Who is the REAL Owner of SABAH: Territorial Disputes Between the Philippines and Malaysia
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
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This video explores the historical and ongoing territorial disputes over Sabah between the Philippines and Malaysia. Tracing back to the 15th century, the region was part of the Sultanate of Brunei, later ceded to the Sultanate of Sulu. In the 19th century, agreements with British figures such as Alexander Dalrymple and William Cowie formalized control over the area, eventually leading to the establishment of the British North Borneo Company. Despite becoming part of Malaysia in 1963, the Philippines continues to claim Sabah based on historical treaties. Recent arbitration has awarded $14.9 billion to the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu, further complicating the dispute. This video delves into the legal, historical, and political aspects of the conflict, examining whether the incorporation of Sabah into Malaysia was legal and the implications of the 1878 treaty.
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Why would you want to be a part of a country that could not even take care of its own people?
You can be Malaysians all you want and no one is forcing you to be Filipino. The fact that Malaysia won't face the Philippines in a legal arbitration to finally settle the Sabah Issue says all about your government. If Sabah will be returned to Sultanate of Sulu then you just have to packed your bags out to other place where you can feel more Malaysians.
@@user-yy7up3eb7i You mean the SULU PIRATES that claimed themselves as sultan.
There is a court case recorded in 2001 by ICJ (International Court of Justice, The Hague) about the Philippines' claims on North Borneo. It is a special 37-page report by ICJ that was published in 2001 and is easily accessible from the ICJ official website. It was a trial within a trial in the main court case between Malaysia and Indonesia over the ownership of the islands of Sipadan and Ligitan in Sabah. Philippines which is not a party to the trial requested permission to intervene. To comply with Article 62 of the Statute of the Court, the Philippines stated the objectives for the intervention (Section 7 & 84) namely, to safeguard and preserve the Philippines' historical and legal rights (only found in the 1973 PH Constitution) over North Borneo and to inform the court of the effect or effect of the court outcomes of the trial on its claim to the territories. In that trial, Philippines lawyers explained their case especially the Sulu-Ovenbeck 1878 agreement (primal reference) and related information to the court (Section 44 & 83). The same 15 main court judges were sitting at the bench and Malaysian and Indonesian lawyers too were present. On 23 October 2001, by a 14 to 1 vote, the court rejected the Philippine's request on the ground that there is “no interest of legal nature” (Section 93). (Meaning Sulu/PH claim on Sabah is null and void) Type the statement below and go to the official ICJ website (a 37-page report): INTIZRNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE REPORTS OF JUDGMENTS, ADVISORY OPINIONS AND ORDERS CASE CONCERNING SOVEREIGNTY OVER PULAU LIGITAN AND PULAU SIPADAN APPLICATION BY THE PHILIPPINES FOR PERMISSION TO INTERVENE JUDGMENT OF 23 OCTOBER 2001
Notice the PH objectives in the intervention, its primal reference, and the verdict by the court.
Did you see any celebration in PH if Sulu won the case? Are there any Sulu billionaires around? The news has been published internationally as well as in PH itself. Check the latest in June 2023. These are a few.
The Manila Times: Dutch court rules against sultan's heirs
AlJazeera: Malaysia hails ‘victory’ in row with Sulu sultan’s Filipino heirs
Philippine Star: French court upholds Malaysia’s challenge vs $15-B award to Sulu heirs
Reuters: Spain charges arbitrator who awarded $15 billion to sultan's heirs in Malaysia dispute
Reuters: Malaysia says Luxembourg court sets aside request to enforce $15 bln arbitration award
Bloomberg: Malaysia Wins Court Fight Over Sulu Heirs’ $15 Billion Award
Let’s go Sabahan Empire!!!!!
I'm not dinying the claim that was long ago our ancestors. But point clarify,is the source of master mind to become twisting into the wrong path is Alfred dence. The British in charge in Sabah ,there's something toxic plan b4 end of agreement 1978 ,return it into the real remnant of that land. we know already ,that was happened 1963 all state become one, to creating the scaterd become one Malaysia...twisting the agreement 1878 in Sandakan, into compensation pay around 5,3oo.oo renggits to the remnants of sultan sulu..my opinion continue the claim of Sabah.
Dont worry Malaysian brothers/sister. Philippines is just all talk no action.
I don't think they just talk. You know they keep pressing this issue right
You can stay confident and tease the Philippines, but I hope you are tough once we take sarawak and Sabah. Don't forget that both the Philippines and Indonesia have territorial conflicts with Malaydeshi, so it's not surprising to see the liberation of two regions in the future..
everyone know you are coward but like to talk big. Your macapagal was among the biggest mouth during confrontation but when sukarno asked for help to attack Mal, his balls suddenly shrunk and he is nowhere to be found, hiding under his wife skirt. That history written for your grandchildrens to read, coward always be coward, big mouth but small balls. Shame
Everyone know Pnoy are coward but like to talk big. During confrontation, your macapagal was one of the biggest mouth against Mal formation. But when sukarno asked for help to attack Mal, his balls suddenly shrunk and he is nowhere to be found. History written for your grandchildrens to read, coward will always be a coward, big mouth but with little tiny balls, shameful.
They’ll beg their US master to help them that’s all they know they can’t stand up for themselves . Puny puppet pinoys is the doormat of the US 😂
Best way is Sabah to be independent .
I agree
Sabah😅and suluk😭 and malaysia🇲🇾 and philippine🇵🇭
Why now? Sabahan does not want to be Filipino. Philippines should deal with China first rather than claiming sabah .😂😂😂
True
They know that china is coming. They just wanna have a back up plan, in case if they have to retreat a bit if china success in taking Philippine shore. Retreat a bit to fight another day. Good plan, but a little stupid to create another tension.
You are free to leave! The facts don't change that Sabah Belongs to the Philippines
@@user-wz5mq7eh7vwho cares
@@fifiemayasari8778 Damn right.. They always claim Sabah, while Mindanao is still a mess in their country
Brunei is the original owner of Sabah, but gifted to sultan of sultanate of Sulu, not the phil. govt.
Sulu needs to show undisputable proof that earlier, the Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu as a gift for assisting in Brunei’s civil war. This is to rebuke the existence of the 29/12/1877 agreement (consisting of 4 agreements) signed by the Brunei Sultanate that grants the whole of North Borneo to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC).
@@hopelope1703 Hai from Brunei - Yes your absolutely right 👍
Yes that's is very true
Sabah is Brunei Darussalam 🇧🇳 original owner not the Phillipines
It's a friend ship to Sultan of Sulu Brunei cousin
Not to the Phillipines govt
@user-fz7kz5nu2v and what is the sultanate of sulu? Filipino? 😂😂😂
@user-fz7kz5nu2v becareful indonesia want their land back aswell. Indonesians are good people. We get along fine with them 😂😂😂 karma always comes back
Sabah people don't want eat pag pag like Philippine so we will forever staying with Malaysia 🤣💨
Then get out of Sabah 😂
then return sabah to rghtful owner. not in malaysia but the sultan of sulu. and please read the history. it was only lease out by federal malaysia state to sultanate. and malaysia govt is greedy enough wanting a land that doesnt not belong to them.
@@benorbenedict the rightful owner is Malaysia.. your dead state of sulu is just another terrorist group in Philippines 🤣💨 even by history Sulu Terrorist already lost everything to the British 🤪
Sabah was never under sulu hand, Brunei strongly disapproved your false narration that sabah ceded to sulu. Sorry 😂
@@kuroshiro2396 MALAYDESH 🇲🇾🇲🇾💩
As a sabahan I would prefer part of the Philippines since North Borneo is really part of the Philippines. Therefore we are also Filipinos and Filipinas.🇵🇭🫶
You are welcome our brother
You're a traitor to the Sabahan people
Indian are not allowed to meddle
Stop pretending 😂 your video say something else.
Your name is Indian stop lying
Does a tenant have the right to consent to the sale of a property or is that the right of the owner? This is the crux of the issue that Malaysia chooses to down play as a non issue because the truth of the matter is unfavorable to them. In fact the consent of the RESIDENTS of Sabah is a non issue because they do not hold the right to surrender territory that DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM. If that is the case then Tenancy agreements to houses and properties will be endangered but that is not the case in Malaysia because Land Law respects the rights of the land owner.
Sulu/PH needs to resolve 3 legal aspects before making any claim on Sabah from Malaysia. Firstly, Sulu needs to show undisputable proof that earlier, the Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu as a gift for assisting in Brunei’s civil war. This is to rebuke the existence of the 29/12/1877 agreement (consisting of 4 agreements) signed by the Brunei Sultanate that grants the whole of North Borneo to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). These agreements exist and are kept at the National Archives in London. The word “grant” has been used, and it has never been challenged or protested by Brunei, even when the British turned North Borneo into a British Charter (1881), Protectorate (1888), Colony (1946), and finally British Parliament under the Malaysia Act 1963 incorporate it into Malaysia. Secondly, let's assume North Borneo belongs to Sulu. The Sultanate of Sulu signed many agreements to relinquish his territories and dependencies (including North Borneo) to the colonizers. These include the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement with Spain on 22/7/1878 and the Carpenter Agreement on 22/3/1915 with the US. Later Spain and the US relinquished North Borneo under the Madrid Protocol of 1885 and Anglo-US Border Convention 1930 to the British respectively. In the end, Sulu has nothing. Thirdly, PH claims North Borneo (Sabah) is null and void. For any colonized colony that seeks independence, the territory (sovereignty) is based on what has been given by their colonizer. In this regard, the principle of uti posseditis juris is applicable, acceptable, and recognized internationally. PH got their independence from the US in 1946 and under this principle, there is NO North Borneo. Rebut with facts and references. Not hearsay. The UN has recognized Sabah in Malaysia since 1963.
@@hopelope1703 Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
@@hopelope1703Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu of Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
It were only a goodwill token for sulu to behave and not spreading lies. It is stopped now when they misbehave 😂
And the best part was, they wont be able to receive any token or money from anywhere now as MY has categorised them as a terr0r!st in europe courts. What a brilliant move by MY 😂😂
Respect due to the Sultan of Sulu.
Sulu/PH needs to resolve 3 legal aspects before making any claim on Sabah from Malaysia. Firstly, Sulu needs to show undisputable proof that earlier, the Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu as a gift for assisting in Brunei’s civil war. This is to rebuke the existence of the 29/12/1877 agreement (consisting of 4 agreements) signed by the Brunei Sultanate that grants the whole of North Borneo to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). These agreements exist and are kept at the National Archives in London. The word “grant” has been used, and it has never been challenged or protested by Brunei, even when the British turned North Borneo into a British Charter (1881), Protectorate (1888), Colony (1946), and finally British Parliament under the Malaysia Act 1963 incorporate it into Malaysia. Secondly, let's assume North Borneo belongs to Sulu. The Sultanate of Sulu signed many agreements to relinquish his territories and dependencies (including North Borneo) to the colonizers. These include the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement with Spain on 22/7/1878 and the Carpenter Agreement on 22/3/1915 with the US. Later Spain and the US relinquished North Borneo under the Madrid Protocol of 1885 and Anglo-US Border Convention 1930 to the British respectively. In the end, Sulu has nothing. Thirdly, PH claims North Borneo (Sabah) is null and void. For any colonized colony that seeks independence, the territory (sovereignty) is based on what has been given by their colonizer. In this regard, the principle of uti posseditis juris is applicable, acceptable, and recognized internationally. PH got their independence from the US in 1946 and under this principle, there is NO North Borneo. Rebut with facts and references. Not hearsay. The UN has recognized Sabah in Malaysia since 1963.
@@hopelope1703Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu of Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
@@hopelope1703 Do you imply recognize = absolute claim?
@@KyliJinx
Begging for goodwill token again. No token for terr0r!st pag2 eater, no more 😂😂😂
@@davidarvingumazon5024 There is a court case recorded in 2001 by ICJ (International Court of Justice, The Hague) about the Philippines' claims on North Borneo. It is a special 37-page report by ICJ that was published in 2001 and is easily accessible from the ICJ official website. It was a trial within a trial in the main court case between Malaysia and Indonesia over the ownership of the islands of Sipadan and Ligitan in Sabah. Philippines which is not a party to the trial requested permission to intervene. To comply with Article 62 of the Statute of the Court, the Philippines stated the objectives for the intervention (Section 7 & 84) namely, to safeguard and preserve the Philippines' historical and legal rights (only found in the 1973 PH Constitution) over North Borneo and to inform the court of the effect or effect of the court outcomes of the trial on its claim to the territories. In that trial, Philippines lawyers explained their case especially the Sulu-Ovenbeck 1878 agreement (primal reference) and related information to the court (Section 44 & 83). The same 15 main court judges were sitting at the bench and Malaysian and Indonesian lawyers too were present. On 23 October 2001, by a 14 to 1 vote, the court rejected the Philippine's request on the ground that there is “no interest of legal nature” (Section 93). (Meaning Sulu/PH claim on Sabah is null and void) Type the statement below and go to the official ICJ website (a 37-page report): INTIZRNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE REPORTS OF JUDGMENTS, ADVISORY OPINIONS AND ORDERS CASE CONCERNING SOVEREIGNTY OVER PULAU LIGITAN AND PULAU SIPADAN APPLICATION BY THE PHILIPPINES FOR PERMISSION TO INTERVENE JUDGMENT OF 23 OCTOBER 2001
Notice the PH objectives in the intervention, its primal reference, and the judge’s verdict.
Sabah is owned by Sabah's people which is also Malaysian citizens. Other Malaysians who have no connection to Sabah can't enter or live in Sabah without Sabah's immigration permission.
Sabah is not a state, but an autonomous region.
In your hallucination dreams lol😅😅😅 wake up it's belong to the Philippines 💕😘💕😘
@@user-bn2kc8nl1o and yet, it is the Philippines that still lives in the dream and does not own Sabah.... I woke up today and just checked, Sabah IS STILL with Malaysia. Oppssss
@@halimrahman dont worry sabah or north borneo will be independent countries soon ..because of unfair treatment by east malaysia hahahah philippines economy will grow up next 10years and the 4million filipino in north borneo will seeking independent soon
@@emansept29 That’s it. I was not worried.
Sabah has prospered in Malaysia for the past 60 years. Now you are coming to tell them that they can thrive with you after 10 years? Hmmm… “Past” that has been proven and “future” that is unknown, which one will people choose?
With a Malaysian passport, people from Sabah can travel the world without any hassle. Can you say the same with your passport? And you expect these people will just leave and hug another passport.
And those 4 million Filipinos in Sabah, wouldn’t have crossed the sea leaving their beloved country of the Philippines if Sabah could not provide them something better, something that the Philippines is currently missing. They want it now, not your 10-year promise in the future.
If you have a headache, maybe go and buy some from the pharmacy. Since you are not Malaysian, you are not eligible for free healthcare and free medicines.
@@halimrahman if your government pair treatment's to natives tribe like badjao tribe and other sulu clan ... no problem but your government is greedy and not willing to fight your sovereign right on legal battle like international court ... the international court are open willing to assist the disputes on legal means... but malaysia government deny the court battle hahahaha
Sabah locals dont even want to join the Filipinos lmao.
And sabah locals are illegally occupying stolen land, do you think they have a day in this?😂
@@user-jo3cq6cc7f they do. And plus Malaysia has better quality of life, education, lifestyle, infrastructure, investments, stronger economy, better government, and better leader. You Filipinos have a lot of problems and still behaving like a colonial country. US ain't gonna help you buddy.
Sabah local have been around since 235,000 years ago when pinoy were still in the ape form, says Darwin. Go read Mansuli Valley 😂
@@user-jo3cq6cc7f Malaysia is more competent than Philippines. Philippines still act like a coloniql country, relying on daddy US and the west. Malaysia making good deals with west and China. Plus Sabah would rather be with Malaysia than you corrupt filipinos
@@user-jo3cq6cc7fIllegal my ass..You guys are no different to Israel..Try to claim something doesn't belong to you..Sabah belong to Malaysia and the indigenous ethnic in Sabah
Indeed the Malaysian Government breached the 1878 (Lease or Rental) Agreement when they ceased to pay the annual rental to the heirs of the sultan of Sulu and Sabah. The award of the French Court is just and fair for the poor landowners who were receiving meager rental payments of a vast real estate considering the reality that it is now the 21st Century. The French Court must maintain and uphold the decision awarded to the heirs of the sultan of Sulu as real estate legal precedent that an ethnic group of people can not just migrate to a certain land and later on claim self-determination, otherwise the Middle Eastern Asians, South Asians , and other ethnic group of Asians in London can claim the right of self-determination as well as the hispanic majority in California.
The french court has made the final judgement that favour to MY. Please digest the fact that you are repeatedly beaten in all courts you brought in europe
Did you see any celebration in PH if Sulu won the case? Is there any Sulu billionaires around? The news has been published internationally as well as in PH itself. Check the latest in 2023. These are a few.
The Manila Times: Dutch court rules against sultan's heirs
AlJazeera: Malaysia hails ‘victory’ in row with Sulu sultan’s Filipino heirs
Philippine Star: French court upholds Malaysia’s challenge vs $15-B award to Sulu heirs
Reuters: Spain charges arbitrator who awarded $15 billion to sultan's heirs in Malaysia dispute
Reuters: Malaysia says Luxembourg court sets aside request to enforce $15 bln arbitration award
Bloomberg: Malaysia Wins Court Fight Over Sulu Heirs’ $15 Billion Award
What undisputable evidence do you have that Sabah belongs to Sulu/PH?
Delusion as always. Same as naming some South China Sea as west Philippines sea WPS that can’t be find in any map of any country inclusive of Philippines own national map archive.
Sulu Island, Jolo Island should be to Malaysia Muslim. North Malaysia Sea. Sarawak - Sabah was belonging to Brunei . Malaysian never scare to war with. Winner takes all. Malaysia - Indonesia war in 1964.
is this some kind of a retarded joke..calling an existing state as a real estate.
Sabah actually belonged to the natives and Sultanate of Brunei. Sulu Sultanate has no claim since it has disintegrated due to the Spanish influence.
Hai from Brunei - Yes your absolute right
@@TuaDillah Brunei is part of majapahit kingdom 🥰
@@gilangsaputra6333 yes after we rebellion again Majapahit than we lost we seek a new land we find Borneo 😀 surprise you know Brunei History perhaps you already know when Brunei became Empire all Borneo and almost half of Philippine are own by Brunei or you can call that time PUNI
@@TuaDillah and the sultanate of brunei totally dis agree with you
Yes Sabah are family to Brunei 🇧🇳 same as Sarawak
Sabah belongs to Sabahan people. Why would ever want Sultan Sulu who treat sabahan people as a Slave trade business? And why would we ever want to return back to a Sultan Sulu who did not learn the lesson from the past Lapu2 fight for preventing Slavery happened while he enjoyed making Slave business to Sabahan people's in the past?
@@powerbar1981 @filoboi3256
@@powerbar1981 Agree..@filobou3256
Sultan of Sulo never surrender to tyrant attack of the colonizer //spain America and etcetera// the sultanate ofSulo never surrender / Sabah is under the rule of the Sultanate of Sulo //surrender mean under colonial rule /Britain/Spain or America//yes religion converted to Christianity//But The Sabah people never understood there king//that Sabah remain there belief
you see //people of the Philippines are your brothers//historical Sabahan and pilipino of the same lineage//we are brothers the famous arrival of Datus in the archipelago from borneo//pilipinos celebrate this Datus arrival
@@powerbar1981 because you sabahan were Malaysian originally and you were just a part of business commodity haha....
Downgrading ourselves to the Philippines and to peso?? No thanks! We prefer Malaysia rather the Philippines. SABAH MALAYSIA 🇲🇾
Don't care what a shame malaydesh, Sabah Philippines
Malaysia also poor, And the ringgit not high, Besides malay people are bangladesh hahah
@franciscogozo2229 @princekim4171
I can't comprehend what kind of insults you two are throwing. They sound cheap and UNEDUCATED. Perhaps, you two are showing the level of education that the Philippines can provide?
Then leave sabah😂
@@melyaborot1707 you mean the illegal Filipinos who despise living in the Philippines? We want them out too...
No one in Sabah wants to downgrade themselves to becomes pinoy. Even pinoy come to Sabah to earn Ringgit money than Peso 🤣🤣🤣 Pinoy can dream. There is nothing they can do.
Are you saying Sabahans/Malaysians are more superior than Filipinos? WOW!! JUST WOW!!!!
@@everydayliving658 what do you think that pinoys are better than Malaysia? U can't even beat Cambodia. U didn't even realise that pinoys is a joke of ASEAN.
You are free to leave!. The facts don't change that Sabah belongs to the Philippines
@@user-wz5mq7eh7v leave?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I live in Kota Kinabalu bro... Are u high? I beat Pignoise immigrants for breakfast 🤣 try come here without using your passport. 🤣🖕
@@user-wz5mq7eh7v Most of Sabahan doesn't agree with your statement..You are so rude..How dare you to chase us away in our own land..
The thing is that majority Sabahan........might not want to end up in Philippines.
Its because the malaysian goverment dont want the legitimate people in coastal sabah to live in their own land they settle a migrant malaysian from mainland and after 50 years they are the strong influence in the land but the true inhabitant is cast away by the malaysian goverment
True but that doesn't change the fact that Sabah is indeed part of the Philippines.
They can leave sabah if they dont want to be part of this new ruling.
@@user-ms1wm8fq9w even your own people from the southern Philippines seek refuge in Sabah and building better life here. Keep dreaming 😂 I doubt your own people that flee your country want the double trouble 😂
@@user-ms1wm8fq9w Not gonna happen,this is our land...So,stop telling us to leave..
The island of borneo should be independent from everyone
read the sabah 20-point agreement,Point No 7
@@azaharimohd7497 A piece of paper should never decide the fate of my people
The documents will tell that the owner is the sultanate of sulu...let the records in Britain tell.
Sulu/PH needs to resolve 3 legal aspects before making any claim on Sabah from Malaysia. Firstly, Sulu needs to show undisputable proof that earlier, the Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu as a gift for assisting in Brunei’s civil war. This is to rebuke the existence of the 29/12/1877 agreement (consisting of 4 agreements) signed by the Brunei Sultanate that grants the whole of North Borneo to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). These agreements exist and are kept at the National Archives in London. The word “grant” has been used, and it has never been challenged or protested by Brunei, even when the British turned North Borneo into a British Charter (1881), Protectorate (1888), Colony (1946), and finally British Parliament under the Malaysia Act 1963 incorporate it into Malaysia. Secondly, let's assume North Borneo belongs to Sulu. The Sultanate of Sulu signed many agreements to relinquish his territories and dependencies (including North Borneo) to the colonizers. These include the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement with Spain on 22/7/1878 and the Carpenter Agreement on 22/3/1915 with the US. Later Spain and the US relinquished North Borneo under the Madrid Protocol of 1885 and Anglo-US Border Convention 1930 to the British respectively. In the end, Sulu has nothing. Thirdly, PH claims North Borneo (Sabah) is null and void. For any colonized colony that seeks independence, the territory (sovereignty) is based on what has been given by their colonizer. In this regard, the principle of uti posseditis juris is applicable, acceptable, and recognized internationally. PH got their independence from the US in 1946 and under this principle, there is NO North Borneo. Rebut with facts and references. Not hearsay. The UN has recognized Sabah in Malaysia since 1963.
Sulu/PH needs to resolve 3 legal aspects before making any claim on Sabah from Malaysia. Firstly, Sulu needs to show undisputable proof that earlier, the Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu as a gift for assisting in Brunei’s civil war. This is to rebuke the existence of the 29/12/1877 agreement (consisting of 4 agreements) signed by the Brunei Sultanate that grants the whole of North Borneo to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). These agreements exist and are kept at the National Archives in London. The word “grant” has been used, and it has never been challenged or protested by Brunei, even when the British turned North Borneo into a British Charter (1881), Protectorate (1888), Colony (1946), and finally British Parliament under the Malaysia Act 1963 incorporate it into Malaysia. Secondly, let's assume North Borneo belongs to Sulu. The Sultanate of Sulu signed many agreements to relinquish his territories and dependencies (including North Borneo) to the colonizers. These include the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement with Spain on 22/7/1878 and the Carpenter Agreement on 22/3/1915 with the US. Later Spain and the US relinquished North Borneo under the Madrid Protocol of 1885 and Anglo-US Border Convention 1930 to the British respectively. In the end, Sulu has nothing. Thirdly, PH claims North Borneo (Sabah) is null and void. For any colonized colony that seeks independence, the territory (sovereignty) is based on what has been given by their colonizer. In this regard, the principle of uti posseditis juris is applicable, acceptable, and recognized internationally. PH got their independence from the US in 1946 and under this principle, there is NO North Borneo. Rebut with facts and references. Not hearsay. The UN has recognized Sabah in Malaysia since 1963.
@@hopelope1703 Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu of Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
@@jmgamer7332I'm still waiting the see you show me the agreement regarding the rent. 😂😂😂😂 dreaming
@@hopelope1703there is no such thing as rent agreement it's only gift money to the poor pag pag sulu.. 🤣💨
@@kuroshiro2396 I know. But he insist it is a rent. I ask him to produce the agreement as proof what he said is true. Until now no news. As there is NONE.
@@hopelope1703 Shame on you. You're trying your best to justify the crooked thing your politicians or leaders did 60 years ago. If someone else gave away part of you house he rented to somebody else what would you do? It is an immoral thing to grab someone else's property. You're evil, don't you know that?
The 1878 Agreement is an annual lease or rental beyond the lifetime of the sultan of Sulu. It means the death of the sultan will not abrogate the annual rental agreement. There is no such annual rental if the agreement is to cede. Squatters of Sabah who didn't even recognize the sultan of Sulu and Sabah as the owner of the land can not claim the right of self-determination otherwise it will be a precedent for any squatter to claim the right of self-determination with the landlord or land owner left without any legal protection.
How do you explain the existence of two agreements related to the ownership of North Borneo (Sabah) namely between Brunei Sultanate & BNBC (29/12/1877) and Sulu & BNBC (22/17/1878)? The only existing agreement involving the Sultanate of Brunei (original owner) is that agreement that Brunei granted and ceded North Borneo to BNBC on 29/12/1877. If the Brunei Sultanate had given North Borneo to Sulu much earlier, his majesty would not have signed that 1877 agreement. The signing confirms North Borneo belongs to Brunei and not Sulu. Why is there no protest from Sulu to Brunei for signing the 1877 agreement? Why was the Sulu & BNBC agreement not signed earlier in 1877 but 3 weeks later (1878) after the signing of the 1877 agreement. The original agreement in Tausug is missing during His Majesty's trip to Singapore, Thus, the validity of Sulu ownership of North Borneo is doubtful. How on earth can Sulu own North Borneo if there is no undisputable proof that the Brunei Sultanate gave it to them earlier? Unless there is a possibility the British had been scammed, deceived, or intimidated by Sulu into signing that 1878 agreement? The first agreement (1877) with the original owner is more valid in court.
The Sultanate of Sulu signed many agreements to relinquish his territories and dependencies (including North Borneo) to the colonizers. These include the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement with Spain on 22/7/1878.
the sabah squatter just finnish of kiram military, filippinos were defeated soundly
Sabah's future would likely depend on the next UNCLOS and USA.
If it is decided by the next UNCLOS that Sabah belongs to the Philippines, and USA is willing to lend us her military toys, then, Sabah will be a province of the Philippines, and Sabahans should apply for Philippine citizenship or they will be deported to Malaysia.
UNCLOS does not deal with sovereignty, only on maritime issues.
By international recognition,
Sabah is an Independent State (by its own people) and formed Malaysia Federation!
Remember, Sabah is not joining an existed country named Malaysia,
But Sabah, Sarawak and Federation of Malaya (West Malaysia today) was agreed to form a new Federation ..
Even to visit another States between east and west we still used passport and travel pass, permit if to work..
State of Sabah, The Federation of Malaysia... Glory !
@@rhyzlutkemeyer1712 exactly
Sabah only used Malaysia as administrator only.
Not consider independent.
Last 2 years opposition questions about philippines claim Sabah, cannot discuss in the parliament on this issue.
@@faustonissi5692
Parliament is too open, how come secret strategies need to discuss in Parliament?
Its all about sovereignty strategies...
Sabah is an Independent State, formed Malaysia Federation,
Malaysia will return Sabah or else it will burden to them payment of 14 billions
Sulu/PH needs to resolve 3 legal aspects before making any claim on Sabah from Malaysia. Firstly, Sulu needs to show undisputable proof that earlier, the Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu as a gift for assisting in Brunei’s civil war. This is to rebuke the existence of the 29/12/1877 agreement (consisting of 4 agreements) signed by the Brunei Sultanate that grants the whole of North Borneo to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). These agreements exist and are kept at the National Archives in London. The word “grant” has been used, and it has never been challenged or protested by Brunei, even when the British turned North Borneo into a British Charter (1881), Protectorate (1888), Colony (1946), and finally British Parliament under the Malaysia Act 1963 incorporate it into Malaysia. Secondly, let's assume North Borneo belongs to Sulu. The Sultanate of Sulu signed many agreements to relinquish his territories and dependencies (including North Borneo) to the colonizers. These include the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement with Spain on 22/7/1878 and the Carpenter Agreement on 22/3/1915 with the US. Later Spain and the US relinquished North Borneo under the Madrid Protocol of 1885 and Anglo-US Border Convention 1930 to the British respectively. In the end, Sulu has nothing. Thirdly, PH claims North Borneo (Sabah) is null and void. For any colonized colony that seeks independence, the territory (sovereignty) is based on what has been given by their colonizer. In this regard, the principle of uti posseditis juris is applicable, acceptable, and recognized internationally. PH got their independence from the US in 1946 and under this principle, there is NO North Borneo. Rebut with facts and references. Not hearsay. The UN has recognized Sabah in Malaysia since 1963.
Sulu lost all arbitration court cases in Europe in 2023. Did you see any celebration in PH if Sulu won the case? Is there any Sulu billionaires around? NONE
@@hopelope1703 Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
@@hopelope1703Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu of Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
Sabah is part of the philippines
@@KyliJinx If you called it rent, where is the agreement between Sulu and Malaysia? If none, it is just like what pirates and mafia do for a living. Why in the 1878 agreement, was Malaysia not mentioned? Is there any clause in the 1878 agreement that Malaysia has the responsibility to continue paying Sulu? Why do the receipts in Sulu's possession not mention the money is for the rent? Why is the amount so small and not what has been stipulated in the agreement? One Mexican gold dollar (coins) in 1878 weighed 1.7 grams of gold. So, 5300 X 1.7/1000 = 9.01 kg of gold. Compare the value of 5300 Malaysian dollars to 9 kg of gold. Giving away money is not an offense. Can give or stop giving any time.
0:48 wrong history, wrong clips(WW2). We Sabahan know more, Sultan of Brunei never gives eastern North Borneo to Sulu because they are late to help the civil war but the sulu still claim it. The Brunei Sultan ceded the whole land of North Borneo(Sabah) to BNCC.
@@ae-Michael Hai from Brunei - Yes your absolutely right 👍😄
Sabah belongs to the people of Sabah, not some illegal immigrant from oversea. Originally Sabah was belong to Brunei. We are more happy to be returned to Brunei or forming our own country than to be with Phillippine.
@@ahfez Hai from Brunei - we (Brunei) think it's better Sabah become Independent 👍😉
Hello from Philippines. Your claims are more valid than our claims.
AGREED
@@TuaDillah read the 20-point agreement,Point No 7
I am a Pilipino i accept that sabah is good to be in malaysia but you need to pay the right amount of exploited resources its for the good of sulu all money who receive in malaysia is to help sulu on their projects and social welfare needs
We will give none. All these while we are giving a goodwill token for them to behave and not spreading lies. Now no more to the misbehave sulu😊
why? they are Pilipino too..go ask money from your gov to take care of their social welfare needs.😆
no such thing as "exploited resources" when it is our territory. we can do whatever we want with it
@@azaharimohd7497 that's why we need to take you to court because of that reasonings we are asking for the payments MTF...haha it's been long overdue 15bilions plus interest or just leave peacefully...as expected Malaysian people doest not honors agreements because you people are greedy haha we will take back Sabah wether you like it or not ...
@@wnzaroute8534 Goodwill token ? We don't need that MTF we need full rent payments plus interest...or simply leave you Dishonored an agreement that has been long respected by your ancestor...nothing but greed that's in your viens...
I’m a filipino, i believe sabah belong to Malaysia
Your words betray you. The Philippine National Anthem says, " Never shall invaders trample thy sacred shores ...for us thy sons to suffer and die . "
@@davenfrias5549 why is the gov. of the Phillipines stop claiming the Sabah? because they already know the answer that Sabah is not part of the Phillipines.
@@davenfrias5549 As a Filipino, I lose hope to our nation. We already have issue in West Philippines sea, now we are bringing another?
I'm a malaysian. I believe sabah belong to philippine.
@acetvgamingyt4166 have you ever heard about Pugad Island? Now search it in google Maps, the media and gov. Are silence about it hahaha you depressed more 🤣 if you see it
What a shame to Phillipine ? Why Phillipine did not claim Sabah 60 years ago until today. The UN Charter was recognized Sabah was part of Malaysia in 1963. Phillipinos did not under the definition of EEZ ( Exclusive Economic Zone) and using the pretext of EEZ to furious claim as their property. The EEZ ( Water boundary or passage) did not include territorial sovereignty thus it is invalid. In addition, All the disputed claims in SCS with Philippine was over 70 years ago and the EEZ not even exist (EEZ formed in 1980).
BECAUSE SABAH IS NOT PART OF YOUR COUNTRY BEFORE.. WE HAVE DOCUMENTS THATS SABAH IS BELONG TO PHILIPPINES. AND YOU ONLY A RENTER OR PAJAKAN I THINK IN YOUR LANGUAGE.. TO DISPUTE IN SOUTH CHINA SEA. CHINA DONT HAVE ANY EVIDENCE. ONLY THE 9 DASH LINE?. WHO WILL BELIEVE IN THE 9 DASH LINE USING A PEN??. BUT NO DOCUMENT?. HAHAHA
WE DONT CLAIM SABAH IF WE DONT HAVE DOCUMENTS.. BEFORE THE BRITISH IS FAVOR IN YOU. DO YOU THINK THE BRITISH. WILL FAVOR AGAIN IN YOU??..
THE RIGHTFUL OWNER OF SABAH IS SULTAN OF SULU. NOT THE PHILIPPINES. BUT SULTAN OF SULU IS A PEOPLE IN THE PHILIPPINES.. AND ASK FOR HELP TO GET BACK THE SABAH.
BEFORE SO MANY FILIPINO PEOPLE. SACRIFICE HIS LIFE TO HELP SULTAN OF BRUNEI. THEN YOU CLAIM SABAH??. YOU DONT HAVE SHAME ON YOURSELF??.
It's simple because we are BUSY before hehe
over time they become greedy when their resources rapidly depleted. they want sabah for its resources, not to take care of its citizen
As A Filipino, Sabah Belongs to Malaysia, yes this is issue but lets accept and admit that Sabah belongs to Malaysia yes Filipinos has historically claimed Sabah before but Sabah has majority of muslim population, and the Sabah Region is governed by Malaysia.
since 1400 sulo empire under the sultanate//Sabah is under the rule of Sultanate//the creation of Malaysia under british rule in 1900//the British company lease Sabah to the Sultanate of Sulo//and take over by.Malaysian govt//but this malaysian are corrupted by chinese//the malaysian chinese takeover Sabah without returning to the Sultate//Sabah the potential of petroleum deposits//the mslaysian give a mock election persuading sabah people like Malaysia//a fake ownership
This not a foult by Malaysian government. This a gift....this gift by the British Borneo company,to Malaya.😅
X sudah2 depa ni, dah jadi kelakar tgk perangai depa ni.
Because of greed..Brunie becomes Municipality size 🤣
Simple question who owns the property the landlord or the renter? Remember Malaysia used to pay rent that's a clear answer
If you called it rent, where is the agreement between Sulu and Malaysia? If none, it is just like what pirates and mafia do for a living. Why in the 1878 agreement, was Malaysia not mentioned? Is there any clause in the 1878 agreement that Malaysia has the responsibility to continue paying Sulu? Why do the receipts in Sulu's possession not mention the money is for the rent? Why is the amount so small and not what has been stipulated in the agreement? One Mexican gold dollar (coins) in 1878 weighed 1.7 grams of gold. So, 5300 X 1.7/1000 = 9.01 kg of gold. Compare the value of 5300 Malaysian dollars to 9 kg of gold. Giving away money is not an offense. Can give or stop giving any time.
A lot of people do not understand, Malaysian making payment not because of the “Pajakan”, or lease. They pay because to help their Muslim brothers as ‘Ehsan” money. Since they send intruders, that is the end of the money
Sabah is no more a part of Philippines as Taiwan a part of China. If we pursue this technical nonsense, we are no better than the Chinese and deserve to lose the West Philippines Sea to South China Sea.
When did Sabah ever been part of Philiphines?....NEVER!!!
I’m glad Philippines has a leadership that has strength to fight for his territories🇺🇸🇵🇭
This is a milestone.a dream come true
If you are paying rent that means you don’t own the land. If you don’t want to be part of the Philippines which nothing wrong with that it’s a personal preference then get the eff out of their land. Simple as that.
MY not giving anything since 2013, and still won in courts. What does it mean to you? More simple isn't😊
If you called it rent, where is the agreement between Sulu and Malaysia? If none, it is just like what pirates and mafia do for a living. Why in the 1878 agreement, was Malaysia not mentioned? Is there any clause in the 1878 agreement that Malaysia has the responsibility to continue paying Sulu? Why do the receipts in Sulu's possession not mention the money is for the rent? Why is the amount so small and not what has been stipulated in the agreement? One Mexican gold dollar (coins) in 1878 weighed 1.7 grams of gold. So, 5300 X 1.7/1000 = 9.01 kg of gold. Compare the value of 5300 Malaysian dollars to 9 kg of gold. Giving away money is not an offense. Can give or stop giving any time.
@@hopelope1703 so you are getting technical. So answer this, why in the world your government is making payments to the Sulu sultanate. Has to be a reason right? Please don’t be d-u-m-b a-ss.
@@erbiecool1125 If you called it rent, where is the agreement between Sulu and Malaysia? If none, it is just like what pirates and mafia do for a living. Why in the 1878 agreement, was Malaysia not mentioned? Is there any clause in the 1878 agreement that Malaysia has the responsibility to continue paying Sulu? Why do the receipts in Sulu's possession not mention the money is for the rent? Why is the amount so small and not what has been stipulated in the agreement? One Mexican gold dollar (coins) in 1878 weighed 1.7 grams of gold. So, 5300 X 1.7/1000 = 9.01 kg of gold. Compare the value of 5300 Malaysian dollars to 9 kg of gold. Giving away money is not an offense. Can give or stop giving any time.
Malaysia has benefited greatly in this area with their claim to the SABAH of the PHILIPPINES for several decades until now.
May the rightful owner prevail as soon as possible in the name of Jesus the Nazarene.
🙏🏻🇵🇭👊🏾
Sulu’s ownership of Sabah can be disputed. Because Brunei Sultanate (original owner) granted North Borneo (Sabah) to BNBC dated 29/12/1877. Much earlier than the 1878 agreement. How can it belong to Sulu if Brunei can give it away? Sulu Sultanate relinquished its territories to the Spanish under the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement on 22/7/1878. Sulu has nothing left. Thus the 1878 Sulu-BNBC Agreement dated 22/1/1878 is null and void. The cession of Sabah from Sulu to PH in 1962 is invalid.
we need more videos on this issue.
the Filipinos should know the truth about what's rightfully ours.
Sabah, Philippines!🇵🇭
Sulu/PH needs to resolve 3 legal aspects before making any claim on Sabah from Malaysia. Firstly, Sulu needs to show undisputable proof that earlier, the Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu as a gift for assisting in Brunei’s civil war. This is to rebuke the existence of the 29/12/1877 agreement (consisting of 4 agreements) signed by the Brunei Sultanate that grants the whole of North Borneo to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). These agreements exist and are kept at the National Archives in London. The word “grant” has been used, and it has never been challenged or protested by Brunei, even when the British turned North Borneo into a British Charter (1881), Protectorate (1888), Colony (1946), and finally British Parliament under the Malaysia Act 1963 incorporate it into Malaysia. Secondly, let's assume North Borneo belongs to Sulu. The Sultanate of Sulu signed many agreements to relinquish his territories and dependencies (including North Borneo) to the colonizers. These include the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement with Spain on 22/7/1878 and the Carpenter Agreement on 22/3/1915 with the US. Later Spain and the US relinquished North Borneo under the Madrid Protocol of 1885 and Anglo-US Border Convention 1930 to the British respectively. In the end, Sulu has nothing. Thirdly, PH claims North Borneo (Sabah) is null and void. For any colonized colony that seeks independence, the territory (sovereignty) is based on what has been given by their colonizer. In this regard, the principle of uti posseditis juris is applicable, acceptable, and recognized internationally. PH got their independence from the US in 1946 and under this principle, there is NO North Borneo. Rebut with facts and references. Not hearsay. The UN has recognized Sabah in Malaysia since 1963.
@@hopelope1703 you can copy paste all you want, but not as strong as it is.
this crap article are non bearing fabricated arguments.
we will confronts you in any international tribunal laws.,
in any ways, shapes or form.
@@xdtrobowen3881 There is a court case recorded in 2001 by ICJ (International Court of Justice, The Hague) about the Philippines' claims on North Borneo. It is a special 37-page report by ICJ that was published in 2001 and is easily accessible from the ICJ official website. It was a trial within a trial in the main court case between Malaysia and Indonesia over the ownership of the islands of Sipadan and Ligitan in Sabah. Philippines which is not a party to the trial requested permission to intervene. To comply with Article 62 of the Statute of the Court, the Philippines stated the objectives for the intervention (Section 7 & 84) namely, to safeguard and preserve the Philippines' historical and legal rights (only found in the 1973 PH Constitution) over North Borneo and to inform the court of the effect or effect of the court outcomes of the trial on its claim to the territories. In that trial, Philippines lawyers explained their case especially the Sulu-Ovenbeck 1878 agreement (primal reference) and related information to the court (Section 44 & 83). The same 15 main court judges were sitting at the bench and Malaysian and Indonesian lawyers too were present. On 23 October 2001, by a 14 to 1 vote, the court rejected the Philippine's request on the ground that there is “no interest of legal nature” (Section 93). (Meaning Sulu/PH claim on Sabah is null and void) Type the statement below and go to the official ICJ website (a 37-page report): INTIZRNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE REPORTS OF JUDGMENTS, ADVISORY OPINIONS AND ORDERS CASE CONCERNING SOVEREIGNTY OVER PULAU LIGITAN AND PULAU SIPADAN APPLICATION BY THE PHILIPPINES FOR PERMISSION TO INTERVENE JUDGMENT OF 23 OCTOBER 2001
Notice the PH objectives in the intervention, its primal reference, and the judge’s verdict.
Sorry guys, but I am siding with Sabah with this one. We don't want to be colonizers like Spain or America right?
Ang malaysia nangunguha ng territoryo sa mga sultan ayaw nila ebalik eh inupahan lang naman nila yan.
Sulu/PH needs to resolve 3 legal aspects before making any claim on Sabah from Malaysia. Firstly, Sulu needs to show undisputable proof that earlier, the Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu as a gift for assisting in Brunei’s civil war. This is to rebuke the existence of the 29/12/1877 agreement (consisting of 4 agreements) signed by the Brunei Sultanate that grants the whole of North Borneo to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). These agreements exist and are kept at the National Archives in London. The word “grant” has been used, and it has never been challenged or protested by Brunei, even when the British turned North Borneo into a British Charter (1881), Protectorate (1888), Colony (1946), and finally British Parliament under the Malaysia Act 1963 incorporate it into Malaysia. Secondly, let's assume North Borneo belongs to Sulu. The Sultanate of Sulu signed many agreements to relinquish his territories and dependencies (including North Borneo) to the colonizers. These include the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement with Spain on 22/7/1878 and the Carpenter Agreement on 22/3/1915 with the US. Later Spain and the US relinquished North Borneo under the Madrid Protocol of 1885 and Anglo-US Border Convention 1930 to the British respectively. In the end, Sulu has nothing. Thirdly, PH claims North Borneo (Sabah) is null and void. For any colonized colony that seeks independence, the territory (sovereignty) is based on what has been given by their colonizer. In this regard, the principle of uti posseditis juris is applicable, acceptable, and recognized internationally. PH got their independence from the US in 1946 and under this principle, there is NO North Borneo. Rebut with facts and references. Not hearsay. The UN has recognized Sabah in Malaysia since 1963.
now we know who is the mastermind behind the rebellion of the sulu kingdom. Malaysia and Sabah have been independent since 67 years ago, why do you want to claim Sabah now? something is fishy. there are many islands in the philippines that are not developed just focus on your own land.
american puppet
it should be paying the Sultanate from its revenue, since it doesnt belong to Malaysia...im a Filipino, i dont care if people from Sabah prefer Malaysia, you can be Malaysian if you want, i dont want Sabah to be part of the Philippines but you have responsibilty to pay the Sultanate of Sulu which are the rightful owner of the land. Malaysian goverment are stealing money for hundred of years from the Sultanate.
nice joke u make me laugh tq 😂
@@muhdisyraq8924 you are the joke bro.
Sulu/PH needs to resolve 3 legal aspects before making any claim on Sabah from Malaysia. Firstly, Sulu needs to show undisputable proof that earlier, the Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu as a gift for assisting in Brunei’s civil war. This is to rebuke the existence of the 29/12/1877 agreement (consisting of 4 agreements) signed by the Brunei Sultanate that grants the whole of North Borneo to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). These agreements exist and are kept at the National Archives in London. The word “grant” has been used, and it has never been challenged or protested by Brunei, even when the British turned North Borneo into a British Charter (1881), Protectorate (1888), Colony (1946), and finally British Parliament under the Malaysia Act 1963 incorporate it into Malaysia. Secondly, let's assume North Borneo belongs to Sulu. The Sultanate of Sulu signed many agreements to relinquish his territories and dependencies (including North Borneo) to the colonizers. These include the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement with Spain on 22/7/1878 and the Carpenter Agreement on 22/3/1915 with the US. Later Spain and the US relinquished North Borneo under the Madrid Protocol of 1885 and Anglo-US Border Convention 1930 to the British respectively. In the end, Sulu has nothing. Thirdly, PH claims North Borneo (Sabah) is null and void. For any colonized colony that seeks independence, the territory (sovereignty) is based on what has been given by their colonizer. In this regard, the principle of uti posseditis juris is applicable, acceptable, and recognized internationally. PH got their independence from the US in 1946 and under this principle, there is NO North Borneo. Rebut with facts and references. Not hearsay. The UN has recognized Sabah in Malaysia since 1963.
I'm a Filipino. I believe Sabah belongs to Malaysia. 1963 referendum says it all.
The Philippines is not actively pursuing its claim. Only vloggers or these people who like to troll want to raise this nonsense.
is it wrong for a country to seek a peaceful resolution? it's not that Philippines is not pursuing it, it's Malaysia that keeps ignoring and downplaying the matter
@@Gangly_arms Sulu/PH needs to resolve 3 legal aspects before making any claim on Sabah from Malaysia. Firstly, Sulu needs to show undisputable proof that earlier, the Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu as a gift for assisting in Brunei’s civil war. This is to rebuke the existence of the 29/12/1877 agreement (consisting of 4 agreements) signed by the Brunei Sultanate that grants the whole of North Borneo to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). These agreements exist and are kept at the National Archives in London. The word “grant” has been used, and it has never been challenged or protested by Brunei, even when the British turned North Borneo into a British Charter (1881), Protectorate (1888), Colony (1946), and finally British Parliament under the Malaysia Act 1963 incorporate it into Malaysia. Secondly, let's assume North Borneo belongs to Sulu. The Sultanate of Sulu signed many agreements to relinquish his territories and dependencies (including North Borneo) to the colonizers. These include the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement with Spain on 22/7/1878 and the Carpenter Agreement on 22/3/1915 with the US. Later Spain and the US relinquished North Borneo under the Madrid Protocol of 1885 and Anglo-US Border Convention 1930 to the British respectively. In the end, Sulu has nothing. Thirdly, PH claims North Borneo (Sabah) is null and void. For any colonized colony that seeks independence, the territory (sovereignty) is based on what has been given by their colonizer. In this regard, the principle of uti posseditis juris is applicable, acceptable, and recognized internationally. PH got their independence from the US in 1946 and under this principle, there is NO North Borneo. Rebut with facts and references. Not hearsay. The UN has recognized Sabah in Malaysia since 1963.
@@Gangly_arms How could you say they're ignoring? They fought the case filed by Sultan of Sulu (NOT by PH government) in Europe. The Sultanate lost the case. Why pursue Sabah? PH and Malaysia have been enjoying good relationship for decades. There is no point in stirring.
Philippine can’t fight for Sultan Sulu claim, any involvement of Philippines on Sultan Sulu claim is self destruction for Philippines. Philippines is seating on the land that Sultan sulu empire. So any attempt of Philippines claim on Sabah will mean Philippines should be call kingdom of sulu and all the Filipino were servant to the monarchy of Sultan Sulu. Philippines come from naming to King Philip of Spain who invaded Sultan Sulu at land of current Philippine at !!!! And not Sabah.
ask malaysia to pay the rent
Meaning the people who were boarding live on the land have got independence thru the private land of other ?
Sulu/PH needs to resolve 3 legal aspects before making any claim on Sabah from Malaysia. Firstly, Sulu needs to show undisputable proof that earlier, the Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu as a gift for assisting in Brunei’s civil war. This is to rebuke the existence of the 29/12/1877 agreement (consisting of 4 agreements) signed by the Brunei Sultanate that grants the whole of North Borneo to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). These agreements exist and are kept at the National Archives in London. The word “grant” has been used, and it has never been challenged or protested by Brunei, even when the British turned North Borneo into a British Charter (1881), Protectorate (1888), Colony (1946), and finally British Parliament under the Malaysia Act 1963 incorporate it into Malaysia. Secondly, let's assume North Borneo belongs to Sulu. The Sultanate of Sulu signed many agreements to relinquish his territories and dependencies (including North Borneo) to the colonizers. These include the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement with Spain on 22/7/1878 and the Carpenter Agreement on 22/3/1915 with the US. Later Spain and the US relinquished North Borneo under the Madrid Protocol of 1885 and Anglo-US Border Convention 1930 to the British respectively. In the end, Sulu has nothing. Thirdly, PH claims North Borneo (Sabah) is null and void. For any colonized colony that seeks independence, the territory (sovereignty) is based on what has been given by their colonizer. In this regard, the principle of uti posseditis juris is applicable, acceptable, and recognized internationally. PH got their independence from the US in 1946 and under this principle, there is NO North Borneo. Rebut with facts and references. Not hearsay. The UN has recognized Sabah in Malaysia since 1963.
@@hopelope1703 Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
@@hopelope1703Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu of Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
@@KyliJinx
Keep on dreaming for lifetime. Nomore goodwill token will be given to now categorised as terr0r!ist by MY in eurpoean courts. 😊
@@KyliJinx read the latest news, MY didnt give anything since 2013 and still won in courts.
Think why, you garbage eater 😂
Sabah always for Malaysia
Its 2024 , Philipines should be focusing more on naming their country a proper name, not Philipines (The People of King's Philip II of Spain) or the slave for the westerner. Sabah is a state in the Federation of Malaysia based on the decision of the Cobbold Commission 1961
Sabah, Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
You keep on dreaming
@@hopelope1703 Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu of Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
@@hopelope1703 Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu of Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
@@hopelope1703Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu of Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾..
@@KyliJinx Did you see any celebration in PH if Sulu won the case? Is there any Sulu billionaires around? The news has been published internationally as well as in PH itself. Check the latest in 2023. These are a few.
The Manila Times: Dutch court rules against sultan's heirs
AlJazeera: Malaysia hails ‘victory’ in row with Sulu sultan’s Filipino heirs
Philippine Star: French court upholds Malaysia’s challenge vs $15-B award to Sulu heirs
Reuters: Spain charges arbitrator who awarded $15 billion to sultan's heirs in Malaysia dispute
Reuters: Malaysia says Luxembourg court sets aside request to enforce $15 bln arbitration award
Bloomberg: Malaysia Wins Court Fight Over Sulu Heirs’ $15 Billion Award
What undisputable evidence do you have that Sabah belongs to Sulu/PH?
I love sabah philipines
You can keep on dreaming
i love sabah malaysia
Sabah Sarawak will always be brothers. No one can separate them.
What should I say as an Indonesian? Both country Malaysia and the Philippines are Indonesian brothers
@@user-pt1rw4sx6t makan is eat, but why is that? 😅
For me it's up to Sabahan to choose and the choice is obvious here: No one want to join Philippines.
For Philippines, they definitely don't need another land and initiating this claimed just bring tension over already peaceful SEA region. It was a lost fight for Philippines. Sabah never part of Philippines and Sabahan never been Philippines. They probably want an easy money from Malaysia and try to find a loose end in historical record while they denied China claimed over South China Sea over historical record.
Even though Philippines get Sabah then what happen next? People probably move out from that, they can't develop Sabah as their own country already had more problem than it was already is. Tbh, Sabah is indeed rich in natural resources but still one of the poorest state in Malaysia compare to their neighbor Sarawak. And it currently struggle with million of stateless people. It is not even worth it in my opinion. Malaysia ofc will fight for it.
This will probably end with three things:
1. Malaysia will win anyway. International court would find the claim a bit crazy.
2. Referendum with Sabahan people will be made: they definitely don't want Philiphines.
3. Philippines win? They will try to get payment from Malaysia, ofc Malaysia will not do it, they can't afford it in fact. War is possibilities but no one want that. But the chance are very low. No one in their right mind would give a large chunk of land that had been part of country for 60 years to another country overnight. People will get tired of this and eventually forget about thus. Except a few overproud Pangako Sayo people
@@blamiauniverse5912 Sabahan does not own Sabah. The Sultan of Sulu and his heirs are the rightful owners of Sabah. They are the ones who decide.
@@blamiauniverse5912 You are in favor of land grabbing and you are a land grabber too. Shame on you.
CHINA NEVER HAD A HISTORICAL IN WEST PH SEA. EARLY 1900 CHINESE MAPS SHOW THAT HAINAN WAS D SOUTHRNMOST PART OF CHINA, NOT WEST PHIL SEA, NOT SOUTH CHINA SEA, NOT EVEN TAIWAN WHILE 17TH CENTURY PH AND EUROPEAN MAPS SHOW THEY'RE PART OF THE PH. GEOGRAPHICALLY, HISTORICALLY& LEGALLY, CHINA D THIEF HASNO BUSINESS IN PH WATERS.
CHINA'S TERRITORIAL CLAIMS OF WEST PH SEA ALONG WITH OTHER ASIAN TERRITORIES ARE AS FAKE AS THEIR MAN MADE ISLANDS BUILT IN PH WATERS. CHINA'S CLAIMS ARE AS UNRELIABLE AS THEIR WORLD FAMOUS, POOR QUALITY MADE IN CHINA PRODUCTS. PH IS SO UNFORTUNATE TO HAVE MANY NEIGHBOR THIEVES.
At last! Someone just spitting the real facts! 🎉
@@mic030465Philippines are not belong to the Philippines people Bangbang Marcos and his corrupt government are the rightful owners of Philippines....They are the one who decide
Sabah belongs to the Philippines in its entirety and that is a fact.!!
Mabuhay 🇵🇭 💪
not entirety but just norther part of sabah
sabah is originally owned by brunei. but we dont know brunei's history with the north borneo company
In your dream. Philippines like to create crap.
No thanks. We rather die then downgrading ourself to join Philippines. SABAH MALAYSIA 🇲🇾
Sulu Island, Jolo Island should be to Malaysia Muslim. North Malaysia Sea. Sarawak - Sabah was belonging to Brunei . Malaysian never scare to war with. Winner takes all. Malaysia - Indonesia war in 1964.
Halahh kalo tidak ada British udah ancur malaydes tu@@rexteo8062
Why didn’t the author claim that the Philippines owned the US or Russia or China? They have a bigger land mass and more natural resources.
I have to say this, while Philippines have been steadily increasing its military strength through state of the art weaponry, Msia is plagued by scandals after scandals with billions lost. The recent AGs report is evident of this. Msia is now behind most of its neighbours. And Philippines is challenging Msia's sovereignty over Sabah😂😂😂Good luck to Msia!
Thet are calling israel as land grabber, meanwhile they are landgrabbing also
U lose land when u start a war n lose
Fact check the truth .Sabah is Philippines..Read resesrch more to.understans the truth about this matters.Truth.snd justice matterd
I agree to disagree.
Sabah _used_ to be the Philippines territory during Diosdado Macapagal's rule. However the UN did recognize the state as part of Malaysia now. So unless we want to be colonizers like Spain, Sabah will always be part of Malaysia.
Lemme know if I missed anything. I would love to hear about your insights.
And you're right, truth and justice mattered the most. Importante talaga ang katotohanan at hustisya para sa lahat ng mga tao.
doesnt work that way dude. it is up to the colonizer to give independence.. riau islands and large parts of sumatera originally belongs to malacca and johor sultanate, but later divided by the colonizer, some goes to british,some goes to dutch, so after independence, riau and sumatera goes to indonesia(dutch) instead of returned to johor/malacca
Sultan sulu never owned Sabah he only claimed Sabah but never visited Sabah because he was afraid of headhunters during that time
current time too.he's even afraid of 50cents syiling..lmao
🇺🇸🇲🇨🇵🇭 SABAH Philippines 💪💪
Mabuhay soon Sabah will eat Pagpag as what they are afraid of heheehehe
Sabah is belong to Malaysian..
because?
Sabah is belong to Sabahan
In your wildest imagination
Ibalik ang sabah sa pinas
Truth Be Told, the real owners of SABAH are the Sabah people, and they want to be an integral part of Malaysia, and the PH must accept this as fact on the ground.
Who is the real owner of America : Red Indian. Who is the real owner of Singapore ; Malaysia. Who is the real owner of Pattani / Hadtyai: ?
Im sabahan.. we dont want become pinoy.. poor them.. yeachhh..
I’m a Sabahan, I would rather be with Malaysia than the Philippines
Sabahans belong to Sabah
Facts don't care about your feelings!
Then leave
@@ASi-qe2lv you leave...Stop claim the place doesn't belong to you
True....
How much the rent ?
Give Sabah their Independence.
Welcome to SABAH, PHILIPPINES
What is your evidence?
@@hopelope1703 your face is my evidence that you don't own Sabah hehe
@@johndolforbe-vm9sx Your respond indicate that you do not have the answer.
Welcome to the downgrade
Sabah belong to sultan of Sulo, and be part of Rep. of the Phil..
What is your evidence?
@@hopelope1703 Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu of Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
@@hopelope1703 Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu of Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
@@hopelope1703Malaysin pay the Sulu Sultan RM5,300 per year as “cession money” because there is a court judgement awarded in favour of the Sulu of Sultanate
malaydesh🤣🤣👉🧠💩👈🇲🇾🇲🇾
Sabah doesn't even want to join you lmao
Philippines is the rightful owner of Sabah.
Sulu Island, Jolo Island should be to Malaysia Muslim. North Malaysia Sea. Sarawak - Sabah was belonging to Brunei . Malaysian never scare to war with Sulu / Phino. Winner takes all. Malaysia - Indonesia war in 1964.
The original date for announcing the entry of Sarawak, North Borneo (Sabah) and Singapore was 31 August 1963 to match the date of independence in the Peninsula. However, due to some objections from the Philippines and Indonesia, the Chairman of the United Nations at the time, U-Thant had boarded a plane from New York to Sabah to personally ask the wishes of the leaders and people of Sabah. It must be understood that aircraft technology in the past was not the same as it is today where U-Thant aircraft had to stop and stop at several locations before reaching Sabah so when returning to New York to confirm Sabah's position in Malaysia. Because of that, the date of entry of Sarawak, North Borneo (Sabah) and Singapore was made public on 16 September 1963. In short, Sabah's independence and participation in Malaysia was recognized by the United Nations and it is no longer in doubt. If they don't agree, the Philippines can take the same action as Seokarno by taking Indonesia out of the United Nation and inviting China and Russia to invade Malaysia. But the war in 1963-65 ended with the defeat of Indonesia and the General of the Indonesian Army at that time Seoharto seized power and arrested Seokarno.
Historical Context: Sep 2nd 1945 the instrument of surrendered, Japanese occpational lands surrendered to china. After World War II, Japan's territories, including those in the South China Sea, were surrendered. The Republic of China (ROC) then claimed some of these territories based on historical rights. When the People's Republic of China (PRC) was established in 1949, it continued these claims.
Kinabalu has got a Red flag.
lol. Sabahan's bow down to your owners. Sultanate of Sulu.
sabah will be independent nation
Sabah belongs to the Philippines
Walang pag alinlangan,tayo mapa document oh mapa literal.
SABAH WOULD BE SEPARETED FROM MALAYSIA TO BE AN INDEPEDENT..COUNTRY..
Need to look into 1877 agreement with Brunei that was make earlier before agreement of 1878. Might bring the answer there.
There are four (4) agreements that exist between Brunei Sultanate grant and cede North Borneo to British North Borneo Company (BNBC) dated 29/12/1877. Below is just one of the examples.
Just type “Grant by the Sultan of Brunei of territories from Paitan to Sibuku River. These are…”. Go and check the Sabah State Government Website or UK Government Website (National Archives) for the details of the agreement.
Land and people as a gift..? What the....... 😮😢
that is why malaysia protest the extension of wps coz it might involve the sabah.
Who ever recognise the sultan of sulu
Sultan of sulu berkuasa in North Borneo only
Lagi best kalau 2wilaya ini tidak masuk campur ke Sabah,
Biarlah Sabah mentadbir sendiri kan lagilah best❤😊
Sabah territory Gift from Brunie to Philippines..,
Show evidence.
Sabah belong in the Philippines history.
What is your evidence?
Islam is Philippines history too..how about you guys mass reverting to Islam, your religion before spain came.huhu
Does Malaysia understand this? if not just pack your bag and leave or else your RENT IS DUE PERIOD
If you called it rent, where is the agreement between Sulu and Malaysia? If none, it is just like what pirates and mafia do for a living. Why in the 1878 agreement, was Malaysia not mentioned? Is there any clause in the 1878 agreement that Malaysia has the responsibility to continue paying Sulu? Why do the receipts in Sulu's possession not mention the money is for the rent? Why is the amount so small and not what has been stipulated in the agreement? One Mexican gold dollar (coins) in 1878 weighed 1.7 grams of gold. So, 5300 X 1.7/1000 = 9.01 kg of gold. Compare the value of 5300 Malaysian dollars to 9 kg of gold. Giving away money is not an offense. Can give or stop giving any time.
It is a lease and malaysia fail to pay the lease….so the agreement broken by malaysia ….so the lease ended and Sabah is not longer part of malaysia because you fail to pay the lease
owners of a land changes with time.Spain and US, both owned the Philippines at one time.
The owner of Sabah is Borneo but because it was given by Borneo to the Sultan of Sulu it become a Philippine Territory
Sulu’s ownership of Sabah can be disputed. Because Brunei Sultanate (original owner) granted North Borneo (Sabah) to BNBC dated 29/12/1877. Much earlier than the 1878 agreement. How can it belong to Sulu if Brunei can give it away? Sulu Sultanate relinquished its territories to the Spanish under the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement on 22/7/1878. Sulu has nothing left. Thus the 1878 Sulu-BNBC Agreement dated 22/1/1878 is null and void. The cession of Sabah from Sulu to PH in 1962 is invalid.
It belongs to the philippines
interesting but what in the AI is this? julie 4, phili PINE, toowee toowee. also remove the annoying background music.
Malaysia must pay the lease
Where is the agreement?
Philippines wants to claim Sabah must first ready to provide Sabahans than what Malaysia have ( i doubt they do so )
i ❤ SaBah sultan of sulo
The ownership of Sabah by Sulu can be disputable. Because Brunei Sultanate (original owner) granted North Borneo (Sabah) to BNBC dated 29/12/1877. Much earlier than the 1878 agreement. How can it belong to Sulu if Brunei can give it away? Sulu Sultanate relinquished its territories to the Spanish under the Bases of Peace and Capitulation Agreement on 22/7/1878. Sulu has nothing left. Thus the 1878 Sulu-BNBC Agreement dated 22/1/1878 is null and void. The cession of Sabah from Sulu to PH in 1962 is invalid.
Part of Sabah is not part of malaysia because of the history
how can you claim a independent country. NORTH BORNEO(SABAH) gain independent on 31August1963.
Hope, sabah join Indonesia..
Sabah is malaysia N malaysia is sabahan
Wait Malaysia sabah back to Philippine..
SABAH was own by Sultanate Of Sulu named JAMALUL KIRAM III ..,she is a FILIPINO CITIZEN,so therefore technically it’s own by Philippines 🇵🇭..,asked the SULTANATE OF BRUNIE ,he will explained you details by details.
Ha ha ha ha. The onus is on Kirams to show evidence that Brunei Sultanate (original owner) gave Sabah to Sulu as a gift. Then what you say is true. Not we should ask Brunei about it. What a joke!!!