9:22 Pretty sure part of the reason EXO doesn't do water stages a whole lot anymore is because it's too shocking to their systems. They're way too hot and the water is too cold (the water can't be heated for safety reasons & warm water would produce steam); there were worries the cold water would send them into shock. Also, performers, particularly singers and dancers, need to be warm~~~ Not to mention they then have just a few moments to run back stage peel of wet clothes, put on new clothes probably over wet skin, dry & restyle hair, touch up makeup, put their mics back on, and then get back on stage~~~ + It makes the stage dangerous for the rest of the concert, cause the staff can't ever get it fully dried. (They mention this in the episode they did of Infinite Challenge for Dancing King; they had to warn Jae-suk about the slippery stage)
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from my observation - because i don't know a lot about EXO - Sehun's lines started increasing during Obssession. basically, when the boys started their military service. i think he shone brightly during Exist because he had to leave something for the fans to remember him by while he was gone. but that's just me. =)
Stronger is THAT absolutely great song that is slept on but it is a masterpiece! Sehun had more background vocals and supporting vocals back then but he , thankfully has more now. YES, there is a dance including KAI. You should definitely see it.. worth it
Suho is absolutely The Harmonizer. He is my fave of all korean singers cos of his pure angelic tone that no one else matches. D.O Baekhyun and Chen are pure talents as well but Suhos calm clarity of his voice is out of this world ❤😊 Ofc rappers Chanyeol Kai and Sehun are greats and Xiumin is the sweetest there is. Exo is just otherworldy, like they say from Exoplanet or should we say Straight Outta Exoplanet 😅🎉❤ Cheers from Finland!
Sehun sings a lot more than many realise, but not as a main vocal. Some of their backing vocals are not live as obviously they can't be singing two parts at once, so he also suffers not being noticed for that. He was brought in as a dancer, rapper and Face and did not feel confident as a singer. I'm not convinced SM did much to help him in this. The other members have always supported him, Chanyeol especially worked so hard to increase his confidence. It is only really when the military hiatus began, post EXO-SC that he was heard more as a vocalist in his own right.
This is why Exist album is so dear to me. Aside from his own key lines, Sehun sings a lot of the lower harmonies, it just sounds so perfect with the tenors of the group. His unique tone just adds that depth and gives that dense, full sound that I love from Exo. And several times in Exist, the rap is actually used as the bridge or hook and acts as a focal point and not just an add on… Baekhyun mentioned that he was also helping Sehun with certain lines during recording of Exist. And Sehun has been attending more vocal lessons. I am so excited to get new music from Sehun once he gets out.
Love anything by EXO and love Lay, but I am one of those that think any live performance without Kai is missing something special. That's just my opinion. Even so - EXO! Thank you.
I was thinking the same when I saw the mic in his hand. I think sehun's first long line/verse was in Tempo, he would literally have 1 line or say E-X-O before that! his line distribution increased from Obsession imo
Stronger is in my top 20. Maybe top 10. Is it even possible to narrow it down to top 10 with EXO? Or top 20 for that matter? I just really love the song.
I kind of understand why Sehun didn't have much lines back then. For one, he's in the Dance Line, together with Nini and Yixing they focus more on dancing (and a lot of times choreography too!). And EXO is always best during live stages, more dancing compared to the MVs so they have to put more effort on that. They wouldn't be able to dance their hearts out if they also have to sing as much. As you all have noticed by now, when the 3 Main Vocals sing, they stop dancing or still do but with minimal movements to still be able to hit the right notes (and most EXO songs are vocally challenging). And also (just in my opinion), Sehun's vocals hasn't fully developed then. It's almost like he hasn't found his vocal color just yet. And even during the Cream Soda era he still isn't that confident with his vocals,. If you can remember in the recording videos, Chanyeol was even encouring him that he's doing great (and he is!) and just be confident. Our Sehunie has improved so much! I guess what i'm just wanting to point out is that EXO did such a great job in every position they're given in the group. Main vocals, main dancers, main rappers and the leads and subs of every positions, they did a tremendous job! If you've been to an EXO concert, you won't fail to notice how much command the main dancers give. Especially If they are at the front center during the performance! And all of them are awesome dancers (and singers), but Yixing, Kai and Sehun dancing is just completely on a different level.
Not to mention that Sehun was probably still going through puberty around debut and then he had his lingual braces; even this performance was only a few years after debut~~~
yes!! while exo is known for their strong vocals as a group there is a reason for their positions and sehun being a dancer made to rap with no obvious foundation in vocals at the start makes sense for his lack of lines at first. it’s only when the other rappers left (kris and tao) and kai being made to sing more instead of rap like in their early days did sehun get more lines. while I still think he isn’t the strongest vocally it’s been great to see his improvement over the years when he does get to sing here and there. really like his low harmonies in some of their choruses.
@@kunikuzushis Absolutely! We saw how much Sehunie does in harmonies through the recording videos. Just a shame that stupid company never released as much videos of them recording their songs before!
A lot of people don't like the Seoul version of this concert because Kai wasn't able to fully perform. He could only sit and sing. Most say they prefer the Japan version, but I don't. I prefer this one because the vocals were ALL THE WAY LIVE throughout the whole concert. Not a lot of back track vocals and they focused on Sehun and Lay more.
i dont think this is ALL the way LIVE, you can still hear Kai when baek cover Kai’s part. The performance is not as good as Japan version, for all of them, not just Kai is missing. Kai did amazing in these water dance, we all know he’s on a different levels, i agree we should focus on SeLay, they should be appreciated.
sehun was bad at singing and I don’t think sm trained him either…he got into exo purely by his dancing/visual and from what I heard he also had a lisp so that didn’t help…he got more lines when his rapping improved and then he improved his vocals mostly from outside vocal training+back then kpop companies didn’t care about line distribution,main vocal can get 90% of the song cuz it’s about who delivers it better.and well exo having three doesn’t help.
yeah I’m of the opinion that as long as the song is good I don’t care much about line distribution especially if the majority of the lines go to the competent vocalists. it’s only a problem when good vocalists don’t get enough (like jeongyeon in twice for example) but for idols lacking in that department, it’s understandable that they have less and that’s ok.
@@kunikuzushis yeah same thoughts I don’t get jyp case with twice I also don’t like how they sometimes force the girls to sing in a certain high cutesy voice that ruins their singing
EXO vocals with just a piano is unsurpassed! 😊😊
you can watch video compilation EXO cracks vocal when they singing, but that proved their singing live ❤
Don't know how much we love them
9:22 Pretty sure part of the reason EXO doesn't do water stages a whole lot anymore is because it's too shocking to their systems. They're way too hot and the water is too cold (the water can't be heated for safety reasons & warm water would produce steam); there were worries the cold water would send them into shock. Also, performers, particularly singers and dancers, need to be warm~~~
Not to mention they then have just a few moments to run back stage peel of wet clothes, put on new clothes probably over wet skin, dry & restyle hair, touch up makeup, put their mics back on, and then get back on stage~~~
+ It makes the stage dangerous for the rest of the concert, cause the staff can't ever get it fully dried. (They mention this in the episode they did of Infinite Challenge for Dancing King; they had to warn Jae-suk about the slippery stage)
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'Stronger' is one of my favorite EXO songs
stronger, my favorite exo song! so happy we have many live performances for it. wishing a 2024 ver.
Love this EXO era ❤❤❤
Iconic dance of LAY and SEHUN!
EXO means talent in my dictionary I don’t care.
from my observation - because i don't know a lot about EXO - Sehun's lines started increasing during Obssession. basically, when the boys started their military service. i think he shone brightly during Exist because he had to leave something for the fans to remember him by while he was gone. but that's just me. =)
This performance is great but I prefer where Kai is too (I don't put a link because I don't know why they delete my comments with a link)...
Stronger is THAT absolutely great song that is slept on but it is a masterpiece! Sehun had more background vocals and supporting vocals back then but he , thankfully has more now. YES, there is a dance including KAI. You should definitely see it.. worth it
Suho is absolutely The Harmonizer. He is my fave of all korean singers cos of his pure angelic tone that no one else matches. D.O Baekhyun and Chen are pure talents as well but Suhos calm clarity of his voice is out of this world ❤😊 Ofc rappers Chanyeol Kai and Sehun are greats and Xiumin is the sweetest there is. Exo is just otherworldy, like they say from Exoplanet or should we say Straight Outta Exoplanet 😅🎉❤ Cheers from Finland!
7:50 I was waiting for D.O's melismas and you talking at that precise moment 😭😭😭😭
they tend to talk over Kyungsoo's parts a lot
Always here for my EXO❤❤❤❤
Sehun sings a lot more than many realise, but not as a main vocal. Some of their backing vocals are not live as obviously they can't be singing two parts at once, so he also suffers not being noticed for that. He was brought in as a dancer, rapper and Face and did not feel confident as a singer. I'm not convinced SM did much to help him in this. The other members have always supported him, Chanyeol especially worked so hard to increase his confidence. It is only really when the military hiatus began, post EXO-SC that he was heard more as a vocalist in his own right.
This is why Exist album is so dear to me. Aside from his own key lines, Sehun sings a lot of the lower harmonies, it just sounds so perfect with the tenors of the group. His unique tone just adds that depth and gives that dense, full sound that I love from Exo. And several times in Exist, the rap is actually used as the bridge or hook and acts as a focal point and not just an add on… Baekhyun mentioned that he was also helping Sehun with certain lines during recording of Exist. And Sehun has been attending more vocal lessons. I am so excited to get new music from Sehun once he gets out.
@@M-de-Vale彼はこの12年で素晴らしく成長しました。誇らしいです。
This is why Sehun opening Hear Me Out made me so emotional and Happy 😆
Love anything by EXO and love Lay, but I am one of those that think any live performance without Kai is missing something special. That's just my opinion. Even so - EXO! Thank you.
I think any performance missing any EXO member is missing something
@@JudiChewieso true❤
@@JudiChewie I totally agree, but as an Erigom who loves watching Kai perform more than anything, I miss him more.
I was thinking the same when I saw the mic in his hand. I think sehun's first long line/verse was in Tempo, he would literally have 1 line or say E-X-O before that! his line distribution increased from Obsession imo
I loveee this live so much ❤❤❤
I noticed Baekyhun is doing Kai's parts too , this had to be anound 2017
temazooooo❤
Lmfaooooo the Sehun shade. Nah but boy does alot of Harmonization in the background with Suho and Xiumin!
With chen too
Stronger is in my top 20. Maybe top 10.
Is it even possible to narrow it down to top 10 with EXO? Or top 20 for that matter?
I just really love the song.
Lay and Sehun - 🌊🧑🤝🧑🤼🌊
Fans near stage - 💦🤤🙆😍🙆♂😍🙆♀🤤💦
I kind of understand why Sehun didn't have much lines back then. For one, he's in the Dance Line, together with Nini and Yixing they focus more on dancing (and a lot of times choreography too!). And EXO is always best during live stages, more dancing compared to the MVs so they have to put more effort on that. They wouldn't be able to dance their hearts out if they also have to sing as much. As you all have noticed by now, when the 3 Main Vocals sing, they stop dancing or still do but with minimal movements to still be able to hit the right notes (and most EXO songs are vocally challenging). And also (just in my opinion), Sehun's vocals hasn't fully developed then. It's almost like he hasn't found his vocal color just yet. And even during the Cream Soda era he still isn't that confident with his vocals,. If you can remember in the recording videos, Chanyeol was even encouring him that he's doing great (and he is!) and just be confident. Our Sehunie has improved so much!
I guess what i'm just wanting to point out is that EXO did such a great job in every position they're given in the group. Main vocals, main dancers, main rappers and the leads and subs of every positions, they did a tremendous job! If you've been to an EXO concert, you won't fail to notice how much command the main dancers give. Especially If they are at the front center during the performance! And all of them are awesome dancers (and singers), but Yixing, Kai and Sehun dancing is just completely on a different level.
Not to mention that Sehun was probably still going through puberty around debut and then he had his lingual braces; even this performance was only a few years after debut~~~
yes!! while exo is known for their strong vocals as a group there is a reason for their positions and sehun being a dancer made to rap with no obvious foundation in vocals at the start makes sense for his lack of lines at first. it’s only when the other rappers left (kris and tao) and kai being made to sing more instead of rap like in their early days did sehun get more lines. while I still think he isn’t the strongest vocally it’s been great to see his improvement over the years when he does get to sing here and there. really like his low harmonies in some of their choruses.
@@kunikuzushis Absolutely! We saw how much Sehunie does in harmonies through the recording videos. Just a shame that stupid company never released as much videos of them recording their songs before!
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A lot of people don't like the Seoul version of this concert because Kai wasn't able to fully perform. He could only sit and sing. Most say they prefer the Japan version, but I don't. I prefer this one because the vocals were ALL THE WAY LIVE throughout the whole concert. Not a lot of back track vocals and they focused on Sehun and Lay more.
i dont think this is ALL the way LIVE, you can still hear Kai when baek cover Kai’s part. The performance is not as good as Japan version, for all of them, not just Kai is missing. Kai did amazing in these water dance, we all know he’s on a different levels, i agree we should focus on SeLay, they should be appreciated.
sehun was bad at singing and I don’t think sm trained him either…he got into exo purely by his dancing/visual and from what I heard he also had a lisp so that didn’t help…he got more lines when his rapping improved and then he improved his vocals mostly from outside vocal training+back then kpop companies didn’t care about line distribution,main vocal can get 90% of the song cuz it’s about who delivers it better.and well exo having three doesn’t help.
some companies now just give more lines to most popular or just edit the vocals to hell and back *cough*hybe*cough*
yeah I’m of the opinion that as long as the song is good I don’t care much about line distribution especially if the majority of the lines go to the competent vocalists. it’s only a problem when good vocalists don’t get enough (like jeongyeon in twice for example) but for idols lacking in that department, it’s understandable that they have less and that’s ok.
@@kunikuzushis yeah same thoughts I don’t get jyp case with twice I also don’t like how they sometimes force the girls to sing in a certain high cutesy voice that ruins their singing