The og-network server is amazing. I play the rpg on mobile as WHITEFANG64U and it's awesome. If you need help getting started just ask and I'll help ya out. It's a free too play, loot box free, new player friendly server open for all on bedrock
Unironically, you can try reporting that stuff to EU and tell them that Minecraft has servers which has things like these. They can go hard on that stuff and attack mojang as it still is located in Stockholm.
good thought! who knows how our Microsoft overlords would like that hit to their reputation tho. Edit: or is that just Mojang that's incompetent in enforcing such laws?
@@ezaf5989 ezaf you tink you're grown by saying this when in reality you're just a baby who can't take someone having an anime pfp, "God forbid they even HAVE a pfp of a female..."
I remember when i told my math teacher ill never need to know about binomial distribution, and now I'm seeing it in a Minecraft youtube video, I think I owe someone and apology....
To solve this problem, Mojang could require every loot box result to be announced in public chat. Then, as long as the public chat messages don't lie (easy to check, log on with two accounts, have one account open a vote crate, see if the other account gets an accurate message), you could simply collect a couple days of chat data and run the same analysis with the binomial distribution as seen here.
I remember when i told my math teacher ill never need to know about binomial distribution, and now I'm seeing it in a Minecraft RUclips video, I think I owe someone and apology…
As a person who has been developing multiplayer RPG servers for more than 12 years, I can say that cases are the very drug that almost all servers who want to earn something really worthwhile from their audience are hooked on. What MisterEpic showed in the video as an example of MelonPvP deceiving its players may be right and wrong at the same time. This is a psychological trap that administrators use to mislead players who are not good at arithmetic and calculating probabilities. For example: a player opens a crate and sees many different rewards in it with a probability of 10, 20, 30%. He doesn’t pay attention to this, he is interested in the main reward, which comes out with a 1% chance. In his mind, at ~100 openings of the chest he will receive the coveted reward. However, in reality, the chance of such an item falling out is not an independent 1%, it is 1% relative to all other chances in the chest, which in reality can be a sum of 1, 2, 3 thousand percent. Accordingly, the chance of such an item falling out is no longer 1%, but 0.01 or even 0.001% percent relative to 100%. But this is far from the biggest scam. On such servers, aimed at 10-12 year old children, some servers use plugins that can display literally what the admin himself writes in the config in the probability of an item dropping. And this is truly scary, because this is the only source of information for the player, which he cannot verify in any way.
what do you mean 1% relative to all the other chances in the chest? Shouldn't the probability of all items in the chest add up to 100, so 1% is just 1%?
@@isopa2543For example if you have two rewards in a chest and both have 1% chance, the chance of actually getting one of the rewards is 50%. So the percentage shown is very misleading, because in many cases the total percent is actually not 100, but instead the sum of the chance of all the rewards
I think the guy in the main comment makes a silent assumption of "exactly one item always falls out" if we do assume this, then the probabilities of rolling the items simply have to sum up to 100. If they don't, that's a contradiction - not a paradox of any kind it is fully possible to have only two rollable items, with 1% probability each. You can roll none (98,01%), roll only item 1 (0,99%), only item 2 (0,99%) or both (0,01%)
@@isopa2543 Ideally you would add up the chances to equal 100%, but thats not what they do, the chance % listed on items in drops is more like a "weight" in a data set, then actual arithmetic. IE, if you had it equal 100% it would be relatively fair, since you would be guaranteed a decent chance of a good drop if it was .5% within so many keys. But because its just weighting the drop chance, you might have 10 items that can be dropped, and if every single item had a 50% drop chance, that's more akin to each item having like 10%, but to you who might not understand arithmetic; you see 50% and think its a likelihood it drops. Its a common method of deceiving gamblers.
In the US it is illegal to operate a lottery, generally defined as a contest in which contestants pay to enter and the prize is awarded at random. The few exceptions include state lotteries and nonprofit organizations' occasional fundraising raffles. Lootboxes can be considered lotterys. So doesnt matter if the lootbox showcase wrong chance...when the lootbox itself is illegal. Ensure you report all illegal lotterys to the FTC
I think they use the counter-argument against the accusation of lottery/gambling that you (as a MC player) don't get money from lootboxes, you only get digital merchandises (as a "pig in a poke"), so they feel themselves safe from the law. But I don't know how the laws are worded especially in the US.
@@KekPafranyIt doesn't have to be monetary gain, just you pay and you have a chance to win something. Although not probably to the FTC, to the EU. As another comment pointed out, Mojang is in Stockholm.
@@KekPafrany It doesnt matter what you get. Prize is irrelevant. no civilian in the united states are permitted by law to run a lottery. End of story. The person who holds the lottery is the person that commits the crime. in the logic you use "the criminal can blame the victim and get away with it." Adapt that idea to any other crime and watch it's defense crumble. imagine a criminal blaming the victim that they did not want to get robbed. You see how stupid it sounds? Also you cant say it doesnt hold monetary value when its well know there is a minecraft account market that sells accounts with collectibles and perks.
@@genio2509 Mojang is not affiliated with third party servers as stated in the EULA. You have to go after each individual server owner. However if mojang see's that third party server owners are gettting caught and prosecuted they might want to start stepping up their take downs of servers that does to avoid a pr disaster.
Unfortunately lottery is a very specific legal term in this case which these don't fall under You need to hit atleast 2 of the 3 features to be illegal
Mojang's extremely lax these days, back in the old days they blacklisted any server that sold any perks at all for real money, even if it wasnt gambling or loot crates. Any real money transaction that gave the player an ingame advantage was forbidden.
wealth corrupts equally. maybe not every one but far to often it is almost guaranteed to corrupt and when you add a high level of power to some one wealthy it's 1000 percent worse
this is an actual problem though, One of my online friends used to be really young and begged his family to pay for their crates while there was a "sale" (its there 24/7) and she said she payed 200$~ to cosmicpvp on crates while her family was poor. She's in a better situation now but its kinda sad how that happened.
Mojang: bans player for using all caps in chat. Also Mojang: turn a blind eye on illagel gambling on servers Their double standard is insane, I am hopping on Reforj as soon as it enters public beta
@@SaulBadman-wb5kt how? they set up their own server without mojang's intervention or anything, everything is paid for by them, and all sales go through them. how is mojang benefiting from this?
@@Kyznikovpublicity and retaining playercounts mainly, banning very large servers increases chances of those players quitting the game entirely, and thus less spread of the game thru word of mouth and the such
@@Pashankie So... No reason. They have nothing to lose. Mojang already makes massive cash from Minecraft, and Minecraft is already a global icon in gaming. If Minecraft were still pretty obscure, sure, but Minecraft's waaay too big for this to really matter all that much. What's a few thousand players when there's at least several dozen more still playing and possibly even paying?
honestly if anybody should be sued and brought to justice, it's mojang for not enforcing the rules which are literally the law itself.. they are basically a black market or child gambling. Gambling shouldn't even considered legal on a game like minecraft whatsoever. Or on any site at all that doesn't have age verifiability.
Law where? The problem is most countries don't have laws for crates in computer games Mojang isn't doing anything illegal. Morally bad? Yes. Illegal? No.
@@jacobna2080 unlikely. Don’t you remember the adpocalypse youtube got in from COPPA? All because of user-generated content If a company hosts user made content, they are responsible for said content And that’s just in America, one of the most unregulated markets out there, Mojang is not in america
To add insight to the falsely displayed odds. Many popular crate plugins by design manipulate the percentages that are set in the config file. For a simple example, let's add 2 items to your crate. One with a 20% chance, and the other with a 40% chance. The plugin will even out the odds between the number of the added items so in this case you will see the first item's real percentage is 33% and the second item's chances will be 66%. Now here's the catch. The plugin will still only display the percentages in the GUI that are given in the config. So in this case, it will still display 20% and 40%. In the case of Melon SMP, I believe it might have been that they have had a lot of items, and the 0.5% chance that they've set in their config has been inflated due to the high number of items within the crate, also the odds of those items factor in as well. To be clear, I'm not defending any servers and yes Cosmic's deceptive practices are undeniable. I just wanted to share this issue regarding the crate plugins as it might not be an "Intentional misleading practice" by many server owners, it's just that the resources (plugins) they have access to might have a subpar design.
With larger that 100% total odds with all items rates combined that would make the false odds show up as LESS than their real odds, for example if you had 5 items right, the first had a 40% second a 30% >25%>10%>1% equaling a total of 106% across all items, the shown odds of all items would be reduced by 6% in total to drop the show rates back down to a total of 100% chance, it would only show a higher than actual rate if the total odds of all items came out to LESS than 100% example if the first item of the previous set of number was also a 30% chance so it was 30%>30%>25%>10%>1% it would come out to 96% so the plugin would be adding % to the shown odds to raise the total back to 100% you have the right idea but your math is backwards.
Have anyone considered sharing this situation with a newspaper? Making these illegal acts publicly known to everyone on the news will make Mojang more aware of it.
Mojang is VERY aware of it, thats how they can pop in instantly and black list your server the same day you do something they dont agree with, and they used to ban these kinds of servers within MINUTES of adding any kind of p2w, even ranks would gey a server banned within an hour bc mojang said "no, you cannot give in game advantages for money, at all" but when microsoft took over they decided not to ever enforce rules
i used to play the server with a bunch of people and one of the guys i was mutuals with was named greavys and he ended up stealing 238m from a Cypto Scam and got arrested. He was one of the most known players on this server too
I know most of these RUclipsrs no longer upload videos like they used to so please show PopularMMOs and Stampylonghead to your brother, they're the best RUclipsrs I have grown up watching.
I played Cosmic servers when I was younger and it never hit me until this video that all these gambling mechanics were just accepted and part of the server culture. I actually bought a crate once and remember getting nothing good, unlike the crazy rolls that would be showcased in videos. Glad this is coming to light!
@@dvanz7002i give it 6 months before cosmic sky gets blacklisted, at this point all of their bullshit is out in the open and people are just spam reporting any server they so much as touch in an admin or server moderating capacity.
Just a small note-the calculation at 5:47, although technically correct, is misleading. The value should be calculated by taking the probability of getting 2 *or lower,* not exactly 2; otherwise, the value will turn out to be very low and is not that useful in this context. For reference, the probability of a more expected value, 18, is still less than 10% (which, although not statistically significant, is straddling the line a bit). Although the probability still turns out to be absurdly low when the calculation is performed correctly, it is important to address when something is done incorrectly or in a way that is misleading.
Indeed, to add the actual probability answers to this, P(success=0)=2.403e-8; P(s=1)=4.227e-7; P(s=2)=3.716e-6. As the outcomes are mutually exclusive we can simply add them up. Therefore P(
Ya know if these servers are in the US you can report them on the FCC website They are one of those government departments that actually get stuff done if they are informed of a problem
We need way more anti gambling laws. Idc if it's lootboxes in games like Apex Legends or weird gambling on Minecraft servers. It's a horrible mechanic and is easily accessible for kids and teenagers. And even young adults are tempted to waste their money on basically nothing.
Once again, great video on cosmic! While Cosmic PvP and Cosmic Prisons have shut down, Cosmic Sky has actually relaunched not too long ago and still has slot bot tickets. I played for a bit at launch, but never looked into the slots so I don't know if they are the same or not. I do know that lootboxes are still a thing as my friend bought 3 and to be expected, he got some of the worst items possible.
Somebody just needs to take one for the team and dedicate their life to DDOSing any and every server preston or woofless ever try and make... they need to be permenantly blacklisted from owning, operating, or moderating any server
My boy Preston has fallen from grace, growing up he was one of my favourite creators. The moment it clicked in my head that he was running out of content was when he dropped the video “This is not click bait” it was a parkour vid from memory
He never had grace im so sorry... him and woofless have been doing and getting away with stuff like this for almost as lomg as they have had youtube accounts
I was once playing on a server with a crate that had 1% for an Elite rank (best rank in the server) and everytime the season ends on one of the gamemodes they give everyone creative. So I duped some keys (three double chests) and opened them. I DID NOT GET THIS RANK, but I knew that it was still there because someone got it.
So if the actual probability is lower than 1/5184 (exactly 3 double chests), then it's less than 0.019%... At least 50 times rarer than advertised (and that's considering you ran out and there's no definitive number for the win so it's definitely even lower), that definitely goes way beyond just plain bad luck
Its listed as categories. So lets say the most op items are in a category of probability 0.5%. You would get one item from it, but the item also random with an unknown percentage. The only certainty is that you got an item from that category. If you sumup all the crate items percentages the result will go way past 100.
loot boxes, crates, even the little 2$ toys should be flat out illegal everywhere. I work retail and can't tell you how many times ive seen cheap "mystery item" toys get opened and tossed aside, not even stolen just looking for the one they want. If its in a small plastic bag i stop and help them feel to get the ones they want, its gambling for kids. Its disgusting and i genuinely hate selling them.
Those $2 toys are not even remotely in the same boat... ik what ur talking about but those are imo the exact same as having a gumball machine with little toys in it, and the odds of getting them all are fairly equal, trust me, my sister collects hundreds of those as a hobby, it rarely takes her more than a $50 to get every single figure they can contain. Thats just a creative way of adding some rarity to them so they have a singular ounce of collector value. Granted there are a couple brands of them that ARE that bad and need to be put out of buisness but the vast majority are equal odds with maybe 1 rarer figure that has 50% as many made as the rest of the figures in that series but still not that rare that its gonna cost you more than $10 and a couple minutes of opening wrappers to get them. You also really cant complain about this and not bring up trading card games like pokemon which are the ACTUAL gambling toy thats ruining children.
Just straight up ban lootboxes and enforce bans where there are lootboxes. Make items have value because you need to grind for them or give them special quirks and put them solo in a shop. For example, im absolutely happy to pay 5€ for a name change thats special for me.
If your game is purchasable in a country, the developers have to follow that countries laws, so pf all the countries the game is playble in they have to follow the laws of ALL of those countries at the same time, thats why so few games made outside of china ever get released there, bc their laws are really hard to follow if you arent a chinese game developer whos been dealing with their video game laws for years already
While countries where its allowed wont have issue with it, the developers can and will still be getting in trouble for breaking the law in countries that dont allow it
i love the implication that Minecraft care about their own Usage Guidelines. I tried asking about Minecraft’s brand partnership with the NZ National Political Party, to which I was told to put a feature request, and then got banned from the feature/bug request form for being political…
"if your political views dont match the hivemind, youre banned" 😅 what? actually insane behavior. Im slowly starting to despise my childrens blocc game. Also questioning why and who they team up with is a good thing bec too many companies wont actually look into groups or ideas before just accepting money. Thats why many youtubers still shill betterhelp even though its a MASSIVE scam
I did do that as well, but there wasn't any online calculator to display it for the video, so I just did the probability of exactly 2 as the odds are almost identical anyways
6:00 Not sure if anyone else pointed it out but you shouldn't just look at the probability of exactly 2 positive results, you should consider the probability of 2 results or fewer, since any one single outcome is relatively unlikely, That being said, in this case it doesn't really affect the probability too much as the odds of receiving 2, 1 or 0 drops only brings the total up to 0.00042%, up from 0.00037%
I would also like to point out some points about the psychology of the main age demographic (12-18 year olds). Many psychological studies have demonstrated that teenagers are risk averse. Teenagers are more likely to participate in risk based activities simply BECAUSE there is risk, and even more so when the ODDS of an outcome ARE UNCLEAR. In other words, teenagers seek ambiguity in their decision making to learn about the world more. Not only this, but in the brain the "reward" pathway develops much faster than the decision making and assessment regions (the prefrontal cortex) which doesn't finish developing until the age of 25. Furthermore, the effects of your peers are large. Some studies found the attitude of your peers is one of the major reasons teenagers participate in risk behaviour. The people on these servers likely look up to the youtubers running them, or could even have parasocial relationships with them, another factor potentially encouraging participation in the gambling side of a server. When you factor this in with gambling in video games being widely accessible in so many different game types, and also addictive, the effects are quite widespread. These servers are not only taking advantage of people who don't have the time/resources/knowledge to complete the data analysis themselves, but are also capitalising on the fact their main demographic is developmentally not at the level to make proper decisions. Although most people understand marketing gambling to under 18 yr olds is bad, I think it's equally important to know more about WHY it's so bad. The morals of these people become more questionable when you really consider the developmental stages of the main demographic. SOURCES: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28098227/ www.researchgate.net/publication/254081726_Who_Takes_Risks_When_and_Why_Determinants_of_Risk_Taking pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25089362/ www.researchgate.net/publication/369324684_Effects_of_peer_observation_on_risky_decision-making_in_adolescence_A_meta-analytic_review Just as a disclaimer, the information as i displayed in my comment are taken mainly from a university lecture, the sources listed were listed within the lecture itself.
Google monthly boxes for me rq and get back to me. Its already a multibillion dollar industry that sells you cheaply made garbage you wouldnt normally buy buy bc you dont know what ur getting until it gets there 🤷♂️
The legal definition of gambling in most jurisdictions requires that the prizes you can win must have a real-world monetary value. Some places are changing this, but it's slow going.
I don't want to defend anyone, but the written "winning chance" may indeed be correct but the crates plugin itself has the wrong working chances. I have tried a few of these, especially free ones, and even though I had a few items with 1% or 10% chance written on them, I was getting everything exactly the same, as if there was no winning chance at all...
While its disguisting to see server owners like Preston exploit young children. I have to question the fact that parents of said children are doing nothing in all of this, its almost safe to say that they deserve to get scammed due to negligence and ignorance. They seem to just not care and they keep giving money to their children without supervision.
I totally agree. We can't have age verification on everything just because parents don't care about their children. So now are we going to ban all gacha games because parents can't look what their child spends money on? I even saw teens (age 14-16) playing online casinos even when you need to verify with your ID. And who's fault is that that these kids are playing illegally? Casino's? Because they didn't do enough to protect these kids? Is it a fault of 18+ site that kid is accessing their site? Crates shouldn't be there on Minecraft servers, but still, it's not only responsibility of server owner or Mojang to look after not their kids.
something i think would be interesting to investigate is modded servers like pixelmon and other massive mods that have servers. a unchecked corner of minecraft servers
as a programmer who has worked with randomness before I can definitely say that the odds on cosmic are rigged. as true randomness would not even be close to what is shown. the only way is to boost or reduce certain results. for example you can generate a number between 1 and 10 and then generate a coin flip for every number that is not 10. that would mean that every number except 10 will have a 1/20 chance of winning vs 1/10 for the number 10. this would show as every number except 10 having a result that is closer to 1/20 than 1/10.
You need to start saying Microsoft instead of Mojang in these videos. If Microsoft starts getting bad rep, then the hammer will actually come down, but right now you're giving them a shield - Mojang. It is Microsoft enabling and encouraging child gambling because it's convienent for them, or it would be inconvienent to actually moderate these servers. Microsoft have the sort of sway where they could outright have paypal block minecraft stores selling keys, as they already do for unbans.
5:20 To be fair to them, this might not have even been their issue at all. Chance and probability are a very difficult thing to calculate. When opening crates, you have to get closer to millions of crates to see the actual distribution... More information on this later...
Some of your math is a tiny bit skewed. For example, you should have calculated the probability of getting 2 crate keys with 3,500 _or less_ loot boxes. That said, the difference here is pretty microscopic, so this wouldn't have affected your main point. I suppose you probably wanted to keep things simpler for the RUclips audience, too, so you're probably more right than me...
Cosmic gave "influencers" crates with higher rates... why do you think they ALWAYS got something good? It was intentionally set up to make people go "wow he got a president rank from that? Thats crazy ive gotta go and spend my moms retirement on crates so i can get one" 😒
Not to mention F1NN doesnt need that kind of harrassment over a server that doestn exist anymore giving them promotional crates to advertise them, that was before the days where you had to disclose when you had been paid to say or do something for marketing
big servers can host hundreds if not thousands per month for a bunch of servers that can hold a lot of players each monitization may suck but they give people the ability to play on them for free a way to otherwise how would the servers be around without the money to sustain the costs
while yes u can host your own servers too that would cost a lot of money up front plus maintance and electristity and a whole rack of servers can use a decent amount of power
Gambling, by many people's definition, including, in many cases, the law, is if you can make real money with it through intended means. The reason most servers aren't allowed is because, despite loot boxes being allowed, pay-to-win isn't, making most loot boxes illegal. Note that Hypixel contains lootboxes, but they're never pay-to-win so Hypixel doesnt break the TOS. (correct me if I'm wrong)
I decided to check it out and CosmicPVP got shut down a day after he uploaded this. I used to play cosmic prisons just because of the gambling systems lol
Love the mod claiming that it was fixed when VERY CLEARLY all they did was slightly increase the rates of the rest of the slots before the last one so that the chart looked slightly more legtimate... the shit preston, woofless and their mod team got away with should honestly have every single one of them facing prison time bc cosmic was really nothing more than a get rich quick scheme carefully planned to exploit minors, not to mention that offering gambling of any kind to a minor is in itself an actual crime.
If I had a Minecraft Server and it had gambling. I’d have it only for those who vote and play on the server. If you wanted to buy something specific, it would be *server name*’s luck where you’d get to choose the item that you’d want from the loot table and maybe some older events/seasons would be worked into keeping the server afloat. You aren’t paying to win. It’s paying for drip/cosmetics
above the "no gambling rule", it says don't do anything illegal. Having minors gamble is illegal as its required to be either 18 or 21 in the whole US.
The odds for the melon smp chests are worse than you think because your data is influenced by stopping bias. It is actually much worse than you calculated
I'm surprised that servers haven't started using gacha-style pity systems. Gacha pity has its own problems, but it's at least slightly less exploitative than common crate systems on servers.
I think loot boxes are fine if all the ways the earn the stuff to open them is through in game achievment. Where I think it draws the line at, is when you can use real money to buy packages and in game moneys.
Gambling is the heinous and huge problem in my country, it's bigger than the gun problem. Creating a gambling system is the same energy as make a habit of gambling irl. Not only do the kids become victim, but the parents are also victims too.
Had to bring out the high school maths for this one! Join my server: og-network.net
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The og-network server is amazing. I play the rpg on mobile as WHITEFANG64U and it's awesome. If you need help getting started just ask and I'll help ya out. It's a free too play, loot box free, new player friendly server open for all on bedrock
So you saying I should pay more attention in English?
Not the nerd stuff😮
Cosmic still has a server today they’re most likely doing this even now
Unironically, you can try reporting that stuff to EU and tell them that Minecraft has servers which has things like these. They can go hard on that stuff and attack mojang as it still is located in Stockholm.
Good idea!
good thought! who knows how our Microsoft overlords would like that hit to their reputation tho.
Edit: or is that just Mojang that's incompetent in enforcing such laws?
And then they kill self-hosting?
@@MiesvanderLippe lmao
Mojang is owned by microsoft though, so they can lawyer up easily plus all liability would be through microsoft
I swear, the only way Mojang would enforce their rules is if they were publicly pressured or financially incentivized to.
even if they did they would some how screw this up and enforce on the wrong people
someone with a lawsuit...
Pay 2 win on a never ending game you never win maybe pay 2 advantage@@bioniclemac300
Well they used to and entire community through a fit about it. So they layed off there enforcement.
Microsoft
Using duping to expose rigged loot boxes would be a great addition to the duping videos! Might make a lasting impact to expose them.
@@ezaf5989and what is wrong with that?
@@ezaf5989 You are a grown whatever that is to immature to accept peoples choice of pfp. You exposed yourself.
@@ezaf5989 ezaf you tink you're grown by saying this when in reality you're just a baby who can't take someone having an anime pfp, "God forbid they even HAVE a pfp of a female..."
@@ezaf5989 woahh you really got them there, nice one
@@ezaf5989 lil bro thinks hes a well-adjusted member of society
I remember when i told my math teacher ill never need to know about binomial distribution, and now I'm seeing it in a Minecraft youtube video, I think I owe someone and apology....
Hahahaha me and you both!
To solve this problem, Mojang could require every loot box result to be announced in public chat. Then, as long as the public chat messages don't lie (easy to check, log on with two accounts, have one account open a vote crate, see if the other account gets an accurate message), you could simply collect a couple days of chat data and run the same analysis with the binomial distribution as seen here.
I remember when i told my math teacher ill never need to know about binomial distribution, and now I'm seeing it in a Minecraft RUclips video, I think I owe someone and apology…
Say sorry to your math teacher. :(
@@Theunicorn2012 congratulations, you copied the comment you just replied to, typos and all.
As a person who has been developing multiplayer RPG servers for more than 12 years, I can say that cases are the very drug that almost all servers who want to earn something really worthwhile from their audience are hooked on.
What MisterEpic showed in the video as an example of MelonPvP deceiving its players may be right and wrong at the same time. This is a psychological trap that administrators use to mislead players who are not good at arithmetic and calculating probabilities.
For example: a player opens a crate and sees many different rewards in it with a probability of 10, 20, 30%. He doesn’t pay attention to this, he is interested in the main reward, which comes out with a 1% chance. In his mind, at ~100 openings of the chest he will receive the coveted reward. However, in reality, the chance of such an item falling out is not an independent 1%, it is 1% relative to all other chances in the chest, which in reality can be a sum of 1, 2, 3 thousand percent.
Accordingly, the chance of such an item falling out is no longer 1%, but 0.01 or even 0.001% percent relative to 100%.
But this is far from the biggest scam. On such servers, aimed at 10-12 year old children, some servers use plugins that can display literally what the admin himself writes in the config in the probability of an item dropping. And this is truly scary, because this is the only source of information for the player, which he cannot verify in any way.
what do you mean 1% relative to all the other chances in the chest? Shouldn't the probability of all items in the chest add up to 100, so 1% is just 1%?
@@isopa2543For example if you have two rewards in a chest and both have 1% chance, the chance of actually getting one of the rewards is 50%. So the percentage shown is very misleading, because in many cases the total percent is actually not 100, but instead the sum of the chance of all the rewards
I think the guy in the main comment makes a silent assumption of "exactly one item always falls out"
if we do assume this, then the probabilities of rolling the items simply have to sum up to 100. If they don't, that's a contradiction - not a paradox of any kind
it is fully possible to have only two rollable items, with 1% probability each. You can roll none (98,01%), roll only item 1 (0,99%), only item 2 (0,99%) or both (0,01%)
@@mtcrax i dont play mc servers so i'm not really familiar, but would they put the chance as 50% instead of 1% in that situation?
@@isopa2543 Ideally you would add up the chances to equal 100%, but thats not what they do, the chance % listed on items in drops is more like a "weight" in a data set, then actual arithmetic. IE, if you had it equal 100% it would be relatively fair, since you would be guaranteed a decent chance of a good drop if it was .5% within so many keys. But because its just weighting the drop chance, you might have 10 items that can be dropped, and if every single item had a 50% drop chance, that's more akin to each item having like 10%, but to you who might not understand arithmetic; you see 50% and think its a likelihood it drops.
Its a common method of deceiving gamblers.
Minecraft rules: No Gambling, Minecraft servers: Does not compute
Family rules: Dont be mean to each other, My dad: does not compute (hits mom)
@@calebhunter1236are you okay bro?
Also Minecraft : *nerf piglin & villagers trading
@@El_Negro2003 Yes I am okay haha sometimes dad drinks his weird juice and hits mom
Minecraft servers: No means yes :D
In the US it is illegal to operate a lottery, generally defined as a contest in which contestants pay to enter and the prize is awarded at random. The few exceptions include state lotteries and nonprofit organizations' occasional fundraising raffles.
Lootboxes can be considered lotterys. So doesnt matter if the lootbox showcase wrong chance...when the lootbox itself is illegal. Ensure you report all illegal lotterys to the FTC
I think they use the counter-argument against the accusation of lottery/gambling that you (as a MC player) don't get money from lootboxes, you only get digital merchandises (as a "pig in a poke"), so they feel themselves safe from the law. But I don't know how the laws are worded especially in the US.
@@KekPafranyIt doesn't have to be monetary gain, just you pay and you have a chance to win something.
Although not probably to the FTC, to the EU. As another comment pointed out, Mojang is in Stockholm.
@@KekPafrany It doesnt matter what you get. Prize is irrelevant. no civilian in the united states are permitted by law to run a lottery. End of story. The person who holds the lottery is the person that commits the crime. in the logic you use "the criminal can blame the victim and get away with it." Adapt that idea to any other crime and watch it's defense crumble. imagine a criminal blaming the victim that they did not want to get robbed. You see how stupid it sounds? Also you cant say it doesnt hold monetary value when its well know there is a minecraft account market that sells accounts with collectibles and perks.
@@genio2509 Mojang is not affiliated with third party servers as stated in the EULA. You have to go after each individual server owner. However if mojang see's that third party server owners are gettting caught and prosecuted they might want to start stepping up their take downs of servers that does to avoid a pr disaster.
Unfortunately lottery is a very specific legal term in this case which these don't fall under
You need to hit atleast 2 of the 3 features to be illegal
Mojang's extremely lax these days, back in the old days they blacklisted any server that sold any perks at all for real money, even if it wasnt gambling or loot crates. Any real money transaction that gave the player an ingame advantage was forbidden.
Its Microsoft, not Mojang sadly
Shame to see the people we looked up too as kids slowly all becoming corrupt and money hungry.
Wasn't CosmicPVP always like this?
wealth corrupts equally. maybe not every one but far to often it is almost guaranteed to corrupt and when you add a high level of power to some one wealthy it's 1000 percent worse
at least they are only into the kids' money and not the kids themselves I guess
@I.disagree yeah but it got way worse at first it wasn't that bad but later on it practically became impossible to progress without using crates
@@Greenhawk4I hate that is a positive
this is an actual problem though,
One of my online friends used to be really young and begged his family to pay for their crates while there was a "sale" (its there 24/7) and she said she payed 200$~ to cosmicpvp on crates while her family was poor. She's in a better situation now but its kinda sad how that happened.
and that kids is why you never remotely support p2w servers in any way
i used to be really young too
If the family was really poor then why did they let your friend buy crates?
Lets go gambling!
Awwh dang it
Aw dang it!
Aw dang it!
Aw dang it!
Awwh dang it
Mojang: bans player for using all caps in chat.
Also Mojang: turn a blind eye on illagel gambling on servers
Their double standard is insane, I am hopping on Reforj as soon as it enters public beta
Mohang doesnt ban players, the staff do.
@@ejhxwlettguess which staff? Mojang staff
@@ejhxwlett he been living under a rock during chat reporting lol
@@ejhxwlett 1.19 chat reporting
You've been living under a rock eh?
@@broreallysad oh i thought he meant in servers, not in like live chat or sumn idk
Can’t believe Mojang won’t just ban these P2W servers.
Because mojang benefits from it too
@@SaulBadman-wb5kt how? they set up their own server without mojang's intervention or anything, everything is paid for by them, and all sales go through them. how is mojang benefiting from this?
@@Kyznikovpublicity and retaining playercounts mainly, banning very large servers increases chances of those players quitting the game entirely, and thus less spread of the game thru word of mouth and the such
@@Pashankie So... No reason. They have nothing to lose. Mojang already makes massive cash from Minecraft, and Minecraft is already a global icon in gaming. If Minecraft were still pretty obscure, sure, but Minecraft's waaay too big for this to really matter all that much. What's a few thousand players when there's at least several dozen more still playing and possibly even paying?
This is no longer P2W - it's just a money sink.
0:33 "large playbases of miners" its minecraft, duhh
literally where my head went 😂
Everyone likes to play minorcraft with fellow miners!
honestly if anybody should be sued and brought to justice, it's mojang for not enforcing the rules which are literally the law itself.. they are basically a black market or child gambling. Gambling shouldn't even considered legal on a game like minecraft whatsoever. Or on any site at all that doesn't have age verifiability.
Law where? The problem is most countries don't have laws for crates in computer games Mojang isn't doing anything illegal. Morally bad? Yes. Illegal? No.
It’s not really Mojangs fault. The most they can probably get charged with is like, negligence or something
@@07uu67 EU. Mojang is still based somewhere in the EU
@@jacobna2080 unlikely. Don’t you remember the adpocalypse youtube got in from COPPA? All because of user-generated content
If a company hosts user made content, they are responsible for said content
And that’s just in America, one of the most unregulated markets out there, Mojang is not in america
Shutup
To add insight to the falsely displayed odds. Many popular crate plugins by design manipulate the percentages that are set in the config file. For a simple example, let's add 2 items to your crate. One with a 20% chance, and the other with a 40% chance. The plugin will even out the odds between the number of the added items so in this case you will see the first item's real percentage is 33% and the second item's chances will be 66%. Now here's the catch. The plugin will still only display the percentages in the GUI that are given in the config. So in this case, it will still display 20% and 40%. In the case of Melon SMP, I believe it might have been that they have had a lot of items, and the 0.5% chance that they've set in their config has been inflated due to the high number of items within the crate, also the odds of those items factor in as well.
To be clear, I'm not defending any servers and yes Cosmic's deceptive practices are undeniable. I just wanted to share this issue regarding the crate plugins as it might not be an "Intentional misleading practice" by many server owners, it's just that the resources (plugins) they have access to might have a subpar design.
With larger that 100% total odds with all items rates combined that would make the false odds show up as LESS than their real odds, for example if you had 5 items right, the first had a 40% second a 30% >25%>10%>1% equaling a total of 106% across all items, the shown odds of all items would be reduced by 6% in total to drop the show rates back down to a total of 100% chance, it would only show a higher than actual rate if the total odds of all items came out to LESS than 100% example if the first item of the previous set of number was also a 30% chance so it was 30%>30%>25%>10%>1% it would come out to 96% so the plugin would be adding % to the shown odds to raise the total back to 100% you have the right idea but your math is backwards.
Have anyone considered sharing this situation with a newspaper? Making these illegal acts publicly known to everyone on the news will make Mojang more aware of it.
Mojang is VERY aware of it, thats how they can pop in instantly and black list your server the same day you do something they dont agree with, and they used to ban these kinds of servers within MINUTES of adding any kind of p2w, even ranks would gey a server banned within an hour bc mojang said "no, you cannot give in game advantages for money, at all" but when microsoft took over they decided not to ever enforce rules
i used to play the server with a bunch of people and one of the guys i was mutuals with was named greavys and he ended up stealing 238m from a Cypto Scam and got arrested. He was one of the most known players on this server too
My younger brother (7 year old) watches preston playz 💀
I need to get him watching mr rogers, then he wont grow up to be a professional ipad kid
Mr Rogers is a W
@@rowanstree8499 fr
If he is watching Preston, he better be watching the pre-2018 content
@@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7 he aint
I know most of these RUclipsrs no longer upload videos like they used to so please show PopularMMOs and Stampylonghead to your brother, they're the best RUclipsrs I have grown up watching.
At least OG Network doesn't have any rigged gambling, I appreciate the ethical monetization.
Petition to hire TheMisterEpic at mojang. (we need to get rid of these servers and he's the perfect candidate)
"Babe, wake up TheMisterEpic posted."
For statistical analysis of binomial probabilities we don't use the probability of X=x we use X
Even without rigged odds, it would still be illegal in some counties.
I played Cosmic servers when I was younger and it never hit me until this video that all these gambling mechanics were just accepted and part of the server culture. I actually bought a crate once and remember getting nothing good, unlike the crazy rolls that would be showcased in videos. Glad this is coming to light!
Showcased by preston and woffless more often than not aswell, so they prolly got special crates with increased odds bc they owned the server
0:11 cosmic pvp is no longer online( the client no longer works.)
Nice
Cosmic pvp has been down for a while they reopend cosmic sky tho, the client hasn’t been working for over a year aswell so old news there pall
@@dvanz7002i give it 6 months before cosmic sky gets blacklisted, at this point all of their bullshit is out in the open and people are just spam reporting any server they so much as touch in an admin or server moderating capacity.
TheMisterEpic is actually on the way to 1M subs lesgo
the illegal gambling server operations have been exposed
Just a small note-the calculation at 5:47, although technically correct, is misleading. The value should be calculated by taking the probability of getting 2 *or lower,* not exactly 2; otherwise, the value will turn out to be very low and is not that useful in this context. For reference, the probability of a more expected value, 18, is still less than 10% (which, although not statistically significant, is straddling the line a bit). Although the probability still turns out to be absurdly low when the calculation is performed correctly, it is important to address when something is done incorrectly or in a way that is misleading.
Indeed, to add the actual probability answers to this, P(success=0)=2.403e-8; P(s=1)=4.227e-7; P(s=2)=3.716e-6. As the outcomes are mutually exclusive we can simply add them up. Therefore P(
Ya know if these servers are in the US you can report them on the FCC website
They are one of those government departments that actually get stuff done if they are informed of a problem
We need way more anti gambling laws. Idc if it's lootboxes in games like Apex Legends or weird gambling on Minecraft servers. It's a horrible mechanic and is easily accessible for kids and teenagers. And even young adults are tempted to waste their money on basically nothing.
Once again, great video on cosmic!
While Cosmic PvP and Cosmic Prisons have shut down, Cosmic Sky has actually relaunched not too long ago and still has slot bot tickets. I played for a bit at launch, but never looked into the slots so I don't know if they are the same or not. I do know that lootboxes are still a thing as my friend bought 3 and to be expected, he got some of the worst items possible.
😂😂😂
Somebody just needs to take one for the team and dedicate their life to DDOSing any and every server preston or woofless ever try and make... they need to be permenantly blacklisted from owning, operating, or moderating any server
My boy Preston has fallen from grace, growing up he was one of my favourite creators. The moment it clicked in my head that he was running out of content was when he dropped the video “This is not click bait” it was a parkour vid from memory
He never had grace im so sorry... him and woofless have been doing and getting away with stuff like this for almost as lomg as they have had youtube accounts
@ I had been falling for the clickbait like a stupid gullible kid and then I learned what clickbait was and my view changed
I was once playing on a server with a crate that had 1% for an Elite rank (best rank in the server) and everytime the season ends on one of the gamemodes they give everyone creative. So I duped some keys (three double chests) and opened them. I DID NOT GET THIS RANK, but I knew that it was still there because someone got it.
So if the actual probability is lower than 1/5184 (exactly 3 double chests), then it's less than 0.019%... At least 50 times rarer than advertised (and that's considering you ran out and there's no definitive number for the win so it's definitely even lower), that definitely goes way beyond just plain bad luck
Theres a plugin called ecocrates that is popular advertises the ability to rig crates odds with display chances and actual chances
Its listed as categories. So lets say the most op items are in a category of probability 0.5%. You would get one item from it, but the item also random with an unknown percentage. The only certainty is that you got an item from that category. If you sumup all the crate items percentages the result will go way past 100.
2:25 bro that player with the red skin's unsername
It's not "rich or stupid", it is "rich and stupid".
One of the first (yay) Good work discovering this! We need more people like you.
loot boxes, crates, even the little 2$ toys should be flat out illegal everywhere. I work retail and can't tell you how many times ive seen cheap "mystery item" toys get opened and tossed aside, not even stolen just looking for the one they want. If its in a small plastic bag i stop and help them feel to get the ones they want, its gambling for kids. Its disgusting and i genuinely hate selling them.
Those $2 toys are not even remotely in the same boat... ik what ur talking about but those are imo the exact same as having a gumball machine with little toys in it, and the odds of getting them all are fairly equal, trust me, my sister collects hundreds of those as a hobby, it rarely takes her more than a $50 to get every single figure they can contain. Thats just a creative way of adding some rarity to them so they have a singular ounce of collector value. Granted there are a couple brands of them that ARE that bad and need to be put out of buisness but the vast majority are equal odds with maybe 1 rarer figure that has 50% as many made as the rest of the figures in that series but still not that rare that its gonna cost you more than $10 and a couple minutes of opening wrappers to get them. You also really cant complain about this and not bring up trading card games like pokemon which are the ACTUAL gambling toy thats ruining children.
Just straight up ban lootboxes and enforce bans where there are lootboxes. Make items have value because you need to grind for them or give them special quirks and put them solo in a shop. For example, im absolutely happy to pay 5€ for a name change thats special for me.
Loot boxes are actually dependent on the country, since in my game design class we had to decided if it was or not
If your game is purchasable in a country, the developers have to follow that countries laws, so pf all the countries the game is playble in they have to follow the laws of ALL of those countries at the same time, thats why so few games made outside of china ever get released there, bc their laws are really hard to follow if you arent a chinese game developer whos been dealing with their video game laws for years already
While countries where its allowed wont have issue with it, the developers can and will still be getting in trouble for breaking the law in countries that dont allow it
4am and a mister epic video is out. No sleep tonight...
i love the implication that Minecraft care about their own Usage Guidelines. I tried asking about Minecraft’s brand partnership with the NZ National Political Party, to which I was told to put a feature request, and then got banned from the feature/bug request form for being political…
"if your political views dont match the hivemind, youre banned" 😅 what? actually insane behavior. Im slowly starting to despise my childrens blocc game. Also questioning why and who they team up with is a good thing bec too many companies wont actually look into groups or ideas before just accepting money. Thats why many youtubers still shill betterhelp even though its a MASSIVE scam
The mister epic slowly becoming a Minecraft journalist
Slight nitpick but at 5:47, you'd want to calculate the probability of getting 2 *or less*, which comes out to about 0.0004162%
I did do that as well, but there wasn't any online calculator to display it for the video, so I just did the probability of exactly 2 as the odds are almost identical anyways
i think would have been good to mention that inside the video @@TheMisterEpic
Was just going to comment this
Dcdv@@schwingedeshaehers
ORIGIN REALMS MENTIONED
Good to see the Habbo Hotel scam rooms are alive and well.
Crazy how ubiquitous deceptive and scammy behavior is across basically every online community and platform.
bro the last time i watched one of ur vids was when u were at 200k subs keep up the good work
6:00 Not sure if anyone else pointed it out but you shouldn't just look at the probability of exactly 2 positive results, you should consider the probability of 2 results or fewer, since any one single outcome is relatively unlikely, That being said, in this case it doesn't really affect the probability too much as the odds of receiving 2, 1 or 0 drops only brings the total up to 0.00042%, up from 0.00037%
Can't wait until this man discovers mine but servers...
I would also like to point out some points about the psychology of the main age demographic (12-18 year olds). Many psychological studies have demonstrated that teenagers are risk averse. Teenagers are more likely to participate in risk based activities simply BECAUSE there is risk, and even more so when the ODDS of an outcome ARE UNCLEAR. In other words, teenagers seek ambiguity in their decision making to learn about the world more. Not only this, but in the brain the "reward" pathway develops much faster than the decision making and assessment regions (the prefrontal cortex) which doesn't finish developing until the age of 25. Furthermore, the effects of your peers are large. Some studies found the attitude of your peers is one of the major reasons teenagers participate in risk behaviour. The people on these servers likely look up to the youtubers running them, or could even have parasocial relationships with them, another factor potentially encouraging participation in the gambling side of a server.
When you factor this in with gambling in video games being widely accessible in so many different game types, and also addictive, the effects are quite widespread. These servers are not only taking advantage of people who don't have the time/resources/knowledge to complete the data analysis themselves, but are also capitalising on the fact their main demographic is developmentally not at the level to make proper decisions.
Although most people understand marketing gambling to under 18 yr olds is bad, I think it's equally important to know more about WHY it's so bad. The morals of these people become more questionable when you really consider the developmental stages of the main demographic.
SOURCES:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28098227/
www.researchgate.net/publication/254081726_Who_Takes_Risks_When_and_Why_Determinants_of_Risk_Taking
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25089362/
www.researchgate.net/publication/369324684_Effects_of_peer_observation_on_risky_decision-making_in_adolescence_A_meta-analytic_review
Just as a disclaimer, the information as i displayed in my comment are taken mainly from a university lecture, the sources listed were listed within the lecture itself.
you know you're fucked when TheMisterEpic joins your server
Server: Gambling.
MisterEpic: So I decided to go Casey Jones on this serer....
I got an online casino ad before this 😂
Someone’s gotta make real life loot boxes and crates so they can be considered a real type of gambling and all these servers have to stop
Google monthly boxes for me rq and get back to me. Its already a multibillion dollar industry that sells you cheaply made garbage you wouldnt normally buy buy bc you dont know what ur getting until it gets there 🤷♂️
hey 8:45 that’s me
The legal definition of gambling in most jurisdictions requires that the prizes you can win must have a real-world monetary value. Some places are changing this, but it's slow going.
I don't want to defend anyone, but the written "winning chance" may indeed be correct but the crates plugin itself has the wrong working chances. I have tried a few of these, especially free ones, and even though I had a few items with 1% or 10% chance written on them, I was getting everything exactly the same, as if there was no winning chance at all...
While its disguisting to see server owners like Preston exploit young children. I have to question the fact that parents of said children are doing nothing in all of this, its almost safe to say that they deserve to get scammed due to negligence and ignorance. They seem to just not care and they keep giving money to their children without supervision.
I totally agree. We can't have age verification on everything just because parents don't care about their children. So now are we going to ban all gacha games because parents can't look what their child spends money on? I even saw teens (age 14-16) playing online casinos even when you need to verify with your ID. And who's fault is that that these kids are playing illegally? Casino's? Because they didn't do enough to protect these kids? Is it a fault of 18+ site that kid is accessing their site?
Crates shouldn't be there on Minecraft servers, but still, it's not only responsibility of server owner or Mojang to look after not their kids.
Keep doing your thing, Epic.
This whole thing will come to a front eventually... hopefully.
I hate how most servers have become a cash grab.
I feel sorry for you buddy, always having to do math, love the videos, keep on counting for us
Oh damn I’m never this early. Popcorn is going in the microwave
something i think would be interesting to investigate is modded servers like pixelmon and other massive mods that have servers. a unchecked corner of minecraft servers
as a programmer who has worked with randomness before I can definitely say that the odds on cosmic are rigged.
as true randomness would not even be close to what is shown.
the only way is to boost or reduce certain results.
for example you can generate a number between 1 and 10 and then generate a coin flip for every number that is not 10.
that would mean that every number except 10 will have a 1/20 chance of winning vs 1/10 for the number 10.
this would show as every number except 10 having a result that is closer to 1/20 than 1/10.
Bro I swear to you, I thought that was James Charles on the thumbnail.
They are always gonna do this, thank you for doing mojangs job
You need to start saying Microsoft instead of Mojang in these videos.
If Microsoft starts getting bad rep, then the hammer will actually come down, but right now you're giving them a shield - Mojang. It is Microsoft enabling and encouraging child gambling because it's convienent for them, or it would be inconvienent to actually moderate these servers. Microsoft have the sort of sway where they could outright have paypal block minecraft stores selling keys, as they already do for unbans.
5:20 To be fair to them, this might not have even been their issue at all. Chance and probability are a very difficult thing to calculate.
When opening crates, you have to get closer to millions of crates to see the actual distribution... More information on this later...
You're my favorite minecraft youtuber
we need to make a petition so mojang ACTUALLY enforces their eula
The prisons thing could be fixed SO EASILY by just selecting a random number between 1 and 250 and that number is the winning entry number.
This is pretty clever advertising
Some of your math is a tiny bit skewed. For example, you should have calculated the probability of getting 2 crate keys with 3,500 _or less_ loot boxes. That said, the difference here is pretty microscopic, so this wouldn't have affected your main point. I suppose you probably wanted to keep things simpler for the RUclips audience, too, so you're probably more right than me...
We need to interview FINNSTER. He was featured so much on the server. He should know SOMETHING about it's gambling
Yeah and he was Stampys helper once in a video called naughty helpers
Cosmic gave "influencers" crates with higher rates... why do you think they ALWAYS got something good? It was intentionally set up to make people go "wow he got a president rank from that? Thats crazy ive gotta go and spend my moms retirement on crates so i can get one" 😒
Not to mention F1NN doesnt need that kind of harrassment over a server that doestn exist anymore giving them promotional crates to advertise them, that was before the days where you had to disclose when you had been paid to say or do something for marketing
Minecadia does this too will put items you genuinely can’t win in their Lootboxes or their “hype boxes”
big servers can host hundreds if not thousands per month for a bunch of servers that can hold a lot of players each monitization may suck but they give people the ability to play on them for free a way to otherwise how would the servers be around without the money to sustain the costs
while yes u can host your own servers too that would cost a lot of money up front plus maintance and electristity and a whole rack of servers can use a decent amount of power
Mojang should contract you to dupe keys and run a drop rate check
Gambling, by many people's definition, including, in many cases, the law, is if you can make real money with it through intended means. The reason most servers aren't allowed is because, despite loot boxes being allowed, pay-to-win isn't, making most loot boxes illegal. Note that Hypixel contains lootboxes, but they're never pay-to-win so Hypixel doesnt break the TOS. (correct me if I'm wrong)
The rules about Requiring to list the drops and drop chances of items is actually a law in the EU
I decided to check it out and CosmicPVP got shut down a day after he uploaded this. I used to play cosmic prisons just because of the gambling systems lol
server with gambling exists
dude with Python and data analysis knowledge: *im about to end this dude career*
Under ten minutes 2.2k views? Bruh you popped off
If the keys and tickets have to be bought from a website, you could also report them to google and get the sites taken down.
Love the mod claiming that it was fixed when VERY CLEARLY all they did was slightly increase the rates of the rest of the slots before the last one so that the chart looked slightly more legtimate... the shit preston, woofless and their mod team got away with should honestly have every single one of them facing prison time bc cosmic was really nothing more than a get rich quick scheme carefully planned to exploit minors, not to mention that offering gambling of any kind to a minor is in itself an actual crime.
If I had a Minecraft Server and it had gambling. I’d have it only for those who vote and play on the server. If you wanted to buy something specific, it would be *server name*’s luck where you’d get to choose the item that you’d want from the loot table and maybe some older events/seasons would be worked into keeping the server afloat. You aren’t paying to win. It’s paying for drip/cosmetics
I love how he says “no pressure ofc” it makes me wanna make a new account and subscribe again
above the "no gambling rule", it says don't do anything illegal. Having minors gamble is illegal as its required to be either 18 or 21 in the whole US.
The odds for the melon smp chests are worse than you think because your data is influenced by stopping bias. It is actually much worse than you calculated
I got an ad for online gambling with this video
Mojang is too busy fixing real problems like banning people in public chats to care about this
finally my ap statistics skills being put to use
I'm surprised that servers haven't started using gacha-style pity systems. Gacha pity has its own problems, but it's at least slightly less exploitative than common crate systems on servers.
Mojang in a nutshell…
Server runs a literal casino: I sleep
Server run a mod with guns: YOU STOP THAT SHIT RIGHT NOW
I think loot boxes are fine if all the ways the earn the stuff to open them is through in game achievment. Where I think it draws the line at, is when you can use real money to buy packages and in game moneys.
This is the first time I’ve seen a useful use of a binomial distribution 💀
Gambling is the heinous and huge problem in my country, it's bigger than the gun problem. Creating a gambling system is the same energy as make a habit of gambling irl. Not only do the kids become victim, but the parents are also victims too.