MainMan: devil jin is nerfed he is no longer playable. Momo with dj: I beg your pardon? Edit: No hate to main man or Momo all I am trying to say that is even with devil jin's nerf's its not stopping Momo from taking his crazy jin to the higher level GG to bot players and MASKU
Considering that Momodog is one of the best mishimas and MainMan is nowhere near one of the best mishimas, and MainMan was dominating this set, yes, that means DVJ is nerfed too much.
It's always nice to watch a match in which the players respect each other and time runs out because of technical play and not turtling. At Bushin and below, players do not stop pressing buttons. Like at all.
Do you think that despite Devil Jin’s nerfs, that he can still be playable? I think Momo’s making Devil Jin work and you gotta admire someone’s character loyalty to still make a character look good and OP, despite being weakened.
Dude of course Devil Jin is still playable. Sure he might be bottom 10 or bottom 5 but in THIS game being at the bottom means you're still playable, still somewhat strong with EWGF and hellsweep, still perfecttly functional. Just takes 10x the effoet to make him work
I was reading the comments on this other video, and there was a fella that was convinced that Devil Jin’s demon paw was busted and overpowered pre nerf lol.
@@noshgaming They did a set and Qudans beat him lol. They are back and forth taking #1 in leaderboards though. In all honesty, if you wanna talk about fundamentals and not the gimmick setups, i think Qudans is a scary mf when it comes to playing classic Devil Jin style. Dude is just a menace when it comes to pokes and incoming hellsweeps everytime.
crazy to watch the amount of respect they have just standing in each others face not taking actions for a second. In my rank purple, people are hardcore mashing.
@@lilq34567890 yeah fought some 200k rated people and they’re too fluid with it. Exciting to see a fighting game with such a high skill ceiling. So many options.
I like that there is another one of these sets that was played except Momo-dog won that one. I'm a huge fan of both Devil Jin and Kazuya and these two play peak versions of each. Very nice. 👌
why does momo and qudans use b2,3 in neutral so much? its a HIGH mid string. 14:50 momo uses this string in neutral and loses 50% he then spring kicks...... AND DOES B2,3 IMMEDIATELY AGAIN??? gets counterhit by 1,1,2 because its i14... its a bad string to use in neutral but i see djs doing it i feel like im taking crazy pills
It's almost impossible to duck, is only ducked upon luck. They spam it in heat only cuz it's a heat extender upon pressing forward after the input. It also does a lot of chip damage if blocked. Anyone who manages to duck the first hit doesn't really see it coming, they just chance it.
Not just a Godly DJ but a godly Tekken player in general. This guys fundamentals and timing are ultra instinct level 11;30 right after I typed that LMAO
I need help, suggestions, Should i continue hwaroang rank up and learn about him more and cuz hes cool or change to yoshimitsu cuz he's cool and all and interested
He did Kazuya dittos with Knee in 7 and almost took a few games, very close matches, and took a few games off Arslan in 8. he's the best non pro you're likely to play against in ranked.
The difference. though is you can play more than one characters a lot of these Streamers only play one character maybe two or three That takes a lot of skill, especially at that type of level.
19:16 count the amount of b4 MMS did in this set to counter SSL .. The answer is ZERO !! MMS complains a lot without utilizing all the moves and tools the character has
Maybe? In a Tekken 8 sense perhaps. Devil Jin was basically the same since Tekken 5-7 in terms of strategy and gameplay but now he is quite different with his new tools. They want you to use his new kit based on the changed moves so for Qudan’s old habits die hard. It would be better to not have DVJ experience and start fresh with this version. If they never changed and “adjusted” what they did before the heat smash nerf then I think that Momo would no doubt be the strongest DVJ player that we know of.
ggs I live inside your walls
ty for showing me the triple WS3 combo route
Aaayoooo
LMAOOO
So THAT'S why you know how to block his 50/50
Pls live inside my walls too 😳👌🏻
im convinced that the devs only look at momodog and qudans matches, thats the only logical explanation for the constant dvj nerfs
MainMan: devil jin is nerfed he is no longer playable.
Momo with dj: I beg your pardon?
Edit: No hate to main man or Momo all I am trying to say that is even with devil jin's nerf's its not stopping Momo from taking his crazy jin to the higher level GG to bot players and MASKU
Considering that Momodog is one of the best mishimas and MainMan is nowhere near one of the best mishimas, and MainMan was dominating this set, yes, that means DVJ is nerfed too much.
@@ex_ploit3529maybe mainman is getting much better and people keep underrating him?
While MainMan is a really good player there's no shame in admitting that the patch definitely makes a difference in their matches
Character specialist can make any character look op, thats the beauty of fighting games and Tekken shines at it
You are disrespecting Main Man he is definitely one of the best Kazuya players in this world@@ex_ploit3529
some of the best and fastest mishima gameplay i've ever seen
Yo boogard
love your videos dude keep it up 💪
Remember on your video how I commented on Devil Jin getting witch hunted? Swe manifested it
Just watching you lol
The Oldest Kazuya In History vs The Strongest Devil Jin Of Today 🚬🗿
Yooo Mr OmniMan didn't know you played Tekken. Who do you main?
Drop a get jacked liked the mishimas
@@slieza9113working on it
how old is ryan hart vs tmm again? genuinely curious, not a contest
@@BaldOmniManhell yea
I really miss Devil Jin's morning crow crossup
It made zero sense but it just looked so COOL
Ferrari tech
Best looking crossup ever
I love seeing character specialist be creative with their characters. Momo, Richie, eye, Trizzy, CodeRed, Haze/imortal/Pinya etc.
It's always nice to watch a match in which the players respect each other and time runs out because of technical play and not turtling. At Bushin and below, players do not stop pressing buttons. Like at all.
Punisment and counterhits with sidesteps destroy up to Fujin
tekken doesn’t start till bushin
watching this i learned like 10 different things to do with dvj
Same bro can’t wait to hop in ranked
I have watched Main Man since his reviews on older tekken games and this is one of the best matches I have ever seen on the channel
12:13 the range 😮
Bro ima be honest, main man is one handsome dude for his age
Edit: didn’t need it to get biologically and regionally specific ☠️☠️
I'd do some things to TMM.
fr
How old is tmm?
40
In his 30's I believe?(I might be super wrong)
2:14 this was a thing of beauty from Momo.
Insane comeback that final match. Jaw dropping 22:00 22:50
Yeah I though main man was gonna job there
@@BaldOmniManthe comeback in that round seemed to have taken Momodog's soul for the rest of the rounds. Post a video of you playing bro😂
@@JuliusCaesar103I might start live streaming soon
6:18 This is Lore Accurate
Do you think that despite Devil Jin’s nerfs, that he can still be playable?
I think Momo’s making Devil Jin work and you gotta admire someone’s character loyalty to still make a character look good and OP, despite being weakened.
Dude of course Devil Jin is still playable. Sure he might be bottom 10 or bottom 5 but in THIS game being at the bottom means you're still playable, still somewhat strong with EWGF and hellsweep, still perfecttly functional. Just takes 10x the effoet to make him work
Still strong before the nerf he was ridiculousy strong.
@@S0M3GUY778bottom 5? lmao. He got nerfed he didn't get destroyed. He's still not bad
Hes of course playable. But like mainman said right now hes the least rewarding characters from the effort you put to play him
@@S0M3GUY778 bottom 5 is crazy
15:27
That wing actually belongs to the crow customisation that's next to DVJ.
2 mans of culture meet. That fight was a puuure pleasure to watch, nice ending MainMan.
4:50 that rushdown finish was wild to watch
2:13 Staaahhhp Momo they're gonna take away the last thing we have
7:02 What a beautiful round
14:31 Another great round
🔥🔥 wanted to timestamp these exact rounds
12:35 is when he said enough of the bs 😂
Devil Jin didnt deserve the nerfs. He's a damn Mishima. He's hard to play. So why make him worse?
I was reading the comments on this other video, and there was a fella that was convinced that Devil Jin’s demon paw was busted and overpowered pre nerf lol.
@@BaldOmniMan fitting name. Also he should check out Jin Reina and Kazuya, his world is going to turn upside down.
@@BaldOmniManthere's no way he literally had the WORST one lmao
Imo they should've kept the pushback
@BaldOmniMan probably someone who is salty that their azucena got nerfed
@@BaldOmniManif he knew hes playing 3d game, if he knew kazuya demon paw his mind will be blown
Alternative title: “F it, we ball” Fights Tekken Vampire
Fix Devil Jin, ninja 🥷
Best in the world is ridiculous. Qudans would like a word.
Qudans is easily second best but I am sorry his dvj isn't as good as momo's right now.
would like to see the matchup
"the best devil jin in history vs the strongest devil jin of today"
bro said one of not THE
@@noshgaming They did a set and Qudans beat him lol. They are back and forth taking #1 in leaderboards though. In all honesty, if you wanna talk about fundamentals and not the gimmick setups, i think Qudans is a scary mf when it comes to playing classic Devil Jin style. Dude is just a menace when it comes to pokes and incoming hellsweeps everytime.
Momo is godlike. But until he wins a twt or evo, qudans is the best. He has the achievements to back it up
crazy to watch the amount of respect they have just standing in each others face not taking actions for a second. In my rank purple, people are hardcore mashing.
Lmfao u think purple fun wait till u get to blue🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️
@@lilq34567890 yeah fought some 200k rated people and they’re too fluid with it. Exciting to see a fighting game with such a high skill ceiling. So many options.
They playing small tekken a lot, trying to force whiffs and see what the other's habits like when they duck or mash
Counterhits into high damage combos make people relax
Great comeback TMM
7:19 can’t believe momo do that on pad
2:04 he looked so annoyed when bro start wave dashing 😭😭
thought it was Qudans for a sec
Mishima dad gets read by rebeling son????
I like that there is another one of these sets that was played except Momo-dog won that one. I'm a huge fan of both Devil Jin and Kazuya and these two play peak versions of each. Very nice. 👌
why does momo and qudans use b2,3 in neutral so much? its a HIGH mid string. 14:50 momo uses this string in neutral and loses 50% he then spring kicks...... AND DOES B2,3 IMMEDIATELY AGAIN??? gets counterhit by 1,1,2 because its i14... its a bad string to use in neutral but i see djs doing it i feel like im taking crazy pills
It's almost impossible to duck, is only ducked upon luck. They spam it in heat only cuz it's a heat extender upon pressing forward after the input. It also does a lot of chip damage if blocked. Anyone who manages to duck the first hit doesn't really see it coming, they just chance it.
If it starts with a high and the second hit is a mid, it will be hard to react to
Devil Jin is so barebones that he has to do weird risks like throwing out that move. That’s how bad Devil Jin is rn.
Please do more videos of you fighting really strong players!
21:43 and 22:08 is why we dvj mains think dvj is trash
Wtf is that?
Hitbox hello
Great set!! , *Momodog* (Nerf- devil jin) vs *Mainmanswe* (Buff- Kazuya mishima)
nigkah this video was posted 6 minutes ago
Now that's a lore-accurate fight
4:30 nice wavu wavu
Not just a Godly DJ but a godly Tekken player in general. This guys fundamentals and timing are ultra instinct level
11;30 right after I typed that LMAO
A throw? Anywhere? Kind of amazing to see so many flurries of fists with barely a throw. Wild stuff.
2:12 That combo 😮
would be a a shame if some random replay channel would have already uploaded this.
Mainman dont let other people use ur stream shit
Dude you do see the irony in this right?
“MainAdRevenueSwe”
momodog is so cool. Doesnt quit djin no matter what
@themainmanswe what stick are you using big fan of your content btw
Second time see momo! Thanks for sharing the set
I gotta figure how to do that f,f,f 3 without doing morning crow by accident.
What should I do as a Jin player when someone blocks my heat smash because I can’t do the mix up from wave dash because it +3 frames
11:00 is that a throw from stance?
Yes but you can only do it in heat (it's DvJ's other heat smash), unbreakable throw
question, why is TMM not doing back 2 4 downfoward 2 at the wall ?
Great set
i thought tmm gonna play dvj on that thumbnail but i guess i will never see that concept anymore..
When I read the Best Devil Jin, I thought it was Qudans.
This guys the reason DVJ keeps getting nerfed lol
15:57 this is why kazs HS is better than DJ anyday, look at that fucking scenario lmfao.
I think momo cracked the code on how to play DJ in this patch
the sweatiness of those controllers
Saw videos of Knee playing Kazuya after the patch. Will we see him play Kaz in tourney?
@@GTJD111 Good point
00:48 phid L x is like a condom brand 😂
what was up with some of these drops
Momo is the last one standing, even Qudans switched to Kazuya recently.
14:50 momo was getting in that bag
How many flash punch? Yes
I need help, suggestions, Should i continue hwaroang rank up and learn about him more and cuz hes cool or change to yoshimitsu cuz he's cool and all and interested
Both characters don't need fundamentals
Just play the game
I'd say give Yoshi a try and then go back to hwo, it's not like if you start playing someone else you can't go back right?
Mishima power
Is Devil Jin g.o.d. rank happening anytime soon?
I would like to see BTSJIN fighting FT5 with The MainManSWE! How to make that happen? 😊
Yo guys im pretty new to tekken and i was wondering, how good is tmm compared to the top pros like knee, ak, etc.?
he is a casual to pros.
But an outstanding player.
He did Kazuya dittos with Knee in 7 and almost took a few games, very close matches, and took a few games off Arslan in 8. he's the best non pro you're likely to play against in ranked.
*i also believe momo contacted knee to do some battles*
Yea knee and the other koreans destroyed him tho
he's still loyal to his main
What the song on the first stage
How tfk this man is turning 39 next year!!!
dvj now is kinda like T7 kaz, kaz had mediocre mids while dvj has horrible lows aside from hellsweep
The difference.
though is you can play more than one characters a lot of these Streamers only play one character maybe two or three That takes a lot of skill, especially at that type of level.
As much as i love you mainman, you got your ass kicked up down left and right. GG
Didn’t he win with a 3:5 difference?
Wasn't his name MomoDog before!
19:16 count the amount of b4 MMS did in this set to counter SSL ..
The answer is ZERO !!
MMS complains a lot without utilizing all the moves and tools the character has
main man swe here
i do have to agree momo is the best dvj in the game. besides qudans
after that intro i cant keep defending the old man allegations tmm....
I don't like devil Jin but big support to my German guy 💪
Quants is the best devil job player by a mile.
Oh so sadly not actually the oldest kazuya though... 😭
You just fought momonosuke
Momo the legend
Damn.... pushing tmm so far that he had to use rage art? Against a dvj?? Momodog is so good
momodog is my goat
MMS is good, but the DJ nerfs are too much. DJ's pemon paw is almost unusable.
I tought quadans was the best devil jin player but well ..momo is close to that too
Phiddledix LOL. Its Phidx
Mom look! I'm on TV! lol
Hey someone commented to his last video say I won and there saying that they are mainmanswe for a giveaway was a scam he was trying really hard
Bro please... momodawg is still a nobody in the competitive scene, he is on the same level as PhiDX lmao
Damn.
Is Momodog stronger than Qudans?
We can say that but qudan still using Tekken 7 devil jin play style And Momo dog is very aggressive
Maybe? In a Tekken 8 sense perhaps. Devil Jin was basically the same since Tekken 5-7 in terms of strategy and gameplay but now he is quite different with his new tools. They want you to use his new kit based on the changed moves so for Qudan’s old habits die hard. It would be better to not have DVJ experience and start fresh with this version. If they never changed and “adjusted” what they did before the heat smash nerf then I think that Momo would no doubt be the strongest DVJ player that we know of.
nah not yet, Qudans has won tournaments with dvj
momodog is good but the best dvj player in the world title has to go to Qudans
Gut 😆
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This dj perfectly explains why tier lists are useless...i like a charachter, i am skilled, i learn the charachter and make it work. That's it.
Hello
Momo is one of the best dvj but never the best dvj😂