always prefer to think these theists are total nutters but I’m not so sure. I think it’s more likely they are cold, calculating, zero shame grifters. 😉
@shifterbbr1986 if not directly on some level of their fractured self awareness no doubt, a deep rational lsd induced dive into themselves to see who they really are would be a gratifying thing to watch
I kinda read what he was saying as "just because it's tradition doesn't necessarily mean it's good" which is a weird thing for a pastor of any kind to preach, so maybe I'm just coloring his vague assertions with my own perceptions?
Even if I was a believer, I would think the vision about the river means, "stop polluting my rivers" and not some vague metaphor about traditions vs faith.
Assuming for a second that his god did talk to him, that message sounded more like an order to let immigrants in. Funny how he didn’t take it that way.
It would seem more plausible if the "Lord" had sent this guy an verifiable email, which said, "share my email address with everyone" . surely god knew about the invention of the internet, and snagged a great email address and web site really early.
Bearing false witness but I'll be honest I can't remember exactly what the Bible even says about it exactly or the connotation but if I recall correctly it's not just generalized lying it's talking more about stuff like slander
I believe he said he heard from the holy spirit. Which explains his confusion. Hey my phone accurately prophesied what I was going to type. There is your Christmas prophesy. No you can't have my phone.
@@borttorbbq2556 Proverbs 6:16-19 - For there are six things the Lord hates-no, seven: haughtiness, lying, murdering, plotting evil, eagerness to do wrong, a false witness, sowing discord among brothers. This uses the Hebrew term "lashon sheker" which is for regular lying. There are others, but this one is a favorite to use against people like Ray Comfort.
@@TheSkepTick The whole religious holier-than-thou crowd is full of lying hypocrites spurring on tribalism and hate for "others" who they malign and blame for everything bad. Perhaps the 2 words were along the lines of "fornicate off"… 🤔
"If your heart's in the wrong place... you'd probably just die" Not necessarily, heterotaxy syndrome has your organs jumbled, but they still function. It can certainly have life threatening complications, but that's not guaranteed. And sinus inversus is where all of your organs are in the mirrored position of where they usually are, but that one is usually harmless. I guess you could be thinking wrong place for you. Like it was sitting in the left side of your chest, but now somehow it's in your right leg. That would likely be universally fatal.
I prefer to celebrate the Winter Solstice. Not the weird new age Wiccan or pagan kind but the non religious kind were we all mark the longest night look forward to the return of warm weather and long days and enjoy one another's company before settling into the winter drudgery, cold weather, getting up when it's still dark, getting home when it's dark ,wet shoes.🌞🕶
I think he confused "prophecying" with "proselytizing". It shouldn't be surprising though, given the education standards he was likely told were above all others.
Sorry, Skeppy, but in "Christianese" the word prophecy doesn't always mean predicting the future. Any "word" from the god can be characterized as "prophetic". I didn't say this makes sense, it's just how their language works. And, yes, this video was all just Christianese word salad.
A prophecy is supposed to tell of things in the future. I don't see any difference between a prophecy and a prediction. I don't speak Christianese, but I do translate BS. 😁
So god wanted us to get this message so bad he needed a random person to deliver it? Wouldn't it be easier for him to just show up and tell us himself?
I tried to get away from religion but the promise of god talking in my head keeps drawing me in. The lord speaks right in this guys head! If I had another voice in my head I could figure stuff out quickly, maybe even be twice as good at math…sometimes you just need some one there to bounce things off, don’t have to pick up a phone and all that
Funny how God only told this guy something completely typical that he already believed/read in the Bible, instead of something completely new and novel that he wasn't already thinking
Happy whatever, Skeppy! I was going to send you a Super Thanks, but something is going on with my account. I contacted Google, but got no reply. They say my password is wrong, but I know it by heart. Anyway, enjoy your holidays and can't wait for more vids in the New Year! Cheers 🍻
That person on the cross next to Jesus was making a last minute Pascal's Wager.
Yes, and he's watching Pascal now endlessly tearing up his betting slip.🤣
10 years, 10 hours, 10 picoseconds all same-same.
"What did you do with my son?"
"You're God why don't you already know this?"
Sounds like God and Jeffery from darkmatter2525
This particular god is forgetful...
"What did you do to my tree?!"
Forgot that he left two infants unsupervised in his garden.
"What did you do to my world?!?!?! Flooooooood."
Forgot that he made the world and the people in it that way.
"What did you do to my people!"
Forgot that he made egyptians that would conquer and enslave israel.
"What did you do to my son?!?!?!?!"
Forgot that he purposely designed an entire system of redemption that hinged on the death of his son.
Is " God" suffering from dementia?
Funny how "the holy spirit" sounds like any old random sermon you might hear from the pulpit of almost any church.
For god saying 2 words to him, he sure waffled on for ages!
I'm not saying Troy gives me some serious bad vibes, but for some reason I think the two words Troy "hears" from the "holy spirit" are "negging works".
Well, he couldn't just repeat the words. Then the video would be : Hi, i'm Troy Black. God told me : 'Fuck Off'.....
Gods words needs some context only they can give.
Right
In Christianese “word” just means “a religious concept or point”.
“Pastor had such a good word this week” just means they liked the sermon.
I’ll never understand how apologists can spend their entire lives producing, processing, and practicing their script, and still be so bad they need a literally captive audience.
Because all that research never includes listening to an atheist. Their knowledge of our objections comes from other opologists
@@acfkelly6291 You’re right, but I was talking about the quality of their humor and acting.
The only door he needs leading to is the one connected to The Rubber room .
Even when I was a Christian I would call BS on this dude
Saw a guy at the horse barn today, talking to the horses. He was going to feed them, because "Nobody comes to the fodder without me."
Boo 😂 bad. 🤪
Majestic
That was a heavenly dad joke.
Dad joke power 💯
The dad jokes are strong with this one...
Yog-Sothoth knows the door. Yog-Sothoth is the door. Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the door.
God sure does talk to a lot of people that have RUclips channels.
Well there are hundreds of gods 🤣
RUclips has become the breeding ground of False Prophets!
Seems like everybody and his brother is claiming to be a prophet of god. Must be some place where I can get my prophecy manual and my god secret decoder ring.
@@dogwalker666thousands of gods.
@@cliftongaither6642 Indeed Thousands of man made gods, Fun fact one of our local churches which is 12th century turns out the alter was pinched from the Roman fort and is an alter to a Celtic goddess, So for 900 years Christians have been worshiping her 🤣
This kid sure paid attention in preaching class, and has been practicing in front of his mirror for weeks. Things like this are like journeyman projects, demonstrating his skill in the craft. And it's so oily I could fry hash browns in it.
You ain't joking. Edward Tarte used to make videos talking about his time in seminary and in one of them he specifically said future parasites are taught to steer their victims away from asking questions and towards vapid platitudes in the bible. I think the exchange went something like "What if someone asks me about this or that contradiction?" and Tarte was basically told to tell the idiots to stop reading that bit, trust god, and just read something that'd make them feel warm and fuzzy instead.
Tell'em what they want to hear and make sure they never think about anything. That's Troy all over. It's theological pablum.
Looked up the word ‘prophecy’ in the dictionary and found the entry:
4. (n) The act of having a dream or lucid dream and then making a slightly boring RUclips video about it.
Touché, atheists!!!
Nice. Actually, you can see in Troy's face a bit of hesitation when he makes some of these "prophecies", because he is actually saying that it's totally fine to either celebrate Xmas or not because the only thing that matters is what's in your heart. That is some borderline sacrilege right there in the eyes of some Christians.
Actually that was a pretty good prophecy. It sounded like it meant something while being so vague that nothing can be pinned down. That gives it the added advantage of being able to be worked into some event or experience, whether large or small, in the future. It can be a major news event, or some minor personal thing someone comes to him with. No prob. Look at my prophecy. It came true. Hallelujah.
New witch socks for Christmas … prophecy fulfilled
Hmm, that's actually a good point. Take notes, all you self-proclaimed televangelist prophets.
Biblical prophesies that were fulfilled were written AFTER the fact, while pretending to be written earlier than they actually were.
@@kellydalstok8900 Or turned into prophecy where when read in context wasn't a prophecy to begin with.
New iPhone, fingers crossed! 🥳
"What did you do with my son?"
Like, totally nailed him.
Wait didn't you as god let this happen to yourself as Jesus knowing what would happen so you can make people love you more?...dude that messed up lol
@@redfoxninja3173 if you think about it jesus had one fucked up weekend. Died on a Friday just just to come back Sunday evening ressurected
Ha haha lol 😂😆 OMG
@@ilikebigbooties7175 And it was Easter Sunday, no less.
God: "I bet they'd be sorry if I was dead"
..fakes suicide
I just heard Lisa say: "Hit that like button!" So I did. Beat that god of Troy.
There is, one of the apocryphals, that tells a story of a young Jesus. He was an evil little pile. He actually killed people. He brought them back to life but still he killed people he disliked. Jesus was that kid played by Billy Mumy in the Twilight Zorne.
Didn’t dad Joseph yell at him for blinding a guy because he argued with dad or something?
The "infancy gospel of Thomas", I believe.
"'What did you do with my son?' said just like that would be an epic opening to a two-hour thriller."
Presumably starring Liam Neeson.
"I will find you! I will kill you"
"I have a certain set of skills, skills that make me a nightmare for people like you"
"Oh my giraffe,you're a presuppositional apologist!"
And behold, the spirit of the Lord came upon me, and the voice of the Lord spake unto me, and after a series of vocabulary lessons, weird Bible verses, and vague platitudes about inclusion, I pleaded with great torment of heart, "Dear God, why are you wasting both of our time with this drivel?"
This dude is like the CinemaSins of atheism
I like how they claim that Jesus never did anything wrong yet the buybull says that jesus was flipping tables in the temple which would of been a crime.
Not to mention being scornful of a guy who wanted healing (changed in certain translations) and cursing a fig tree for...not bearing fruit out of season?
Plus there are Non-Canonical Gospels about Jesus as a child shows him pissing off teachers, killing his playmates (but it's okay because he brought them back) and just being an arrogant little shit.
Dude was also kinda racist.
Vandalism, at the least.
I do actually know someone whose heart was in the wrong place. He required immediate surgery at birth to properly connect it into his circulatory system.
He's about eight or nine now, and thriving.
It's amazing what science and medicine can do.
I asked and received a biography of Scottish enlightenment philosopher and atheist David Hume for christmas. Gotta love atheists celebrating christmas!
That sounds like a book I’d like
Did I miss the two words? I watched the whole thing.
Indeed, he appears to be unable to count.
Wow. Just wow. Word salad is an understatement!
Word smoothie.
Word supermarket.
He never did anything wrong, like that time he cursed a fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season eh ?
Well, he did kill that other boy when he was young, but he brought him back.
I asked a Christian once about the fig tree thing and he informed me that it was an allegory about Israel being cursed by god (I forget the rest).
You can’t win a logical argument against these people because they’ll twist the Bible to avoid any discrepancies.
Happy !!!
As a mostly-incognito ex-vangelical, I did want to point out that "Prophetic Ministry" is an important aspect of charismatic worship, and places less emphasis on prophecy as prediction, and much, much more emphasis on the idea that everyone is capable of receiving direct messages from God during prayer and worship- it's a kind of Protestant Mysticism rather than Nostradamus.
Great content in any case, happy tickmas!
Happy Yule and festivus
So extra delusional
@@Bostonceltics1369 Festivus? For the rest of us?
@@joehemmann1156 correct.
13:37 He had to check "God's" script 🤣🤣
God wrote in and said ‘I can’t do this message myself… I’m not powerful enough’
😅
@@TheSkepTick oh shit, the Creator (🤣) responded to my comment! I HAVE to sub now ❤️
@@thejudgmentalcat Lisa bestows leaves upon you
I consulted the AccuWeather oracle. My prophecy was delivered as as such: sunrise will occur at 07:28 Central Standard Time on 25 December 2022.
AccuWeather be praised! 😆
The amount of times I’ve promoted AccuWeather to my friends is insane!
I'm just so worried that a man can say all this with such a straight face. He appears genuine and sincere.
He KNOWS he did not hear any of this, but there he sits lying his arse off.
The crazy thing is that when you spend hours and hours in your own mind trying to speak to God like Troy does, you learn to interpret every thought, feeling and sensation you have as God talking back. Eventually you can mash some verses together and compose a sermon about witchcraft and HONESTLY BELIEVE it’s a Word From God™️ when that’s just how thoughts work.
He was probably indoctrinated from birth and is now actively reinforcing it himself, as well as raising his own kids to do the same
And about his "manipulating God" thing, wasn't there literally passages where prayers to God were declared as being so powerful that, if you were a True Christian (TM), you could command a mountain to go jump into the sea ?
Isn't that the same sorta thing he's complaining about ?
I went to the grocery store and couldn't find any Crisco. The manager went to the back storage area to find some...so, I am now waiting on The Lard.
Once you get it, make sure to spread the word.
Behold, I tell you the truth - this generation will not pass away before the lard returns.
I am guessing "Crisco" is a brand of lard?
Don't feel bad Tick, this guy low key confirmed that Monty Python was right, and that Brian was near Jesus when they were crucified
"Traditions turn into witchcraft when their purpose is to manipulate Me into doing something."
Like baptism, alter calls, confession, those traditions that have magical purposes?
Christmas = Christforce/Christacceleration
I'm so mad I couldn't think of a joke this funny😂
"You know what that's called, Troy? Remembering."
🔥
As one of our former German Chancellors - Helmut Schmidt - used to say: "People who have visions should go see a doctor".
For a moment there, I thought he was talking about letting in the poor, the hungry and the refugees but, no, he closed down that door pretty damned quickly.
OMG one of my candy canes broke! The man is a true prophet of the lawd! Praise Jeezus!
I can think of two words I'd say to Troy, the second one would be "off"😉
Troy sounds a bit crazy, I wonder if he's off his meds again.
Happy Christmas to all and may Santa bring you all you desire.
The constant refrain of "listen to me", "right?", etc. suggests that he's trying to convince himself that he's right.
Towards your new phone! Thanks for your work!
I truly wish these God talkers will realize how utterly preposterous they come across to those not indoctrinated in their belief system. Great work Skeptik
I cried thought this... oh wait no i dident it was just my eye being dry for being in front of a screen all day.
I keep hearing God speak to me and he only says two words red rum. You aren't the only person with a imaginary friend
Wtf? This guy is essentially rambling on about a dream he had last night.
Thanks! Sounds like he just saw the trailer for the movie "Jesus Revolution." His revelation is very similar to the movie plot.
Thanks! Hope you had a great xmas and got your new phone.
It’s dangerous, REALLY DANGEROUS, to have an epistemology that allows you to conflate your thoughts with the desires of an all powerful being.
Also is anyone going to stop him and ask "DID the two people stealing stuff mean they DESERVED an agonising death by slow torture ?"
Cause I don't remember hearing any details about either that really would come close to making them deserve the death penalty, much less a cruel and slow death. And the fact the person he claims was the most perfect and flawless person imaginable STILL got the same treatment at least implies it was likely you would have people crucified who objectively did not deserve it.
Soooooooo........
They also (apparently) freed a murderer on Passover in favour of Jesus so their justice system left a lot to be desired, thank Lisa the rainbow giraffe it’s all fictional 👍
This is actually one of those story detail problems. Roman law was pretty clear on who suffers crucifixion as a punishment. Thieves didn't qualify. The Romans could be brutal, and did have capital punishment. But the form of punishment varied depending on the crime. For the most part, thieves were simply fined or imprisoned or punished in other ways. Crucifixion was generally a form of public terrorism and was most often the result of political charges. So....no. They didn't deserve that form of death for stealing stuff. Wouldn't have happened.
@@Kevin_Williamson In that regard, one has to wonder if they would have deserved their punishment if they were crucified for the reasons Romans generally crucified people then.
The solution is that the whole thing was made up. David Fitzgerald explains that the whole trial narrative is made up by people who didn’t know how justice worked in Jerusalem at the time.
@@WeirdWonderful -- personally, I think not. That sort of slow, painful death seems unwarranted in any case. Even for the reasons it was employed (such as sedition or revolt). But the Romans were a very cruel society. Not an excuse. Just the background of the culture at the time. Pretty much all societies at that time were brutal.
Another form of capital punishent they used was death by animal. Various aninamls were allowed to kill and eat the convicted prisoner. Either by tying the person up and letting the animals go or allowing the person to fight for a bit of public spectacle before finally being eaten.
Also rather excessive and unwarranted, in my view.
He said that Santa Claus was a fictional character... But can he prove it? No he can't :)
At 9:19 I thought I was back in the Mormon Church as things Christians are supposed to do. At 16:04 and 16:21 he equates angels with myths, and at 16:49 he says Satan is fine with us worshiping angels. Wasn't it an angel that told Mary that she had been screwed (hmm, got pregnant) by the Holy Ghost?
Thanks!
Speaking of hearing two words at the same time, everyone should listen to the audiobook version of Embassytown by China Mieville. Some really great sci-fi with a linguistics heartbeat.
I couldn't finish the codex version of that book. And I'm a big admirer of China Mieville. I think it's because I couldn't really engage with the central character. But if you're interested in language as a component of SF, I'd recommend Jack Vance's 'Random Acts Of Senseless Violence'.
@@richardfurness7556 In the audio version, their translators, like Cal/Vin, have their name spoken simultaneously. It's delightful. I can see having that issue with the work. I think it worked in its favor, further alienating the reader in an already alien environment, but my opinion is by no means the be-all end-all! Thanks for the rec, I'll have to see if my library has a copy.
his words about opening the door, did have a profound affect on me...
Went off and watched "Tommy"
"Come to my house, be one of the wonderful people" and "Come to my house, be one of us"
To sum up Troy's prophecy: It's damned if you do, damned if you don't.
This Christian spewed out such total rubbish and gibberish. I'm so glad I'm an atheist.
Notice how he says that i"it's between you and god" and "as long as your heart is in the right place".
Put in different words: "nobody is going to know" and "yu can decide for yourself"
Relgion is a fascinating case of snakeoil; they tell you you have a problem, they sell you a solution and you (and you alone) get to decide wether it worked. Oh and if you say it didn't work then your loving religious community will cast you out for being a heretic.
I didn't know encouragement was a judgmental word, mind blown.
I am not commenting on this video. I don't want to boost you in the Al Gore Rhythmz. True story bro
A vice president who can dance, Al Gore Rhythm
@@AnnoyingNewslettersPage6 didn't he also invent the internet?
Troy taking the long way to complain that "Christmas is too commercial" is what I got from his video.
If this guy was receiving visions of a sewage pipe, it was more likely representative of the crap coming out of his own mouth.
Why does God only speak to people who already believe in him and never to an atheist ? It would scare the sh%& out of me for sure if God started talking to me.
He was on his knees you know "worshipping" his saviour.
"You know what that's called? Remembering!" Lmao
He said " hey, I can see my house from here"
Father Time and Santa went through all that trouble to send him a message and he doesn't have the decency to give them proper credit?!?
Woah... Tick, you missed that clairvoyant calling, my friend. I mean, tbf it was Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe, Leaf be Upon Her whispering those words to you, but you clearly have a connection. How else could anyone explain that your very specific and accurate prediction came true?! Checkmate!
Haha. Right? I actually did grow up in a spiritualist household!
@@TheSkepTick I know! That interview you did with that chap... I can't remember his name now, I'm so bad with names. That gave me a lot of insight into where you're coming from. Plus it's always interesting for me to hear how some of the most clearly intelligent, caring, and rational people went through their deconstruction. Sounded like you kind of just grew out of it, and the external validation wasn't of high enough importance to pull you back in. Anyway, that Interview did a lot to humanize the floating orb I've come to enjoy listening to so much, so I hope you don't mind my mentioning it.
The one thing I hate most about Christianity is the constant, "You're not worthy, we're not worthy, etc." Talk about yourself hate.
"Do you spend your time worshipping your savoir...know wot I mean, eh, eh, say no more...your friends do they worship their savior too...know wot I mean eh, nudge, nudge..." 😁😁😁😏😏😁
"I hope you can hear this through a lens..." That's not how hearing, or lenses, work. That's some mighty fine synesthesia you've got there. Maybe ease back on the drugs just a scooch.
You mean I can’t use a magnifying glass to amplify my voice? 🤔
We know he’s a liar and he knows he’s a liar, bottom line. 🤔
I think he's a whackadoodle who believes his own imaginary bullshit like Kat Kerr and so many many many many many many many other absolutely stupid sheeple around the globe
@@dj_tika I always prefer to think these theists are total nutters but I’m not so sure.
I think it’s more likely they are cold, calculating, zero shame grifters. 😉
@shifterbbr1986 if not directly on some level of their fractured self awareness no doubt, a deep rational lsd induced dive into themselves to see who they really are would be a gratifying thing to watch
And he knows that we know he's a liar.
@@Forest_Fifer Most definitely.
"Let them come in" must be talking about the immigrants at the southern US border.
I kinda read what he was saying as "just because it's tradition doesn't necessarily mean it's good" which is a weird thing for a pastor of any kind to preach, so maybe I'm just coloring his vague assertions with my own perceptions?
12:25 he said at the beginning he would be reading from what he wrote down after the experience
Even if I was a believer, I would think the vision about the river means, "stop polluting my rivers" and not some vague metaphor about traditions vs faith.
I'd say the guy already had hope. After all, you should always look on the bright side of life!
When life gives you grisle, don't grumble, give a whistle.
Always look on the bright side of death
Assuming for a second that his god did talk to him, that message sounded more like an order to let immigrants in. Funny how he didn’t take it that way.
Man, fuck whatever god that says that. That god could always just unfuck the issues causing mass invasions. 🤷♂️
Medication goes a long way to get this man "normal" again.
My dad used to say that the Arabs had/have this idea "Don't tell the people the truth. Tell them what they want to hear."
I think it's a standard instruction for all religionists.
Well... at the very least, he believes it's a globe. That feels like a win nowadays.
It would seem more plausible if the "Lord" had sent this guy an verifiable email, which said, "share my email address with everyone" .
surely god knew about the invention of the internet, and snagged a great email address and web site really early.
Isn't lying a sin? This guy knows he's not talking to or hearing from god.
He might be enough of a narcissist to honestly believe that he is speaking for God.
It isn’t a sin when you do it for jeebus!
Bearing false witness but I'll be honest I can't remember exactly what the Bible even says about it exactly or the connotation but if I recall correctly it's not just generalized lying it's talking more about stuff like slander
I believe he said he heard from the holy spirit. Which explains his confusion. Hey my phone accurately prophesied what I was going to type. There is your Christmas prophesy. No you can't have my phone.
@@borttorbbq2556 Proverbs 6:16-19 - For there are six things the Lord hates-no, seven: haughtiness, lying, murdering, plotting evil, eagerness to do wrong, a false witness, sowing discord among brothers.
This uses the Hebrew term "lashon sheker" which is for regular lying.
There are others, but this one is a favorite to use against people like Ray Comfort.
At about 16:25 he's shaking his head while saying "the word is very clear" - he's lying and he knows he's lying.
It’s saddening, right?
@@TheSkepTick The whole religious holier-than-thou crowd is full of lying hypocrites spurring on tribalism and hate for "others" who they malign and blame for everything bad.
Perhaps the 2 words were along the lines of "fornicate off"… 🤔
"If your heart's in the wrong place... you'd probably just die"
Not necessarily, heterotaxy syndrome has your organs jumbled, but they still function. It can certainly have life threatening complications, but that's not guaranteed. And sinus inversus is where all of your organs are in the mirrored position of where they usually are, but that one is usually harmless.
I guess you could be thinking wrong place for you. Like it was sitting in the left side of your chest, but now somehow it's in your right leg. That would likely be universally fatal.
I prefer to celebrate the Winter Solstice. Not the weird new age Wiccan or pagan kind but the non religious kind were we all mark the longest night look forward to the return of warm weather and long days and enjoy one another's company before settling into the winter drudgery, cold weather, getting up when it's still dark, getting home when it's dark ,wet shoes.🌞🕶
You ruined it for me. I want long dark nights and cold. None of that miserable sun and heat bullshit.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 Fear not the long cold miserable nights return every year.
Happy Hogswatch
Lisa the rainbow giraffe, PBAH, spoke two words upon me, and the revelation is now clear. More whiskey.
Sounds like something Sir Sic would say...
Moor-hen
Now that truly was prophetic.
It's almost as if they don't know how to have leaves bestowed upon them!
God still cannot or will not communicate in a way that is understood without a mere human explanation.
Just thanks and have a merry Christmas. Your vids are fun.
It is truly horrifying that this guy can sit there and claim he talks to god (seemingly as if its just a daily thing for him) with such casualness.
I think he confused "prophecying" with "proselytizing". It shouldn't be surprising though, given the education standards he was likely told were above all others.
Anytime anyone does anything to please God, aren't they trying to "manipulate" Him?
Sorry, Skeppy, but in "Christianese" the word prophecy doesn't always mean predicting the future. Any "word" from the god can be characterized as "prophetic". I didn't say this makes sense, it's just how their language works.
And, yes, this video was all just Christianese word salad.
A prophecy is supposed to tell of things in the future. I don't see any difference between a prophecy and a prediction. I don't speak Christianese, but I do translate BS. 😁
So god wanted us to get this message so bad he needed a random person to deliver it? Wouldn't it be easier for him to just show up and tell us himself?
Those 2 words kinda multiplied lol
I tried to get away from religion but the promise of god talking in my head keeps drawing me in. The lord speaks right in this guys head!
If I had another voice in my head I could figure stuff out quickly, maybe even be twice as good at math…sometimes you just need some one there to bounce things off, don’t have to pick up a phone and all that
Funny how God only told this guy something completely typical that he already believed/read in the Bible, instead of something completely new and novel that he wasn't already thinking
Happy whatever, Skeppy! I was going to send you a Super Thanks, but something is going on with my account. I contacted Google, but got no reply. They say my password is wrong, but I know it by heart.
Anyway, enjoy your holidays and can't wait for more vids in the New Year! Cheers 🍻
It's Dec 24th, I just spent 2 hrs in minus 20 celsius panhandling and made 0 dollars and 0 cents. Thanks jeebus.
Panhandling is out; busking is in.
I only got $3 and a bag of Chexmix the one time I tried to panhandle
I thought pan handling was when you get gold ore from rivers.