I'm sorry to say but ur comments section failed u last video . Veldora is not stronger than millim they haven't confirmed who is stronger even I'm the manga and LN .
She’s so precious.. Rimuru was really worried/scared to fight Milim but it’s a good thing he has Veldora has an ally cos he covers his weakness & shields him from true demons like Guy n dragons. RIMURU escaped death twice w/ the holy knight & now Milim in Walpurgis. Leon was onto something.. “if you make it out of here alive”
@@howlbeast leon isnt up to anything. He also think milim under control thats why he said that to rimuru but in the end it was just an acting. So that statement is nothing
stuff weren't mentioned/ easter eggs: 1. The reason why shion couldn't be controlled is because she is a wicked oni. Since shion was resurrected she dosen't think with her brain, she thinks with her soul so it dosen't matter if she is killed again, Blow her head off, or someone tries to brain control her she will always keep her memories and control over them. That's the reason crayman's spell didn't work on her. 2. How milim was able to fool everyone with her poker face is because SHE HATES vegetables. She would put a piece of vegetable on her mouth making her have those soulless eyes. 3. veldora actually never use street fighter moves on the light novel or in the manga only the dragon ball moves. The studio that made slime just added them to make it more interesting in this episode.
He got a temporary awakening to true demon lord became of his determination. Also that voice which confirmed clayman's awakening was Voice of the World/ Words of the World. It's like manager of this whole world and makes important announcements to everyone. It just has same voice as Raphael so don't get confused between them.
Yeah. Words of the World said "converting soul to energy". The way I see it, he's sacrificing himself to gain power. His final wish for his life. He'll probably die by the end of this, either killed, or on his own.
One Question: is the Voice of the World somehow linked to Raphael or is Raphael a part of the Voice of the World. I mean like well i know that Great Sage/Raphael is a Skill, but could it be that the skill came from Voice of the World?
@@falco05 Relation is just that when when rimuru got skill great sage, it needed a voice to communicate so it chose the same voice as voice of the world, also voice of the world is also a skill belonging to god of that world, Veldanava.
@@falco05 Also you remember when rimuru was getting reincarnated, at that time voice talking to him and giving him skills was voice of the world, so yeah technically all skills come from voice of the world.
Regarding Clayman's awakening: Without giving away info that's probably gonna be part of the next episode, I'd suggest thinking back to Rimuru's awakening as a True Demon Lord: Rimuru started off with killing around 5'500 people. He then talked to King Edmalis before using his newly acquired skill "Merciless" to kill the remainining ca. 14'500 people, for a total of just about 20'000 souls. He then immediately lost strength and control over his own body ["The Harvest festival cannot be halted once it has begun"] and became exceptionally sleepy. He summoned Diablo, instructed Ranga and then turned back into a slime and fell unconscious. Ranga carried him back to Tempest, where Rimuru then experienced his transformation. After the transformation, his followers received their gifts and fell asleep, followed by Raphael resurrecting the dead. Rimuru woke up around 3 days later, if I remember that number correctly. In this episode, we see Clayman powering up immensely right on the spot. A simple deduction we can make from this is that Clayman did not experience the same type of awakening as Rimuru did.
Clayman has been collecting power/souls for ~200ish years. He is converting the souls he has, plus emotions of hatred of those who died cursing him into energy through his drive to be strong/useful for his comrades/creator. There is probably a hard number for how much power you need, but it likely varies somewhat based on the person in question. Rimuru's forces had killed about 50,000 Orcs, consumed the Orc Disaster, Charybdis and that wind dragon when he was in the human realm. The 20,000 human souls were enough to complete the requirements for him to awaken. He might of only need 10,000 but he got 20,000.
In a earlier episode, they said only human souls count towards awakening the demon lord seed. And there wasn't a fixed number of souls he needed, but the more souls he got, the better the percentage of success to awaken as a demon lord. Probably the strength of the souls is a factor too.
Milim isn't just the daughter of a true dragon.. she's also a true demon lord.. so at this point we can't know for sure if veldora is in fact stonger than her or not
She has unlimited energy and has that Drago Nova blast that she harnesses that unlimited energy into. So that’s why everyone considers her stronger. Every other being cannot produce more magicules, they are limited to what they have. But if Milim gets a chance to unleash that attack, she could shoot it at you forever. No one could survive that unless they have the right skills to deflect that, or somehow interrupt her magicule production, or trap her into a different dimension.
Someone told me that Guy Crimson is technically more powerful than Milim but Milim's skill and power is more suited for battle so she would win in a fight and also that Veldora is not as powerful as Milim and that there are in fact like 3 or more characters so far that can be considered stronger than him
He is a true demon lord now, to be able to awaken you dont necessarily need 10000 souls the reason rimiru need 10k was because he already had a demon lord seed(which he obtained after eating the orc demon lord) and in order to sprout that seed he needed to supplement it with 10k souls
Nope, he is not a true demon lord because he did not undergo harvest festival. What happens to him is that all the souls in his possession are being forcefully converted into energy. He only had a power of a pseudo demon lord because a true demon lord will acquire an ultimate skill like rimuru
Okay this will be a bit of spoiler,since i will explain stuff from the light novel. Read at your own discretion. What clayman is doing is converting the souls he already had into power,not into true demon lord awakening. He gets the magicule capacity of one,but his skills and resistances don't evolve like with any other,since the harvest festival doesn't trigger. That's why you need the 10k or so souls. It's not 10k,but it's about that number or more. That's why clayman was trying. You need to become a seed first,then nurture the seed with the souls to get the full value. Imagine getting fully ripe demon lord seed vs clayman right now. You need to have the shittiest skills to not be able to get him. Even stuff like master chef does a lot of stuff for shion and you will probably get a lot more extra skills,maybe 1-2 uniques too depending on how your skills evolve,plus your current unique will probably evolve.
@@bgfighter2166 i know, but he did awaken its not from "proper means" and thats y their was no harvest, so essentially he awakened as a demon lord but in power alone he didn't get all perks that rimiru got, the way I see it its like buying patron(just here me out here) let's say rimiru brought the whole 30$ patron with his own card so he got the full early reaction(become a demon lord)and a whole bunch of perks(and all the skill buffs and stuff) while clayman stole his moms card and and bought the 5$ patron that only come with the full early reactions,........ but at the end of the day does it really matter he gonna get washed REGARDLESS
I think the "world voice" (or whatever it is called) explains it at 12:38 - 12:44 or 21:33 onward on the actual episode. I understood that as him converting his own soul for more power (subtitles say 'soul' instead of 'souls'), and the crazy joker style laugh at the end. And Rimuru needed him to transform so all the soul fragments from his victims can be released. No idea why he wants to release the souls or why the transformation was needed, maybe it's just Rimuru being a nice guy, again.
If you recall the moment Veldora's seal got undone, he was already doing manga/anime references by then. I saw do Yusuke's Spirit Gun among a number of classic references and also did a Super Saiyan bit when he compressed his presence.
I mean it was obvious from the very start that millim wasn't under his control... One of the oldest demon Lords gets controlled by some fresh of the boat demon Lord.... Yeah next joke.
FUN FACT : The ending of last ep where you see Veldora in “pain” and whining wasn’t from Milims punch, if not it was from what Rimuru did to him about the manga.
True. In the manga, Veldora showed up not just because he wanted the latest issue, but rather Rimuru had put a different cover on a manga book, meaning Veldora couldn't read the next volume.
And here we go again with the anime that does not explain anything. Yep, Milim is the daughter of Veldanava, the Star King Dragon. One of the true dragons and the strongest among them. When he was alive, he was the only being who was able to be stronger than Guy Crimson. About Milim being under control, never happened. One of her power resign in her eyes. She has a perfect view on everything she is watching, like an permanent ultra-appraisal. So she noticed the Demon Control curse in the same moment Frey presented the jewel to her, and she "accepted" it to fool Clayman, but she is totally immune to that kind of curses. Clayman is a member of the Moderate Jesters, the group of undead servants created by a previous demon lord, the Undead Lord Kazaream (he was resuscitated and now he is in the body of Yuuki's secretary, with that body but with Kazaream mind and memories). Laplace, Footman and Teare are specialized on combat, Clayman instead was created with the specific idea to be an "intellectual" and a leader. Created not to fighting but to lead an army. And those "Dragon Claws" are the weapon promised to Milim by Rimuru during the first season. They have the effect to suppress over 90% of the owner physical strength, so Milim was able to play and train with Rimuru, Gobta and the others without thinking about suppressing herself to not hurt them. And about the last scenes, yeah now Clayman did an half-awakening (he did not get enough souls for a full awakening) and he is stronger now, but still he is not a true demon lord, so he is way below Rimuru and all the others True Demon Lords. It's just that he is not controling his magicules like the others. If the other true demon lords don't control their magicules, they would influence the entire area (it's like Veldora, that in the past did not control his magic and all those magicules were able to insta-kill every monster and being below B-rank, if they were too close to him).
trivia, actually the time when guy saw that clayman punched milim, he actually decided that clayman isnt leaving walpurgis alive (that is if rimuru didnt kill clayman himself )
Fun fact the guy they showed at the bar with clayman was the other otherworlder. Won't spoil none but all I'll say is he gives rim a run for his money.
The voice of the world is played by the same voice actor as Raphael so it makes one think its the same voice but they are two different people/entities i believe
and also, fallen angel isnt technically the most accurate term for dino's race, hes an angel yes but his nature is demonic through the spell "holy-demonic reversal/conversion" if im not mistaken.
Yup....Milim was undercover, Veldora(in the manga) summoned himself because Rimiru pranked him by switching out a manga cover, Carrion should have said about Claybitch's power-up "Frey and I couldn't beat him now," Claybitch's power-up is a temporary "awakening" which is less powerful and has a time limit, and Milim was supposed ti be the last one to trench Claybitch when he went after Frey for her "betrayal" and Rimiru should have had a sword fight with him, but Shion got put in instead, which doesn't make sense- Shion isn't even upset about being murdered anymore yet Rimiru is BEYOND livid about his family being attacked and killed, plus, shouldn't the studio have kept in Milim getting a good hit in after all the crap she put up with?!.
Red, this is my speculation ; Back to season one when Tempest visited by Charybdis and put Milim BFF aka Rimuru in danger. Milim didn't like that, she took off from Tempest to investigate it and find out that was Clayman who pull the string, then she want to know why and what. Walpurgis is like friend gathering for Milim and Ramiris.
Not Spoiler! Just some info The one that talked to Clayman was not Raphael, but rather the Words of the World. It is a system of that world that announces certain events, like if an individual were to get skills or power it notifies that person.
The next episode will explain in perfect detail why Rinmaru expected the awakening and why those souls needed to be released 1st, the reason will make sense I promise and no spoiler from me
Okay let me explain something. Among the ten Demon Lords there are 2 types, those awakened becoming true demon lords like guy crimson,milim, rimuru and those that are not like clayman, Frey, carrion and only proclaimed themselves demon lord by attaining power and control. Shion here was already boosted since she evolved as well and attained new levels of power that's why clayman was so easy. And clayman was stated to be really weak in terms of combat abilities because his skills are more used in covert and more concentrated in puppet and control. Anyone can gain the demon lord seed but there are demon lords which cannot be awakened like ramiris, dagruel. Although Ramiris in her prime was enough to keep guy crimson in check.
Its unlikely Veldora could beat Milim if she goes into rage mode. This is practically stated by Rimuru after a certain incident in the more recent volumes. In the original WN she is stronger tho no doubt.
Clayman was a Demon Lord Seed, what Rimuru was before he completed the Harvest Festival. He had insufficient souls to achieve True Demon Lord/Awakened Demon Lord level. 300 years ago, when Clayman became a Demon Lord, he began hunting down Majin and monsters to steal their hearts (literally). Making them swear loyalty to him, he inscribed a curse onto their hearts, making them his eternal servants (That's what he did to Mjurran before Rimuru gave her a new heart). He also used there souls to create his puppets. After being manipulated by Rimuru into pseudo-awakening himself, which released the souls. It's only a temp awakening without the souls to fuel it. Small Spoiler: Clayman is DOOMED. - call me Captain Obvious.
The Voice of the World, aka what spoke to and gave Clayman power. It created a special condition for Clayman specifically in response to his desire. This isn't like the Harvest Festival for Rimuru. Clayman didn't get any new skills nor did his race change. The anime added that Rimuru wanted to release the souls but the souls were converted to magicules so Clayman could grow stronger anyway. I GUESS that counts as releasing them. Regardless they may clarify more next episode. Main reason for allowing this is for Rimuru to prove himself and dispell any doubt about him being worthy of the title.
Everybody think shion is still a kijin but she evolved in to sumthing more powerfull when she was brought back from the dead that why clayman was so weak against her......... FYI.....at the moment she is called a WICKED ONII( spirit class monster)
I think the universe where raphael originated was used by raphael itself to clayman that it will be beneficial, not for clayman but for rimuru's upgrade sake. Also for some DB sensitive fans out there (not all, i said some), they asked permission, and DB permitted them to use it.)
Actually being a Light novel reader, veldora isn't stronger than Milim especially when she is using her ultimate skill wrathful king Satan and mana breed reactor. She also has her battle mode. The longer she fights the stronger she gets. Most people that say veldora is stronger are manga reader or just base it off the fact that veldora is one of true dragons. But milim inherited most of veldanava powers. Veldanava was way way way overpowered. Not even all demon lords and true dragons could beat him
Yeah. Regarding Clayman, it seems like a standard awakening and not a True Demon Lord one. Reason being that typically there's supposed to be a Harvest Festival to commence. But Clayman had a spontaneous awakening so I don't think they're the same.
He didn't exactly awaken as a true demon lord, the "voice of the world" gave him power because of his determination and will to fight. The voice of the world is the law that gives out announcements and carries the will of the world. As well as grant wishes to those that are "worthy" (have power, influence, a will to fight on, etc.)
Because they follow the light novel. Fuse ironed the details out when he released the light novel. According to him, the light novel is plenty different from the web novel and will be the canon storyline. He cleared power levels, added antagonists and changed some smaller details so we cannot infer to the web novel anymore. At least until the walpurgis arc forward.
Clayman's awakening is an incomplete one, so although he did evolve into a True Demon Lord he did not get all the perks that come with being one. If Rimuru became 10x more powerful after his evolution, Clayman only got a fraction of what Rimuru got.
@@mandeepsodhi1059 yes, they are. The title "Demon Lord" is more like a political status in Tensura, on the other hand, "True Demon Lord" or "Awakened Demon Lord" is a species of high evolution with an existence recognized by the world itself. One can only awaken as a true demon lord after meeting several specific requirements, in which case the harvest festival (aquisition of human souls) shall commence. True demon lords are the highest and, in most cases, most powerful amongst monsters. But there exists another class called "Demon Lord Seed". They are being that have met the necessary requirements to start the harvest festival but have not yet evolved into a true demon lord. The orc disaster that Rimuru fought during season 1 was one such being. Carrion, Frey, and Clayman, for example, are demon lord's in status but they are not true demon lords, they are what's known as "demon lord-level" monsters, they are strong monsters that have enough strength to be recognized by humans as demon lords, but not powerful enough to fight against a true demon lord. Rimuru, Milim, and Guy are examples of true demon lords. All 3 of them are recognized by the world as true demon lords, went through the harvest festival, and have acquire immense power to rule over high-level monsters.
@@mandeepsodhi1059 these are information from the official sources. And yes, I did read the light novel up untill volume 17. I only gave you a rough explanation tho. For more detailed infos, I recommend watching a RUclipsr known as "AniNews", he gives more indepth explanations and cut content, if you're interested.
Clayman couldn't control Milim no matter what. Those with Ultimate Skills have VERY powerful will and soul. The only way to fight an Ultimate Skill user is with another Ultimate Skill. Currently there only 4 of them within the demon lords in S2 and they are Guy's Prideful King Lucifer, Milim's Wrathful King Satan, Leon's Purity King Metatron and Rimuru's Wisdom King Raphael, Greedy King Beelzbub, Storm King Veldora, and Vow King Uriel.
Milhilm is always trying to play pranks on rimuru, you'll see from slime diaries. Also, when guy said she had a plan, the plan was that he'd give order to her to kill all demon lords n expose that he wanted to do that while also exposing to others he wanted to control her. Only guy saw through it, with Raphael and veldora cuz he knows. Someone who has ultimate skills (rimuru has 4) has to have mental fortitude strong enough to develop the unique ones and hence need a spell of that caliber to have a small chance at controlling them, obviously the necklace isn't at the level of ultimate skill (eg, Raphael is ultimate skill)
in other anime they bleep thr moves of other anime that the character is about to use.. just like the prison anime forgot the title, where they try to escape and one of them is using kamekameha
Milim caused all this pain and she was acting all along smh 😂💀
Nice one reaction , can you react to kakegurui one of anime from mappa cause that very good too
Remember milim likes to play panks on Rimuru this not the first time she have tried something like this
Milim was playing pranks with rimuru in SLIME DIARIES !!!
Clayman is now a true demon lord. There's nothing else to awaken to🤣 .
I'm sorry to say but ur comments section failed u last video . Veldora is not stronger than millim they haven't confirmed who is stronger even I'm the manga and LN .
Just imagine Veldora asking for the next volume of One Piece and being excited about how it'll end.
RED HAWK!! incoming
Now imagine him asking for the next Berserk volume 😂...😭
veldora about to do a gomu gomu no
Veldora: Gear 4th!!!!
@@3lch1v04 I thought the berserk was going to be continued by the writers assistants
KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAA
Insane cameo. Love how Veldora actually looks Super Saiyan when he fires the beam
he even has the aura of a super saiyan when he used the kamehameha.
Had me hype with that
ikr! i was out of my chair....
Dude forget that
He did the hadouken too that was more epic
for bonus points, in English he has the same VA that did Hercule/Mr. Satan in DBZ's English dub
Milim acting like decimating an entire kingdom is just a "small detail" is so funny.
I love her character.
She’s so precious.. Rimuru was really worried/scared to fight Milim but it’s a good thing he has Veldora has an ally cos he covers his weakness & shields him from true demons like Guy n dragons. RIMURU escaped death twice w/ the holy knight & now Milim in Walpurgis.
Leon was onto something.. “if you make it out of here alive”
She is indeed Veldora's niece
@@howlbeast leon isnt up to anything. He also think milim under control thats why he said that to rimuru but in the end it was just an acting. So that statement is nothing
I guess it runs in the family lol
Remember how Valdora told Rimuru how he destroyed a few towns and everyone overreacted and sealed him? It runs in the family I guess.
Laplace: wonder pierrot
Footman: angry pierrot
Tear: sad pierrot
Clayman: crazy pierrot
Incase y'all didn't catch it
I actually didn't catch that thanx bro
Black Clover and Boruto: studio pierrot
Ohh thx dude extra info in my head rn
@@fanoart8022 sure dude that's also how they're ranked in strength as well
Wow I know some of the manga and I didn’t even notice 😂 I’m not up to date on the manga tho
Rimuru turned all of Clayman's army into slaves, looted his place, and humiliated him in front of all the other demon lords. The savagery! 🤣
Man, I wouldn’t be surprised if Rimuru changed his shoes to look like Black 1s
Rimuru came for clayman like Uncle Sam & took everything
@@howlbeast so fitting
Rimuru is a pirate in the wrong anime world lol
@@howlbeast bro went for the knees and took the head too
Veldora's Kamehameha, Hadouken and other references were pleasing in the weeb eyes not just the eyes but the ears as well.
I just realized Milim has the same mannerism as Veldora. The way they laugh is literally the same.
family tree….
As uncle as niece 🤣
It’s a Dragon thing
@@alekvillarreal3470 How neither vegrynd or Velzard do it
@@vali4634 how do u know that? Never seen them laughing in anime and last one is not even shows actually
Best Boy Veldora is living the Weeb dream. Him spamming Hadoukens and used that Kamekameha was the highlight for me.
the attack right before kamehameha was actualy from Virtua Fighter... and they licenced SF VF and DB moves to use them
stuff weren't mentioned/ easter eggs:
1. The reason why shion couldn't be controlled is because she is a wicked oni. Since shion was resurrected she dosen't think with her brain, she thinks with her soul so it dosen't matter if she is killed again, Blow her head off, or someone tries to brain control her she will always keep her memories and control over them. That's the reason crayman's spell didn't work on her.
2. How milim was able to fool everyone with her poker face is because SHE HATES vegetables. She would put a piece of vegetable on her mouth making her have those soulless eyes.
3. veldora actually never use street fighter moves on the light novel or in the manga only the dragon ball moves. The studio that made slime just added them to make it more interesting in this episode.
Doesn’t she just hate raw vegetables, since the Middray only believes that vegetables are best served in their natural state (unprepared)?
@@Patogeno1000 correct. It was thanks to him
Veldora is for the culture... SALUTE to this OG! He made every anime fan jump up and gasp of excitement when he pulled the Kamehameha
He got a temporary awakening to true demon lord became of his determination. Also that voice which confirmed clayman's awakening was Voice of the World/ Words of the World. It's like manager of this whole world and makes important announcements to everyone. It just has same voice as Raphael so don't get confused between them.
Yeah. Words of the World said "converting soul to energy". The way I see it, he's sacrificing himself to gain power. His final wish for his life. He'll probably die by the end of this, either killed, or on his own.
One Question: is the Voice of the World somehow linked to Raphael or is Raphael a part of the Voice of the World.
I mean like well i know that Great Sage/Raphael is a Skill, but could it be that the skill came from Voice of the World?
@@falco05 Relation is just that when when rimuru got skill great sage, it needed a voice to communicate so it chose the same voice as voice of the world, also voice of the world is also a skill belonging to god of that world, Veldanava.
@@falco05 Also you remember when rimuru was getting reincarnated, at that time voice talking to him and giving him skills was voice of the world, so yeah technically all skills come from voice of the world.
@@harshitbadgamia3930 Ah Ok
Veldora needs to chill before he gets someone a copyright strike! I thought I was gonna die when he started spamming hadouken like an asshole.
They have permission from DB .
I’m sure smoke seeked authorisation to pay homage to street fighter & DBZ
they give credits and i think they ask for a permission so it'll be fine
@J. Davis Also when veldora is supresing his power he looks like a super saiyan and i think thats actually what he was doing.
They have permission, based from the listing in the end credit
Regarding Clayman's awakening: Without giving away info that's probably gonna be part of the next episode, I'd suggest thinking back to Rimuru's awakening as a True Demon Lord:
Rimuru started off with killing around 5'500 people. He then talked to King Edmalis before using his newly acquired skill "Merciless" to kill the remainining ca. 14'500 people, for a total of just about 20'000 souls. He then immediately lost strength and control over his own body ["The Harvest festival cannot be halted once it has begun"] and became exceptionally sleepy. He summoned Diablo, instructed Ranga and then turned back into a slime and fell unconscious. Ranga carried him back to Tempest, where Rimuru then experienced his transformation. After the transformation, his followers received their gifts and fell asleep, followed by Raphael resurrecting the dead. Rimuru woke up around 3 days later, if I remember that number correctly.
In this episode, we see Clayman powering up immensely right on the spot. A simple deduction we can make from this is that Clayman did not experience the same type of awakening as Rimuru did.
Rimuru : Milim is being controlled
Veldora & Raphael : But I don't th-
Rimuru : DID I STUTTER!!?
Clayman flattered himself to much in a game that he was not even a player of.
This tells me the other 3 members of the harlequin alliance also have transformations
If you go back a few episodes they said miliam has a built in self defense to mind control and the flows warned clayman lmao
Veldora is living the dream of every fan, perform the Kamehameha pose while it works.
Veldoras references were absolutely priceless.
What Clayman just obtained is like a Psudo Demonlordification. Its technically an evolution but its half baked.
Clayman has been collecting power/souls for ~200ish years. He is converting the souls he has, plus emotions of hatred of those who died cursing him into energy through his drive to be strong/useful for his comrades/creator.
There is probably a hard number for how much power you need, but it likely varies somewhat based on the person in question.
Rimuru's forces had killed about 50,000 Orcs, consumed the Orc Disaster, Charybdis and that wind dragon when he was in the human realm. The 20,000 human souls were enough to complete the requirements for him to awaken. He might of only need 10,000 but he got 20,000.
In a earlier episode, they said only human souls count towards awakening the demon lord seed. And there wasn't a fixed number of souls he needed, but the more souls he got, the better the percentage of success to awaken as a demon lord. Probably the strength of the souls is a factor too.
Milim isn't just the daughter of a true dragon.. she's also a true demon lord.. so at this point we can't know for sure if veldora is in fact stonger than her or not
@@mayeru8971 when did veldora mention hes weaker than milim?
@@marhamdimardeka3384 if you read the LN carefully, there are parts where it indirectly hints that milim is stronger than veldora
She has unlimited energy and has that Drago Nova blast that she harnesses that unlimited energy into. So that’s why everyone considers her stronger. Every other being cannot produce more magicules, they are limited to what they have. But if Milim gets a chance to unleash that attack, she could shoot it at you forever. No one could survive that unless they have the right skills to deflect that, or somehow interrupt her magicule production, or trap her into a different dimension.
@@memyoldie or you can just dodge🤣
Someone told me that Guy Crimson is technically more powerful than Milim but Milim's skill and power is more suited for battle so she would win in a fight and also that Veldora is not as powerful as Milim and that there are in fact like 3 or more characters so far that can be considered stronger than him
He became a temporary true demon lord because of the power of friendship!!
Veldora went SSJ2 with those lightning and everything 😂
He is a true demon lord now, to be able to awaken you dont necessarily need 10000 souls the reason rimiru need 10k was because he already had a demon lord seed(which he obtained after eating the orc demon lord) and in order to sprout that seed he needed to supplement it with 10k souls
Nope, he is not a true demon lord because he did not undergo harvest festival. What happens to him is that all the souls in his possession are being forcefully converted into energy. He only had a power of a pseudo demon lord because a true demon lord will acquire an ultimate skill like rimuru
Okay this will be a bit of spoiler,since i will explain stuff from the light novel. Read at your own discretion.
What clayman is doing is converting the souls he already had into power,not into true demon lord awakening. He gets the magicule capacity of one,but his skills and resistances don't evolve like with any other,since the harvest festival doesn't trigger. That's why you need the 10k or so souls. It's not 10k,but it's about that number or more. That's why clayman was trying. You need to become a seed first,then nurture the seed with the souls to get the full value. Imagine getting fully ripe demon lord seed vs clayman right now. You need to have the shittiest skills to not be able to get him. Even stuff like master chef does a lot of stuff for shion and you will probably get a lot more extra skills,maybe 1-2 uniques too depending on how your skills evolve,plus your current unique will probably evolve.
@@bgfighter2166 yeah as what I remember in LN clayman did awaken as True Demon Lord but only temporary awaken
He awakened but it's temporary. He only partly succeedes
@@bgfighter2166 i know, but he did awaken its not from "proper means" and thats y their was no harvest, so essentially he awakened as a demon lord but in power alone he didn't get all perks that rimiru got, the way I see it its like buying patron(just here me out here) let's say rimiru brought the whole 30$ patron with his own card so he got the full early reaction(become a demon lord)and a whole bunch of perks(and all the skill buffs and stuff) while clayman stole his moms card and and bought the 5$ patron that only come with the full early reactions,........ but at the end of the day does it really matter he gonna get washed REGARDLESS
I really enjoy watching you guys. Amazing energy 👏 was waiting for this episode.
claymans awakening was a temporary true demon lord power. he used his souls to become a temporary demon lord
Is Demon lord and true Demon lord different things?
@@mandeepsodhi1059 yes
@@amphora_gray what is it?
@@mandeepsodhi1059 demon lord is more of social title while true demon lord is an evolution
@@amphora_gray Rimuru is a demon lord and milim and guy and true Demon lord right
Veldora's kamehameha uwu
Lol, Google gives me option to translate to English and it just translates "uwu" to "this"
@@arnabbiswasalsodeep lul
Veldora is my new fav anime character now
I think the "world voice" (or whatever it is called) explains it at 12:38 - 12:44 or 21:33 onward on the actual episode.
I understood that as him converting his own soul for more power (subtitles say 'soul' instead of 'souls'), and the crazy joker style laugh at the end. And Rimuru needed him to transform so all the soul fragments from his victims can be released.
No idea why he wants to release the souls or why the transformation was needed, maybe it's just Rimuru being a nice guy, again.
The anime makes it seem like Clayman is weak, but don't be fooled it's just that Rimuru's gang are above average in strength.
If you recall the moment Veldora's seal got undone, he was already doing manga/anime references by then. I saw do Yusuke's Spirit Gun among a number of classic references and also did a Super Saiyan bit when he compressed his presence.
Veldora's next move: gomu gomu no gatling gun.
The pink " Dragon Mitts " were special made weapons that Rimerue had made for Millim.
I love how Veldora and Milim have the same laughingstyle xD
Uncle and niece both precious
To Milim, Clayman's punch is just like child's play. So not a big deal.
I think the real critical hit in this was when Shion was bound by energy and she was like "I don't feel a thing. Should I give it a little more time?"
Was waiting for your reaction♥️
can't wait to see veldora do a spirit bomb !
I mean it was obvious from the very start that millim wasn't under his control... One of the oldest demon Lords gets controlled by some fresh of the boat demon Lord.... Yeah next joke.
im just here waiting for clayman to scream on the last part KONO DIA DAAAAAAAAAA!!
Hahahahaha.. imagine Veldora read DBZ.. i done 🤣🤣🤣
FUN FACT : The ending of last ep where you see Veldora in “pain” and whining wasn’t from Milims punch, if not it was from what Rimuru did to him about the manga.
True. In the manga, Veldora showed up not just because he wanted the latest issue, but rather Rimuru had put a different cover on a manga book, meaning Veldora couldn't read the next volume.
No, Clayman's awakening is not a harvest festival and therefore only a pseudo-awakening...
Veldora made us remember the true classic moments And our childhood days
That punch wasn't gonna kill rimuru though. Remember she was never under control and she was holding back. She wouldn't kill her bestie
And here we go again with the anime that does not explain anything.
Yep, Milim is the daughter of Veldanava, the Star King Dragon. One of the true dragons and the strongest among them. When he was alive, he was the only being who was able to be stronger than Guy Crimson.
About Milim being under control, never happened. One of her power resign in her eyes. She has a perfect view on everything she is watching, like an permanent ultra-appraisal. So she noticed the Demon Control curse in the same moment Frey presented the jewel to her, and she "accepted" it to fool Clayman, but she is totally immune to that kind of curses.
Clayman is a member of the Moderate Jesters, the group of undead servants created by a previous demon lord, the Undead Lord Kazaream (he was resuscitated and now he is in the body of Yuuki's secretary, with that body but with Kazaream mind and memories). Laplace, Footman and Teare are specialized on combat, Clayman instead was created with the specific idea to be an "intellectual" and a leader. Created not to fighting but to lead an army.
And those "Dragon Claws" are the weapon promised to Milim by Rimuru during the first season. They have the effect to suppress over 90% of the owner physical strength, so Milim was able to play and train with Rimuru, Gobta and the others without thinking about suppressing herself to not hurt them.
And about the last scenes, yeah now Clayman did an half-awakening (he did not get enough souls for a full awakening) and he is stronger now, but still he is not a true demon lord, so he is way below Rimuru and all the others True Demon Lords. It's just that he is not controling his magicules like the others. If the other true demon lords don't control their magicules, they would influence the entire area (it's like Veldora, that in the past did not control his magic and all those magicules were able to insta-kill every monster and being below B-rank, if they were too close to him).
trivia, actually the time when guy saw that clayman punched milim, he actually decided that clayman isnt leaving walpurgis alive (that is if rimuru didnt kill clayman himself )
So he was fucked anyway.
If not guy dino would have killed clayman lol 😂😂 but anyway mah boi rimuru is there 🛐🛐
9:02 probably because Clayman's hit was too weak for her to notice
Let's be honest.
If we were in Veldora's position we'd try the same😂
If we have power to create energy and throw it we all would do anime attacks 😂😂
Its only this beginning 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Rimiru is going places!
Fun fact the guy they showed at the bar with clayman was the other otherworlder. Won't spoil none but all I'll say is he gives rim a run for his money.
The voice of the world is played by the same voice actor as Raphael so it makes one think its the same voice but they are two different people/entities i believe
Next episode: veldora learns ultra instinct
8:05
Toriyama Like this Scene😄
2:29 most people didn't listened it... You are a good listener 👍
Waiting for Veldora to use instant transmission
Nah he’ll use Destructo Disc or Solar Flare
and spirit bomb.
@@maelpsng we dont have time to wait 4 ep for spirit bomb to form
It would be cool if veldora used rasengan🤣
and also, fallen angel isnt technically the most accurate term for dino's race, hes an angel yes but his nature is demonic through the spell "holy-demonic reversal/conversion" if im not mistaken.
And the last scene is just the title "returning from the brink"
Yup....Milim was undercover, Veldora(in the manga) summoned himself because Rimiru pranked him by switching out a manga cover, Carrion should have said about Claybitch's power-up "Frey and I couldn't beat him now," Claybitch's power-up is a temporary "awakening" which is less powerful and has a time limit, and Milim was supposed ti be the last one to trench Claybitch when he went after Frey for her "betrayal" and Rimiru should have had a sword fight with him, but Shion got put in instead, which doesn't make sense- Shion isn't even upset about being murdered anymore yet Rimiru is BEYOND livid about his family being attacked and killed, plus, shouldn't the studio have kept in Milim getting a good hit in after all the crap she put up with?!.
They give clayman a power up just to get beaten. That should be in his character description
Remember that Rimuru can evolve easier than Clayman because the slime has Raphael, an Raph evolve with Rimuru
Red, this is my speculation ;
Back to season one when Tempest visited by Charybdis and put Milim BFF aka Rimuru in danger. Milim didn't like that, she took off from Tempest to investigate it and find out that was Clayman who pull the string, then she want to know why and what.
Walpurgis is like friend gathering for Milim and Ramiris.
Not Spoiler! Just some info
The one that talked to Clayman was not Raphael, but rather the Words of the World. It is a system of that world that announces certain events, like if an individual were to get skills or power it notifies that person.
I was waiting for rasengan😞
did anyone notice how little the skills Clayman acquired in his awakening while Rimuru got so much?
Because his is a temporary one . He only partially succeed
@@Anne-mn9fs oh yeah right he didn't the requirements
The next episode will explain in perfect detail why Rinmaru expected the awakening and why those souls needed to be released 1st, the reason will make sense I promise and no spoiler from me
Rimuru only used one move because he isn’t trying to expose all his skills to everyone else
Okay let me explain something. Among the ten Demon Lords there are 2 types, those awakened becoming true demon lords like guy crimson,milim, rimuru and those that are not like clayman, Frey, carrion and only proclaimed themselves demon lord by attaining power and control.
Shion here was already boosted since she evolved as well and attained new levels of power that's why clayman was so easy. And clayman was stated to be really weak in terms of combat abilities because his skills are more used in covert and more concentrated in puppet and control.
Anyone can gain the demon lord seed but there are demon lords which cannot be awakened like ramiris, dagruel. Although Ramiris in her prime was enough to keep guy crimson in check.
Its unlikely Veldora could beat Milim if she goes into rage mode. This is practically stated by Rimuru after a certain incident in the more recent volumes. In the original WN she is stronger tho no doubt.
Clayman was a Demon Lord Seed, what Rimuru was before he completed the Harvest Festival. He had insufficient souls to achieve True Demon Lord/Awakened Demon Lord level.
300 years ago, when Clayman became a Demon Lord, he began hunting down Majin and monsters to steal their hearts (literally). Making them swear loyalty to him, he inscribed a curse onto their hearts, making them his eternal servants (That's what he did to Mjurran before Rimuru gave her a new heart). He also used there souls to create his puppets.
After being manipulated by Rimuru into pseudo-awakening himself, which released the souls. It's only a temp awakening without the souls to fuel it.
Small Spoiler: Clayman is DOOMED.
- call me Captain Obvious.
Milim's father is a true dragon and the creator of the world of tensura
Veldora carried that entire episode, solo.
Shihon was solid support.
Been waiting to see this! Veldora stole this episode for me 🤣🤣
The Voice of the World, aka what spoke to and gave Clayman power. It created a special condition for Clayman specifically in response to his desire. This isn't like the Harvest Festival for Rimuru. Clayman didn't get any new skills nor did his race change.
The anime added that Rimuru wanted to release the souls but the souls were converted to magicules so Clayman could grow stronger anyway. I GUESS that counts as releasing them.
Regardless they may clarify more next episode. Main reason for allowing this is for Rimuru to prove himself and dispell any doubt about him being worthy of the title.
Everybody think shion is still a kijin but she evolved in to sumthing more powerfull when she was brought back from the dead that why clayman was so weak against her......... FYI.....at the moment she is called a WICKED ONII( spirit class monster)
I think the universe where raphael originated was used by raphael itself to clayman that it will be beneficial, not for clayman but for rimuru's upgrade sake.
Also for some DB sensitive fans out there (not all, i said some), they asked permission, and DB permitted them to use it.)
Raphael is rimurus skill what talked to cayman was words of the world they have the same voice actor sadly
Actually being a Light novel reader, veldora isn't stronger than Milim especially when she is using her ultimate skill wrathful king Satan and mana breed reactor. She also has her battle mode. The longer she fights the stronger she gets. Most people that say veldora is stronger are manga reader or just base it off the fact that veldora is one of true dragons. But milim inherited most of veldanava powers. Veldanava was way way way overpowered. Not even all demon lords and true dragons could beat him
Yeah. Regarding Clayman, it seems like a standard awakening and not a True Demon Lord one. Reason being that typically there's supposed to be a Harvest Festival to commence. But Clayman had a spontaneous awakening so I don't think they're the same.
Clayman crazy laugh tho lol
He just temporarily awaken
He is awakening as a temporary true demon lord.
Clayman is an Artificial Awakened
He didn't exactly awaken as a true demon lord, the "voice of the world" gave him power because of his determination and will to fight. The voice of the world is the law that gives out announcements and carries the will of the world. As well as grant wishes to those that are "worthy" (have power, influence, a will to fight on, etc.)
They are basically on equal footing, they can’t kill each other, that is more correct to say
Oh hell no veldora is stronger
Purple empress shion would humble a few people in that room
In the web novel this scene is different. He had an orb with souls to do this. They changed it for the anime I guess.
Because they follow the light novel. Fuse ironed the details out when he released the light novel. According to him, the light novel is plenty different from the web novel and will be the canon storyline. He cleared power levels, added antagonists and changed some smaller details so we cannot infer to the web novel anymore. At least until the walpurgis arc forward.
The anime is following Light novel,that's why
@@shuunosukesato4379 oh ok I see
Clayman's awakening is an incomplete one, so although he did evolve into a True Demon Lord he did not get all the perks that come with being one.
If Rimuru became 10x more powerful after his evolution, Clayman only got a fraction of what Rimuru got.
Is Demon lord and true Demon lord different?
@@mandeepsodhi1059 yes, they are. The title "Demon Lord" is more like a political status in Tensura, on the other hand, "True Demon Lord" or "Awakened Demon Lord" is a species of high evolution with an existence recognized by the world itself. One can only awaken as a true demon lord after meeting several specific requirements, in which case the harvest festival (aquisition of human souls) shall commence. True demon lords are the highest and, in most cases, most powerful amongst monsters.
But there exists another class called "Demon Lord Seed". They are being that have met the necessary requirements to start the harvest festival but have not yet evolved into a true demon lord. The orc disaster that Rimuru fought during season 1 was one such being.
Carrion, Frey, and Clayman, for example, are demon lord's in status but they are not true demon lords, they are what's known as "demon lord-level" monsters, they are strong monsters that have enough strength to be recognized by humans as demon lords, but not powerful enough to fight against a true demon lord.
Rimuru, Milim, and Guy are examples of true demon lords. All 3 of them are recognized by the world as true demon lords, went through the harvest festival, and have acquire immense power to rule over high-level monsters.
@@FrenchDinosaur is it your theory or is it stated in light Novel,,I am just curious to know
@@mandeepsodhi1059 these are information from the official sources. And yes, I did read the light novel up untill volume 17. I only gave you a rough explanation tho. For more detailed infos, I recommend watching a RUclipsr known as "AniNews", he gives more indepth explanations and cut content, if you're interested.
this is what happens when a goldfish thinks its a shark
Clayman hollowfied and still got dropped 😭😭
Clayman couldn't control Milim no matter what. Those with Ultimate Skills have VERY powerful will and soul. The only way to fight an Ultimate Skill user is with another Ultimate Skill. Currently there only 4 of them within the demon lords in S2 and they are Guy's Prideful King Lucifer, Milim's Wrathful King Satan, Leon's Purity King Metatron and Rimuru's Wisdom King Raphael, Greedy King Beelzbub, Storm King Veldora, and Vow King Uriel.
Milhilm is always trying to play pranks on rimuru, you'll see from slime diaries. Also, when guy said she had a plan, the plan was that he'd give order to her to kill all demon lords n expose that he wanted to do that while also exposing to others he wanted to control her. Only guy saw through it, with Raphael and veldora cuz he knows.
Someone who has ultimate skills (rimuru has 4) has to have mental fortitude strong enough to develop the unique ones and hence need a spell of that caliber to have a small chance at controlling them, obviously the necklace isn't at the level of ultimate skill (eg, Raphael is ultimate skill)
Veldora is Awesome maannn!!!! LOL
Demon lord ranks :
1. GREAT DEMON LORD (SPOILER )
2. TRUE DEMON LORD (ULTIMATE SKILLS )
3. AWAKEN DEMON LORD (CLAYMAN )
4. DEMON SEED
Demon seed?
Slime is top isekai
100% agree with that.
he planned to let all the souls free from clayman while killing him
Shion dead once so Raphael gave her the "gift" called complete memories that mind-controlled type attack won't be useful on her.
in other anime they bleep thr moves of other anime that the character is about to use.. just like the prison anime forgot the title, where they try to escape and one of them is using kamekameha