Can the BRICS challenge the EU?
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2024
- Does the European Union (EU) face a formidable rival in the form of BRICS, a group comprising Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa? This question gains further complexity with the recent expansion of BRICS, welcoming five new members - Iran, Saudi Arabia, Ethiopia, Egypt, and the UAE, now often referred to as BRICS+. The enlargement of BRICS into BRICS+ marks a significant shift, suggesting a growing and increasingly diverse coalition that could potentially challenge the EU's influence on the world stage. Our video delves into a detailed comparison between the original five BRICS countries and the EU, exploring the new BRICS+ members and potential future additions, to assess whether BRICS holds equivalent or greater power than the EU in global affairs.
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Fun fact : Canada was not on top seven largest economy in the world when the G7 was created
Hello @joshuagiftsoni4062
Fun fact: Canada is amerikas Boot Licking Lackey. Canada is nothing on the world stage.
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The EU does have "rivals" but it's absolutely not BRICS...
BRICS is a different thing... It's like a loosely connected economic union.
The EU is a supranational political and economic union that is far more connected to each other then BRICS.
Exactly it’s not meant to compete with the eu. It’s meant to compete with the G7
EU is FAR more interconnected than the BRICS. EU is truly political, economical and nowadays even cultural and ALMOST military block. EU is between confederation (decentralized federation) and federation (USA, Mexico, Brazil). EU is also very similar in religion, culture and history, so its naturally very united. And its political system is only DEMOCRACY. The only reason of Brics is to challenge the economical dominance of the West, that's so little for union. Brics nations have very different interests, completely different political systems (some are one party totalitarian, some are absolutist monarchies, some flawed democracies). There are many disputes between them and such differences will always result in conflicts and disputes in the future. China and India are periodically killing each others border armies and have many land disputes. Saudi Arabis has voluntarily US military bases. I would say even ASEAN is much closer cooperation than BRICS.
Even calling Brics an economic union is a massive overstatement. They don't have unified positions on pretty much anything. It's pretty much just the world's losers under one banner.
@@AggoenixOh Yes Poland and Czech Republic definitely has same religion.Sweden and Greece has same culture.Denmark and Italy has same history
@@Aggoenix exactly. BRICS is too weird to truly succeed. Iran and Saudi Arabia are literally enemies. China and India are enemies as well.
China alone is larger than the EU
Russia alone is stronger than the EU😂😂😂
That good one..
World largest Russia land cannot capture Ukraine..
World largest 3rd China land cannot capture Taiwan. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@f-35lightningii6
Dictatorships are so sad.
@@f-35lightningii6
China isn't a warmonger like the West.
@@f-35lightningii6 meanwhile the EU cant even defend themselves lol
China ist ein Sklavenhalter Staat der Westen ist eine Demokratie merkst du den Unterschied 😂@@maggiechan33
For the last time, BRICS and EU are COMPLETELY different things. One doesn't rival the other, because they are completely different. A basketball player does not rival the football player, they operate in different sports.
If you wanna talk about EU rivals, talk about Mercosur, the African Union, or ASEAN.
kind of ruining my big conclusion ;)
@@EUMadeSimple No Argentina? [Insert Megamind face]
For shame.
And still one must agree@@EUMadeSimple
it is true, but this does not mean that a certain antagonism cannot develop between the two factions.
If you look into the history of the EU, they didn't start as the EU, they started as "The European Coal and Steel Community".
BRICS is a discussion forum, not an union. It is intended to bring emergent economies together in order to advance their interests averse to the established powers like G7. If they got a rival, it is the G7 countries - not individually, but as a group. I am Brazilian and I must say that our current government is not into rising hostility against the West as Russia and China are, our policy is much closer to an Indian approach of working with both sides for the best outcome vis-à-vis our national interests. But we are even more Western-leaning than India, for we do feel a much stronger commitment towards democracy, internationalism, universal rights and world peace than Modi's India does. We just wish a more equal world-system, where countries in the Global South would stand on an equal footing alongside the so-called Global North, i.e., where the systematic differences between them would disappear. We want a world that truly abides to these core values: liberty, equality and fraternity.
Latin America is simply built different from Asia 🕊️
Its natural, Brazil is after all part of western civilisation, the same as Argentina or Chile. Its a mainly Christian country based on Portuguese and little less Spanish, indigenous and Italian cultures. BRICS is a weird block, neither political and neither fully economical. Those are completely different religions, ethnicities and interests. China and India are constantly killing each others border guards for decades. China is one party totalitarian regime with huge firewall internet blockade, India is a flawed democracy, Russia is authoritarian semi-democracy. Some are highly conservative, almost radical Muslim countries, some Hindu who naturally highly dislike Muslims often, some complete mix of everything. I believe Brazil would have more common interests with Europe, than with China, Russia, Saudi Arabia or South Africa. Also i find extremely funny this totalitarian axis of Russia-North Korea-Iran-Syria, people call it Axis of Evil lol. These countries are best at completely brainwashing and restricting its population and only build armies and missiles. Its soo SAD.
it is a discussion forum, but it seems that the ambition is to undermine Western dominance.
@@Aggoenix Yes, I was a bit disappointed at this rapprochement with such authoritarian regimes, in no way akin to our worldview. Nonetheless, BRICS exists for a tactical purpose, and therefore I think it is totally valid to play with them if our goal is to change how international power relations function. I do agree that Latin America is part of the Western civilization, but it is a lesser, cursed, bastard part, an impure offspring, and in no sense member of the geopolitical West. We here cannot act as if we were peers among the Western nations, sitting on theatrical roundtables or engaging in vacuous dialogue summits, for it will only entail the maintenance of our submissive position before nations which are systematically superior to us, whose superior standpoint is sustained by our status as oppressed nations.
We must work with the West, we must negotiate and discuss to build sincere, friendly alliances - specially with the EU, which is a somewhat progressive power in the world - but we will never have a real voice, we will never be respected, if we continue to speak softly. We are not independent yet.
@@hamsa7584 Because it is, that's what I said, and there is nothing wrong with it. 🧐
That's because Asia has been invaded colonized exploited and even fractured and it's people segregated by colonial powers for centuries. It gets to their psych a lot which is understandable.
Long live India🇮🇳❤🇲🇫France friendship .
Indian🇮🇳 map is not shown properly... Gilgit baltistan and aksai chin belong to🇮🇳 india... It's quite disappointing
Why are you upset? He didn't even show the EU correctly on the map
That map is for everyone outside Pakistan and India. Kashmir is still disputed in international eyes.
@@jati3149 EU has no territorial dispute
@@ahriboy whatever???? This map will never be accepted in India🇮🇳... Jai hind
BRICS+ is more of an equivalent to the G7, not the EU, and certainly not NATO.
yet...
NATO is nothing more than US Navy's life insurance policy for safety of EU, as you can't protect yourself without US support
@@MegaGabriHell I imagine how all these 'democratic' nations are coming together, thinking about China's approach towards Russians or Indians
BRICS comparing EU!!??!FUNNY
You can't compare G7 to that shit of an organization, G7 is 3 times bigger than that thing.
Brics is not as same as EU .so we cannot compare this brics and EU . BRICs is comparable with G7.
Brics is neither a political union nor an economic/trade union how can this project compete with eu?
@@Emperor-of-United-Bharatvarsh of course, it's like saying "a NATO without USA is useless".
But my point is that, looking at EU and BRICS as projects, BRICS is a totally different thing, it's just a meeting without bounding treaties or agreements, it's more like the G7. EU instead is a political, economic, judicial, regulatory and monetary union so it's not just a meeting
@@Emperor-of-United-Bharatvarsh right! By the way to me it's a very nice thing that countries try to cooperate. Also, i think that the UN must become the international regulator in terms of security and human rights, with the right to intervene in conflicts as peacekeeper
you patriotic Americans don't know what you're saying
It won't. Not directly at least.
I don't understand Westerners whining about the BRICS.
Europeans and Americans don't know shit about what it is, but they still always seem offended by it and try waaaay too hard to diminish it anyways.
Fragile ego, or fear that the "inferiors of the global south" may be secretly making plans to counter Western hegemony and dominate over the world? Boo oOoOooOooOOo 👽👻
History, "The European Coal and Steel Community"
Why must the BRICS challenge the EU? For the world's heavyweight boxing title?
Because the EU countries have invaded and enslaves the people of the BRICS and stolen their resources but together in their own separate economic and trade pact, bypassing the declining Europe and crashing USA, BRICS countries have a very bright future.
@@stanspb763
Good, we should do it again. LOL.
This video is like a student have been drunk for 4 years and suddenly start to write his graduation thesis. Turn this channel to cooking channel instead.
He'd burn down his kitchen😊
On the next episode, let's compare cars with apples.
🙂😆😅😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
BRICS is like the coolest organisation ever ❤
4:20 I would like to point out a small mistakes here: on the map of the European Union it is necessary to also mark the French overseas departments in yellow. ☺
and at around 6.40 in the video maybe also include Ireland in the EU map 🙂
6:32 Croatia is in the Schengen area
@@bioboertuur Ireland is not part of the Schengen Area
They also forgot to mention that Spain has territory in Africa, the Dutch have islands, Denmark has Greenland.
This needs to be reviewed. 😂
@@Magicus1 Nope, Carribean Netherlands, Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten are not part of the EU
it's so unusual as it has strong enemies in the same club.
India 🇮🇳 vs China (over China occupying their lands)
Egypt vs Ethiopia (over Nile)
Saudi Arabia vs Iran (which if you don't know until now, then you're definitely living under the rock) 😂😂
I though wish them the best. That's how economy and interests of the citizens are emphasized over politics.
You are very diplomatic and polite with your description of these rivalries. Not a bad thing!
Well sometimes a common goal can bring the worst of enemies together
@@aritraghosh4143 But what is their common goal?
Certain prorussian people like to tout BRICS as some sort of Anti-USA alliance. But I very much doubt that. There are too many different nations in BRICS, each of them have their own political stances.
So, I think the one goal they have in common is to increase trade and by doing so increase the wealth of each other's nation.
The western thinking, it's always a group against somebody else. That's the worst way thinking, extremely insecure. Maybe learn from the Chinese, a group work together for common goal and interest, who built with a principal. Don't look others, it's a fight between you and yourself. @@jonson856
@@jonson856The goal is collaboration in WTO and de dollarization.
Cmon BRICS invite Serbia in we want to leave EU path. We are ally of China and RUssia forever.
What would they do with a state that doesn't exist out to sea and surrounded by NATO.
BRICS is an economic alliance, its not anything like an EU equivalent
EU too is an economic alliance:/
The Brazilian economy is much larger than the Russian economy, around 2.228 trillion dollars, but that was barely mentioned. What's more, ecomists claim that by 2030 it could surpass Italy, taking the position of 8th place. It is worth remembering that in 2006, the Brazilian economy surpassed the British economy. We have great potential, despite the political problems.
UK economy is over 3 trillions:/ Cope more.
@@jeckjeck3119 uk will be overtaken by Brazil again so cry more
@@aniruddhsharma8996
Means very little when you have over billion people to sustain with that number.
But India much 10% cheaper than west and others country@@jeckjeck3119
There are three essentials to leadership: humility, clarity and courage ❤
Comparing BRICS is ridiculous. They are completely different in their nature, intent and formation. No similarity whatsoever.
Everyone with a brain knows that it will quickly transform, or attempt to.
@@Gr1mPenguin There is a great silver lining. Until it actually happens we can't say anything. Unlike NATO or EU, BRICS countries aren't really friends neither they share the same values.
You forgot an important point ☝️ EU and BRICS are also completely different interms of population, purchasing power and natural and mineral resources.
Although many say no, BRICS is a cooperative organization with a great future. All the nations that make up the group were centers of European exploration that inspired freedom against colonialism. Brazil by Portugal, China, India and South Africa by the British were greatly explored, Russia has always been an axis against Western Europe.
Probably the main reason for most that want to join BRICS. But I don't think countries like China and Russia have the best interest of African countries.
@@robinjulien5163 They're all getting duped thanks to this current atmosphere, the slight notion the western might lose influence is getting them wet. Ask those who are being literally devoured by the predatory belt and road initiative how it all works, like Sri-Lanka.
Funny you say that -- from all those only Brazil was not already there when it was colonized
The move to a multipolar world is irreversible. The G7 had their moment in the sun but all things must come to an end.
LOL, don't come crying to west when you get what you asked for;)
@@jeckjeck3119 No one will come crying to the west because they'll be finished. Except for the US, the west has terrible demographics with an ageing population. Europe doesn't produce anything of value that the rest of the world needs. And even the much vaunted German car industry has been overtaken by the Chinese in electric vehicle production. Your future is bleak.
@@freedommI agree
@@jeckjeck3119 more like olaf, yellen and blinken are begging in china
The question should be: could the EU challenge the BRICS?
BRICS has better access to natural resources, the EU will have difficulties. That's the big difference between those Organisations.
Another good question is, what does "challenge" mean?
@@tomorrowneverdies567 EU with NATO counterparts likely to start wars and overthrow Governments to suit their benefits.
@@rhyceise9000LOL the West have been civilized and rich even before the discovery of these resources. Oil in the nearest future, may have been a thing of the past. The US and the EU are BRICS largest trading partners even more than BRICS trades withing themselves.
The question is RATHER WHY??? Brazil, saudi arabia, even china and many more will do their own thing and trade with the EU and won´t stop because russia wants that!!!
God bless BRICS+5😘😘!
It depends on EU, if it wants to be challenged or cooperate.
BRICS is for everyone who wants to join.
Not at all .... Total 23 country shows interest to join brics .... Among them only 5 will be included 😊
Those brics members like Brazil or indi ... EVEN china will still trade with the west! In the moment it´s a free membership without any rules which keep them from deciding on their own!
The European Union borders two BRICS nations, one of which is currently absolutely hostile, while with the other the relationship changes depending on the government in office.
In the short term, I don't think the BRICS represent a threat, they are nations that are not very cohesive among themselves, who think of forming allies only for an anti-Western function. However, I believe that this could mean the end of absolute Western hegemony, which translates into the confirmation that no single European nation can have a say in a world dominated by super powers.
I like to change the perspective, a little bit. The global south it's on the same earth as NATO which is currently absolutely hostile to many other nations.
You seem confused, it's the American Hegemony not Western, sure the europeans are our valued allies but we won WWII, Europe caused it.
And there was no single European hegemon probably since the Roman empire - Europe was all about balance of powers and if some state started shooting quick, it got ganged up on by others
Brics is a group not an alliance.
Like g20.
The goal is to collaborate on trade issues and put a united front against US and EU at WTO.
@@himanshugurjar9002 we are talking about an alliance in the broad sense, not in the narrow sense.
it s more like india and china are rivals rather than brics vs ue , 6:35 actually you can include Romania and Bulgaria cause even not being in Schengen they can still move freely ( it's just a time consuming border check...)
Does EU have any smartphones or just arrogance
Yes brics ❤️
EU tears apart independence of their countries
But has more pro´s than con´s ;)
BRICS is a different forum only to connect themselves for progress & development . It is not too political . With the passage of time it may become a driving force to rule the world .
I'm Russian, but I don't have any special sympathy for the BRICS... I love the European Union 🇷🇺💖🇪🇺
The five eyes countries do not have much in common with EU.
In due course most of the EU countries would have close relationship with BRICS + than with five eyes.
The future is very bright for BRICS +.
Why even compare it to the EU. Its not even the same thing.
Also calling Zelensky world leader and put him in the same category as Biden is a absolute joke .
Both are corrupt and a joke
Yeah both are clowns, but one of them is a clown with power. Hence why mention them in the same category like they were "equal" @@stanspb763
Its more G7 vs BRICS , but seing what a weird gang BRICS is with only China and India having a long terms potential , but they cant decide where their own border should be
Ah yes, Iran and Saudi Arabia, for sure they will be on the same page about the politics of the world
The question you asked was "can BRICS challenge the EU" and the question you answered was "are BRICS and the EU the same thing"
Other fixes 😊
5:28: The European Union (France) also has a piece of the Amazon forest.
5:57 I believe the longest direct flight within the European Union is Paris-La Réunion
Funny how that's also the longest flight within France
@@corvus_monedula i think the longest flighti within France is Paris-Tahiti (French Polynesia)
France go out of América!!! Pirates
Brics+ will definitely bring economic relief to the 3rd world countries sharing their wealth in a more balanced way unlike the g7.Better business opportunities and social development less poverty and more prosperity.Not just to the colonialist power but power to all man kind
Brics is not EU and in future it won't, and it doesn't want to. Because it's made differently with different perspectives and idea's. It's okay that you are European and loves to defend, that's anybody would do.😅
And what has BRICS done for over 20 years? There is literally nothing to defend against:/
SAM (AKA brics) has nothing to show for as their achievement.
"Non-interference" value and Russia... come on people, coult there be bigger lie and hypocrisy?
How is it a lie?
@@stanspb763 Isn't that obvious? They have this bad habit to interfere, sometimes brutally in other country's businesses, don't you think?
@@stanspb763
Invading Ukraine for no reason seems like an interference to me.
Or china and their neighbours ... Why are they siding with the US ... Such a mystery ... Lez call the X Files ...
Thanks for this video ! It would be great to have the same kind of video with the African Union
That will come
EU is more like a country, while brics is a trading forum sort of thing.
I don't think there is comparison to be made.
@@gorilipuant yea, one centralized govt, one currency, one military force, free trade and movement of people, centralized law.
Is it not enough to be defined as a country?
@@gorilipuant you think your elected government has any power over centralized commission, lol
Nice talking to you, NPC.
Why all these economic migrants are shuffled and distributed into eurozone?
If you have sovereignty 😂😂
What do you think cbdc is for? It is centralization of currency.
But oh well, keep believing in fairytales.
Its not a trading forum, that is ASEAN. BRICS is a bank challenging IMF.
@@sobhansarthak6000 and were is the headquarter of this bank?
What is the base currency of this bank?
What is modus operandi of this bank?
@@wdmfan Shanghai is the headquarters with regional branches in Brazil and India. Bonds are in Chinese yuan and money traded is in USD. They offer credit to countries that will otherwise have to rely on expensive IMF loans, last year IMF backed out from a loan to build bridges and roads in Uganda because of LGBT rights issue yet they have no trouble patterning with middle eastern countries. Same thing with Sri Lanka, the neighbouring countries like India had to chip in with interest free loans to bail it out whereas IMF bail out procedure would have made the recovery slower. Bangladesh have had robust economy over last decade yet the credit rating is so low that they cannot avail the services of World Bank or IMF in a feasible manner. These issues are there hence BRICS started off as an economic forum and now it's basically led as a bank which is NDB. They are not looking to dismantle the west or US in anyway lol, they have never even said that it's only these media channels who parrot it.
Brazil: We want to participate in the G7, we want to make a deal Mercosur/EU, we want...
USA/UK/France: Shut up.
Brazil: Signs a deal with Indonesia, Congo, Cuba, China, Germany, Portugal, Spain, China,...
Brazil (Mercosur presidency): Signs a deal with Singapure, Vietnam, trying with EFTA and Canada.
Brazil (BRICS+): *Exists*
USA/UK/EU: Brazil is going backyards allying itself with enemies.
Hahaha.
LOL, talk about dumb takes.
India is the only BRICs country that has shown it can protect commercial shipping. Is India going to protect the ships of every BRICs country?
So those poor minorities aren't busy making money but causing trouble...and was the system fair in the first place to avoid the blood money spilling for it's protection
Lmao, China navy >>> poor India
Piracy on commercial shipping routes must not be tolerated by any country
Every country be it India, China, or USA must fight back against Somali and now Houthi Pirates
@@bineetgupta China hasn’t and everybody just sits back and lets the US handle it. At least India is now stepping up.
@@chillxxx241China is hopeless, and let's say it's even with the Houthis through IRAN
India can't wait for US all the time like the rest of the world, so stepping up anti-piracy operations was needed, which India did nicely
Brics is an economically, grobally and balance for the world peace and stabilizer and of interest conflicts.
I don’t think BRICS is about challenging anyone rather getting out of current global unilateral mode of working , it’s more about more fair working to enable these to make the most for their nations
It's goal is not to challenge but to allow for independent countries to have money and stock market and to remove the dollar because of printing abuse. So it is very different from the EU.if they bring back the gold standard...
Question of time to BRICS+ become union
This question in the title must be a rhetoric one. My advice to the EU, which of course will be completely ignored. Make a U-turn and safe what is still possible and turn away from thr US
Good thing we'll ignore your wet dreams, bro.
Its totaly wrong to compare something tangible with something intangible like comparing the population and the gdp to the EUs cohesion and the power that seaking as one state.
so eager that Britain fell off?
Maybe you can do a video like this about the African Union next time, as they are more similar to the EU than BRICS.
Also in the short bit you showed the Schengen area, Croatia was left out.
West has to get out of the mindset that 'Oh who are they are they new in the college? Perhaps they are threatening to us, oh no we might be doomed, we have to do something' 🤦
As soon as you guys stop whining about west not being you mommy.
@@jeckjeck3119 lol 🤣🫴 I think you didn't understood my comment. Is it bcoz English is not my first language? OK sorry for my broken English but the world knows who keeps on Whining about who 🤣🫴🫴🐷🖕 keep on Crying
"equality" lmao
Answer is short: no. Until now, the only power that mattered in BRICS, was the C. China. The rest wasted the opportunity to diversify their economies during the commodity boom
Even China is going through some economic and demographic dificulties these days, although not as bad as Russia, South Africa or Brazil.
The only country with high levels of economic and positive natural population growth is India.
@@diogorodrigues747 dont bother your self the Chinese will never accept it, they are like the newly rich people who have just got wealth. They think only they have become wealthy no other country can do what they have done and time is already over for rest of them specially India. That's how Chinese state propaganda works.
@@diogorodrigues747 China has never regarded India as a competitor, and the Indian economy is of different levels. From a GDP perspective, China's GDP in 2022 has exceeded the total of all EU member states. So, the competition chosen by the EU should not be the BRICS countries, there is really no need for this.
@@adder88 *and the Indian economy is of different levels.*
Yet. I wouldn't be surprised if the Indian economy actually surpasses the Chinese one in the next few decades, as they have seen astronomical levels of economic growth in the last years and still have a positive natural population growth, unlike China. Also the Chinese economy is not going through the greatest times, with a huge real estate bubble, a declining population and deflation.
*China's GDP in 2022 has exceeded the total of all EU member states.*
China has almost the double of population as the whole of Europe, so that's not minimaly surprising. In fact, the surprising thing would be that the GDP was below the EU, it only shows how poor China still is (not like in Mao's time, but it's still damn poor).
@@diogorodrigues747 China has never recognized itself as a developed country, but has always adhered to its position as a developing country. This is different from India. Of course, since India gained independence in 1947 and has been steadily developing without any external interference, it has experienced a regression in the 2023 Global Hunger Index ranking of 111, which is thought-provoking. The disorderly expansion of population, whether it is an opportunity or a burden, has been experienced by Chinese people and is very clear. When the ratio of population to resources is imbalanced, disasters will occur.
Remember when countries that are part of bricks stop exporting raw materials from Europe what do you expect would happen supermarkets everything is getting expensive here in Europe compare to last ten years.
Exactly Europe is Nothing without Natural resources 😂😂
12:00 Brics 5 area is 40 mil sq km while graph had error and showed only 4 mil sq km
Seriously though, the fact that member states are actually on the brink of conflicts for years if not decades now indicates they are not as stable as one might claim.
You mentioned China and India as the obvious example with both being nuclear powers, but let's not forget Saudi Arabia and Iran, both fighting multiple proxy wars and while having resumed diplomatic relations are still on the edge with each other.
Another point of conflict are Egypt and Ethopia as Ethiopia is threatening Egypt's water supply with it's massive dam (GERD) which Egypt warned it will simply destroy if its water supply is getting cut off by Ethiopia.
In conclusion: BRICS+ is even more unstable as BRICS was. Kinda makes sense Millei withdrew Argentina's application.
Yes I could have drawn from a whole host of examples
That troll made some stupid point's...why rigg the global socio-economic order to your sole benefit only but refuse to deal with the after effects and consequences of your policies...and if Argentina or the world will be saved by some fiat $€£ printed from thinair thou weaponised against those they don't like and insecure to compete fairly with...so why not allow Argentina or whoever to the printing press. So it was stupid of that country to avoid seeing it's mansion from the woods, bleep BRICS then but instigate a fair system in her place
I as South African, I understand why imperialist powers want BRICS to fail, but it won't
@@fanamlawuli6761South Africa is already a failed state
@@millevenon5853 According to white settlers
Specifically what makes the EU fundamentally different to BRICS is that membership is a complex process involving strict economic and democratic criteria. Most, if not all of the BRICS countries are totalitarian regimes with no accountabilities. The EU membership requires accountability on various fronts hence leading to a better quality of life within its borders. BRICS is not about individual rights, egalitarianism etc. It is just about being a platform for full and semi totalitarian regimes to some extent waning to ward off the American dominance the latter of which is understandable. Yet still, they do not constitute an alternative.
Atleast not a good one, especially if you value you're rights such as freedom of expression etc.
What BRICS are repressive regimes? You made several false statements repeating western propaganda. Anyone who claims that the US is more democratic than say Russia is completely misinformed by their own propaganda for example.
❤Thank you God, for with BRICs the rebuilding of our Universe will lead us to our kingdom comes with your chosen leaders of the difference countries❤
As a South African, I find it laughable that our country is part of an economic alliance when the government can’t afford to give us electricity 24/7.
EU is becoming more and more like NATO.
How?
BRICS is not strong enough to challenge the EU.
EU is much more established with military structure [NATO] , legal ICJ and ICC and last political concept - Democracy.
BRICS has more population but no structure except financial
But EU nato is useless and weak, its proxy war on Russia is clearly a total failure, NATO is useless. Where is democracy in Europe? The rule from Brussels has no connection to democracy. In every way Russia is more democratic and is more focused on the will and quality of life of citizens, not power groups or corporations. No EU country has a growing economy or well being for the citizens
@@stanspb763
And then you woke up?
As a economic bloc, as a cultural bloc no way jose
BRICS ++ isn't a rival for EU/US.
But we're considering a uniform currency like " euro"..
But lack of experience we need some expert consultancy from "euro" managers, how to peg the individual currency to common currency etc.
BRICS is a WhatsApp group then?
Kinda, just add random people like those WhatsApp scammers and bots 😅
Update schengen map, Romania and Bulgaria joined.
Totally agree. Just add that they can set price and rules on most commodities. That will shift the economic balance
Excellent idea.
I don't get it - haven't we learned by now that aggregate GDP is not a good measure of comparison?
If viewed from a GDP perspective, in 2022, China's GDP has exceeded the sum of all EU member states.
When did we learn that exactly?
Especially if China cooks it to be 60% inflated
Its not the time for BRICS yet but future awaits BRICS glory
Yeah, maybe by year 40000.
Thank you, very good.
BRICS is probably more of a comparison to the G7 than the EU
It is important though that we discuss how we promote the EU, so we won't be a small global player in the upcoming multipolar future.
The fact that the EU has not managed to grow its economy more than the 17 trillion, which has been the case in the past 15 years, shows us that we haven't done good enough and need to restart European Economy again🇪🇺
Considering Brexit, that's not surprising, but the economy overall is growing.
Besides, quality of life matters far more for the average person over the well-being of the economy, there's too much focus on the economy in many parts of the world, especially the US, but that means very little for the average person if they don't feel that growth, and it's probably why EU countries dominant the top 10 when it comes to quality of life.
Also, I get a sense that some of these other powers want to lower standards to create more economic growth, after all, if you lower standards and cut corners in a lot of areas, you can generate more economic growth, but that's not good for the citizens of a country.
Say what we want about Europeans but at least the citizen are put first more times than they are in other countries, in other words, not economic growth at all cost, which is what we see in the US and China.
@@paul1979uk2000 But quality of life is crashing in UK and EU and improving in every way in China and Russia.
The EU has almost 50 % elderly population that alone in the long term and short term will affect it.
That's why immigration is a good idea.
China is ageing as fast. Is it doomed?
@@hugoboss917chinas population elderly percent is only 35% meaning about 300k elderly but, they also contribute and live longer! In Japan or South Korea it’s different they are completely low of the lowest in this birth rates!
Good presentation
The EU has such American agents as Ursula Vondrein. Does the EU still need the challenge of BRICS countries?
What challenge would those be?
BRICS is just over glorified podcast.
typo when comparing BRICS, BRICS+ and EU. 12:02
BRICS doesn't have just 4 mil. sq km.... should be 40, according to your statement earlier 4:42
This video is all about comparing apples to oranges😂😂😂
EU is almost closed borders so it's better for communication whereas
BRICS lacks it, although Indian stock market gives better and reliable returns than volatile European ones.
Looking forward to seeing a fruitful prosperous BRICS
Looking at the comments it's like watching and listening to my Miss clueless
India and Chi Na hate each other 😂😂
And west trying to create war between them
The real problem with BRICS is that there is little holding it all together, each of the countries in it don't have that much in common and there is no integration, so no, it's no real challenge to the EU.
The US, China and maybe Indie in the long term are more of a challenge for the EU, just as each of these are a challenge to each other.
The other problem with the BRICS group, China and India are massive in comparison to the other members, and India and China are so different from each other on so many levels that for it to be meaningful, they would have to find far deeper common ground which will be a challenge considering the countries we are talking about.
Also, them not liking the west isn't going to be enough to give it any real teeth, many of the countries in that would have to make some hard choices for that to happen and that seems highly unlikely with the countries in it, basically, China and India would be running the show for their own interest at the expense of the rest and even then, China and India are not exactly on friendly terms.
Basically, if they really want to be a power, economic integration is one thing but it will need political integration, which lets be blunt about this, because of the size of China and India, it would give them two all the powers at the expense of the others in the BRICS group, to put it another way, there's too much of a difference over the countries political and economic views for it to be a threat.
The African Union, Latin American Union or South East Asian Union is a lot more credible, some of which are modelled on the EU but are going about its formation the wrong way, the African Union is a prime example, there's no correct and stick to get remembers to change, they let pretty much any African country in, there's very little in foundations and unity that holds it together on political and economic matters and to get that, they need to start from the ground up with fewer countries that have a lot more in common and then making it work, with that, encouraging others to change with the carrot and stick approach.
The biggest mistake I'm seeing with them is that they are all rushing to try and replicate what the EU did, but we should remember, the EU took a long time to get to this stage, it also did some after the second world war which made it a lot more politically easier to integration because of the destruction of the second world war, but on the plus side, these other unions have a blueprint in how to do it by looking at how the EU went about it, learning from that and either following that and doing their own changes.
My advice to these countries that want to form these unions, start smaller with like-minded countries and ideally, countries that are around the same size in power, political and economic, as for BRICS, it's no threat because China and probably India will abuse it, China already shows that it wants more power around the world, that power play is why it's not likely to work, because the smaller countries in it will get pushed aside and become irrelevant, or worse, under the thumb of China.
*I m Indian*
India is an insular country. We don't think much about the outside world and never in a million years will india seek any foreign control etc.
Our highest goal is to be completely sovereign someday. That's about it.
Also Indians don't think "west" but we think on individual country basis. US is disliked by some indians not because of ideological stuff but due to them backing pakistan in cold war and trying to meddle in our affairs. Support/oppose for US is 50-50
@@himanshugurjar9002 There's nothing wrong with giving up some control if done right and if it's balanced, but doing that takes a lot of time and there needs to be a lot of common ground among the countries to do that, the EU countries show it can work.
As for the BRICS countries, there are too many differences among the countries, there's also too big of a size difference among many of the countries that makes it very difficult to give over some power to a central body, because in the case of the BRICS countries, both China and India would be dominant over all the others because of the economy and population difference, it doesn't really make it practical that it can work, but a lot of the other smaller Asian countries are in a better position to pull it off and probally will want to do so, so they can compete with India and China long term, this is also the case for a lot of countries around the world that I think many of the smaller ones are going to have to group together to compete with the bigger players.
BRICS is a bank not a union of any kind. Its akin to how IMF or World Bank operates. Also India isn't anti west, its not pro west either...its just apathetic to most world issues apart from its own. China aims for a superpower position, Russia aims for a dominant power in a multipolar world. Brazil and S. Africa are at this point not growing as much.
Brics+ is not political, it's economic and social directed. EU is about killing and imperialism.
You got your facts all screwed up and one sided just like any US and western supporters. It's your own assumptions but soon, time will show that you are wrong.
Countries that wanted to join BRICS will definitely join sooner or later and they won't even lift an ear to hear your one sided lame reasons and excuses. Almost everyone wants to run or at least move away from the US, USD and the west whenever possible. Although not the only reason, that reason itself is one of the main reasons why they wanted to join BRICS. Everyone can see this real true facts everywhere.
It's surprising North Korea didn't join BRICS+
10:43 these handshakes are something else hahaha the more you look at it the weirder it gets
The EU was called EEC in the Fifty's, so its much longer around then you might think. Let`s see how long those Bricks will last^^ I doubt they even make it 10 years.
they are on thier 13th year btw lols
@@lovedlover2667 can you read lol?
@@BeFree2BeGrotesquethey already made, 10yrs
@@hotshortsforstatus.4682 They have archived nothing and will achieve nothing^ I give em another 10 years lets see
Good luck with consensus finding in this hotchpotch group of nations! Economic power alone does not have any unifying element. All have their own objectives and interest - not necessarily compatible. Not comparable with the EU at all.
Isn't the EU also a "hotchpotch group of nations" in the same logic though?
@@tomorrowneverdies567
Certainly not. And that has a lot to do with the fact that the EU is a union of neighboring countries. That makes them look at their own interest as well as their interest as a group(!) in a very different way. Opposite to what many people - and unfortunately also many candidate & member countries - think, the economic issues are only a part of the motivation - and not even the most important one - that led to this Union.
For centuries european countries have been waging war against each other. Creating a secure & peaceful future was the motivation at the beginning of what became the EU. ( Look up the "European Coal and Steel Community (ECSC)" ) Trade & commerce has been a means to this end, but not the main objective. And this developed into a European identity that many would not have thought possible. Try and transfer a kind of "BRIC identity" to Brasil or South Africa?! What would that be?? The only "identity" I can think of is some opposition to the West, I guess. Russia & China? Give me a break. They will be at each other´s throat the moment it suits them again.
Despite all the awkwardness and the sluggish & difficult decision making processes etc in the EU, it has been an amzing success. We just don´t appreciate it any more as all the achievements have become so normal for us.
80 years of peace in western Europe? First time ever.
German unification - unthinkable, had West Germany not been so closely tied into the EU and the Allied powers did not have to fear a united Germany.
The "Good Friday Agreement"? Only possible because of the EU and in jeopardy now as the UK has left and has no clue about how to solve the Northern Ireland question.
Just to name a few examples political examples.
Without the EU Ireland would still be poor and Poland would be far from its current economic strength. Greece would still have to rely on devaluating their Drachme constantly to attract business. Just to name some economic examples.
I am German. Despite Germany´s dark history, I could go to the NL beaches to enjoy my vacations as a youngster. I studied in Germany and England. I am now married to a Dane and live in DK. No red tape whatsoever.
We go skiing in Italy and vacation in Greece and Spain. Last summer I circled the Baltic Sea by Motorbike and crossed 10 borders without once showing any document to anybody. I can spend my pension days in any of thes 27 countries with medical support and no hazzle. My kids have the whole EU as their playground - to travel, live and work whereever they want. Just some private examples.
Hotchpotch?? No way. Just look at it properly and appreciate and enjoy the EU.
(Apologies for a long answer.)
But BRICS do not consider the EU at all because they can see they are failed states that are crashing. No one pays attention to the people in the EU. Is there a single country in the EU with improving economics and rising quality of life? They are vassals of a crashing USA and have no say in their future.
@@tomorrowneverdies567 Not even remotely comparable magnitude, no, most of brics+ are rogue states and dictatorship with vastly different cultures and interests, with the biggest of them being at each other's throat and ready to backstab, with neither currency being particularly stable and thrustworthy and the list goes on.
This is like a discussion about a square competing with a circle.😪
Russian noninterference at full display right now in Ukraine
The Brics were shatttered during the Israel-Palestine crisis while Europe was united.
BRICS is a bank nothing else.
A yes United following us orders like a good serf
@laraik1198: It always have been the 5 eye alliance and its allies. Is it not a good thing not to be a brown tongue nation without knowing the actual shitfuckery.
They will not only challenge the EU, they will economically bury them . Their combined weight is double the eu.s and will accelerate even more in coming years. The eu will however make a great holiday destination for tourists. Lovely quaint towns and villages.
And then you woke up.
LOL.
How long has this video made? More countries had already joined 😂😅
EU : economy 2 land Area 2 population 2 GDP 2 Military 2
Brics : economy 1 land Area 1 population 1GDP 1 Military 1
Note : More Natural resources
Strong : Brics
6:26 Isn't Bulgaria and Romania part of Schengen already? Even if by sea and air only, feels like they should be on the map. Maybe I'm just being pedantic
Don't get excited, he didn't even put Croatian on the map
Agreed. BRICS is just anti/alternative G7
EU and BRICS+ are in different platform. EU and ASEAN are in same platform. G7 and BRICS+ are in the same platform.
The question is be how powerful is each in terms of global trade.
I am happy abt your work and how you make the Small EU size look like an advantage and give it too much of value that you can travel within few hours from A to B. You are good 😀
And yea right. As you mentioned.. we don’t need to compare eu and brics. But at the same time you repeated what lula Silva said; “we want to organize ourself”.
Organize to do what? So at the end it is about economy and more power within brics.
I dont think taking cjina at their word for their gdp is the best idea as they have been caught lying about their numbers so often
evidence
When has China lied? It does not need to since the people are very happy with the highest rate of quality of life, savings and life satisfaction in every survey by international polling services. Same in Russia, much more rise in quality of life than the US or EU. China eliminated poverty iin 15 years, and the working class is smaller than the middle class. The average saving for the working class is 56% of their monthly income is saved. They are by far the largest car market in the world and they buy in cash from savings. Americans used to save but now every bit of income goes to debt services, so Chinese are much more stable and have a higher level of happiness. One visit to any Chinese city reveals they are the most modern cleanest in the world. Any look at US cities shows extreme decay, crime, homelessness and division. My last visit to the UK was depressing, dirty streets, disrepair, and poverty.
I have been in 92 countries and many times in a lot of them and find the best quality of life now has changed a lot, China and Russia are clearly ahead of the crumbling west.
@@stanspb763
Russia has a life exceptency of 72 (global average is 73) and 9.3 alcoholism rate (4th highest in the world) if you believe they have the highest rate of happiness your delusional.
The us rate of violent crime has been lowering since the 90s stop believing Russia today.
Ah yes the "crumbling west" is behind Russia now let's look at reality for a second:
Russia:
- legalized domestic violence
- fucking beastiality is legal
- 9% alcoholism
- below average global life expectancy
- "2nd strongest military" but can't win against Ukraine and less than 2% of Nato spending
- drafting young men as meat shields
Stop watching Russia today Lil bro
Yes, China's GDP has been severely underestimated. In 2023, China's manufacturing industry accounted for approximately 27% of GDP, while the manufacturing industry in the United States accounted for approximately 10%. According to GDP calculations, China's manufacturing added value is $4.87 trillion, while the United States is $2.5 trillion. China's manufacturing GDP is 1.94 times that of the United States, almost equivalent to two other countries. If GDP is calculated according to the circulation laws of the United States and India, China's GDP will be 2 to 2.5 times that of the United States.
BRICS does not Challenge EU ….they are a trading block to trade and prosper each other with benefits for both to prosper
if there truly were no hostilities between the members of EU and BRICS, a topic like whether one could challenge the other would’ve never come up. It would be nice if people were a bit more honest😮💨
BRICS = The Poverty League