1950 Baseballs and Bullets at The Polo Grounds
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- The History Guy remembers an extraordinary night when there were bullets falling at the Dodgers/Giants MLB game at The Polo Grounds, New York City, in 1950. It is history that deserves to be remembered.
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Thanks to everyone that commented about the risks of improper use of firearms. However, being an old timer, I miss regularly scheduled double headers.
I LOVE these tidbits of history. With respect to stray bullets, I've never seen ANYthing about what resulted from ALL the stray bullets that rained down on Europe during WWII.
Number one rule of firearms: Never point a weapon at something youre not prepared to kill. That includes the sky.
Also, if you *are* ready to kill the sky, you're probably too inebriated to be trusted with a firearm in the first place....
The sad part is I know people that I wouldn't trust with a firearm sober! Im all for gun ownership, but Im also very against particular people having access to them. Unfortunately those middle of the road intentions run up against a wall when the question of "how do you spot those lacking the self discipline, control, and integrity to be trusted with forearms" is asked....I dont know. But I do know mine are of no danger to anyone except when those who would come to take them....I highly advise them to not try, because I really dont want to. But I'm entirely comfortable with the fact I dont have to win, I just have to make sure they lose. And they will lose. They shouldn't have had to.....but they will. Remember, tyranny can come from either side of the political aisle, those who think they're doing good tread on just as many rights as those they disagree with. I hope someday we will find leaders willing to stand up for the rights of people they disagree with, even to their own party....but in this climate of out extreming the other guy I dont see it happening any tine soon....
As a builder, a common job for me is roof repair and replacement. To put my statement in context,, Detroit has or had a long tradition of firing weapons skyward on the stroke of Midnight, New Year's Day. My single experience of being in town at that midnight, the din, the roar, cacophony, of small arms firing was shocking. Millions of rounds in the 90 seconds or so after the count down. And it proved good for business. The one roof that I repaired a few months later, I removed no fewer than 19 bullets from the shingles of that one roof on a modest home. 19 bullets in an area of less than 800 square feet, all obviously having rained in a downward direction. Most penetrated all of the shingles and came to rest in the wooden boards of the roof. I don't go downtown anymore.
In the early 70’s I was living in the western part of NJ near the Delaware Water Gap a fellow was working on his roof and was killed by a high caliber bullet which had apparently been fired into the air from up to a mile away. Never did hear if whoever fired the shot turned themselves in or was apprehended.
Poor ole Barney! Only 54 years old, He was literally at the wrong place at the wrong time. At a baseball game of all places! RIP Mr.Doyle, I hope that there's baseball where you are and you have a good seat!
Wow I’ve been going to games all my life and I’ve never heard of this until now!
Good video. Strange that when I went back through all your videos, I didn't see this (or some others), yet it showed up in the suggested feed. I'm glad I didn't miss this!
I am a gun owner and former military member.
I have always said that you never fire unless you know where that round is going exactly.
Good advice.
@John Thomas Always allow that there is plenty of safe area such a berm around where you miss.
@John Thomas this means you fire at a target, but also keep in mind what is begind it in case you miss or the round doesnt stop in your target.
The show "Myth Busters" had a show on this subject. Their conclusion was that a bullet fired straight up and falling straight down doesn't have enough velocity to be fatal. A bullet fired at an angle and arching over carries enough velocity to kill at the end of the arch. I enjoy watching all of your videos.
At last some intelligence.
Thank you.....I wish people would stop spreading this fiction. It would take a very heavy bullet, say a 50 cal, to have enough weight to be fatal. Its simple math....if you took the time to do the math you would see how ludicrous this is. A bullet shot at an arch...given a certain distance, could still have enough velocity to be fatal... not straight up in the air unless it was a very heavy bullet.
I just discovered your channel a week or two ago, and have had so MUCH enjoyment watching all these programs! Like hitting the Mother Lode of fun and well presented history. This is how history should be taught: Interesting stories from the past that contain lessons for the future.
Some bullets fired in the air lose velocity, like if you shoot straight up, but if you aim at an angle, the bullet can maintain a ballistic trajectory until it hits something, basically doing what a normally fired round does.
Good reminder.
People like this bother the hell out of me. As a responsible firearms owner it honestly makes me ill to hear about incidents like this. For the love of God people don't fire a weapon in the air for any reason anywhere near a populated area. What goes up must come down! Only fire any firearm in a safe direction into a well constructed stop or in the immediate defense of your life or the life of others and still keep in mind what is beyond a target. Even a .22 can go up to a mile. For the love of God people if you can't safely practice our sport or defense don't use it.
Your preaching to people in gangs now days. They care not of any laws.
Whoa, as a long time Royal's fan, that view of the stadium and the story shocked me but then I vaguely remembered something about the shooting.
Our church, located across the street from the Minute Maid baseball stadium in Houston, had to have its roof replaced after Hurricane Ike. When taken down, it was shot through with bullet holes from celebratory gunshots after winning baseball games.
Well said. Lots of shooting into the air. Wonder how many injuries never get reported.
I used to work for a roofing company for a couple years, it's pretty common to find bullets stuck into the roof.
If I recall correctly, in the early 1960's a man tried to hold up the box office cashier at Sportsman's Park in St. Louis during a game. A shot was fired and a fan in the ball park was grazed by the bullet.
I once asked a county sheriff what he was doing on New Years Eve and he told me he was going to park under a overpass because of all the guns fired into the air
brad bechly b I live in Las Vegas. New Years Eve 2015 one of my neighbors was firing a .45. the reason I know it was a .45 is I found a slug in my back yard. I still have the slightly mangled but surprisingly undamaged slug.
I didn't own my first gun till I was in my 20s, my father still insisted I take a hunter safety course with a bunch of teenagers. I figured why not. The instructor told of a couple of neighbors that I knew but I was unaware of the circumstances before that. One was target shooting with a 22, bullet ricocheted and traveled over a mile, if I remember right mile and a half and struck the other gentleman causing a minor yet scary injury. I had bought a high power rifle to go after coyotes that were to close to my cows but that stupid class was well worth the lesson of looking at your target and beyond!
I love this channel. I am glad to see subscriptions rising.
Another reason gun safety should be included in grade school. Regardless of what you think about firearms, sooner or later children will be exposed to them. Basic firearm knowledge would save lives. For those that would just tell children to stay away from firearms, know that works about as good as telling them not to try smoking, drinking or other drugs.
Gun safety was taught in public schools all the way through the mid 60’s, then the teachers union turned left and that practice went by the wayside. I had all of my kids and now my grandkids at the range at 6 years old with an emphasis on safety. When I took my 11 year old son to Cabella’s to feel different handguns, the salesman almost soiled himself when I handed my son the first pistol. My son immediately checked for clear and angled it for me to confirm. He then held it correctly and aimed it at the floor. After doing that 8 times and were done, the salesman commented that he wish his adult clients were that safe... a better compliment could not have been given to me.
On a different note some gun owners still haven’t learned... www.cbsnews.com/news/amish-man-accidentally-killed-girl-in-horse-drawn-buggy-with-stray-gunshot-will-serve-30-days-in-jail/
I agree, though on a topic only related by what they should teach in schools, swimming is another one. Basically survival skills and safety should be taught in grade school, to support your point.
Brilliant.
Have you ever had one of those "Oh, I was just thinking about that" moments? I got in from work about an hour or so ago and turned on the radio. Third story, armed police at The Oval cricket ground in London and a County Championship match abandoned after a crossbow bolt is fired into the ground from outside and lands on the pitch between two fielders. I then watch this video, having no idea as to content, while waiting for the sound of the smoke alarm to indicate that dinner is ready.
Dean Stuart a crossbow bolt! Awesome! I don't think that has ever happened in the US.
The History Guy: Five Minutes of History I currently live in Dorset on the south coast of England. A few years ago I went to a County Championship cricket match in nearby Southampton (my company used to sponsor the competition so we got free tickets). Apart from a few lizards, snakes and spiders here in Dorset we don't have a lot of dangerous wildlife in the UK, so imagine our surprise when the game is suspended, the crowd ordered under cover and armed police turn up because someone has seen a white tiger near the ground. The police helicopter flew over the ground and finally spotted the crouching, motionless tiger.
As the helicopter flew closer to the tiger the downdraft blew over a large, abandoned, cuddly toy. It ended up as one of those funny stories tacked onto the end of the national news.
You receive burnt offerings like a deity?
I remember that story! The shooter lived in a building on Edgecombe Ave, ( There is still a staircase leading up to Edgecombe Ave with the engraving bronze letters
"New York Giants" ) I would have loved to see the Polo Grounds Stadium before it turned into a high rise housing development!
These stories are very good bub
I recall instances in the early 2000s where American combat aircraft mistook celebratory shooting for anti aircraft weapons and returned fire and I was thinking how stupid shooting guns in the air was but alas we Americans won't be out done in greatness or stupidity Doyle's story breaks my heart
Bullet Bob Feller was a lot safer !
Thanks for the most incredible RUclips post 👍
Firearms have their own set of rules.
Such as, Always keep it pointing in a safe direction, and don't point it at anything you don't care if it gets destroyed, and know your target and what is beyond it.
In Australia some twenty years back, two youths practicing in a quarry sent a bullet over the rim. It flew over a mile, went through the slightly open window of a speeding car and hit a woman, killing her.
There is a story about a person who fired a bullet from a boat around Hell's Gate, the bullet skipped off the water and killed a woman driving along the East River Drive. I have heard White Sox fans did not want to sit in the upper deck at New Comisky Park because the residence of the nearby projects using the seats as target practice.
I remember back when I was six, maybe seven years old. Not to give my age away, but that would have been back around 1960 or so. My father had an old black powder side by side. One side was octagon rifle and the other shotgun. He decided to load the shotgun side up for new year's eve, but just with powder and wad. The gun had a strangely shaped butt made of brass. I remember stand halfway between the house and the alley... by mom's demand. Dad stood out in the alley with the gun lifted up to the sky, no mean feat considering the weight of the barrel. When it was fired a flame that seemed to me to be a mile long flashed from the barrel. And, at that instant... my father was thrown back flat on his back. His right shoulder was black and blue for over a month. That was the last time he fired ANYTHING off on new year's eve!!!!!!
OH, and one more thing - I love your channel!
In my neighborhood, an agricultural area in Central California, I hear gun fire every night and all of comes from the Mexican migrant workers that live here. New Years Eve and the 4th of July are like a war zone, with shots being fired from just after sunset until the wee hours of the morning. I stay in my room in the back of the house, just for safety. My dog just barks at the shotgun blasts and large fireworks. lol
As a Lifetime Giants fan I always look forward to playing the Dodgers
But I never knew it was this bad
Watching some of your older videos. Thank you for again demonstrating restraint and not being overly political on a topic that too many try to over politicize (from both sides)
A dismal custom.
I almost always watch THG on TV, where one can't comment. So today I'm making the rounds to like everything I've seen. I love everything about The History Guy. The episodes are reliable, thorough, educational, and entertaining.
I am a former police officer in Dayton, Ohio. Many years ago, about 1977-1978, I was driving a cruiser on New Years Eve. Someone fired a gun, no one knows where, and what went up came down and through the trim around the rear window.
Mythbusters did an excellent program on the danger of falling bullets. If the bullet is fired straight up, it returns to Earth with the same velocity as a bullet dropped off of the roof of a three story building. You can throw a bullet at the same speed.
Similarly, a penny dropped off of a skyscraper will not cause any serious injury to people on the street below.
Falling bullets that cause injury are on a ballistic path. Still, I wouldn't discharge any firearm into the air.
John Ferguson The issue is there are a lot of assumptions with the Mythbusters experiment. Rarely does anyone celebratory fire arms at 90 degrees/perpendicular to the earth. An angle as little as 75 degrees can impart enough velocity on a bullet to make it deadly. There was an Australian reporter who was hit by a spent shell at the end of its trajectory being injured in the neck covering the Battle for Marawi. He thought is was shrapnel it made such a small hole. He was lucky and got it removed. There are plenty of other examples not mentioned in this video of people being hit. A good explanation can be found here. ruclips.net/video/IP1wVJblN00/видео.html
One of the hard and fast rules of the gun culture is: You own the bullet until it stops.
I really look forward to your videos,I live in the town of Walworth n y and belong to walworth historical society ,I never heard of a reform school in
Walworth,I will check it out .However there was a reform school on the other side of Monroe county in a hamlet called Industry growing up in the area it is a place I never wanted to go. Thanks Mike Mcewen
In war it is called indirect fire. Artillery and ballistic missiles are examples. Unless you are going to war just don't shoot into the air.
Celebratory firing outside the US seems to be more centered on wildly dancing while swinging a gun around pointing it at everyone and shooting rather than just people shooting up into the air
I've always wondered how many people would have been killed by the act of firing a gun straight up into the air. Always seemed ludicrous to me.
He aimed at nothing, and missed. Reminds me of the book Deadeye Dick.
I miss Kurt Vonnegut
Viewing this makes me want to wrap the whole house in Kevlar......
What goes up must come down...
I love your channel. Love it. My only complaint is that your sound levels vary between the video and the outro. Sometimes its louder going out...sometimes quiter.
Whether or not a bullet fired straight up would be lethal would have a lot to do with its weight and shape, but I think most wouldn't be. Most of these lethal accidents are from bullets not fired straight up but on a parabolic course that retains some of the original muzzle energy. It sounds to me like the bullet that struck it's unlucky receiver in the temple was such a case. It is most dangerous to fire a bullet 0 to 45 degrees above the horizon as these can travel very far while still retaining quite lethal velocities. Also, all of the cases I have heard about were fired by people not familiar with fire arms who were unaware how dangerous it is to fire above the horizon.
What kind of alarms me is what this means for outdoor ranges. If you visit an indoor range you will see bullet holes in almost every direction from floor to ceiling and I have to assume some of the same people frequent outdoor ranges!!!!!!!
Years ago I worked with a guy who was from Mexico. He wanted to buy a pistol from me for the sole purpose of firing into the sky on New Years eve. It seems that this was very traditional in Mexico, at least in the part where he was raised.
As a CCW holder, backdrop is critical and must be accounted for when discharging a firearm.
I’ve been to Tropicana Field so that was a one in a million shot.
On New Year’s Day I was cleaning out my children’s pool and found a 9mm bullet lying on the bottom of the 48 inch deep pool. We have an apartment complex behind us and the idiots were firing guns in the air on New Years Eve. I was so angry that I couldn’t see straight. Needless to say we put the house up for sale and moved far away from those drunken idiots.
Brilliant series Sir, i stumbled across your channel and been watching all of your uploads for the past few days.
I have been struck by your administration for unsung heroes. Although from a Nuclear / Chemical industry background, i have always had a keen interest in history. It is not possible to understand anything unless you understand the historical context in which it sits.
It rankles when i see history written by omission, examples play up the British contingent contribution made by Montgomery in the North Africa campaign, and play down the Anzac/ Indian contribution especially early on when fighting the Italian.
I am a loyal British subject, but realise that as well as all the good, many of the wars even to this day are imperialism and the real reasons for wars are usually subverted.
Ideas Simon Bolivar, Cortez, Indira Ghangi 1971 Bangladesh, Longhiwala, Siege o Malta, Siege of Vienna, Anji Lur, Russo - Mongol wars, dare i say 1812/Canada...great work...
Back in the late 60's the idea of firing a warning shot was something that the movies portrait as something that law enforcement should do, then there came the case of a security guard while chasing after a robbery suspect in a strip mall had done just that in CA that lead to a completely innocent lady being killed. As the security guard while chasing the bad guy had fired after a bad guy and shot into the air a warning shot, well it is a proven fact that all that does is get the bad guy running faster and he got away. In the meantime approx 2 miles away in a backyard four ladies were playing cards when suddenly one of the ladies fell over dead, the detective's where baffled because she had been struck in the head and there just wasn't anyway to make the shot. Afterwards when they were at the station the one set of detective's where talking about how this silly guard had did a warning shot and accomplished nothing but to get the bad guy to run faster and how many people who watched to many cop show's on TV, when the second set of detective's heard about it, they were like noway it had been at least two miles apart. But when they looked at the map and then checked the bullet it had been the security guard's gun and he was charged with involuntary manslaughter. Don't ever fire a warning shot !!!, Next case happened in NEW YORK CITY while driving across one of the bridges a detective noticed a pretty young lady driving just a little in front of him in the other lane, when all of a sudden she just slumped over at sixty miles per hour and then crashed her car. Now the police officer had been right behind her and had seen nothing, heard nothing and the lady had been shot right behind her left ear while going sixty miles an hour through the open widow on a bridge. It was an impossible shot, and it had been a British .303 rifle round that had killed her. At first there were no lead's and everyone was trying to figure it out, because it was just impossible to do. In the end it turned out, a man in his boat 3 miles out in the ocean had shot his rifle at a shark, and the bullet had hit the water and bounced off the water and hit the lady killing her. Always check your target and make sure that there's no chance of collateral damage.🤔🤔🤔☠️
Honestly thought this was gonna be boring but it was so interesting! Thanks!
Wow! I was in Iraq when this happened. It looked almost like a wall of tracers going up. One of our mechanics caught a round in his foot. Nothing serious for him but i can attest THIS DID HAPPEN.
My friend while doing time in county jail in Phoenix AZ new years eve overhead cop radio relaying that airplanes had been rerouted for this same reason
I have lived in the South for a long time and I don't recall people shooting into the air.
Did you live in the hood? Because every city I've lived in the south seems to have this "tradition." Especially in the poor sections of town.
Local Houston TV stations will carry stories about how one should not fire guns into the air to celebrate the New Year. It still happens, I guess those folks don’t watch the news.
@@stanwolenski9541 well, since our newly installed 'President' told people to fire their shotgun into the air as a 'warning shot' years ago, I guess they take that as 'blanket permission'.
@@avnrulz8587 Blow a big hole in one”s ceiling using the Biden method of self defense.
I was in Iraq when Uday and Qusay were killed. It was like the forth of July with all of the tracer rounds flying up in the air. I took shelter in my armored vehicle. Just a month before I had a friend that was struck in the leg while reading a book from a falling bullet. Yes, he earned a Purple Heart for it. Good times.
All that lead going up into the air are there any birds left in these places?
I'm absolutely loving your channel (currently binging). Out of curiosity, do you happen to know if this has happened at any other sporting events?
Baseball may be a health hazard?
I recall a story regarding a woman killed while driving down a street along the harbor in New York City. The police were baffled until the lead detective ordered a specific block canvased. They found a man who had purchased a boat and found a rifle on board which he used to fire at something in the water at the time the woman was killed. Amazingly he knew the victim!
I have yet seen a gravity check fail.......
Another incident occurred in St. Louis in 1964 at Fairgrounds Park during a Cardinals game. I robber attempting to rob the bleachers' ticket booth fired a shot that ricocheted off the steel beams and struck a person on the other side of the ballpark causing a very slight injury. I know this as I worked in the first aid room as an usher.
Explains the spent .45 pistol bullet that bounced off my front door one New year's Eve!
New Years Eve in Lakeland, Fla?
Was this in Ken Burn's "Baseball"? I do not remember it.
Rule #1: what goes up must come down. Rule #2: Do not go to a Major League baseball game in a crowded stadium if you are 50 yrs. old or older...LOL..!!
marbleman52 well, to be fair, most people who go to baseball games do not get shot.
Well, okay...I suppose you're correct....I never was good at telling jokes anyway...Ha..!!
marbleman52 LOL yes I got the joke. Apparently I am not good at telling jokes either. :)
LOL...that makes 2 of us...but you ARE good at telling History stories, and very well, too. I applaud you for the time & research & video production effort you do to bring us so many very interesting stories that many of knew so little about, if at all. Your obvious enthusiasm for your topics is so refreshing to see. Thanks, Mr. History....keep up the great work...!!
I hope your channel continues to grow. I've only seen three other channels that are this dedicated and accurate to history(Today I found Out, Unknown5, and The Great War). Keep up the good work.
I live in Jacksonville Florida where firing guns in the air is fairly common especially on drinking holidays... on New Years Eve a few years ago me and a friend were outside having a smoke and two bullets landed within two feet of where we were standing. We heard the distinct whistle of the falling bullets and felt impact in our feet. We decided to go back inside after that.
Hm. Imagine that. Treating a WEAPON like a toy might not end well. Who'd have EVER thought that?
One of the more bizarre incidents in Major League history. Here is another one - the day that the Detroit Tigers fielded a team made up from players from a religious seminary for a game against the Philadelphia Athletics:
www.creighton.edu/publicrelations/newscenter/news/2017/april2017/april32017/baseballtraversnr040317/
i`m actually shocked the nra didnt fight shannons law
Scary!!
What goes up must come down. Obviously you're not familiar with the tax situation in Washington state. Also of someone would be hit at a Marlins Ray's game since hardly anyone watches either of those teams.
A college classmate was killed by a bullet a farmer had fired at a woodchuck, a mile and a half away. She was watching a rugby game with other students and suddenly fell over, struck in the head by the bullet. No one present even heard a shot. She died the following day. The tragedy still causes pain to all those who new her and all members of our senior class - graduation was just a month away. Rest In Peace M.J. White.
If you ain’t showing off,why fire up when you can fire down?
I think I missed something. He was killed with a 45 cal bullet but the kid had a 22 cal gun?
here ditched the 0.45 in a field when he heard that he'd killed somebody.
A few years back, a woman pushing a baby stroller while walking in downtown El Paso, TX shopping was hit by a stray round from an AR15 that had been fired during a shootout between Mexican Federal Agents and Sinaloa cartel members across the river in Cd. Juarez.
Can you cover "The War Of The League Of Cambrai"?
Basic gun safety. Why don't we bring this education back to school?
...unless you reach escape velocity.
Alright this settles it, ive now watch three sperate videos by you over a period of four weeks all ending in satisfaction. That is a 100% success rate wich ..... is why i now subscribe to you video shorts of United states of American information. Indulging.
even I know that I don't even own a firearm
You said he was killed by a 45 but the recovered guns were both 22s?
Correct. the shot was not fired by the guns that were recovered. He said that, when he heard of the death in the ball park, he discarded the pistol he used.
What's the difference between these accidents… and a weekend in Chicago? (Not rhetorical)
M-16 Rifle is still lethal at over 2 miles, just not accurate.
What about the games
Have often wondered how many are struck by bullets fired into the air at Islamic weddings throughout many of the Eastern nations, which are some of the few remaining places left on Earth where firing weapons into the air is something still widely practiced. *edit: and the second I posted this comment, you cover it in the video. Oh, Lawdy!
In 2008, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays became the Tampa Bay Rays. They play at Tropicana Field, not stadium.
Shooting guns upward in celebration should be outlawed. Dangerous and stupid.
4:19 The New York Training School for Boys - now there is one of the more euphemistic names for a school of its kind I've ever heard. Juvenile Hall, as its so quaintly called, is nothing more than a proving grounds for future criminals and hoodlums. I spent three weeks in one of these "detention centers" and I met the worst of the worst, while there. Guys would brag about things like raping their sisters or cousins; most bragged about petty and not so petty burglaries. All of them were proud of the nefarious activities and wore them like badges of honor. Nothing good comes from those nasty little cesspools called Juvenile Detention Centers. Edited for spelling.
I don't understand it. I've never understood it. Imo anyone who recklessly fires a deadly weapon is either a psychopath or a complete idiot. Either way, the end result is identical: some innocent person living their life is hurt or killed for absolutely no reason
I wonder how many people have been shot accidentally at football games.
Colonel K at least one, at a New Mexico vs New Mexico State game in Las Cruces in 2012.
Please, Please, Please balance your sound! Intro and Outro are WAY too loud
Sorry- that has been corrected in the newer videos.
That happened in new Orleans on new year's Eve several years ago 🚓
I remember seeing billboards in New Orleans about "falling bullets kill."
It bothers me greatly that people are dumb enough to do this, ive owned and been around guns since i was a kid and my father even strictly taught me trigger disipline on cap and water guns. He was a navy vet and lost a crew mate in puerto rico due to negilgent handling of weapons, he always told me about this story and its never left me to this day. I teach my own daughter trigger disipline, and what to do if she finds a gun herself
Kid shoots 45. Wonder how many die by accident. Daddy why so many pistols?
Why are there baseball images from the 1900's if the game was from 1950?
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Gunfire into the air is NOT common in the Southern United States. That is either a lie or you had a bad source for your information. Your own examples are 3-1 northern states/midwestern states vs southern states (New York, Kansas City, and St. Louis vs only one in the south, Tampa Bay.)
Well shots falling into baseball fields are not the representative sample of celebratory gunfire injuries. There are plenty of examples of injuries and deaths from celebratory gunfire n Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, Texas. It is a chronic New Year's problem in Chicago, but also South Florida and Houston.
"What goes up most come down" is certainly true but for a lot fo gun nuts it also seems "out of sight, out of mind"...:(