Woodworking Tricks You'll Actually Use || How to Scribe to an Uneven Wall
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Love the upside down jigsaw tip. Another tip for using the jigsaw... angle the blade a bit so you also produce a sharper edge to meet the wall (like you did with the table saw). It is then easy to adjust the edge with some minor sanding.
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Sadly that site does not seem to work anymore.
The general scribing information that I needed to learn. Cheers!
I had to scribe for a shelf in an old telephone nook and used plastic folders as template material and a washer and pencil as my scribe on the rough plaster walls. It worked good but playing cards would’ve been easier. Thanks for the tips Jason!
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Glad to see you're back.
You are awesome dude!!
I have a great trip, watch your scribing video!
Nicely done ... thanks!
Thanks! Some top tips there.
Great video! Any tips for fitting a piece that needs scribed on both ends? Nailing length adds a whole new obstacle. Thanks!
Make templates of each side out of plywood
Missed opportunity there.. CAD = Cardboard Aided Design!
Nice options and another great video. However; isn't it necessary to make sure the front of your cabinet is vertical before you scribe especially with a bowed wall?
Great video. Why use play cards when you can just put the piece over the other piece and draw the lines with a pen. What am I missing
This was only for instruction to illustrate the technique. In a real situation that would be trim mounted to a wall with no way to place the piece on top.
Does using your drill bit in a carpenter pencil ever scratch the wall you’re scribing to? Maybe throw down some masking tape on the wall before you scribe?
Link to "our" patreon??? I thought you did all this work by yourself? Lol
I liked how you de-scribed this
It was a bit sketchy at times😉
It was well outlined though
You win.
@@handymadness given your name I’m more than to share this epic victory with you
@@mattyallwood ha ha! Yessir! I gotta give props where props are due. Best comment. Blessings you you brother.
Can you tear the wall down and re-build it to be square, plumb and flat?
You’d have to do your entire house if you wanted all square plumb and flat walls. None of them are any of those lol.
Drill bit through the pencil sure looks easier than holding a washer in place. I'll have to try this out. Nice job as always sir.
For the playing card trick. I use post-it’s instead with the sticky side towards the wall. So no glue needed there. And when the edges you’re scribing to aren’t straight, you can just have post-it overlap a little onto the wall, trace it with a utility knife to cut the exact shape. Stick it onto your board and done.
Where those lil mini post-it's can come in handy too, which is cheaper than the playing cards, can be re-used too. Love it thanks!
Good stuff! I had always used the pencil itself or washer trick ( I keep a bunch of different sized washers on a keychain) for scribing. I'll have to try out your other methods for sure.
I think you just described the method I'm going to use for scribing my mouldy caravan walls tomorrow! I can picture the washer working really well, rolling down the angled walls. Thanks!
Yup the washer trick is great.
One other idea for scribing - if you don't have too much variation to the wall surface (IE: Stone, Brick), you can put a washer, or a dowel with a hole drilled through it, over your pencil. It acts like a roller and moves smoothly with your pencil.
That will cause sharp corners on tne profile to get rounded. Doesnt work
I love the tips. I’ve done this and didn’t even know it lol. I’ll suggest instead of cards, a contour gauge. I got one to do my flooring and it was the best $15 I spent during that project.
As he says - tricks you’ll actually use. That is always true with these videos. Always learn something practical and useful. Good stuff.
Never thought about turning my jigsaw upside down. Great idea. Going to give it a try next time. Thanks for all of the great videos. Keep up the good work!
I did this with an electric planer for a makeshift jointer. Turned put better than I thought so I tried with a jigsaw and so far it gets the job done. Hope it works for you too
Most professional jigsaws are designed to be used that way.
They also make blades that the teeth are reversed. Little more spendy, but worth it when you don't want to splinter that finished piece
Jason, This is an extremally helpful video. Thank you so much for this. I have done a couple of shelving jobs like in pantries or coat closets where I have to scribe 3 walls (the back wall and both sides) I believe it is called an alcove. I have used a few different methods just what I have figured out on my own. they did not always work out as good as I had hoped. There are few if any detailed videos on scribing. Thank you again for this video these are all awesome and useful tips. You sir are a talented craftsman. Hats off to you.
This is the best tutorial session on scribing that I have seen, you've answered a lot of questions for me. I randomly DIY around the house and it's always a challenge to get pieces to fit nicely in a mobile home. Talk about seasonal changes, how 'bout when the whole damn place moves! Your last tip was great, "check the walls and scribe BEFORE the finished product is completed." Thanks for sharing, and SHOWING how it's done. This gets added to my top 3 "get smart" videos. Thank you very much.
Great videos. I have a questions about some of your builds in other videos. LIke the entertainment unit, are you using lumber from, like, Home depot or the expensive stuff like Russian baltic birch?
I'm trying to scribe a small roughly 6"x6"x1" block to go behind a porch light on clapboard siding. The awkward part is figuring out how to cut the profile since it's not like a board and both sides may not have the same profile; there may be a knot or warp on one side the other doesn't have.
Thanks, Jason. Great video, my friend. I have always made this so much more complicated than it needs to be. Thanks for simplifying the process for me.
Felix
Never thought I could watch a nearly 30 minute video on scribing and be 100% into it the entire time. Nice work. You're a great teacher and your tips are always straightforward, clear, and easy to follow. Thank you for your videos.
Completely agree. I can’t make it 3 minutes on a video normally but this was a joy to watch for the whole half hour
Wholeheartedly 💯 agree
@@Paul-vu5bolol I usually set the play back speed to 1.75 or 2 but with his I don't adjust. He stays for the most part on topic and gives many tips based upon his own experience, which I personally appreciate!
Excellent video!! I’m a 71 yr. young female in the middle of building out a campervan. This video is EXACTLY what I was looking for. I will soon put to use your knowledge and tricks of the trade. Thank you so much! Your explanations and details are just what I need and so easy to follow!! You’re a great teacher!!!!❤
Your 74 brother here. 😉
Great video Jason; heard you on the podcast say that you weren’t sure 30 minutes on scribing would be at all useful. It most certainly was; it’s those tools and tips that you’ve acquired through experience to those of us who don’t have the field experience but get to keep adding to our bag of tricks. Thanks!
Good tips and love the upside down jigsaw one. Unfortunately most tutorials only focus on the end that needs scribing and ignore the real life problems. The last time I had to do this was with kitchen base units where the wall was wavy and the floor wasn't level. So, I had to scribe both sides of a corner while making sure that the top would be level with the worktop and the front would be flush. They were laminated particle boards so I didn't have the luxury of scribing the wall and floor sides then cutting the front and top to the right sizes. The scribe lines couldn't just be a random distance from the edge, but taking material off one edge would also affect the other edge. And that was just in my own kitchen!
Trying to fit a frame between two brick walls. This was exactly what I needed. Thanks for the thorough tutorial. Keep 'em coming! 🙏
Super valuable video, thank you!!
That was the best scribing tutorial I've ever seen! A matter of fact it was the only scribing tutorial I've ever seen! Seriously, very useful and very helpful! Thank you!
With playing cards featuring in your tips and tricks for this and drawer fitting maybe it's time for Bourbon Moth branded playing cards in the webshop. I'd buy some, might be able to afford the import tax on them too. 🤣👍♥️♦️♣️♠️
Great video!! I really enjoyed learning tips and tricks. Thank you.
I'm new to all this woodworking, I agreed to fit my daughters new kitchen! so I'm pretty much learning as I go. I have watched a fair amount of videos on scribing, yours is head & shoulders above others, you have a great way about your presenting as well as the knowledge and skill. You now have another UK subscriber, Thanks🙂
Please address the lack of a workshop, tools, and time issues I’m having.
Dude this takes a hacksaw and two pieces of school supplies at the very least, that's on you
Thanks for the great info. Have used various scribing instruments and styles and your info is spot on. The reason I'm refreshing up on my skills is we've been hired to build cabinets and walls in a 65' Airstream, the ultimate scribing challenge! Massive curves both on both planes:)
My preferred method is to use a hole saw with a diameter of just over twice the width of the largest part of the gap to cut a circular scribe guide. Put a pencil down the middle of the guide hole created with the hole saw (forstner bit down the centre if it's not quite large enough). Using this means that the pencil *shouldn't* be able to wander away up or down like using a compass or the drill bit through the pencil. I use a jigsaw to cut close to the line so I don't have to worry about tearout, then use a handheld belt sander clamped to the bench to cut all the way to the line (if the piece is small enough to move easily, otherwise take the belt sander to the piece clamped down).
Love the tips but it was hard to concentrate starring at that bottle of Michter's on the booze cart!
Love it! Thank you for the drill-bit pencil trick! A "jaggle stick" could also work for the cheater scribe as well.
This helped a ton actually. The one problem that I am dealing with is where to start which I think you alluded to at the end. We are installing a new counter top in-between 2 walls however, Both the sides (length) are different due to not being square (one end is 59 1/2" towards the front while at the back its 60") and then the width (front to back wall) is also not square (26" on the right side, 25 1/2" on the left side). I hope you are still watching this channel cause I could really use some knowledge in which part to do first. The piece we are cutting from is a 26" x 6' piece. What would be a good way for me to tackle this in a manner that will not have me screw up the piece? I am down for creating a template out of plywood for sure. I just need to know or would like some advice on were to start. Thanks!
I think scribing siding is the toughest because if you use a pencil method you will tend to round the edges of the siding ....when i did siding i just took several 1/4 inch strips of cardboard and glued them together while following the siding profile. Thus creating a template i could follow /trace on the the board i was putting against the wall
Be pretty cool if people in your position stopped linking to amazon... Because they are HOT GARBAGE as a company and can swiftly burn to the ground. But i understand theres a small kickback for you etc.
Good video, one of your best. I really like your use of playing cards and will use them more myself in the future. Keep up the great work.
This is all really good, very informative. As others have mentioned the tick-stick approach is also useful for these types of situations. In fact, it will allow you to 'scribe' in behind complex shapes (like a gutter) which have surfaces/faces that are inaccessible to a simple scribe tool.
I'm in process of building my first set of built-in cabinets and I had no idea how to scribe, you video cleared up one of the lingering questions ahead. I loved the video, as others mentioned I never thought I could find a video of that length interesting in its entirety but you nailed it! Thanks!
Can someone explain to me how this doesn’t change the depth of your cabinet? Like when he was scribing the brick it seemed like he took out a huge chunk of the item he was scribing. If that was a cabinet wouldn’t it actually change the depth of the cabinet? I’m guessing you build the cabinet first and don’t do the scribing until you install so how do you prevent changing the depth of the cabinet? I’m sure it’s something simple I’m overlooking but if someone could explain I would appreciate it.
It wasn’t the final width is what I assumed.
You check walls with level, before building custom cabinet and leave extra material for scribing. You cannot do that with pre manufactured cabinets, unless you pay for custom end cabinets or use an ugly filler strip.
@@samsonhorvath3614 ok, I think I understand what you are saying but it still doesn't make sense in my brain. If I need a cabinet to be 30" depth, how do you "leave extra" to get a 30" depth that matches exactly with the next cabinet over. Because with "extra" it might end up being 30.25" so I just don't understand. I'm sure it's something easy I'm just missing.
I'm also wondering why scribe a cabinet to a wall when you will never see it (like kitchen cabinets)? I was thinking people would tell me that with cabinets where you can't see the back that you would just build them to the depth you need and use shims.
My father was a master cabinet builder and one of my great regrets in life is that I didn't have him teach me how to make and install cabinets.
Do your best, caulk the rest!
Anyone else kinda disappointed that he didn’t fall off the table or at least glue a playing card to his head? LOL. Great video. I’ll be needing some of these tricks very soon.
This was one of the most excellent, well articulated and helpful videos I've seen. Period! Over the years I can count using 3 or 4 fingers and still have one or two left over concerning how many times I given a thumbs up. If I had 50 fingers I probably give you most. REALLY good. Thanks al lot!!
Super helpful.
Also while there's nothing wrong with using playing cards and the color probably adds to visibility, it's just laminated card stock. Buying cardstock would probably save time and money.
An old dog's two cents: plastic U-scribe tm jigs to hold piece you're scribing to cabinets; use Porter Cable Model 371K 2x14 one handed belt sander w/ 50 grit paper like abrasive block plane; How Far Out level gauge for point to point out of level/plumb surveys; make easily cut scribing templates from 1/8" hardboard; use yellow masking tape to see scribed lines on dark work pieces; for very detailed brick scribes, three steps - 1) secure work piece so it absolutely won't move; 2) scribe only flat faces of bricks using any simple scribing tool; 3) use small wire finger style contour gauge (e.g., General # 837) to locally detail mortar joints.
Very curious about the MPower Perfect Butt. I'm not joking about that name. Would love to see The Perfect Butt. Now I am half joking. Seems like it would be much more stable than those other types of scribes.
Amazing tutorial. Any tips on how you’d scribe a curved wall? We have a curved wall in our laundry room and I’d love to build a bench that fits perfectly in that spot. Thanks Jason!
Hi there, love your videos and have learnt many things from them.
Do keep them coming. :-)
In my particular case I am trying unsuccesfully to figure out how I can "easily" create the correct curved surface for specifically round posts knee braces.
I guess the easy way is to cut a flat surface in the two posts and fit a knee brace with two flat ends at the correct angle. But I want it to look slightly more natural and am trying to figure out how to cut a round hollow center at each end of the knee brace which fits snugly around the beam it will be attached to.
All help on this subject would be great!
Thanks and Best regards,
Bro your style for dealing with the know it all's in your opening was flawless
On teh brick scribe, he set his scribe WAY TOO WIDE. It should be set to the largest gap - about 1/4" in the instant case. THe carpenter pencil scribe is nice, but if he glued a piece of wood to the one side of the pencil and put the guide bit through that way, he could get a much finer line out of that fat lead pencil. The benefit of the compass style scribe is the easy adjustment. However they need to LOCK once that distance is set to be serviceable. Been doing it for years, thought to see what tricks he might have.
Cutting a bevel on the board to be scribed would result in a smaller contact surface with the subject surface to be scribed to. A 45 seems a bit extreme. As well, I was taught to bevel the board after the scribe. Have to check with Norm Abrams!
It's really interesting your explanations! Thanks for it.
It'd be a great tip if you could explain how calculate the exact depth of a piece of wood (for example for a bathroom furniture) if you are scribing and cutting the rear part of the wood.
Thanks in advance
Not to be mean or anything Jason, but everything you did could be done more easily... It's simple, all you have to do is...
Just build a robot, with routers in place of arms. And put him (robot) to task on scribing everything in your house to fit all your walls.. Oh, but don't forget, make sure you set him (robot) up to vacuum the house afterwords. That way once the wife gets home, it doesn't look like you had a party with all your favorite chipmunks, and use wood chips as confetti! I know, it sounds crazy.. But it could happen. The wife could show up, at any minute... Lol thanks for another great video my friend.. take it easy.
This was excellent!!! So much to process. I wished you would have had an example on a face frame scribe specific, selfishly, because that’s what I’m working on. 😂
The only thing I’m unclear about is the setup of the probe.
Should it be set to the distance of the closest or the furthest point to the wall one is scribing?
Ehmm, just … asking for a friend. 😉
In most situations I just use the ole knuckle scribe. I hold my pencil tightly and push my knuckle against the wall. It would have worked for all your examples except the brick one (my knuckles aren't pointy enough for that.). :-). I've used it a lot for scribing to sheetrocked walls especially. No new tools required! I worry your drill bit would leave a mark on the wall ..
Thanks Jason, another useful vid but I have two complaints.
Firstly I only saw this now, which means you posted two days early. Or I'm two days late. Some issue with converting imperial time to metric, I guess.
Secondly, you didn't show the dado-no-scribe technique for brick where you just chuck a masonry dado stack in the table saw, balance it on your shoulder and use it to cut a nice dado in the wall to fit your board.
FLAT WASHERS come in several sizes, widths and thicknesses. Fender washers, SAE, USS and metric. I've often seen and use washers to scribe an edge. I keep a collection of washers hanging on a binder ring from 1/4" - 1 1/4". The inner and outer diameters can also be used to draw radiuses for corners and circles for drilling holes on a layout!
When i saw you using playing cards my thought was(in Bender's voice): "I am going to do my own woodworking but with Black Jack and hookers."
But also you can buy some cheap plastic jig for these king of corner cut outs.But of course it would look much cooler i you break out a deck of cards when you have to match a piece of wood to a corner :D
great vid ! having to fit to a wall is or was my nightmare but i have just maed a drill scribe, and its adjustable, pair of pliers to screw the bit in or out. BUT while the card trick works, over time its a little waste full and long winded. take your example if that was floor covering or a sill, you had some sharpe dart angles, so more cards glue and scissors. even for the base of a large unit. a cheap couple of dollars former comb (rectangular half inch thick frame tool with 200 individualy sliding pins or teeth) does the job quicker, loosen teeth, push into the corner or shape your working to, lock teeth, scibe or draw following profile onto wood and cut out. When finished reset teeth and put away till needed. i have 2, a steel one o my father used for wood/linoleum/carpet/cornice/metal, its about 40 yrs old still good, and a plastic big box one cost about $4 works well and should last a life time . cards work in a pinch, but a former comb is quicker, especialy if the corners rounded or jaged . bought my plastic one 15 yrs or so ago and still use it.
I don’t think I would ever call that a cheater scribe. That’s an extremely complex corner to go around and any other method of scribing would be difficult to get 100% accurate at best. I’ve seen another woodworker that uses a double deck of cards that he rubber bands together and then pushes them into complex corners and angles to scribe them. And obviously, he make sure they go into every nook and cranny. I think both ideas are absolutely brilliant and should never be called cheating. Work smarter not harder! And it seems using playing cards gets the best results. I see no cheating. 😎
your tips seem obvious at first and you smack your head ,,,, thinking why didnt i think of that. Love your carpenter pencil Idea. I work at a lumber supply and we just give those away lol ... I have all the free scribes i need lol.
If the top would be between 2 walls (actually 2 short sides against opposite walls and the rear side against 3rd wall) and the top is wooded - how tight should be the fit? Should we consider some wood movement?
Great stuff, Bourbon Moth. However I get the impression when eg fitting wardrobes, that most carpenters build the cabinet first and then do the infills. Would like some more detailed info on doing the side of the infill opposite the scribed edge so the infills fit to the cabinet. Perhaps another short video covering that?
Hi, i am struggling with what to do if I want floating shelves but it’s the side wall that’s uneven? The back bit is wider by 1cm to the front. Hope you can help.
Hi, i am struggling with what to do if I want floating shelves but it’s the side wall that’s uneven? The back bit is wider by 1cm to the front. Hope you can help.
If you have complex shapes to deal with more than once in a blue moon, just get a contour gauge. They also deal with curved shapes and other straight edged shapes the playing card trick won't work well on. It's a super cheap tool but it is a monotasker, so if you rarely need one, it's maybe not worth it.
Scribing the gaps between bricks really doesn't look right to me. I think scribing only to the face of the bricks looks better. Thanks for the video Jason regardless.
Hi, I'm trying to scribe a dado rail to fit an internal revwrse angle of 42 degrees. A 45 cut doesn't get me a match when I pair it up. Is there a better way to do this?
They all say they scribe. After they install my contractor would say scribing was not possible bc of the wall(bow or curved). I have to watch them install it to believe it
Maybe I'm missing it but don't see the link to your favorite scribe, from Amazon, in the description
Very educational. I feel that I couldn't see the marks he was trying to show us. The camera needed to be zoomed in for better viewing.
I love all his videos.
Ok so if you are not a real cool person and have no friends like myself how would you go about getting to the point of scribing. Ie. no friends to hold your piece in a nice level orientation to scribe for install. Obviously I’m talking about if you can’t just set it on the floor.
Jason, the card you use are brilliant i will use them for ever (forever I mean as long as I am a live). I wonder if I should go to casino in Nevada to get card? who knowns.
Ive been watching the scribing videos for a while now and I stil cannpt find a tip for a part im looking for. Assuming that the pararel edge to the scribed one is finished already, and it has to be precisly i specific spot, i need to scraibe in a way that the finished piece will have exactly the width that i need. (and that beeing diferent due to wall not being stright
sheesh, who is paying any attention to the scribe-thing.....the real 'wisdom' is sitting on the bench and shelf screen-left! a decent collection of whisky!
As always, excellent teaching, but dude, the card trick was bitchin.
Tom B yrne
Great and easy instructional video - thank mate. Also look forward to watching your TV debut! 🙂
You could tape the pencil to a piece of scrap (or even hold it). If you need a very fine scribe, do this first and take off most of the material, then fine tune it with just the pencil as needed
Can anyone help me understand why you wouldn’t just always use a down cut blade on the jigsaw at all times if that’s an issue? Just curious bc I’m ignorant and want to know if there is a disadvantage to using that for other things as well
I did some quick cabinets yesterday. On the last one I noticed I cant fit it because the wall side and back are both skew. Today I see this. FML.
Jason great video for the newbies and start up guys, only thing you didn't mention I thought I would point out is the depth of the cabinet or dressing panel.
When scribing you need to have enough material to ensure the panel still aligns with the front of you piece or have enough of a service void on the back of a cabinet as not risk having to unnecessarily cut into you cabinet back panel.
Great video as usual and totally agree regarding the trend scribe it's to thick to get a nice scribe on alot of surfaces like brick or textured walls.
Have you ever used a Ticking Stick? Fantastic scribing tool for weird geometries.
Killer video. It was hard to pay attention to the info with that bourbon selection in the background... Gracias.
Brilliant timing as that is my next task to do. Big thumbs up!
Is that the Angels Envy Rye in the background? Christmas in my mouth
Where’s your link for the scribes on Amazon? Loved this video. Thanks!
Dude that Saker scribe tool is $29 not $12.
That's a huge difference for some of us.
The trend one I had the lead would always push back and I would have to do it up tight and in the end I had to do it up so tight to grip the lead it snapped the plastic threaded Rod the brass knob screws onto. I use a tracer one now many different positions and a pointed profile head.
About your question, who doesn't want butcher box? A vegetarian in other side of the earth 😂 me