This is legit JOJO MAYER technique: You might be embarrassed to hear that everything the guy at 9:22 explains is legit Jojo Mayer stuff. He's setting up his kit in a way to hit the drums at a most flat angle to get best rebound and sound. (Even though Jojo tilts his snare more away from himself.) The rim click that hits also the rim of the high tom is a technique Jojo explains in a video about getting a 'clap' sound from an acoustical drum set. It's just not very well performed in the shown video. I'd love to see some upvotes on this comment so that the techniques explained at this point don't get the bad credit that they don't deserve.
Timo Heinrich thumbs up from me. I stumbled on to it when I started putting all the toms on stands for more flexibility. With them flat it was hard not to hit two rims, wrong rims, knees, etc. So I adjusted it a bit to make it consistent and use it and the rims a lot more as triggers. You can sneak in another cool sound by hitting a rack tom with the tip of a stick with your hand right above the floor tom. Focus the butt of the stick down onto the floor tom as is bounces and it makes a nice one handed flam-tap. It's kind of like holding two marimba mallets letting one hit earlier (or single stroke roll), but the front and back of the stick are the mallets.
Also the sound of the tom will be much more spread out and round when the tom is angled that way. This way the tip of the stick will hit the head more flat and use all of it's potential, giving you that round sound that lights up the whole shell. If you were to hit the tom with only the top of the tip, the sound would be more "pingy" and tense. The way this guy also describes how his toms are angled more towards him not only makes the sound of the drum more weak, but potentially hurts himself. Having the toms angled towards you can make your wrists locked in a really uncomfortable way, potentially hurting you. Also this kills a batter head faster than anything else. This video was pretty fun but this part was just stupid and uneducational by EMC.
@@wiisportss Of course the improvement in sound will especially given if you use a stick that fallows the same philosophy. The tip of the stick needs to be shaped in a way that gives you a lot of contact surface on a flat angel. Some sticks will not give you that.
I'm not a drummer but the videos other than the punk beat one hurt. I'm not even a true percussionist and I can't even find the beat to most of these, also after I heard the first triplet I wanted to click off lol
I’m a 73 year old buzzard I played drums for about 30 years from night clubs as a young man and general business (weddings, class reunions, bowling banquets, Bar Mitzvahs etc.) as I got older. Can’t read music. I got by just fine. Nearly 20 years with the same 4 guys a very popular group. Self taught never got through book one. Always made more than scale and I may hold the record for eating more free stuffed chicken meals in a lifetime. I love your channel I’m just about bedridden live alone and listen to audio books, podcasts and watch RUclips videos for hours everyday. Especially this last year with COVID. You’re a remarkable percussionist and you really make me laugh. You work so hard on your videos it’s astonishing. I look forward to your videos you should have a million subscribers. And have a good morning.
That second guy truly is an expert. He puts a creative spin on one of the most common and easy to play 4/4 rhythms by taking out one 32nd note in between the snare and bass drum when they're supposed to be a 16th note apart. Truly genious and unexpected, I can't wait to hear it in a song
greg gall (triplet guy) is actually a really great metal drummer, he just didnt know any of the correct terminologies cos he's probably self taught. maybe he shouldn't be teaching, but he's pretty damn good at what he does which is performing.
People do play that double rim click thing. The goal is to get a flam sound with it. I think it sounds bad, but people do it. I believe rdavidr has done this a bunch
I legit just learned that the reason my doubles go from awesome to straight dogshit is because when I transition from mid-tempo to high-tempo, I'm still trying to catch the rebound with my fingers. For twenty years. Which is apparently impossible. Damnit.
I know nothing about drums (well i am starting to get some drum names and other ideas just watching), but i find your videos so fun! I was lol in the RL, along with you. My favourite reaction of yours: "Please don't". I am so glad there is a job out there for me at a place like ExpertVillage, where i could play drums for my very first time like/as an expert! Keep it up Eric, that was fun. I marvel at your standing, high velocity, non stiff drumming,. nj
The entire time I was imagining Eric explaining to the caption head or director of percussion about how he broke the shells of the $2000 dollar quads while doing a quint crossstick
10:14 Yes, it‘s a thing. So kind of. You could play the tom rim as a flam before the rim click so you get an electronic clap-like sound! But yeah, how he explained it was... Weird..
2 years late to the party, but yea, just saying "rim flam" is a better way to explain it than that guy. You also don't need your toms flat to play one, my setup is more conventional and I can do it. I suppose a flat tom would make it easier, but a rim flam certainly isn't reason alone to switch.
I subscribed because you have a poster of The Brave Little Toaster in the background. “The Master never played triplets with Expert Village.” “Coz they’re stuck in a wall!”
I just recently found your channel and I’m really glad I did. Great quality content. I’m trying out for Music City and Cavi’s soon so until then I’m gonna keep that notification bell rang and enjoy your videos!
As a self taught intermediate metal drummer of 11 years I found those expertvillage videos highly offensive. I can't believe they would allow that weak content to even get uploaded in the first place and someone new who legitimately wants to learn this amazing instrument would honestly be doomed learning from some of these guys and without the help of a proper teacher to help them fix the simplest ingrained errors and I believe everyone should have access to quality music lessons, (like your channel) you are a great drummer man keep it up!
Idk why people think they know everything in drumline. Drumline isn't just wacking drums and hitting the drums loud. There is a lot of technique and form when it comes to drumline, different drum shapes, totally different tunings for drums, and larger sticks. And of course never be stiff. I have been a section leader for 2 years for my high school drumline and even though I don't know everything about drumming, I know enough to teach my fellow students correctly.
10:13 Definitely a thing. Check out Brazilian drummers like Edison Machado and Milton Banana. Also really popular with hip hop drummers. You have the option of a flam sound elsewhere on the kit. Why not on the rims?
Just when I decide to explore drumming topics on my left or right of field, like your drum line themes, you put the zoom lens on the wacky extremities!
I can't believe I am just finding this video. My brain hurt watching those "lessons". "Expert" village? Face:palm. Take out the "lessons" and this video is epic. Semper Fidelis brother.
10:25 Kit drummer here - what I know as rimshots are where you hit the head and the rim of the drum - just hitting the rim of the drum like you're doing I've always heard being called cross-stick (because you lay the stick across the drum)
The double rimshot is something Chris Dave does to get a handclap style sound by “flamming” between the two rims. Ive seen maybe 3-4 other professional drummers utilize that concept. Definitely gonna have to try that reverse drumset traditional grip. 😂
Would like to point out that flatter Tom angles allow for the sticks rebound to remain vertical. This makes it easier to engage the stick with your fingers and wrist.
Eric, you have obviously never heard of the quadruple cross stick. I'm offended.
Didn’t expect to see you here
Finally. Someone gets it.
Wow, strange seeing you here dave
I was about to mention you haha
Barry B Benson I didn’t expect to see you here either
Drummer: "Notice I'm playing the hi-hat slightly open"
Eric: "Oh I noticed"
Right
Kowalski analysis moment
Lol I couldn’t stop laughing at that!
Can we get the music for "Tendonitis: in 30 seconds or less?"
Justin Jones oh darn
HAHAHAH! for real!
That one is a winner!
I MADE IT BUT I CANT SHOW YOU IT
This is legit JOJO MAYER technique:
You might be embarrassed to hear that everything the guy at 9:22 explains is legit Jojo Mayer stuff.
He's setting up his kit in a way to hit the drums at a most flat angle to get best rebound and sound. (Even though Jojo tilts his snare more away from himself.)
The rim click that hits also the rim of the high tom is a technique Jojo explains in a video about getting a 'clap' sound from an acoustical drum set. It's just not very well performed in the shown video.
I'd love to see some upvotes on this comment so that the techniques explained at this point don't get the bad credit that they don't deserve.
I think I've also seen Jost Nickel do that
Timo Heinrich thumbs up from me. I stumbled on to it when I started putting all the toms on stands for more flexibility. With them flat it was hard not to hit two rims, wrong rims, knees, etc. So I adjusted it a bit to make it consistent and use it and the rims a lot more as triggers.
You can sneak in another cool sound by hitting a rack tom with the tip of a stick with your hand right above the floor tom. Focus the butt of the stick down onto the floor tom as is bounces and it makes a nice one handed flam-tap. It's kind of like holding two marimba mallets letting one hit earlier (or single stroke roll), but the front and back of the stick are the mallets.
@@summer-west Cool stuff, thanks for sharing!
Also the sound of the tom will be much more spread out and round when the tom is angled that way. This way the tip of the stick will hit the head more flat and use all of it's potential, giving you that round sound that lights up the whole shell. If you were to hit the tom with only the top of the tip, the sound would be more "pingy" and tense. The way this guy also describes how his toms are angled more towards him not only makes the sound of the drum more weak, but potentially hurts himself. Having the toms angled towards you can make your wrists locked in a really uncomfortable way, potentially hurting you. Also this kills a batter head faster than anything else.
This video was pretty fun but this part was just stupid and uneducational by EMC.
@@wiisportss Of course the improvement in sound will especially given if you use a stick that fallows the same philosophy. The tip of the stick needs to be shaped in a way that gives you a lot of contact surface on a flat angel. Some sticks will not give you that.
As a drummer, those videos *HURT*
I'm not a drummer but the videos other than the punk beat one hurt. I'm not even a true percussionist and I can't even find the beat to most of these, also after I heard the first triplet I wanted to click off lol
Ikr
As a brass player, this video he watched hurt me
I’m a clarinet and it hurt
WE GOT A DRUMMER OVER HERE GUYS
Bro it's Stevie t but for drums
Except i can actually finish this video
koshy bear idk this guy is cringy in a funny way but Stevie T is just cringy
Emc: drums
Jared dines: rythm guitar/vocals
Stevie t: lead guitar
Davie504: *bass*
@@dal_21 stevie t is actually a professional triangulest
Cuntoss Mcgee omg it is
I’m a 73 year old buzzard I played drums for about 30 years from night clubs as a young man and general business (weddings, class reunions, bowling banquets, Bar Mitzvahs etc.) as I got older. Can’t read music. I got by just fine. Nearly 20 years with the same 4 guys a very popular group. Self taught never got through book one. Always made more than scale and I may hold the record for eating more free stuffed chicken meals in a lifetime. I love your channel I’m just about bedridden live alone and listen to audio books, podcasts and watch RUclips videos for hours everyday. Especially this last year with COVID. You’re a remarkable percussionist and you really make me laugh. You work so hard on your videos it’s astonishing. I look forward to your videos you should have a million subscribers. And have a good morning.
Thank you!
Ok... 4:47 it's possible that the paper is there to muffle the snare... It's not likely, but it's possible
i find it hard to believe that guy is smart enough to know what muffling the snare even is
DragonEyeZak you know he plays in the marine band right
@@JonCorrieri I think @DragonEyeZak means the guy who's playing the drum in the video - not Eric....
James Thatcher yeah that’s my bad. I didn’t really read it correctly haha
@@JonCorrieri Yeah that's what I meant, youre fine haha
That second guy truly is an expert. He puts a creative spin on one of the most common and easy to play 4/4 rhythms by taking out one 32nd note in between the snare and bass drum when they're supposed to be a 16th note apart. Truly genious and unexpected, I can't wait to hear it in a song
greg gall (triplet guy) is actually a really great metal drummer, he just didnt know any of the correct terminologies cos he's probably self taught. maybe he shouldn't be teaching, but he's pretty damn good at what he does which is performing.
^
Most of these are alright. The only people ever whining about them is just for snob reasons.
@@kishascapeI mean, I’m an instructor myself and I try to make sure everyone hears correct terminology
He’s not a great drummer if he doesn’t what a damn triplet is
Can you do a crash course guide over tenor playing like so he can see
You missed the best part of that first video. At the end he's like "and that's a triplet"
tendonitis in thirty seconds or less lmfao
That one and where he puts his camera in the HI Hat killed me lmao
I didn’t know at 3:46 that Shaggy from Scooby Doo would try to ‘play’ the drums.
People do play that double rim click thing. The goal is to get a flam sound with it. I think it sounds bad, but people do it. I believe rdavidr has done this a bunch
Jojo Meyer does that
Double rim click sounds good for swingy r&b
Doesn't have to sound bad at all. 😁
James Gadson did it with Bill Withers. Can’t be all wrong🤟
I got such a laugh out of this. Never dabbled in drum line, the rhythms you interspersed in between were so good!
I was seriously starting to tear up from laughing so hard at the second video 😂
I legit just learned that the reason my doubles go from awesome to straight dogshit is because when I transition from mid-tempo to high-tempo, I'm still trying to catch the rebound with my fingers. For twenty years. Which is apparently impossible. Damnit.
"Mom, can I have triplets at home?'
"We already have triplets at home."
Triplets at home:
It was over the moment he said “right left right, right left right”
I'm a flat tommer myself, I like small sized toms over the bassdrum as well.
I like flat toms too but I just use a single rack tom mounted on one of my cymbals and then 2 floor toms
I can’t stop laughing over 6:57 😂
I love those little intermissions when he uses the quads as like a commercial break
bruh when emc becomes a roast channel
i love it
TwoSet but for marching and shit lol
I've never laughed so hard in my life
At the beginning I was like "Damn Stevie T has changed"
I thought it was Stevie T too
I'm glad you have the little clips of you playing in between because wholey ravioli there is a difference!
I play trumpet, and even I knew that traditional was backwards lol
That was my fave part!
I play snare drum in marching band and it made me wanna kms
could you imagine a staff sgt waling in at 10:40
10:08 Yes, man is a "thing" that is used for tipe of color in drumming, is a sort of a flammed side stick.
Anyway you are Amazing 🔥
Imagine going to a restaurant and there is a band playing, so you look over at the drum set and see this: 10:39
I know nothing about drums (well i am starting to get some drum names and other ideas just watching), but i find your videos so fun! I was lol in the RL, along with you. My favourite reaction of yours: "Please don't". I am so glad there is a job out there for me at a place like ExpertVillage, where i could play drums for my very first time like/as an expert! Keep it up Eric, that was fun. I marvel at your standing, high velocity, non stiff drumming,. nj
This is me and my my friends messing around in music class in a nutshell
Thank goodness for resources like Drumeo and EMC. These videos made me cry
No one:
Literally no one:
Not even a single soul on this earth:
The second man's tom is a snare drum for kids
This is my new favorite channel and RUclipsr. It’s like an endless sequel to Napoleon Dynamite after 20 years of waiting.
This should be called, “Roasting the Hell out of Drumming Tutorials”
10:40 Okay I'm getting anxiety... please don't fall or I might have a panic attack
The entire time I was imagining Eric explaining to the caption head or director of percussion about how he broke the shells of the $2000 dollar quads while doing a quint crossstick
10:14 Yes, it‘s a thing. So kind of. You could play the tom rim as a flam before the rim click so you get an electronic clap-like sound! But yeah, how he explained it was... Weird..
2 years late to the party, but yea, just saying "rim flam" is a better way to explain it than that guy. You also don't need your toms flat to play one, my setup is more conventional and I can do it. I suppose a flat tom would make it easier, but a rim flam certainly isn't reason alone to switch.
Props for finding an assortment of items, placing them to appear dirty and then cleaning it up for a single point. Lol
I subscribed because you have a poster of The Brave Little Toaster in the background.
“The Master never played triplets with Expert Village.”
“Coz they’re stuck in a wall!”
This video made me subscribe. I like how you exposed the bad video tutorials and then educated with humour. Good stuff.
I love at 5:00 when the "hip-hop" drum lesson suddenly turns into the outro of the drum solo from Step Brothers 😂😂😭😭
One of your funnier videos for sure. Was great to watch on for my birthday
I just recently found your channel and I’m really glad I did. Great quality content. I’m trying out for Music City and Cavi’s soon so until then I’m gonna keep that notification bell rang and enjoy your videos!
The one thumbs down is the "coonga" player.
*guitar
Can you do a "how to play quads for snares" or for basses and set players. That would be awesome.
As a self taught intermediate metal drummer of 11 years I found those expertvillage videos highly offensive. I can't believe they would allow that weak content to even get uploaded in the first place and someone new who legitimately wants to learn this amazing instrument would honestly be doomed learning from some of these guys and without the help of a proper teacher to help them fix the simplest ingrained errors and I believe everyone should have access to quality music lessons, (like your channel) you are a great drummer man keep it up!
8:03 thats a memory foam pillow lol
Love the content man! I stumbled across your boot camp video and can’t get enough
This was so funny to watch! Nice vid!!!
I've been waiting for a video like this for a looooooooooong time
Dude your random little licks give me life
I love how he is set up in a barracks room
He plays tenors for the Commandant’s Own
You deserve more subscribers.
The double rim is sound effect used in electronic music. I've seen videos of Jojo Mayer utilizing and demonstrating why he does it.
This.
Idk why people think they know everything in drumline. Drumline isn't just wacking drums and hitting the drums loud. There is a lot of technique and form when it comes to drumline, different drum shapes, totally different tunings for drums, and larger sticks. And of course never be stiff. I have been a section leader for 2 years for my high school drumline and even though I don't know everything about drumming, I know enough to teach my fellow students correctly.
DUDE your my fav channel
The guys talking about drum set up tips taught me for 3 years dudes a genius
You HAVE to review the "Baton twirler how to lead a marching band" expertvillage vid
It's...um... something
Eric, you need to react to the paradiddle one by expert village
Jojo Mayer uses a double rim click in some songs, from mounted tom to snare. He gets kind of a "raking" sound from it.
"Let's add that crunchy hi hat"😂 This should make it as a meme😂😂
This video totally made my day! Thanks!
this man does the most for his videos and I love it.
the fact that at 13:21 he sais ill live the link in the description exactly on the beat is so sattisfying ahaha
10:13 Definitely a thing. Check out Brazilian drummers like Edison Machado and Milton Banana. Also really popular with hip hop drummers. You have the option of a flam sound elsewhere on the kit. Why not on the rims?
My daughter, a flute player, is staring at me from across the room as I cackle like a lunatic at "How to get tendonitis in 30 seconds or less."
I love the fact that your corfram box is your laptop stand so you have space for your keyboard
I'm a beginner drummer and this video boosted my confidence by a lot. I think im gonna apply for the drumming spot in dream theatre.
I've actually definitely done a rim hit with both the snare and small tom rim. Works well! Depending on the music context
“Tendinitis In 30 Seconds Or Less” is easily the best title to a drum solo I’ve ever seen!!!
This is hilarious. Love it man. Keep these coming.
I’m so glad I found this channel 💗
The double open rolls got me weak when he said you very rarely play it on the edge, my one song in our half time show does it on the edge. Lol!
I have the greatest idea for the most epic band made of youtubers ever. Eric on drums, Stevie T on guitar and Davie504 on bass.
Yes. This.
Just when I decide to explore drumming topics on my left or right of field, like your drum line themes, you put the zoom lens on the wacky extremities!
Hey EMC can you do a learn the beats to double beat 9000
Please
LET'S ADD THAT CRUNCHY HIGH HAT!!!
NOOOOOOOO! HOW DARE THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS AHHHHH! How was my Eric impression
Me:shows my friend emc production
My friend: instantly becomes drumline expert and perfect musician after watching one video
I can't believe I am just finding this video. My brain hurt watching those "lessons". "Expert" village? Face:palm. Take out the "lessons" and this video is epic. Semper Fidelis brother.
You should do some drum lessons on your channel. Specifically stuff on hand technique concepts would be cool.
10:25
Kit drummer here - what I know as rimshots are where you hit the head and the rim of the drum - just hitting the rim of the drum like you're doing I've always heard being called cross-stick (because you lay the stick across the drum)
Digital Deathsquid i was about to say the same
in my opinion, this is the best video you made! all of your vids are great but this one is my fave🤣🥁
JoJo Mayer does the double cross stick thing
I''ve been convinced for years that Expert Village is a parody channel. It HAS to be. If it is, kudos to them for the long con.
The double rimshot is something Chris Dave does to get a handclap style sound by “flamming” between the two rims. Ive seen maybe 3-4 other professional drummers utilize that concept. Definitely gonna have to try that reverse drumset traditional grip. 😂
This channel is so good omg
Now you’re making me feel bad for never learning roles and just playing singles every time
Also, "clean up your room, you nasty thing," definitely brought me because to my Camp Lejuene days, hahahaha!
74,860 views•Sep 8, 2019
You are getting close to combating the misinformation!
This is the best video I’ve seen on a long time. Great work!
I will be able to say that i'm here sincr 28k subs when this channel becomes big. Very good job it was fun to watch.
Expert Village: “Triplets”
Me after only three years of band:
*One-eee-and... Two-eee-and... Three-eee-and...*
expertvillage:teach you how to hold a stick the traditional way
Marching snare drum players:
👁💧👄💧👁
Hey man, it's DJ from Crown. This video was hilarious! Keep up the good work.
Freakin' died when you mounted you tenors sideways!
This made my month 💯🥁
I have never laughed harder at a drum related video, glad I found your channel man
Would like to point out that flatter Tom angles allow for the sticks rebound to remain vertical. This makes it easier to engage the stick with your fingers and wrist.