2019 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid | The Minivan With A Plug
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2019
- In some ways Chrysler is downplaying the “plug-in” part of the Pacifica PHEV, but that strikes me as funny since this is one of the best PHEVs available in America today. It’s roomier than just about any crossover in America, more efficient than a Highlander Hybrid and will save you enough cash every year to take your family on a mini-vacation. What more is there to love?
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"I like big butts" one thing that caught my eye for sure.
Tee hee...
This is how you know people are paying attention. LOL!! 😆
As a millennial who grew up with mini vans, after test driving this van...it's divine!
Get the non-hybrid S trim though, its a superior vehicle. Handles better, payload is greater, seats fold away (the best feature), looks great, and it has great tow capacity. Lower initial price, better used value retention, and lower long-term maintenance costs with just one rather than two powertrains.
@@BoopSnoot The Hybrid qualifies for $7,500 federal credit though, making it basically same price as the non-hybrid.
If you aren't needing towing or the stow-away seats (instead you get much more comfortable 2nd row seats in the hybrid, plus the 2nd row seats can still be removed very easily), the hybrid is better in a lot of ways. Whisper quiet, far superior gas range/mileage (I'm at 800 miles so far on this tank and only used 1/4 tank, still have 3/4 left). It's saving me about $125/month in gas (even considering the cost of electricity).
@@slandshark I don't think its healthy to exhaust the non-hybrids range before stopping for gas, as that's how you end up with blood clots and bladder issues. The non-hybrid does over 400 miles, which is about 6 hours of driving on the highway, plenty long IMO. That's more fuel savings than expected, and at least the battery has a good warranty because it will be expensive to replace and they tend not to last very long in extremely hot and cold climates (I'm in extremely hot in Houston where the black asphalt w/ triple digit temps tends to roast floor mounted batteries). In any case, fuel economy aside, the non-hybrid is the more utilitarian sporty version.
@@BoopSnoot I suppose we can agree to disagree then. Also, the hybrid battery in the Pacifica is actively cooled (unlike the batteries in the volt and VW e-golf, for example), drastically improving battery life.
I also disagree on the 'sporty' version, since the hybrid has instant torque unlike the gas version. Even if you never charge the hybrid battery you still get over 30mpg average compared to low 20's for the non-hybrid.
I own the 2018 limited Pacifica hybrid and would buy it again in a heartbeat.
@@slandshark Sporty with regard to higher peak horsepower and the S version having wider lower profile tires and 657lbs less weight. More power, less weight, wider tires, more payload, stow and go, and 3.6K lbs tow capacity makes it the more sporty utilitarian option. The hybrid is the fuel saving option, but with compromises.
Man this thing is really a pretty great value considering all the amenities inside. This is the only minivan I would consider, at least until there is something all electric on the market.
I've had one of these for about two weeks. Except for a 50 mile round trip, I've driven on almost exclusively on electric. The kids absolutely love it. I also have a 2014 Volt, so on a few days when I've expended the electric range on the Volt and still had some driving to do, I've taken the Pacifica to avoid using any gas for the day.
I own a Prius Prime. Make sure you use up the gas within 3 months. It will go bad.
Hi. Have you experienced any issues so far? Have you noticed weird loud voice comming from the engin/generator when the battery is depleted? Thanks
@@rimonzaky5578 are you referring to the fact that the engine kicks in and sounds louder than running on electric? Yes. It's weird going from all electric to an engine run on gas. You are driving effortlessly quietly, then it switches and sounds like a monster being woken up under hood. Everything about this care takes getting used to. From the dash board display, plugging in every night, to forgetting to check to see if you have enough gas. 😄
@@CandycaneBeyond thanks
I don't need a minivan as I drive alone 99% of the time but if I was in the market for one I would definitely look at this one. The implementation of Android auto and apple carplay in the middle is ingenious. Keeping the built in navigation on the bottom is a really excellent idea.
The Plug-In hybrid makes a ton of sense for this market as well.
Oh don't tell the American public that mini-vans are the better option over SUVs and CUVs for families. They need to spend 20 grand more for a full size SUV and wrap their negative equity into their 84 month payment. Got to look cool at the school drop off line.
Right on the money there
This is such an excellent informative video. No bias is clear here and I appreciate this
Next video:
Big butt comparisons.
LMAO.....was waiting for a review on music selection!
Yet another excellent review. We’ve been shopping for a 3 row vehicle for a family of 5, and we’re stoping at this one.
Good choice
Good review. I can't understand for the life of me why a large family or family larger than five people would buy an SUV over a minivan. It just doesn't make logical sense as the third row in most SUVs is very cramped.
I love your version of the Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Plug-in which is black with S-Trim package. Coolest looking minivan. I am definitely getting this because of its looks and plug-in function.
I am amazed that you can read our minds when you compare this car to VW Atlas, Kia Telluride, Toyota Sienna, Ford Transit Connect, Honda Odyssey, etc. That is exactly what is on my mind.
The details you put in each review is mind boggling
I've been waiting for this review. Thank you Sir!
Thanks for a very objective review with your opinion saved for the end. I truly appreciate your review compared to many others who are all opinion and no numbers
Got a good laugh at your music choice... immediately “subscribed”... you are a great and thorough reviewer.. with hidden humor side 👍
Nice
For those who already watched your review on the previous model year, a segment solely dedicated to differences would be appreciated.
Good overall review. You kept referring to the sunroof as Dual, when in fact it is a Tri Pane sunroof. The middle and rear are fixed pane while the front pane has tilt to vent and fully open capability. I do own the 2019 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited S and as a driver who typically goes 20k miles/year, my gasoline consumption has reduced by 66%. In California, gas averages @ 4.50/gallon so the savings are huge.
Absolutely excellent review, thank you :)
Great information thanks. Going tomorrow to check one out.
Great review as always, Alex. Your points re minivan advantages, especially the Chrysler Pacifica, are well taken. But I think it's a losing battle. My wife and I owned a Mazda MPV AWD for several years. It served us well and once managed to extract itself from deep snow in a ditch on a deserted logging road in the Cascade mountains. Probably saved our lives. When we replaced it in 2012, however, my wife opted for a KIA Sorento crossover for a number of reasons. The most critical was the higher driver's seat and the associated better visibility in the Sorento. In speaking to others I've found that to be a common sentiment among women. And contrary to conventional wisdom it's the preference of women for SUV's that has dealt the most serious blows to minivan sales.
Love my Pacifica. It's not the hybrid, but it's such a fun, versatile vehicle that's better appointed than the Sienna or Odyssey at a similar price point.
I know you haven't had it long, but how is the reliability? It's the thing that scares me the most of Chrysler. It's a shame they have such a bad reputation.
@@MrDragonsPit76 I was able to purchase a LIFETIME Mopar warranty for about $3000 (no limit on miles or years from manufacture date). Mopar discontinued offering this Nov 2018. While I've had no problems with my 2017 Pacifica Limited, I'm not sure I would have purchased it without this guarantee.
Happy with our 2018 PacHy after 18 months. Averaging 5.1 L/100km or 46 MPG (calculated the Chevy Volt way, counting gas only).
Duke Silver There is no battery replacement cost to come. The battery warranty is 10 years.
Duke Silver PacHy degradation isn’t covered if it’s normal wear and tear. My Volt’s battery has degraded by about 5% after 6 years. No need to replace it.
Duke Silver Even if I had to replace the battery after 10 years (unlikely) I will have saved $15,000 in fuel by then. So yes I’m okay with it.
Have you ever leave the car ideal for a long time and keep the ac/heat on. Wondering if the battery can handle long air conditioning/ heating for a long time. Planning on keep in it. Thanks. ;)
Duke Silver That’s nice. I got a $14,000 rebate.
excellent work, thanks
I can see Alex singing Baby Got Back driving in the minivan
I actually would consider this being a single person with no kids to haul around stuff or use it for deliveries.
Name it shagging wagon.
I have a 09 Montana for that reason. Plus I got it for 1k.
@Jags No, they don't. I have had 3 Dodge Grand Caravans, put way more mileage than that on all 3. Current one 200k km, and nothing has been done other than oil changes. The Pacifica hybrid should be even more reliable since the engine is running far less.
Me too but to sex in.
@@iluvcakes19 Yes because women love men driving minivans 😂
10:21 I like your song choice, hahaha😂
We are loving our 2020 PacHy Limited. Great incentives and discounts on them right now. $10k+ off msrp. I’ve even seen $15k for certain buyers.
7:04 I appreciate your huge effort for your data research.
Nice review! Of note the comparisons at the end seem to be out of sync. Also the Gen II Volt can show true MPGe and true blended MPGe. You have multiple ways to show MPG in a Volt.
The literal car that does everything... except maybe track day
EDIT: nice song choice
I want to see a Pacifica Hybrid on the track, would be awesome.
The Pacifica S non-hybrid is the car that does everything. The hybrid has worse handling, worse payload, lose stow and go, and can't tow.
I liked when the second row could be faced backwards. There was an available panel that could be flipped down from the wall, creating a dining car between the second and third rows.
great video thank you. any thoughts as to why the 2019 pacifica hybrid has a lower MPGe (82 vs 84) and MPG (31 vs 32) score than 2018? i'm struggling to understand if there were real changes made or its just a calculation difference.
the federal calculation guidelines were marginally updated
Very good comments like always, I wanted to downsize to a outback but got a great deal on a brand new 2018 that we couldn't refuse and still have the tax back. Now on your gas consumption numbers the you consider the cost of charging or it was free?
In the 8 years or so that we’ve had a Honda minivan, we’ve only needed to take the middle row out once. We generally carry people, not large cargo, so losing the Stow-And-Go seats in the Pacifica Hybrid would not be a great tragedy. Besides which, have you ever tried sitting in them? I wouldn’t even expect a child to find them comfortable.
The Pacifica Stow-and-Go seats are better than the Caravan ones, but not as good as the regular seats like in the hybrid.
I have the 18 model and love it. One thing i wish they have is bigger battery and e-awd setup like toyota system. The missing memory seats are annoying. Now that 19 model have it. :(
Hi, Have you experienced any issues so far? Have you noticed weird loud voice comming from the engin/generator when the battery is depleted? Thanks
The pacifica is such a gorgeous vehicle, I love it 👌. The black looks AMAZING!
If carrying people is your thing, you can't beat a minivan. Just comparing van to van, the Odyssey would be my pick, but the Pacifica has been second since it came out, and the PHEV just puts this car in a league of one.
Bought this in pearl white - love it!
R -K White, I agree. Black with Black wheels horrible and shows dust and dirt daily. Also like a hot oven in the sun.
@@bextar6365 looks bad ass tho.
Did you get the 2019 one?? That’s awesome.. I am only finding 2018 ones here in Texas..
First mini-van we've ever owned and we got a 2018 pearl-white Pacifica Hybrid. Best family vehicle we've ever owned!
@@whyprasad Yea - I was shopping like a mad-man for aggressive deals on 2018's and ran across a new Pearl White Limited w/o Sunroof here in Phoenix at Tempe Chrysler/Dodge (they were awesome) - drove our 2017 Gas White Limited down there and gave it to them + $20k and drove off with the Hybrid. I paid $36,500 for the gas one new 2 years prior (negotiated for months) so I feel OK about the deal. Wasn't amazing, but was the best deal I could find nationally for trade-in and was in our back yard and took all of an hour and a half I think. We LOOOVVVEEE the Hybrid. Wife is crazy happy with it and we use the UConnect Theater a lot with kids (put on learning shows or PBS or some Disney movie - a bit better than glaring down at iPads for hours maybe? Who knows)
must have large family hauler 🔥❤
The practical and utilitarian minivan is the perfect vehicle for the use of #Hybrid technology so expect an announcement on a Sienna Hybrid within a year.
Its surprising that Toyota hasnt done it yet with the Sienna. Theyre far ahead in hybridizing the other segments. Smart of Chrysler to take this segment while its wide open.
They are no doubt waiting for the next model, which is a couple years overdue at this point.
@Duke Silver Care to explain how it is a scam?
@Duke Silver Ahh, the usual cop out response when you actually have nothing to add.
@Duke Silver I didn't try to argue. I simply asked you to present evidence, which you failed to do. Ergo, you have none. Just making a claim with nothing to back it up.
Hi Alex! As seen in your review palisade and telluride have more combined leg room than pacifica, are they also more comfortable in the 3rd row? And if you have any idea about a double baby stroller, if that fits in palisade behind 3rd row easily?
While I agree with Alex that the steering wheel is well-designed and one of the best on the market, on cold winter days the metal trim is extremely cold despite the heated steering wheel element. On my 2017 Pacifica Limited, I still have to wear gloves Dec-Mar because of this. I hope this is addressed in future Pacifica versions.
Good review but crucial info was not given what is the tank capacity, how many kilometers you for a full tank using both battery and gas. City and highway.
Yup, we love out 2017 PacHy. It's the best and we go months without buying fuel. Great review Alex, I especially liked the cost comparisons at the end. When I look at the numbers I always wonder why people bother with the gas versions since they don't make sense but I figure people just might not know that the better plug-in hybrid version is available.
Hello Mike, I live in Toronto, I calculate in liters and kilometers.
What is full gas capacity, how many kilometers do you get for full tank, using gas and battery. Just battery how many kilometers would you get
Jack Ryder hey, I’m in Ottawa! I don’t know the exact numbers off the top of my head but a full tank is something around 50L or about $60. The electric range we get is about 50km depending on how you drive (we’ve gotten as much as 60km on city streets, less on highway). The gas range is the normal 500+km or whatever.
The plugin hybrid is just as capable as the gas version but since most trips are less than 50km in a given day you end up buying way less gas. We buy gas every few months instead of every week or so. I haven’t bought gas for our van since June!
@@mikeybthepilot Appreciate your reply. I did goofle search and found 63 liters capacity tank.
My question. If i use battery and gas together. How many kilometers will i get for full tank.
Hello Mike, What is your driving experience in winter and how reliable this vehicle is?
Jack Ryder over 500km. It’ll use the electric first and then switch to gas.
If I had no reliability concern I would be buying one tomorrow!
I am interested in the hybrid model, but have been reading that there is a grounding issue that is resulting in complete power failure in some cases. Has anyone heard that this has been fixed?
Love the song that was on the radio "I like big Butts" :)
Fully charged and fueled up, what is the maximum highway range before refueling?
I can see you dont post numbers about Atlas for comparison charts but worry about why
Would be nice on some of these long distance vehicles to compare and rate the lane keep assist capability and adaptive cruise control systems....I have found a big difference among the competition and for many, that’s a deal breaker....Also, as these are big sellers for families, comparing the safety features would be good too...
@10:21 alex trying to make a statement about the pacificia rear end?
no ifs ands or butts about that...
Hi Alex, my wife and I are looking into buying the Pacifica. We live in Wisconsin and as such we get plenty of snow. How would you rate the handling in wet and snowy conditions? We would prefer to get a hybrid/hybrid plug-in if we could
10:11 "I like big butts" lol
Should say “I like big fuel gauges.”
hmmmm, what is it telling us when 99 of 100 comments are about having large trunks????
What can you say about the reliability?
nice music choice lol
OMG, Alex be naughty @10.34
Also, that smooth functionality with CarPlay and the rest of the interface only works on the larger 8" screen. Our Pacific has the 7" screen, which still has CarPlay and Android Auto. Android Auto just takes up the whole thing and you have to navigate back to the main UI screen to do other stuff. CarPlay, however, drives me nuts, because while it keeps the standard UI buttons on the bottom, it compresses the whole thing to make it all fit, so you wind up with usable CarPlay on the equivalent of something like a 5" screen. Pretty dumb.
Thank you, Alex, for your videos. I was just wondering if I could get your thought on this link: www.autoblog.com/amp/2019/12/30/chrysler-pacifica-awd-update-voyager/. It says that Pacifica will be available with AWD and hybrid. I’ve been mulling over between AWD and hybrid version of Pacifica, but the two systems combined will be SWEET! Thanks again!
@10:30 great minds think alike! I have it in my playlist too :)
10:09 OMG BECKY!!!
Appreciate you frankly shed the light on warning audience that you may want to trade reliability for this big fragile baby. As others mentioned, plz make sure you check the reviews/issues reported on NHTSA, Consumer Report, and pacificaforums. Even on RUclips, there are a couple of videos about PacHy issues. We got the brand new 2019 Pacifica Hybrid Limited, we suddenly lost acceleration in around 2,000 miles. Stayed at the dealership for more than 45 days to get the high voltage battery replaced. 2 weeks later, the same issue came back again, has been in the dealership for another one month, hasn’t figured out the cause until now. Alex, you are lucky that your own Uconnect system occasionally restarted every 2,000 miles. For us, it’s happening every other day. It can turn black screen while we are backing in the parking lot, or turned off while you are cruising highway and in conference calls… The worst part, it’s a nightmare to really pursue the lemon law with FCA.
I sure hope you were given a free replacement hybrid Pacifica while yours was in the shop. The Pacifica (hybrid or not) seems like a great design until I read these horror stories.
Wish they could have kept the sto-n-go with battery pack
is there a review showing the lane keep assist function? i find honda's implementation to be excellent and proactive (it lane centers above 45mph). i'm reading FCA uses a "ping pong" reactive style which is not desirable.
I own a 2018. The lane keep assist is “ping-pong” style.
Our 2018 it just bounces around. It tends to argue with me about the center of the lane too. Not sure if I'm right or the van is. The adaptive cruise on the other hand is awesome, smooth as silk.
Alex, I love your videos. They are fantastic! But holy shit bro, it seems like you blew a line of coke before this one.
Edit: I loved the whole video and your enthusiasm. Don't change a thing.
Indeed lol not neutral as usual.
At 4:13 I think Alex meant Sienna when he said Pacifica
Is the 7500 federal rebate still available? Remember reading somewhere said only 3500 after April 2019
It all depends on the manufacturer and how many EVs they have sold. You probably heard that about Tesla or maybe Chevy.
when are they going to redesign the toyota
It would be interesting to see Alex reviews there Toyota Alphard /Vellfire/ Lexus LM in the future. The top spec Toyota Alphard Executive Lounge costs over SGD320k (USD230k) in Singapore.
Asian market only vehicle; so highly unlikely Alex will ever even see one here in California.
@@tjs114 not sure whether Lexus will bring the LM to the US.
About removing the seats you said "just like a Pacifica or Odyssey." You meant "Sienna or Odyssey".
ok but if u know what he meant then why do u need to correct him
Could have been Sedona from Kia also. I was going to comment also but checked first if anyone had done so already. ;-)
Actually Alex mentions in videos dedicated to Toyota Sienna that those second row seats are not removable.
Explain the recharge of the battery! I thought that if the electricity was gone, it would switch over to gas & then charge the battery as you drive on gas!? I’ve been running on -1% for 4 days, & it hasn’t recharged the battery at all! It actually sounds like it is using both, alternating between the two!? I’m confused! Thanks!
The most important thing is that... it is very hard to find one...
Is the 3.6 V6 based off of the Pentastar from the Grand Caravan?
azoreanblade2 yes but it’s the second gen of the penastar what came into in 2016. The car van and town and country only use the first gen pentastar regardless of year.
Is the Pacifica PHEV vs. Outlander PHEV a good comparison? I didn't see you compare them?
The Outlander is a 5 seater SUV I think? Totally different vehicles and the outlander has much smaller EV range.
My comment is the same as for any other PHEV. Make it with 1-2 electric motors correctly dimensioned for the size of the vehicle, and a smaller engine acting only as motorgenerator to hold the battery charge when needed, and a battery size of 15-25kWh. The overall efficiency would be even better, and potentially allow for the vehicle to be transitioned to fully electric.
I'm still a little confused. By charging the battery, I gain about 33 miles of battery usage, before it defaults to gasoline? So I'm essentially getting a "free" extra gallon or so of gas worth of driveability? I don't understand
is the chyrsler pacfiica's cvt similar to Toyota's or does it have a belt system?
They are totally different things. Pacifica has no belt but only planetary gears.
What happens when you sleep in the van and turn on the ac/heat all-nighter.
lol...don't know...you probably run down the battery.
Engine starts and charges battery then shuts off you should be able to run it all night without engine starting
Engine will turn on often to recharge engine depending how cold outside. If you're in below freezing engine will run quite a bit since heater uses a lot of energy and poor insulation in vehicles especially with all the windows.
@@James-il3tq No, the car turns off automatically after 30 mins of idling.
If you are camping and have the car plugged in at the site, you can run the climate control continuously without using the engine.
Wish it was 40 kwh
Time index 22 minute mark on windy roads. I live on roads like that in the pacific NW. Front wheel drive vs AWD vs 4wd. Of the three drive types in snow on those types of roads, how well does FWD do on those roads vs AWD and 4wd?
I only have driving experience of 26 years in 4WD and rear wheel as well as semi trucks with 53 foot trailers. So no FWD or AWD experience. I have proper equipment to plow my driveway so no requirement any longer for higher ground clearance and 4WD only as i live in the country.
So, on the roads you showed in snow, how well would FWD do vs AWD? Any major difference on the paved roads that are reasonably plowed and or sanded?
Would be really cool if an aftermarket company made a setup to have a "form fitting" battery for the below compartment behind the third row, that could extend (probably double) EV range. It would make it so third row couldn't fold and probably would be a liability in the event of a rear end collision.... otherwise a great idea perhaps.
I own a 2018 Pacifica and I hated the third row head rest. It is tilting forward, making it very uncomfortable. Do you know a way to adjust it? The Atlas 3rd roe headrest is much more comfortable.
Usually you can pull the headrest out. Check to see if you can
My parents had an HHR with head rests like that. I pulled them out and reversed them and was much more comfortable
I don't mind Big Butts myself:)
10:21 i like them too 👍👍
Id do anything to have an all electric version of this
If only Chrysler had a bigger share in the Australian market, they might've brought the Pacifica to Australia. It'd be close to perfect for someone like myself!
Please review the new 2021 Pinnacle model that is coming out. If this 2019 is an A plus for cabin noise, the Pinnacle has laminated front side glass and windshield and they say they sealed the cabin better. I bought a Kia K900 and it is the best car I've ever owned. Alex on Autos spurred my interest in it due to him saying it was his top pick for luxury sedans. My main trigger for buying it was it's super plush and cushy ride and it is only a few decibels louder than a Rolls Royce Ghost (as per Motortrend magazine). I like Alex on Autos reviews because of his attention to meaningful details that people like me want to know, like if the upcoming Pinnacle model will have a power tilt telescopic steering wheel, which is nicer to me than any minivan vacuum.
I live in Northern Canada and can't decide between this and the Honda Clarity. I plan to have two kids and have two dogs but don't have any kids right now and this thing seems to need to heat the cabin with the engine, which would be all the time. Plus it costs $15k more. Perhaps stick with the Clarity and look for an AWD hybrid family hauler down the line when I have a bigger family. Our Venza works for our two dogs right now. What do you think Alex?
Keep the Venza.
In Northern Canada the gas engine would run a lot in the winter for heat. In southern Ontario it runs most of the winter. But it still averages out to use less than half as much gas as my 2008 Dodge Caravan did.
keep the toyota until you have kids. by then, the new re-design sienna should be out and hopefully there will be a hybrid version.
I really like the Pacifica Hybrid, but overall reliability does still worry me. People who get minivans tend to drive them a lot. The Pacifica isn’t the best a being there all the time like the Sienna. Total cost of operation might still be lower here than the Sienna or Odyssey, but it will spend more time out of commission which is problematic for a utility vehicle
Other than anecdotes what's the evidence for your opinion? I'm not saying that FCA vehicles rank as high in reliability as other brands but the actual differences among brands has been shrinking for years and is no longer a significant metric among most brands. Furthermore, while one brand as a whole may rank lower than another, that tells you almost nothing about the relative reliability of specific models. Reliable information about the latter is extremely difficult or even impossible to find.
Stephen Hendricks DJ GaFFLe posted his Pacifica ownership issues in the comments. I realize it’s anecdotal but I’ve seen similar reports online as well. Chryslers are known to have many issues. Toyotas don’t have as many. I’m not saying they’re perfect, but problems tend to be fewer and further between. Toyota problems also tend to be easier and cheaper to fix
@@Jaymac720 Reliability is a VERY complicated topic, not easily summarized in a few paragraphs and certainly not reliably based on a sample of unverifiable internet comments. But here are some points to consider.
() Sources of evidence. Undoubtedly the best and most comprehensive publicly available source of information about reliability is Consumer Reports annual survey of over 500,000 owners of vehicles. But CR warns readers that a BRAND's reliability scores may not accurately reflect the reliability of individual models. And for the least popular models, scores may well be based on very few responses. The FCA brand ranks relatively low compared to some other brands in terms of reliability but that doesn't mean that each and every vehicle in the FCA line-up contributes equally to the overall reliability score. A statistician will tell you that if there is more variation WITHIN a brand's set of vehicles than BETWEEN brands, a brand's ranking should not be relied upon to tell you much, if anything, about one vehicle versus another.
() Measuring Actual Risk vs Rankings. When you purchase a vehicle you should be interested in the actual RISK of encountering a major reliability issue, not whether one brand (or vehicle) is slightly more or less reliable than another. Hypothetically, if one brand has 30 cases of problems out of 1000 vehicles sold and another has 15 cases, the first brand is arguably twice as reliable as the second. But the chance of encountering ANY problem in the first brand is still 3 out of 100. And in reality the actual risks of one brand/vehicle vs another is much closer than that hypothetical example. This is a problem analogous to comparing violent crime rates. One city, say Houston, has a much higher rate of violent crime than another such as New York City. But the actual risk of being mugged or murdered in Houston is still very, very low. (And yes, it's true that Houston is a more dangerous city than NYC according to FBI crime stats.)
() What is measured by "reliability." CR asks respondents about 17 separate categories of issues in their evaluation of vehicles' reliability. They range from truly serious categories such as major engine and major transmission problems to things like "paint/trim" and "in-car electronics." In 2018 the Chrysler Pacific was at the top of five categories in 15 of the 17 categories, at the next lower category in one, and at the bottom in one category (in-car electronics.) The Honda Odyssey also ranked at the top in 15 categories, one in the middle, and one (again in-car electronics) in the lowest category. The Toyota Sienna was at the top in 16 categories, and at the next lower rank in one. No question that the Sienna outpointed both the Pacifica and the Odyssey according to CR's survey, but only in a single category, one that hardly qualifies as something serious such as "major engine" or "major transmission" issues. And for that matter, there is no way to determine just how much more frequent or more serious the "in-car electronic" problems were in the Pacifica and the Odyssey than in the Sienna. Would that single issue be enough to determine a purchase? Not for me.
() Vehicle age and personal experience. As vehicles age they, like men, tend to drop off in performance and reliability. What does it tell you about the reliability of a new model to look at the current reliability of a model with the same name five or more years ago? Likely very little, especially if the vehicle has undergone a refresh or been replaced with a new generation since that time. When manufacturers encounter issues, even when they don't issue recalls, they typically redesign components in the next refresh or generation of a model. And virtually all vehicles today can be counted upon to run without issues for at least three years. That's why virtually every manufacturer offers a 3 year bumper-to-bumper warranty. It's a cost-free marketing tool. Some manufacturers who have reputations based on models from years before that encountered problems may well offer longer warranties. Again, because like any fixed term insurance policy an issuer expects that on average they won't have to pay off.
Furthermore, past experience is a terrible guide to current risk. I owned an early Mazda6 whose engine literally melted at 8000 miles. It was replaced under warranty and ran flawlessly for another 120,000 miles. Would I hesitate to buy another Mazda? No. Every manufacturer produces a lemon now and then. Encountering one is largely a matter of the luck of the draw and having an engine detonate is about as likely as being struck by lightning.
() Bottom Line. The internet is packed with hysterical, over generalizations about brands and vehicles. The fact is that virtually all vehicles today are far more reliable than was the case two decades ago, much less compared to earlier periods. And the actual risk of encountering a major reliability issue during the seven years, or so, that an average new car buyer keeps a vehicle is low. If I were purchasing a small pickup that I intended to drive for 25 years, it would probably be a Toyota. After all, Toyota pickups are the vehicle of choice for ISIS terrorists who subject their vehicles to far more abuse and neglect on the desert than I'm likely to subject a vehicle to. So when I buy a vehicle I take a look at potential trouble spots but there are other far more important priorities, especially when vehicle reliability evidence is on the whole so "unreliable."
P.S. In response to "Trubatube," I don't own a Dodge Durango but I have a close friend who owns his third and reports virtually no issues in any of this vehicles. So much for personal anecdotes.
@@stephenhendricks103 Wow, that was comprehensive. Thanks for the awesome post!
I am in the same boat as I really like it given this is the only plug-in hybrid van but reliability is a huge concern in addition to depreciation. FCA products do not command a high resale value period.
The question I have is second row in the hybrid are really nice compared to the stow and go seats why is the second row not heated in any of the hybrids but it is in the gasser
Since the hybrid seats don't stow into the floor, I imagine they avoided heating them so they would be easily removable for those who want greater cargo area.
@@multiplebunnies that’s the first thing I thought as well but I thought I saw an electric connection when they snap back together but probably not because nothing on it is powers,Thank you for the response have a great day
Good luck getting Chrysler to fix anything when something go's bad no matter how new it is or the miles on it.
If only Tesla made a minivan with this approximate shape! I almost bought it after a test, and owning the Caravan Crew beforehand, but decided to suffer with less space and go the electric route. Even 30MPG now seems crazy expensive.
I have the 2018 Pacifica Hybrid and looking to go all electric now given that charging at home has spoiled us..don't like going to gas stations anymore. Wondering how my wife would settle into a Tesla Model X as it lacks a lot of conveniences of a minivan. And she would lose her favorite 360 top down camera view.
@@gregoryhwin Wait until nearer the end of the year to get a MX due to a refresh, unless you want free lifetime supercharging, which is available now. She'll love and be completely ruined by it, never able to drive a gasoline (or hybrid) vehicle again. There are not many inconveniences (especially with the X) but there are many advantages.
It's the minivan's drivetrain reliable? Any problems reported with the Hybrid Pacifica?
Do you give your mom problems? Are you reliable?
I will take that the drivetrain is reliable.
2017 2018 Consumer Guide results below average third time lucky? (:
The Hybrid version losses the stow&go seats which makes this minivan one of the most versatile cars available. Also, significantly more expensive than the regular model (after discounts).
Yeah, that's the rub. You'd need one for 8-9 years before the payoff point, and who knows if an FCA vehicle will last that long...
Not true, after tax credits in many states the hybrid is less
@@AAutoBuyersGuide I was shopping for a Pacifica last summer in NYS and ended up buying on huge discount a Touring L. Chrysler offer no incentives to buy a hybrid. The dealer have only fully loaded versions that cost 48+ before tax. If you add tax (8-10%), we are taking about $52K before NYS incentives of $2K, which will end up with $42.5K after $7.5K federal credit - both are after tax incentives. There are no attractive loans or trade in offers that would go with it. If you go with a non-hybrid version, you have huge discounts and many offers and incentives from the manufacturers and from the dealers. I paid less than $34K for an 8-seater. There are even better deals if you want to lease. FCA and its dealers have no intention to forward to you the tax credits :-(
Mine first production Pacifica nothing wrong with the head unit at all, never freez or restart it self. I have 4 kids, the convenient of the seats no other minivan or suv can compete. But the only issue I have is front driver side suspension making noise been fix 2 times already noise still came back after few months, bought it to dealership one last time to fix b4 warranty ends. By the way my friends 2018 Honda Odyssey went to dealer 7 times already fix his electronic stuff, worse than Pacifica
Hi. Have you experienced any issues so far? Have you noticed weird loud voice comming from the engin/generator when the battery is depleted? Thanks
@@rimonzaky5578 so far still good, i don't have that issue
I didn't catch the range of the Pacifica. What is it's range?
phatcowboy76 32 miles on battery, 488 miles on gas.
Alex did u sell your tesla to buy this?
Vital Ral No, he used the sale of the Tesla for a Hyundai Fuel Cell vehicle. He has a video on the car or CUV about it.
@@darkpepsi Actually, the Nexo replaced the Kia Soul EV Alex has had on lease for 3 years. The Model3 was, according to Alex, purchased solely so it could be reviewed since 'base' models of the 3 were non-existent in the review fleet, what few vehicles exist in said fleet.
The Pacifica is just a review vehicle. The Nexo is his commuter vehicle, and the Model3 funds the Toyota RAV4 they have on order.
I don't like the all-black trim thing at all, but you don't have to have that option. Other than that, I've driven the regular Pacifica and it did everything better than a Toyota Sienna (other than maybe long term reliability), which is a really old design. Too bad about not having the seat to stick in between the second row buckets. Also would prefer fewer controls on the screen and more buttons and switches, and a lever instead of the Jaguar style knob for the shifter. (Ford is also going to knobs with the next Escape). But 30 combined EPA mpg vs 22 is a lot better. Unfortunately on plug-in hybrids they don't list city/hwy mpg. They should list those (assuming no plugging in) like with a regular hybrid. The city mpg without plugging in is no doubt way better than the 19 mpg of the regular model.
If I don't plug it in, does the gasoline engine charge the electric battery?
When the electric exhaust, the car functions as hybrid, which means, it generates energy when breaking. Hope it helps
The hybrid just makes it more efficient, the engine won't recharge the battery to give you pure electric range, you'll just get hybrid fuel economy
Очень хорошо придумал, с таблицами.
Yeah, you might want to stage your infotainment system a little more carefully next time...
He knew what he was doing