I like Weckl's playing now as well, but the old Weckl before he changed his technique and approach had a more punchy sound that I still enjoy for it's precision, density and incisiveness (his new sound is more organic and less "digital").
I’m with you. I have a very unpopular/controversial take on this. Somewhere between youthful vitality and authentic delivery lives the genuine essence of an artist. I feel the same way about Steve Smith. He was so nasty prior to Gruber. I’m sure Steve (and Dave) feel like they’re better mechanically in some ways, and may very well be, but as a result of the study they sound more in their heads and concerned about technique. Like they are telling themselves not to do this and to be sure to do that. That takes up bandwidth and can interfere with raw emotion and ideas. Also, removes the individuality. Think about if Jimi Hendrix started practicing technique and flow. Playing to a click track… it would have completely ruined his contribution and individuality. Same with Led Zeppelin, The Who, etc. So I don’t begrudge them for being curious students wanting to improve themselves at all. I’m just bummed a little when in that process, some of what made them unique, special with an individual style is erased or diminished through academic pursuit. All that said, I still love these guys but I miss the youthful fire. Rock and roll is a big part reckless abandon and attitude. I miss the middle finger of every one of these guys. Ha!
I agree and disagree. Look at Weckl now. He's untouchable, the god of flow, and dynamics. Had he stayed at this level, he would have quickly been surpassed by fresher talent.
The high cymbal and hard back beat left hand stick positioning phase of DW… I remember this well. I tried duplicating everything this man did then. lol
I am 61 and still barley qualify to carry his drums! He was so advanced all the way back then even. Talent and a lot of formal training I guess. I am self taught. Dave, Vinnie etc., all those type cats have formal training and it shows!
@@MultiSkyman1 Well, when I did play I banged traditional, so I listen to all but I mostly follow the evolution of the boys Weckl, Donati, Vinnie, JoJo etc. Greyson is cool for what he does too. And ofc my "matched" 3xGrammy winner cousin Brannen Temple. The drum- offs we had as kids... Him here making 3 drums kick tastefully. ruclips.net/video/G2G6vxjvCUA/видео.htmlsi=5ifm_AiU-9JRWj0a
What electronics was he using that needed recoding? This is pure 80’s gold when young drummers such as myself were looking g up to guys like him. Such an inspiration!❤
There is a whole lot of blending from afro-cuban, caribbean, samba and bossa's. Well,... Dave mastered all of them, grooving further all of their intricated rhythmic pulses with very clean crisp execution.
_Spur of the Moment._ I think it was only available as part of one of his early instructional packages (and maybe as a Modern Drummer sound supplement).
Weckl should have been stayed with zildjian , it was more fun.
Mullet Dave was the best Dave.
I like Weckl's playing now as well, but the old Weckl before he changed his technique and approach had a more punchy sound that I still enjoy for it's precision, density and incisiveness (his new sound is more organic and less "digital").
Same with Vinnie. He was more rock and roll back in the day.
I totally agree. There’s something so compelling about his playing in this era,a really fun,aggressive edge to it.
You don't know what you're talking about
I’m with you. I have a very unpopular/controversial take on this. Somewhere between youthful vitality and authentic delivery lives the genuine essence of an artist. I feel the same way about Steve Smith. He was so nasty prior to Gruber. I’m sure Steve (and Dave) feel like they’re better mechanically in some ways, and may very well be, but as a result of the study they sound more in their heads and concerned about technique. Like they are telling themselves not to do this and to be sure to do that. That takes up bandwidth and can interfere with raw emotion and ideas. Also, removes the individuality. Think about if Jimi Hendrix started practicing technique and flow. Playing to a click track… it would have completely ruined his contribution and individuality. Same with Led Zeppelin, The Who, etc. So I don’t begrudge them for being curious students wanting to improve themselves at all. I’m just bummed a little when in that process, some of what made them unique, special with an individual style is erased or diminished through academic pursuit. All that said, I still love these guys but I miss the youthful fire. Rock and roll is a big part reckless abandon and attitude. I miss the middle finger of every one of these guys. Ha!
I agree and disagree. Look at Weckl now. He's untouchable, the god of flow, and dynamics. Had he stayed at this level, he would have quickly been surpassed by fresher talent.
The GOAT 🐐 has entered the room 😅
Forget the drums, that hair was amazing!
_what?_
His hair was PERFECT. 😁
Around 1:40 it starts sounding a bit like the groove for _In Flight_ from the _Hard Wired_ album.
So many Gadd-isms. Love it! Never seen this clip before
Even the Yamaha recording custom drums are a Gadd ism
suena increible esa bateria!!!
Amazing drumming! So precise, dynamic and interesting!
Anyone knows where can you find the spur of the moment video he made that looks like extracted from a dvd?
I’m so surprised by how much better his Sabian cymbals sound. They did a great job with that line plus the HHX series of cymbals.
The high cymbal and hard back beat left hand stick positioning phase of DW… I remember this well. I tried duplicating everything this man did then. lol
I am 61 and still barley qualify to carry his drums! He was so advanced all the way back then even. Talent and a lot of formal training I guess. I am self taught. Dave, Vinnie etc., all those type cats have formal training and it shows!
@@MultiSkyman1 Don't play yourself short. Yes, the formal helped but they were just built different for the times and even now.
@@mgfiii Who catches your ears these days?
@@MultiSkyman1 Well, when I did play I banged traditional, so I listen to all but I mostly follow the evolution of the boys Weckl, Donati, Vinnie, JoJo etc. Greyson is cool for what he does too. And ofc my "matched" 3xGrammy winner cousin Brannen Temple. The drum- offs we had as kids... Him here making 3 drums kick tastefully. ruclips.net/video/G2G6vxjvCUA/видео.htmlsi=5ifm_AiU-9JRWj0a
This tune is one the instructional vhs tape that I wore out as a teenager trying to be Dave Weckl in my basement.
Smokin
What electronics was he using that needed recoding?
This is pure 80’s gold when young drummers such as myself were looking g up to guys like him. Such an inspiration!❤
I didn't know he was also a recoder?
There is a whole lot of blending from afro-cuban, caribbean, samba and bossa's.
Well,... Dave mastered all of them, grooving further all of their intricated rhythmic pulses with very clean crisp execution.
Notice how much his technique has changed
Somewhere on earth, to this very day, that 8” tom is still going “dooooo!”
Anyone know if the song starting at 5:30 has a name? Was it on any of his albums? It isn't on any that I heard so far. Thanks if anyone can help!
_Spur of the Moment._ I think it was only available as part of one of his early instructional packages (and maybe as a Modern Drummer sound supplement).